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Title: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: KEK Inc. on March 04, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
Nevada probably has the most, due to how wide their roads are.  Harmon & Las Vegas Bl comes to mind.
https://goo.gl/maps/ltqaX


Note:  Keyword is 'cantilevered'.  Traffic lights on bridges do (https://goo.gl/maps/exu5P) not (https://goo.gl/maps/5QvwZ) count (https://goo.gl/maps/Trizc). 
Title: Re: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 04:24:30 PM
The one at Glebe Road and Jeff Davis Highway (US-1) in Arlington, Virginia, has always seemed like a very long arm to me. It's the one directly ahead of the camera's viewpoint here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.842313,-77.052485,3a,75y,333.06h,71.52t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sxY88cXZg5q1JF-vsBMYPzw!2e0
Title: Re: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: 2Co5_14 on March 06, 2015, 12:38:20 PM
Powers Ferry Rd at Terrel Mill Rd in Marietta, GA
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Terrell+Mill+Road,+Marietta,+GA&hl=en&ll=33.917612,-84.466583&spn=0.000002,0.001032&sll=36.108897,-115.17315&sspn=0.498708,1.056747&oq=terrel&t=h&hnear=Terrell+Mill+Rd,+Marietta,+Georgia&z=21&layer=c&cbll=33.917612,-84.466583&panoid=Wy61eK1UMM9T_44a8gGi_A&cbp=12,344.04,,0,3.51
Title: Re: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: roadman65 on March 06, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
The new ones on John Young Parkway between Sand Lake Road and the Beachline in Orlando are pretty long spanning six lanes of traffic.  Big fat monotubes to do this, but still an arm by definition.
Title: Re: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: KEK Inc. on March 09, 2015, 05:23:20 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
The new ones on John Young Parkway between Sand Lake Road and the Beachline in Orlando are pretty long spanning six lanes of traffic.  Big fat monotubes to do this, but still an arm by definition.

https://goo.gl/maps/cAOb6

Holy shit.  Seems overengineered, even for a hurricane area.


So far, looks like 7 signals is the max, but that mast-arm might be longer.
Title: Re: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: Revive 755 on March 13, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
Quote from: 2Co5_14 on March 06, 2015, 12:38:20 PM
Powers Ferry Rd at Terrel Mill Rd in Marietta, GA
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Terrell+Mill+Road,+Marietta,+GA&hl=en&ll=33.917612,-84.466583&spn=0.000002,0.001032&sll=36.108897,-115.17315&sspn=0.498708,1.056747&oq=terrel&t=h&hnear=Terrell+Mill+Rd,+Marietta,+Georgia&z=21&layer=c&cbll=33.917612,-84.466583&panoid=Wy61eK1UMM9T_44a8gGi_A&cbp=12,344.04,,0,3.51

What's with the 'yield to left turns' sign there - is the opposing left permissive only?  Doesn't look MUTCD compliant.



Going on a slight tangent from the original topic, what are the longest mast arms per state standards?

* Illinois is 75' (from the statewide highway standards (http://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Standards/Highway-Standards/PDF/216-877002-02_SteelMastArmAssembly&Pole56%27thru75%27.pdf))

* Minnesota is 80' (per Page 6-77 or 341/456 of the Traffic Control Signal Design Manual) (http://www.dot.state.mn.us/trafficeng/publ/signaldesign/2014signaldesignmanual/2014_Signal_Design_Manual.pdf)

* Utah is 85' (from Page 12 of the Signalized Intersection Design Guidelines) (http://www.udot.utah.gov/main/uconowner.gf?n=13679121470326565)

Does any state have any greater lengths?

Title: Re: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: 6a on March 14, 2015, 06:41:11 PM

Quote from: Revive 755 on March 13, 2015, 09:59:03 PM

What's with the 'yield to left turns' sign there - is the opposing left permissive only?  Doesn't look MUTCD compliant.

I wonder if a u-turn is considered a left turn here.
Title: Re: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: UCFKnights on March 14, 2015, 11:17:20 PM
Quote from: 6a on March 14, 2015, 06:41:11 PM

Quote from: Revive 755 on March 13, 2015, 09:59:03 PM

What's with the 'yield to left turns' sign there - is the opposing left permissive only?  Doesn't look MUTCD compliant.

I wonder if a u-turn is considered a left turn here.
There's a no u turn sign as well for the direction that would be into those lanes.
Title: Re: Longest cantilevered traffic light mast arm
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 14, 2015, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 13, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
Quote from: 2Co5_14 on March 06, 2015, 12:38:20 PM
Powers Ferry Rd at Terrel Mill Rd in Marietta, GA
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Terrell+Mill+Road,+Marietta,+GA&hl=en&ll=33.917612,-84.466583&spn=0.000002,0.001032&sll=36.108897,-115.17315&sspn=0.498708,1.056747&oq=terrel&t=h&hnear=Terrell+Mill+Rd,+Marietta,+Georgia&z=21&layer=c&cbll=33.917612,-84.466583&panoid=Wy61eK1UMM9T_44a8gGi_A&cbp=12,344.04,,0,3.51

What's with the 'yield to left turns' sign there - is the opposing left permissive only?  Doesn't look MUTCD compliant.



Going on a slight tangent from the original topic, what are the longest mast arms per state standards?

* Illinois is 75' (from the statewide highway standards (http://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Standards/Highway-Standards/PDF/216-877002-02_SteelMastArmAssembly&Pole56%27thru75%27.pdf))

* Minnesota is 80' (per Page 6-77 or 341/456 of the Traffic Control Signal Design Manual) (http://www.dot.state.mn.us/trafficeng/publ/signaldesign/2014signaldesignmanual/2014_Signal_Design_Manual.pdf)

* Utah is 85' (from Page 12 of the Signalized Intersection Design Guidelines) (http://www.udot.utah.gov/main/uconowner.gf?n=13679121470326565)

Does any state have any greater lengths?



NJ apparently has suppliers approved to provide arms up to 65' in length. The standard arm they use: the trombone, is permitted up to 25 feet, per their sheets (I swear I've seen longer though).