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Title: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Grzrd on March 09, 2015, 07:57:55 PM
This Feb. 20, 2015 blog (http://www.mapquest.com/travel/articles/us-interstate-highways-ranked-21144041#chapter-21144065) ranks the 66 2dis.  Coming in at #66 is ...........

I-95 !!!!!!
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: corco on March 09, 2015, 08:03:29 PM
Why is I-86 in Idaho only ranked 30/66? What the hell are these rankings? What methodology causes that interstate to have a midrange score? Who are these people?

I-90 as winner is acceptable.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 09, 2015, 08:25:42 PM
I didn't bother reading beyond the first 3. 

I-95: They mention the tolls in Delaware & NJ, as in if you don't get lost, you won't pay tolls. Even if you track 95 as best as possible thru the gap, you're still paying tolls!

I-4: Is it still haunted, or was this an issue in 1961?

I-97: Here's the entire justification: "The shortest interstate in the country is the second busiest. On the plus side, it passes a town called Glen Burnie."  Huh?


Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Takumi on March 09, 2015, 08:38:40 PM
What did I just read?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.gamespot.com%2Fuploads%2Fignore_jpg_scale_super%2F113%2F1135333%2F2654768-8059740242-a0605.jpg&hash=70a512bc7ea65094ad6c23ff0943589988158cf8)
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: oscar on March 09, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 09, 2015, 08:25:42 PM
I-4: Is it still haunted, or was this an issue in 1961?

No mention of the "hewa" (curse) on Interstate H-3, since the list is limited to lower-48 Interstates. The alleged funny stuff on H-3 all happened during construction, seems to have died down once the freeway was completed.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: DeaconG on March 09, 2015, 08:57:15 PM
As far as what I read on that site and it's rankings, I think this encapsulates it quite well:

"https://www.youtube.com/embed/LQCU36pkH7c"
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: SD Mapman on March 09, 2015, 09:12:11 PM
Quote from: corco on March 09, 2015, 08:03:29 PM
I-90 as winner is acceptable.
Yes it is. It's also nice to have I-29 further down the list.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: NE2 on March 09, 2015, 10:01:27 PM
I'd rather read 50 Shades.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: kurumi on March 10, 2015, 12:17:03 AM
46) I-84 PA/NY/MA ("Freedom From NYC Trail"): Hey, that list is missing CT. (That's OK: a list of modern, relevant mapping services won't include Mapquest.)

No comments on the ranking ("we hate I-95", then a bunch of random slop, then some worthy scenic/important routes at the end). But it's also missing H1, 2 and 3.

At least it wasn't a 66-page slide show.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: pianocello on March 10, 2015, 12:47:44 AM
It's funny that they named I-88 (IL) "The Hillside Strangler" that was (a) fixed* and (b) arguably more known for its impact on I-290 than I-88.

*still not perfect, but it's better than it used to be.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: bing101 on March 10, 2015, 10:47:36 AM
I-5, I-10, I-80 and I-95 are my picks for top interstates 2di.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: SteveG1988 on March 10, 2015, 11:44:56 AM
42) I-57 ("Somebody Really Hates the Arch")

Route: 386 miles, Chicago to SE Missouri
Traffic Rating: 1.70

This gets our award for Interstate Most Likely Not to Exist in Our Doppelganger Universe. It's not busy. It connects Chicago to soy farms. And by skipping St. Louis altogether it trims only a few miles from the parallel I-55 between Memphis and Chicago.



Yeah...it does only trim a "few" miles, but it also takes you through less traffic along the way by bypassing a lot of stuff.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 12:30:28 PM
I'm pretty sure MapQuest at one point provided directions in such a way that every street that intersected the NJ Turnpike was treated as a normal intersection, allowing motorists to enter anywhere.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Henry on March 10, 2015, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: bing101 on March 10, 2015, 10:47:36 AM
I-5, I-10, I-80 and I-95 are my picks for top interstates 2di.
And I-90 as well.

It's shocking that I-95 is not even in the Top 10!
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Brandon on March 10, 2015, 02:06:58 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on March 10, 2015, 11:44:56 AM
42) I-57 ("Somebody Really Hates the Arch")

Route: 386 miles, Chicago to SE Missouri
Traffic Rating: 1.70

This gets our award for Interstate Most Likely Not to Exist in Our Doppelganger Universe. It's not busy. It connects Chicago to soy farms. And by skipping St. Louis altogether it trims only a few miles from the parallel I-55 between Memphis and Chicago.



Yeah...it does only trim a "few" miles, but it also takes you through less traffic along the way by bypassing a lot of stuff.

And I'm very sure that UIUC kind of likes having the freeway connection to Chicagoland.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: ET21 on March 11, 2015, 12:55:34 PM
Route: 887 miles, Gary, Indiana to Mobile, Alabama
Traffic Rating: 2.64
In 2007, the Chicago Bears lost to the Indianapolis Colts in the so-called "I-65 Super Bowl," named for this connection between the cities. It was a fairly dull game. And this is a fairly dull road.

No shit it's a dull road, that's what happens when you plant it through farmland and it's northern terminus faces a smelly industrialized area  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: PHLBOS on March 12, 2015, 09:07:18 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 12:30:28 PM
I'm pretty sure MapQuest at one point provided directions in such a way that every street that intersected the NJ Turnpike was treated as a normal intersection, allowing motorists to enter anywhere.
That must've been a very early edition of MapQuest.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Zzonkmiles on March 15, 2015, 11:08:57 AM
The stated methodology is:

"To help, we turned to algebra, and created a "traffic rating" based on vehicle travel miles per mile of interstate (1.0 is least busy, 5.0 the most). We weigh that against the general joy of the ride as a whole, often rewarding longer highways–the true "interstates"–or thematic regional rides, over mere connectors to suburbs or coastal towns."

I realize that I-95 north of Richmond can be seriously unpleasant because of the traffic, but once you get to Georgia, the drive is quite pleasant. And plus, given all the travelers heading for Florida, the anticipation of crossing state lines further and further south is quite satisfying. To rank this as the worst interstate is a joke. I mean, I-97, I-12 and I-99 were all deemed better? Hell, even I-73 and I-74 were ranked significantly higher. Really?

This dude should hand over his road geeking license.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: The Nature Boy on March 15, 2015, 11:57:10 AM
I-95's economic importance alone should get it into the top 10. It passes through every major northeastern metro area and provides a connection between the BosWash corridor and South Florida. Once I-495 is complete in NC, it'll connect to Raleigh/Durham via a 3di.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: vdeane on March 17, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
They're being ranked based on "how congested is the road" and "how good is the scenery", NOT "does this road have any numbering oddities or break the grid" or "how economically important is the road".  I'm guessing most roadgeeks prefer the latter criteria but most everyone else prefers the former, especially since most normal people don't give a crap about the grid.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: The Nature Boy on March 17, 2015, 09:51:45 PM
I-95 in Florida is pretty scenic. I assume the Maine section isn't bad either.

Other than that? Yeah, it's bad.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: NE2 on March 18, 2015, 12:05:57 AM
Quote from: vdeane on March 17, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
They're being ranked based on "how congested is the road" and "how good is the scenery", NOT "does this road have any numbering oddities or break the grid" or "how economically important is the road".
It's shit no matter what criteria were supposedly used. I-4 is second-worst because it's the "busiest interstate in the country" (I call bullshit, even among 2DIs if you compare apples to apples) and some paranormal idiots think it's haunted? I-26 is fourth-worst because an elephant was hanged nearby? I-69 is seventh-worst because it has numbering oddities and breaks the grid?
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 18, 2015, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on March 17, 2015, 09:51:45 PM
I-95 in Florida is pretty scenic. I assume the Maine section isn't bad either.

Other than that? Yeah, it's bad.

Much of I-95 in Maine (and essentially all of it between Old Town and Houlton) is through desolate, and unpopulated land. 

Curiously, similar to much of I-95 across South Carolina.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Buck87 on March 18, 2015, 11:30:37 PM
I thought this one was pretty funny:

31. I-77 ("Hootie Highway")

The only way Hootie & the Blowfish get into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame is by road trip. This one connects their hometown to the birthplace of "rock 'n' roll" in Cleveland.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: The Nature Boy on March 18, 2015, 11:53:17 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 18, 2015, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on March 17, 2015, 09:51:45 PM
I-95 in Florida is pretty scenic. I assume the Maine section isn't bad either.

Other than that? Yeah, it's bad.

Much of I-95 in Maine (and essentially all of it between Old Town and Houlton) is through desolate, and unpopulated land. 

Curiously, similar to much of I-95 across South Carolina.

I-95 through the Carolinas (both of them) is pretty boring. Fayetteville is the largest city that I-95 (barely) goes through along that whole stretch.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Zzonkmiles on March 20, 2015, 12:37:15 AM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on March 18, 2015, 11:53:17 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 18, 2015, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on March 17, 2015, 09:51:45 PM
I-95 in Florida is pretty scenic. I assume the Maine section isn't bad either.

Other than that? Yeah, it's bad.

Much of I-95 in Maine (and essentially all of it between Old Town and Houlton) is through desolate, and unpopulated land. 

Curiously, similar to much of I-95 across South Carolina.

I-95 through the Carolinas (both of them) is pretty boring. Fayetteville is the largest city that I-95 (barely) goes through along that whole stretch.

The NC stretch of I-95 is worse than the SC stretch IMO. The SC stretch goes over a large lake, has forested medians, and has generally more interesting scenery. When driving through NC from the VA border, I see Exit 180 and resign myself to 2.5 hours of frustration.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Ian on March 20, 2015, 12:14:12 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 18, 2015, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on March 17, 2015, 09:51:45 PM
I-95 in Florida is pretty scenic. I assume the Maine section isn't bad either.

Other than that? Yeah, it's bad.

Much of I-95 in Maine (and essentially all of it between Old Town and Houlton) is through desolate, and unpopulated land. 

If you're a fan of nothing but trees, trees, and more trees (with the occasional moose), I-95 in Maine is great. The 75 speed limit is pretty nice though. Maine is definitely the only state on I-95 where views like this with hardly any cars are common...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7520/15482185979_e00ff5f7e5_z.jpg)
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: kkt on March 20, 2015, 01:11:50 PM
Quote from: Ian on March 20, 2015, 12:14:12 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7520/15482185979_e00ff5f7e5_z.jpg)

Pretty!
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: JakeFromNewEngland on March 20, 2015, 03:43:19 PM
There is a section of I-95 in Maine where you can see Mount Katahdin and the surrounding mountains. It's absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: The Nature Boy on March 20, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
Okay, I drove the entire length of I-95 in North Carolina today. Somewhere around mile marker 165, I started giving my riding companion a lecture on early North Carolina history. I tend to lecture on the history of places I drive through, probably why I often end up doing road trips alone.  I should've become a history teacher.

We also came to the consensus though that I-95 south of Richmond can be lumped into the Carolina vortex of I-95 suck.
Title: Re: 2di Rankings Released
Post by: Zzonkmiles on March 21, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on March 20, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
We also came to the consensus though that I-95 south of Richmond can be lumped into the Carolina vortex of I-95 suck.

Sounds about right to me. From Richmond to Savannah (or more generously, the SC/GA border), this is generally an unpleasant road to drive. Not sure if it's the four lane issue or the lack of any significant metro areas or the poor road condition or the boring scenery or the fact that the road just drags on for about 370 miles through all of this nothingness is to blame.