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Title: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 24, 2009, 08:58:39 PM
A good place to post evidence of highways that never quite made it.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 24, 2009, 09:00:58 PM
Also I'd like to post the Embarcadero Freeway in SF, since it did exist at one point, even though you can't really see any evidence of it other than the transbay terminal.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3248%2F2844606210_17a85cff99.jpg&hash=c9ef0c556517b12b2e000b49a1935af406bfdb90)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 24, 2009, 09:51:03 PM
I don't have a pic of it but there's a pretty cool unfinished interchange in Albany, NY that has 2 ramps that just end over the Hudson.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 24, 2009, 09:56:33 PM
Can't find one online? Doesn't have to be one of your photos.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: rawr apples on January 24, 2009, 10:00:11 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2F1%2F1b%2FPDX_US_30_Ghost_Ramp.jpeg%2F800px-PDX_US_30_Ghost_Ramp.jpeg&hash=c0b44f3329cf8cdaef24a43722e86ab528439fad)


Ramp Stub in Portland at I-5/I-84
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 24, 2009, 10:00:30 PM
Where was that going to go?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: rawr apples on January 24, 2009, 10:01:11 PM
I think that particular stub was to connect one of the bridges going across the river to 84 east
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 24, 2009, 10:57:06 PM
North end of the only partially completed section of MO 755/North-South Distributor around St. Louis:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.631661,-90.210707&spn=0,359.912109&z=14&layer=c&cbll=38.631685,-90.21083&panoid=wQspeP_oGkZFutlCxAVKng&cbp=12,193.9268897130777,,0,4.368943216135823 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.631661,-90.210707&spn=0,359.912109&z=14&layer=c&cbll=38.631685,-90.21083&panoid=wQspeP_oGkZFutlCxAVKng&cbp=12,193.9268897130777,,0,4.368943216135823)

Other views:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qf42207gg195&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8508090&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qf42207gg195&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8508090&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Stub in East St. Louis for the unbuilt freeway to connect the PSB to IL 15 at IL 163:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qf1z3b7gkx65&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8602933&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qf1z3b7gkx65&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8602933&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

This one doesn't qualify yet, but might in the future:  the current southern end of the MO 21/"Blood Alley" replacement freeway:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qc433v7fjg5k&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=26795231&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qc433v7fjg5k&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=26795231&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

From Omaha, NE, unused bridges for a unbuilt route extending west from the I-480/US 75 interchange:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qw973j7037xj&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13568587&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qw973j7037xj&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13568587&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on January 24, 2009, 11:15:24 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on January 24, 2009, 09:51:03 PM
I don't have a pic of it but there's a pretty cool unfinished interchange in Albany, NY that has 2 ramps that just end over the Hudson.

Albany has several stub ends to be found...

(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/dunn_br_eb_end.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/dunn_br_eb_end.jpg)

Eastbound at the Dunn Memorial Bridge where all traffic is shunted to the right. Without those barriers to the left, drivers would plummet to certain death!

(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/dunn_br_end.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/dunn_br_end.jpg)

Looking at the stub end of the Dunn Memorial Bridge from the opposite end.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on January 24, 2009, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on January 24, 2009, 10:57:06 PM

From Omaha, NE, unused bridges for a unbuilt route extending west from the I-480/US 75 interchange:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qw973j7037xj&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13568587&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qw973j7037xj&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13568587&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

These were being torn down when I was there in 2007.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 24, 2009, 11:29:58 PM
End of the 12 freeway in the Santa Rosa area of California:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.westcoastroads.com%2Fcalifornia%2Fimages010%2Fca-012_eb_exit_008_04.jpg&hash=8b5c1e52c8d1deec4bc1df58f9f5e69e8a801e73)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 25, 2009, 12:52:46 AM
I was posting from my ipod at the time, which lacks a copy/past function.  :banghead:

The Dunn Memorial Bridge one was the one I was looking for though.

We don't have any around here that I can find, anymore anyway singe they completed all of the stubs of freeway I used to see.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: algorerhythms on January 25, 2009, 12:58:18 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pahighways.com%2Fgraphics%2Fpictures%2FUS219southend.jpg&hash=8b3cd11602d6b4303cb9fe3d59dbbe11860a8daf)
Okay, we're done building the US 219 freeway now...
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on January 25, 2009, 01:14:43 AM
I don't have a photo, but the stub end of I-295 northbound in western Henrico County, Virginia still exists. There's still a bunch of jersey barriers there that have been there since before the flyover project began, and you can see painted lane lines for a few feet before the freeway stub ends in the trees. They need to move those jersey barriers to the end of the stub, because if not someone could drive over the end of the stub and crash about 20 feet below just outside a shopping center.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: travelinmiles on January 25, 2009, 03:22:06 PM
There are a few in Texas, like in Houston where SH 225 ends just passed the four level stack with 610.  Just up 610 there have been ghost ramps that are will no longer be such when US 90 terminates at the Interchange with I-10.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: SimMoonXP on January 25, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
On CA-12 image...looks like used be whitetop freeway back in old days as before 1990s. As Caltrans did overlay on the whitetop with the blacktop asphalt pavement.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: travelinmiles on January 25, 2009, 03:31:48 PM
Is there any chance of CA-12 being extended along its planned route.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 25, 2009, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: SyntheticDreamer on January 25, 2009, 01:14:43 AM
I don't have a photo, but the stub end of I-295 northbound in western Henrico County, Virginia still exists. There's still a bunch of jersey barriers there that have been there since before the flyover project began, and you can see painted lane lines for a few feet before the freeway stub ends in the trees. They need to move those jersey barriers to the end of the stub, because if not someone could drive over the end of the stub and crash about 20 feet below just outside a shopping center.

Found an aerial view:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=q882dk8hzjx4&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=18456564&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=q882dk8hzjx4&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=18456564&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 25, 2009, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: travelinmiles on January 25, 2009, 03:31:48 PM
Is there any chance of CA-12 being extended along its planned route.

Very slim. Most of the planned right of way has been developed.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 25, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
One in Dayton, OH:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qmr2n07zm3fd&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17240322&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qmr2n07zm3fd&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17240322&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Note the changes at the interchange with US 35:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=39.754531~-84.158979&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17240284&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=39.754531~-84.158979&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17240284&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qms5cp7zm28x&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17240303&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qms5cp7zm28x&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17240303&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

In Indianapolis, there still remains evidence of a canceled link from the northern I-65/I-70 split to I-69.  I believe this area was partially redone not too long ago, so I'm surprised so much evidence remains.
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=39.784746~-86.140881&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32129027&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=39.784746~-86.140881&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32129027&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Stub for I-694 in Chicago?
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qykkr37q1435&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=11413326&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qykkr37q1435&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=11413326&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Half completed SPUI north of Chicago:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=42.384312~-87.824761&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=11306540&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=42.384312~-87.824761&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=11306540&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

At Rockford, IL, grading for additional loops at the I-39/US 20 interchange:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=42.219651~-89.008248&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17943199&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=42.219651~-89.008248&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=17943199&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Stub at I-474 in Peoria:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=40.693492~-89.670796&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27374072&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=40.693492~-89.670796&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27374072&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Unused bridges along US 50 in Illinois between IL 127 near Carlye and Lebanon:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=38.622017~-89.482076&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27377186&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=38.622017~-89.482076&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27377186&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

And another one may-be-completed project around St. Louis, the US 40-61/Rte N interchange around Lake St. Louis, with stubs to eventually accommodate the MO 364 freeway:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=38.77053~-90.775352&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=26701025&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=38.77053~-90.775352&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=26701025&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Scott5114 on January 25, 2009, 07:57:25 PM
In Oklahoma, most of the freeways were built as planned, so we don't have any true "stubs" around. Only real thing that we have is the ultra cool section of old I-44 (and before it was that, US 66) that was bypassed when the Creek Turnpike was tied into I-44. A couple of local roads (like E. Pine St.) cross over the disused freeway on bridges. They even left some BGSes up on it.

Senator Jim Inhofe used the abandoned scrap of freeway in an ad promising that he would provide more funding for OK's terrible roads and bridges. To underscore this he dramatically strode up the cracking freeway. Of course that highway is deteriorating; it has no traffic and no need for maintenance!
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: ComputerGuy on January 25, 2009, 08:11:14 PM
Here's the pictures of stubs of an abandoned freeway project in Seattle:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=47.644163~-122.297261&style=h&lvl=16&scene=3695216 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=47.644163~-122.297261&style=h&lvl=16&scene=3695216)

(R.H. Thomson Expressway at WA-520)

More of Wa here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways_in_Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways_in_Washington)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: ComputerGuy on January 25, 2009, 08:15:27 PM
Here's a removed ramp in a partial-cloverleaf interchange in Lakewood, WA (Tacoma area)

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=47.16297,-122.479792&spn=0.002932,0.009205&t=k (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=47.16297,-122.479792&spn=0.002932,0.009205&t=k)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on January 25, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
Quote from: ComputerGuy on January 25, 2009, 08:11:14 PM
Here's the pictures of stubs of an abandoned freeway project in Seattle:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=47.644163~-122.297261&style=h&lvl=16&scene=3695216 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=47.644163~-122.297261&style=h&lvl=16&scene=3695216)

(R.H. Thomson Expressway at WA-520)

More of Wa here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways_in_Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways_in_Washington)


Wow this is the first time I've ever seen that. Where was the R. H. Thomson Expressway supposed to go?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on January 25, 2009, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on January 25, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
Stub for I-694 in Chicago?
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qykkr37q1435&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=11413326&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qykkr37q1435&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=11413326&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)


Unused bridges along US 50 in Illinois between IL 127 near Carlye and Lebanon:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=38.622017~-89.482076&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27377186&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=38.622017~-89.482076&style=a&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27377186&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)


Interstate 694 in Chicago?

The U.S. 50 bridges are remnants from the original plan to route Interstate 64 eastward from St. Louis along that corridor instead of the eventual U.S. 460 corridor.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: ComputerGuy on January 25, 2009, 09:18:03 PM
Quote from: aaroads on January 25, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
Quote from: ComputerGuy on January 25, 2009, 08:11:14 PM
Here's the pictures of stubs of an abandoned freeway project in Seattle:

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=47.644163~-122.297261&style=h&lvl=16&scene=3695216 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=47.644163~-122.297261&style=h&lvl=16&scene=3695216)

(R.H. Thomson Expressway at WA-520)

More of Wa here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways_in_Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways_in_Washington)


Wow this is the first time I've ever seen that. Where was the R. H. Thomson Expressway supposed to go?

It was supposed to go from Downtown Seattle to Wa-520 west of the bridge to reduce I-5 traffic...5th worse bottleneck in the nation
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 25, 2009, 09:45:12 PM
Here are some stubs for an unbuilt route that was to connect the I-55/Crump cloverleaf with TN 300(?) in Memphis:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pvs1gg7gw11w&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=15286397&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pvs1gg7gw11w&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=15286397&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 25, 2009, 09:56:49 PM
Quote
Interstate 694 in Chicago?

Per Kurumi's website:
http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/i694.html (http://www.kurumi.com/roads/3di/i694.html)

Also found more stubs around Memphis at the west end of TN 300:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=35.199421~-90.032487&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=15280513&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=35.199421~-90.032487&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=15280513&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

EDIT: Some more from Louisiana.  Several on LA 3139:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nzv8f87gh3td&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16224764&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nzv8f87gh3td&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16224764&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nzvpps7gm1df&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16225626&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nzvpps7gm1df&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16225626&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nzvd6z7gnsy1&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16227544&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nzvd6z7gnsy1&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16227544&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nzv6xc7gp85c&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16227291&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nzv6xc7gp85c&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=16227291&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Eastern end of LA 3132 around Shreveport:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pd0f0y75qfq0&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=37271135&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pd0f0y75qfq0&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=37271135&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

East end of I-220 at I-20 in Shreveport:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pdqcc075xqfj&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=30668246&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pdqcc075xqfj&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=30668246&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on January 26, 2009, 12:00:22 AM
The LA 3132 and Interstate 220 stub ends may go somewhere eventually:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southeastroads.com%2Fimages%2Fshreveport_map.gif&hash=e8d399839b69294c08aa18a436145e7f1d580c46)

Been on LA 3139 several times (recently photographed it again in November). It is my understanding that the Earhart Expressway was built as a western extension of what would have been Interstate 310. If I'm incorrect, one of our Louisiana members surely knows the answer.

Furthermore they are finally adding an interchange between the Earhart and Causeway Boulevard, which may make the freeway more useful. There is work at the west end of the freeway too, but I was told that its likely a drainage project of some sort.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 26, 2009, 12:45:54 AM
Found evidence of the non-built SC 277/I-126 connector:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pp4hyw87dckm&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13074885&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pp4hyw87dckm&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13074885&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pp432s87d5hv&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13074769&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=pp432s87d5hv&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13074769&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
Some cleared ROW for this connector?
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=34.021631~-81.043847&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13074791&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=34.021631~-81.043847&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=13074791&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

East of Cincinnati, OH, a stub on the Milford Parkway at US 50:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qhss3f7zbmpv&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=15613774&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qhss3f7zbmpv&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=15613774&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on January 26, 2009, 02:35:07 AM
There are also stubs at both ends of the New York 5 freeway west of Syracuse:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r579xf8nf3p8&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8903268&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r579xf8nf3p8&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8903268&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r555438n5tbh&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=9069203&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r555438n5tbh&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=9069203&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

And of course at the east end of Interstate 690:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=43.055178~-76.053672&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8963387&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=43.055178~-76.053672&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8963387&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: DAL764 on January 26, 2009, 10:35:51 AM
Stubs for the proposed SR-9B (aka I-795) southeast of Jacksonville: The freeway is still supposed to built and connected to a new St. Johns River crossing, but plans have been pushed back quite a bit:
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=30.181081,-81.515636&spn=0.020812,0.049438&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=30.181081,-81.515636&spn=0.020812,0.049438&z=15)

Stubs and clearings for the Florida's Turnpike / Central Florida Greeneway interchange, which has been planned for, um, 20+ years and still doesn't appear to ever get built:
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=28.369614,-81.389744&spn=0.010592,0.024719&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=28.369614,-81.389744&spn=0.010592,0.024719&z=16)

East end of GA166 in Atlanta that was supposed to continue on to I-20 further east (and become I-420):
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=33.697905,-84.39575&spn=0.005008,0.01236&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=33.697905,-84.39575&spn=0.005008,0.01236&z=17)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on January 26, 2009, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: DAL764 on January 26, 2009, 10:35:51 AM
Stubs for the proposed SR-9B (aka I-795) southeast of Jacksonville: The freeway is still supposed to built and connected to a new St. Johns River crossing, but plans have been pushed back quite a bit:
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=30.181081,-81.515636&spn=0.020812,0.049438&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=30.181081,-81.515636&spn=0.020812,0.049438&z=15)

Stubs and clearings for the Florida's Turnpike / Central Florida Greeneway interchange, which has been planned for, um, 20+ years and still doesn't appear to ever get built:
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=28.369614,-81.389744&spn=0.010592,0.024719&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=28.369614,-81.389744&spn=0.010592,0.024719&z=16)


Yes, Florida 9B is still a long way off. Florida 9A converting to Interstate 295 will happen next year at least.

I wrote FDOT about that Greeneway/Turnpike interchange in 2007, and they replied that there is no funding at this time and funding will not be available anytime soon.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 26, 2009, 12:52:46 PM
I had no idea there were so many...

Would SC really have needed to connect the two spurs in Columbia? That city just doesn't seem big enough for it.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on January 26, 2009, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: voyager on January 26, 2009, 12:52:46 PM
I had no idea there were so many...

Would SC really have needed to connect the two spurs in Columbia? That city just doesn't seem big enough for it.

Well it was just the original freeway plan, not something that went with growth.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 26, 2009, 04:10:53 PM
Here's a slight different kind of unbuilt evidence in Memphis:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=35.146078,-89.928101&spn=0,359.994507&z=18&layer=c&cbll=35.146163,-89.9281&panoid=wgQxCctcFzewEMGOfVuLRw&cbp=12,18.152224717403783,,0,-1.8364484918619046 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=35.146078,-89.928101&spn=0,359.994507&z=18&layer=c&cbll=35.146163,-89.9281&panoid=wgQxCctcFzewEMGOfVuLRw&cbp=12,18.152224717403783,,0,-1.8364484918619046)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: rawr apples on January 26, 2009, 04:40:15 PM
I don't see anything special there, what's up with it?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: CityBoy1986 on January 26, 2009, 04:57:03 PM
It was supposed to have been a part of I-40, which would have been built through Overton Park.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 26, 2009, 05:45:43 PM
is there any quick way to get out of street view and get the map back to full size, instead of half the window at most?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on January 26, 2009, 06:13:32 PM
QuoteBeen on LA 3139 several times (recently photographed it again in November). It is my understanding that the Earhart Expressway was built as a western extension of what would have been Interstate 310. If I'm incorrect, one of our Louisiana members surely knows the answer.

No, that's correct.  It would have connected to a proposed "Riverfront Expressway", which would have followed the east bank of the river between the Earhardt and then-proposed I-310 at the Westbank Expwy.

QuoteFurthermore they are finally adding an interchange between the Earhart and Causeway Boulevard, which may make the freeway more useful. There is work at the west end of the freeway too, but I was told that its likely a drainage project of some sort.

No road-related work at the west end at present.  There's occasional discussions from time to time about connecting Earhart to Airline (US 61) on both ends, but aside from an MIS study from about 5 years back (which also recommended an LRT line between the airport and downtown), nothing has happened.  LaDOTD appears to be concentrating on its ongoing upgrades to I-10 (of which the interchange at Causeway is next in line).
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: rawr apples on January 26, 2009, 06:35:25 PM
And the reason why I didnt understand it...I looked from my ipod touch which doesnt have street view. I get it now
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Urban Prairie Schooner on January 26, 2009, 07:55:37 PM
Quote from: aaroads on January 26, 2009, 12:00:22 AM
Been on LA 3139 several times (recently photographed it again in November). It is my understanding that the Earhart Expressway was built as a western extension of what would have been Interstate 310. If I'm incorrect, one of our Louisiana members surely knows the answer.

Furthermore they are finally adding an interchange between the Earhart and Causeway Boulevard, which may make the freeway more useful. There is work at the west end of the freeway too, but I was told that its likely a drainage project of some sort.

The Earhart Expressway would have tied into the Riverfront Expressway on its east end, but was never slated to become part of I-310. That designation was only proposed for the segment of the Riverfront Expressway between its slated eastern terminus at I-10/Elysian Fields and its intersection with the Pontchartrain Expressway/GNO Bridge.

There has been some sort of work going on at the west end of Earhart. A tall, flat pile of soil has been created that looks suspiciously like a future elevated fill section for a highway. Realisitically, though, I hardly think any true roadwork is going on there. There is a drainage canal at that location so it could very well be drainage related work. There are also several buildings in the potential freeway right of way at the Dickory interchange that would have to be removed if any extension was constructed.

The formerly wooded land where the future Causeway/Earhart interchange is supposed to be constructed was cleared a couple years ago, but nothing has happened since.

The last work that I am aware to have occurred on Earhart was the addition of an entrance ramp from an industrial park to westbound Earhart just west of the parish line, using the old ghost ramp alignment that would have linked the proposed Riverfront expressway to Earhart.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 26, 2009, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 26, 2009, 05:45:43 PM
is there any quick way to get out of street view and get the map back to full size, instead of half the window at most?
Click the "X" in the top-right of the image.


CT-11:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=connecticut&sll=35.144722,-89.928203&sspn=0.012563,0.019312&ie=UTF8&ll=41.464341,-72.276671&spn=0.011513,0.019312&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=connecticut&sll=35.144722,-89.928203&sspn=0.012563,0.019312&ie=UTF8&ll=41.464341,-72.276671&spn=0.011513,0.019312&t=h&z=16)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: rawr apples on January 27, 2009, 12:47:28 AM
This isnt unbuilt, rather than abandoned, but have any of you ever seen the 10 mile stretch of abandoned freeway in Pennsylvania?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 27, 2009, 12:54:47 AM
Where?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: rawr apples on January 27, 2009, 12:56:12 AM
old abandoned stretch of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, starts in Breezewood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandoned_Pennsylvania_Turnpike (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandoned_Pennsylvania_Turnpike)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on January 29, 2009, 04:46:08 AM
Wow, a whole abandoned stretch, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 29, 2009, 12:12:40 PM
Quote from: rawr apples on January 27, 2009, 12:56:12 AM
old abandoned stretch of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, starts in Breezewood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandoned_Pennsylvania_Turnpike (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandoned_Pennsylvania_Turnpike)

IMHO, those tunnels should have been kept open for at least one direction of traffic.  Since the turnpike apparently has enough problems on Sideling Hill to warrant variable speed limits, I also have to wonder about the actual costs of bypassing those tunnels.  As much as it costs just to drive the turnpike anymore, I think they could afford to keep them open.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mightyace on January 29, 2009, 04:49:35 PM
There's also an abandoned stretch of the Pennsy Turnpike around the old Laurel Hill tunnel.

However, that tunnel is currently in use by Chip Gannassi;s IRL (and NASCAR?) race teams!

See Ganassi's Area 51  @ http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/08/ganassis-area-51/ (http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/08/ganassis-area-51/)  :wow:
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vdeane on January 29, 2009, 05:47:35 PM
I think the reason the tunnels were bypassed in the first place was because it was less expensive to build up the mountains than to expand the tunnels (they were only 1 lane each direction when first build so the PA turnpike would have to build a second tunnel at each spot in order to use them).
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: FLRoads on January 29, 2009, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: aaroads on January 26, 2009, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: DAL764 on January 26, 2009, 10:35:51 AM
Stubs for the proposed SR-9B (aka I-795) southeast of Jacksonville: The freeway is still supposed to built and connected to a new St. Johns River crossing, but plans have been pushed back quite a bit:
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=30.181081,-81.515636&spn=0.020812,0.049438&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=30.181081,-81.515636&spn=0.020812,0.049438&z=15)

Stubs and clearings for the Florida's Turnpike / Central Florida Greeneway interchange, which has been planned for, um, 20+ years and still doesn't appear to ever get built:
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=28.369614,-81.389744&spn=0.010592,0.024719&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=28.369614,-81.389744&spn=0.010592,0.024719&z=16)


Yes, Florida 9B is still a long way off. Florida 9A converting to Interstate 295 will happen next year at least.

I wrote FDOT about that Greeneway/Turnpike interchange in 2007, and they replied that there is no funding at this time and funding will not be available anytime soon.

Yes, the interchange between the Greeneway and the Turnpike will not be built until at least 2017/2018.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: PAHighways on January 30, 2009, 12:46:49 AM
Quote from: deanej on January 29, 2009, 05:47:35 PM
I think the reason the tunnels were bypassed in the first place was because it was less expensive to build up the mountains than to expand the tunnels (they were only 1 lane each direction when first build so the PA turnpike would have to build a second tunnel at each spot in order to use them).

That is the exact reason the tunnels were bypassed.  It is cheaper to maintain a road than it is to have to maintain lighting and ventilation systems as well as the tunnel structure itself.  These reasons were also being used to push for bypassing the Allegheny Mountain Tunnel earlier this decade.

My Abandoned Turnpike Page (http://www.pahighways.com/toll/abandonedturnpike.html)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: PAHighways on January 30, 2009, 01:02:38 AM
The number of stubs has slowly been disappearing in Pennsylvania with completion of the US 422 bypasses around Kittanning and Indiana, US 219 Bradford Bypass, and the former US 220 ends in Tyrone and Altoona to name a few.  Some that still remain:

PA 56 (http://pittsburgh.pahighways.com/expressways/cancelled/kvexpressway.html) - New Kensington
Birmingham Bridge (http://pittsburgh.pahighways.com/expressways/cancelled/ocfreeway.html) - Pittsburgh
Woodhaven Road (http://philadelphia.pahighways.com/expressways/wroad.html) - Philadelphia
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on January 30, 2009, 01:14:38 AM
I don't suppose the study for whether to keep or bypass all the tunnels is lying around the internet somewhere.  If it is so much cheaper, why not bypass the Blue Mountain and Kittatiny Mountain Tunnels by shifting the turnpike south towards PA 641?

Anyway, there seems to be a stub in Toronto on the Gardiner Expressway:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r87stk8cn2cy&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=28300636&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r87stk8cn2cy&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=28300636&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: PAHighways on January 30, 2009, 01:22:38 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on January 30, 2009, 01:14:38 AM
I don't suppose the study for whether to keep or bypass all the tunnels is lying around the internet somewhere.  If it is so much cheaper, why not bypass the Blue Mountain and Kittatiny Mountain Tunnels by shifting the turnpike south towards PA 641?

I mention the plans for Allegheny Mountain on my Turnpike (http://www.pahighways.com/toll/PATurnpike.html#Chapter12) page, but they chose to realign the highway on the eastern portal approach and keep the tunnel.  The only places I can think of where the 1960s study would be is either the PTC headquarters, State Library, or State Archives.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: djracer201 on January 30, 2009, 11:10:40 AM
What surprises me is that the stub for I-795 in Jacksonville when your going north on 9A has lane ending signs merging you over instead of directly moving you to the thru lanes.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on February 01, 2009, 03:25:25 PM
Aren't there stub ramps for the planned freeway on the Richmond Parkway in CA?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: corco on February 01, 2009, 03:27:59 PM
On US-30 between Rock River and Bosler Wyoming US-30/287 inexplicably widens into a 4-lane, interstate standard highway (except for one driveway).

Is this an aborted I-80 alignment?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Fwy%2F30%2F13to34%2F3.JPG&hash=a8b01fad0c4a1685d1990b69441000e0224f5503)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on February 01, 2009, 03:29:25 PM
Naw, probably just extra funds...
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: corco on February 01, 2009, 03:32:10 PM
Whoever decided to build about 14 miles of beautiful freeway in the middle of absolute nowhere wasn't very smart then
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on February 01, 2009, 03:32:37 PM
I think it happens often when DOT agencies have extra funds that they have to use.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: corco on February 01, 2009, 03:33:32 PM
Interesting- I wasn't aware of that
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mightyace on February 02, 2009, 06:00:44 PM
Or some politician wants a good road to his home/retreat/hunting cabin, etc.  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: John on February 02, 2009, 10:05:14 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg175.imageshack.us%2Fimg175%2F9015%2Ftx190zs5.jpg&hash=9d58786194ba3a7e4306c7951cb19c2d03f35e03)

The temporary end of the George Herbert Walker Bush Turnpike near Dallas.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on February 03, 2009, 03:15:13 AM
CA-1 widens out to near freeway standards in Mendocino, CA. I was wondering if they were ever planning on doing something else with that.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on February 16, 2009, 05:16:37 PM
More possible evidence for an unbuilt part of US 50 around Lebanon, IL:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.593395,-89.793191&spn=0.015429,0.043945&t=k&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.593395,-89.793191&spn=0.015429,0.043945&t=k&z=15)
Some the ground looks like it had been bought for part of a curve - almost lines up with the other curve on US 50 - and a large diamond interchange at IL 4.

(EDIT:  Looking at the historic imagery in Google Earth, I appear to be wrong since the above features seems to be more recent.)

Another area that looks like it had an interchange planned:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.616367,-89.609942&spn=0.015425,0.043945&t=k&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.616367,-89.609942&spn=0.015425,0.043945&t=k&z=15)

Another one at IL 127:
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.62475,-89.37168&z=15&t=O (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.62475,-89.37168&z=15&t=O)

More possible ROW east of Lake Carlyle:
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.62405,-89.26683&z=14&t=O (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.62405,-89.26683&z=14&t=O)

Another unbuilt diamond, this one east of I-57, and has a little more evidence from a topo map:
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.65281,-88.63559&z=15&t=O (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.65281,-88.63559&z=15&t=O)
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.65281,-88.63559&z=15&t=O (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.65281,-88.63559&z=15&t=O)

Unused four lane section at US 45?
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.68074,-88.51283&z=16&t=O (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.68074,-88.51283&z=16&t=O)

Plenty of other sections east of US 45 where there appears to be ROW for a future set of lanes.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alps on February 17, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: froggie on February 02, 2009, 10:06:55 PM
QuoteWhoever decided to build about 14 miles of beautiful freeway in the middle of absolute nowhere wasn't very smart then

It should be pointed out that it's not freeway.  There are at-grade intersections.  Though to be fair it's extremely rural with almost no population.

Could have been a safety issue.  Some of the most dangerous roads (like 666) are straight, flat, and in the country.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: akotchi on February 17, 2009, 12:02:51 PM
When I worked on the 895 project in Virginia (I did signing and striping for the western segment -- Laburnum Ave. westward), I noticed that the geometry of the EB approach to the I-295 ramps at the eastern end suggested that the mainline was to continue at one time -- I thought perhaps to I-64.  (That would have been nice.)  I was told by Scott Kozel, though, that it was only for a local connector to Charles City Road.  Wonder why that did not come to pass.

P.S.  When I first got involved in the project (for conceptual design), the route on the documents was I-895.  Further into the design, the route changed to the current VA 895.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: TheStranger on February 17, 2009, 01:38:05 PM
Sacramento area:

- tons of stuff around the I-80/Business 80 split, first off the portion of the realigned (but unfinished) I-80 path towards the center city (that would have replaced what is now Business 80 between midtown and North Highlands/Arcade), now used as right of way for the Sacramento Regional Transit light rail:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Winters+Street+%26+Grand+Ave,+95838&sll=38.635713,-121.407809&sspn=0.011968,0.019033&ie=UTF8&ll=38.636601,-121.406415&spn=0.011967,0.019033&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Winters+Street+%26+Grand+Ave,+95838&sll=38.635713,-121.407809&sspn=0.011968,0.019033&ie=UTF8&ll=38.636601,-121.406415&spn=0.011967,0.019033&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr)

- Route 244's terminus at Auburn Boulevard, which shows some of the pavement that would have continued eastward towards Fair Oaks (paralleling Winding way) and then across the river to US 50:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Park+Rd+%26+Auburn+Blvd,+95841&sll=38.643288,-121.365881&sspn=0.011966,0.019033&g=Park+Rd+%26+Auburn+Blvd,+95821&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Park+Rd+%26+Auburn+Blvd,+95841&sll=38.643288,-121.365881&sspn=0.011966,0.019033&g=Park+Rd+%26+Auburn+Blvd,+95821&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16)

Now, in the SF Bay Area...

- Slight extra width at the I-280/Army Street interchange, originally the point at which Route 87 (now unbuilt Route 230) would have met up with current I-280 after traversing the shoreline:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Evans+Ave+%26+Selby+St,+94124&sll=37.745964,-122.393832&sspn=0.012115,0.019033&g=Evans+Ave+%26+Selby+St,+94107&ie=UTF8&ll=37.746303,-122.394304&spn=0.012115,0.019033&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Evans+Ave+%26+Selby+St,+94124&sll=37.745964,-122.393832&sspn=0.012115,0.019033&g=Evans+Ave+%26+Selby+St,+94107&ie=UTF8&ll=37.746303,-122.394304&spn=0.012115,0.019033&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr)

- Former north terminus (1991 to about 2002) for the Central Freeway, Fell Street & Laguna Street in San Francisco:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Fell+St+%26+Laguna+St,+San+Francisco,+CA&sll=37.775188,-122.424592&sspn=0.003027,0.004758&ie=UTF8&cd=1&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Fell+St+%26+Laguna+St,+San+Francisco,+CA&sll=37.775188,-122.424592&sspn=0.003027,0.004758&ie=UTF8&cd=1&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr) - this was the point where the I-80 extension west to Golden Gate Park would have started

- Former right of way for US 101/Central Freeway from Fell Street to Golden Gate Avenue (this segment of freeway was demolished after the Loma Prieta Earthquake), now a diagonal line of parking lots northeast from Linden Street and Octavia Boulevard to Turk Street/Golden Gate Avenue:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Gough+St+%26+Grove+St,+San+Francisco,+CA&sll=37.777643,-122.422816&sspn=0.003027,0.004758&ie=UTF8&ll=37.777893,-122.423299&spn=0.003027,0.004758&t=h&z=18&iwloc=addr (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Gough+St+%26+Grove+St,+San+Francisco,+CA&sll=37.777643,-122.422816&sspn=0.003027,0.004758&ie=UTF8&ll=37.777893,-122.423299&spn=0.003027,0.004758&t=h&z=18&iwloc=addr)

- Route 380 west extension in San Bruno, never constructed (but exit numbers on existing I-380 segment reflect the unbuilt portion) -
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Cherry+Ave+%26+Bayhill+Dr,+San+Bruno,+CA&sll=37.628865,-122.427778&sspn=0.012134,0.019033&ie=UTF8&ll=37.627607,-122.425418&spn=0.012134,0.019033&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Cherry+Ave+%26+Bayhill+Dr,+San+Bruno,+CA&sll=37.628865,-122.427778&sspn=0.012134,0.019033&ie=UTF8&ll=37.627607,-122.425418&spn=0.012134,0.019033&t=h&z=16)

- The wide-median portion of I-680 in Fremont, where a Route 238 freeway would have begun:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=43300+Sabercat+Rd,+Fremont,+CA&sll=37.524737,-121.942041&sspn=0.012151,0.019033&ie=UTF8&ll=37.522729,-121.947169&spn=0.024302,0.038066&t=h&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=43300+Sabercat+Rd,+Fremont,+CA&sll=37.524737,-121.942041&sspn=0.012151,0.019033&ie=UTF8&ll=37.522729,-121.947169&spn=0.024302,0.038066&t=h&z=15)

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Marc on February 17, 2009, 08:00:24 PM
Hmm, seems to be a good bit from Memphis. Well, the is one from that area that really makes me angry.

The brand new I-40 "Little Rock" flyover was never finished due to insufficient funds. So, there is a ghost ramp in it's place. It's been there for several years now. They did, thankfully, finish the much needed I-240 ramp to "Jackson Miss" but it dumps traffic out onto the left lanes of I-240 rather than the right!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi25.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc61%2FHoustonNews%2FPicture1-21.png&hash=975910102694def0489c83eab87715004d8f7408)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Marc on February 18, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: froggie on February 18, 2009, 06:21:17 AM
TDOT split that interchange project into multiple phases.  Hence why you have the "ghost ramps".  The next phase hasn't started yet.
Well, one starts to wonder after four or five years of no construction :-D
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on February 23, 2009, 04:53:19 PM
Lots of it exists between Reno and Carson city along US 395.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Sykotyk on February 25, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=meadville,+pa&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=UH2lScf5GKKBtwefvtDTBA&ll=41.673457,-80.16818&spn=0.01529,0.036521&t=h&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=meadville,+pa&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=UH2lScf5GKKBtwefvtDTBA&ll=41.673457,-80.16818&spn=0.01529,0.036521&t=h&z=15)

US 6/US 19 in Meadville, PA.

The road has a right of way that continues north, but you're forced to 'exit' by way of jersey barriers to the right. Then make a left hand turn to continue. Southbound has a 'y' split, but lacks and evidence that the southbound side went any further north (other than the trees are cleared).

Quite an odd stretch of expressway. Was originally designed as a bypass of town.

Sykotyk
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: SSOWorld on February 25, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=h&lat=45.556692&lon=-89.670708&zoom=16 (http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=h&lat=45.556692&lon=-89.670708&zoom=16)

US 51 just north of US 8 in Oneida County, Wisconsin  You'll see the road stub for the northbound right-of-way.  The ROW continues northward another 5 miles (claimed, but not built)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Voyager on March 03, 2009, 11:55:14 AM
Now where were they planning on going with that?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: SSOWorld on March 04, 2009, 09:40:18 AM
and traffic volumes - outside of holidays and summer months - don't warrant it.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: hm insulators on May 28, 2009, 05:22:18 PM
The south end of the Glendale Freeway (California 2) in Echo Park, a district of Los Angeles. The freeway was originally supposed to tie into the US 101 Hollywood Freeway (heck, back in the 1950s, it was slated to connect to the I-405), but NIMBY-ism reared its ugly head and the extension was never built.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: njroadhorse on May 28, 2009, 06:14:12 PM
There is a slough of unbuilt remnants in extreme eastern Morris County, NJ.  The Eisenhower Parkway was supposed to cross the Passaic River from Livingston and continue to NJ 24 in Chatham.  There was a full cloverleaf that is overgrown there, as well as the bridges from where it was to be.  The bridges say Triborough Road, as that was what the road was supposed to be called in Chatham and Florham Park.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mightyace on May 29, 2009, 07:06:11 PM
This picture show the ghost mainline of TN 840 at its western end at I-40 near Dickson, TN

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3385%2F3564675258_db8be661f4.jpg&hash=40bb73a5c2584a2237b60b067bc1af70e14042d0)

TN840 WB@I-40_3 by mightyace, on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35254460@N04/3564675258/)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: florida on May 30, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
Quote from: AARoads on January 26, 2009, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: DAL764 on January 26, 2009, 10:35:51 AM
Stubs for the proposed SR-9B (aka I-795) southeast of Jacksonville: The freeway is still supposed to built and connected to a new St. Johns River crossing, but plans have been pushed back quite a bit:
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=30.181081,-81.515636&spn=0.020812,0.049438&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=30.181081,-81.515636&spn=0.020812,0.049438&z=15)

Stubs and clearings for the Florida's Turnpike / Central Florida Greeneway interchange, which has been planned for, um, 20+ years and still doesn't appear to ever get built:
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=28.369614,-81.389744&spn=0.010592,0.024719&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=28.369614,-81.389744&spn=0.010592,0.024719&z=16)


Yes, Florida 9B is still a long way off. Florida 9A converting to Interstate 295 will happen next year at least.

I wrote FDOT about that Greeneway/Turnpike interchange in 2007, and they replied that there is no funding at this time and funding will not be available anytime soon.

What's interesting is the 2003 Florida Highway Data CD has 9B listed (section 72002027, mileage 5.508) from the St. Johns/Duval County Line (assuming Race Track Road) north to where the stubs are, crossing I-95 in a northeasterly direction, crossing US 1 south of Bayard and running east of Bayard. Would they have the ROW this early and just waiting to build the road when funds become available? The way it curves southward seems to line up with the outer beltway.

But, it's not on neither the 2006 nor 2007 CDs.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alps on May 30, 2009, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: njroadhorse on May 28, 2009, 06:14:12 PM
There is a slough of unbuilt remnants in extreme eastern Morris County, NJ.  The Eisenhower Parkway was supposed to cross the Passaic River from Livingston and continue to NJ 24 in Chatham.  There was a full cloverleaf that is overgrown there, as well as the bridges from where it was to be.  The bridges say Triborough Road, as that was what the road was supposed to be called in Chatham and Florham Park.

Ever been up there?  Just head up Passaic Ave. and before you get to 24, turn left and head to the far corner of the development.  You cross a brook on a nice bridge and then it's a short but slightly soggy jaunt onto the Parkway.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Hellfighter on June 05, 2009, 03:13:30 PM
Here's some unbuilt evidence. On the northbound side of I-75 between the Chrysler HQ ramps and University ave, there is a lane that hasn't done anything and looks pretty old. I don't know what it might have been used for, but here's the street view (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.66363,-83.234954&spn=0.005396,0.027895&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=42.662887,-83.240913&panoid=FxtlOK9s1-pMMQvm761zxA&cbp=11,38.59,,0,-4.21).
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mightyace on June 05, 2009, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: Hellfighter06 on June 05, 2009, 03:13:30 PM
Here's some unbuilt evidence. On the northbound side of I-75 between the Chrysler HQ ramps and University ave, there is a lane that hasn't done anything and looks pretty old. I don't know what it might have been used for, but here's the street view (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.66363,-83.234954&spn=0.005396,0.027895&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=42.662887,-83.240913&panoid=FxtlOK9s1-pMMQvm761zxA&cbp=11,38.59,,0,-4.21).

From the looks of it, especially the aerial, it looks like the exit ramp used to be closer to the onramp loop.  The old exit ramp has been removed but the stub of pavement parallel to the interstate has been left there.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on June 06, 2009, 09:53:37 PM
A possible stub at the TN 319 (Dupont Pkwy) and TN 153 intersection:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=35.1199,-85.238854&spn=0.004037,0.010986&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=35.1199,-85.238854&spn=0.004037,0.010986&t=k&z=17)
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=35.1199,-85.238854&spn=0,359.989014&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.119738,-85.240633&panoid=eP8guwlYEzZDIPIth7xpsQ&cbp=12,211.63,,0,5.09 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=35.1199,-85.238854&spn=0,359.989014&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.119738,-85.240633&panoid=eP8guwlYEzZDIPIth7xpsQ&cbp=12,211.63,,0,5.09)

Stub with unused ROW at the east end of the La Salle Expressway near Buffalo, NY:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.073935,-78.947024&spn=0.00721,0.021973&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.073935,-78.947024&spn=0.00721,0.021973&t=h&z=16)

Stubs and grading at the west end of the Lake Ontario Parkway in New York:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.362349,-78.240252&spn=0.007176,0.021973&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.362349,-78.240252&spn=0.007176,0.021973&t=h&z=16)

This pair of u-turn ramps might have been planned for something on the Lake Ontario Parkway, or it's just an oddity:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.272901,-77.688811&spn=0.003593,0.010986&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.272901,-77.688811&spn=0.003593,0.010986&t=k&z=17)

There's a smaller pair farther east.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vdeane on June 07, 2009, 03:30:54 PM
I believe the u-turn ramps are just to allow cars to make u turns.  Until recently there was almost no traffic on the parkway (there still isn't too much).  The parkway is very old (no idea how old, but older than the interstates; if I had to guess I would say from the 30s or 40s), so the u-turns would have been necessary for people not use to freeways.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Ian on June 07, 2009, 04:25:11 PM
At the west end of the Betsy Ross Bridge north of Philadelphia, PA, there is a stub end where an unbuilt PA 90 was supposed to go to US 1/Roosevelt Boulavard.
Overhead view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=philly&sll=32.947112,-96.614272&sspn=0.008121,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=39.995969,-75.08018&spn=0.003707,0.009613&t=h&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=philly&sll=32.947112,-96.614272&sspn=0.008121,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=39.995969,-75.08018&spn=0.003707,0.009613&t=h&z=17)

Street view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=philly&sll=32.947112,-96.614272&sspn=0.008121,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=39.994449,-75.079494&spn=0.007414,0.019226&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.994374,-75.079434&panoid=owYAJ5Da5OddoEbHFvnHZw&cbp=12,310.34,,0,5.1 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=philly&sll=32.947112,-96.614272&sspn=0.008121,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=39.994449,-75.079494&spn=0.007414,0.019226&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.994374,-75.079434&panoid=owYAJ5Da5OddoEbHFvnHZw&cbp=12,310.34,,0,5.1)

Also, at the interchange of I-78 and I-287, there is an old cloverleaf ramp that is left there that was replaced with a flyover ramp for motorists heading from I-78 east to I-287 north.
Overhead view: http://maps.google.com/maps/mm?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=40.641768,-74.643838&spn=0.007343,0.019226&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps/mm?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=40.641768,-74.643838&spn=0.007343,0.019226&t=h&z=16)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: akotchi on June 07, 2009, 05:27:45 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on June 07, 2009, 04:25:11 PM
At the west end of the Betsy Ross Bridge north of Philadelphia, PA, there is a stub end where an unbuilt PA 90 was supposed to go to US 1/Roosevelt Boulavard.
Overhead view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=philly&sll=32.947112,-96.614272&sspn=0.008121,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=39.995969,-75.08018&spn=0.003707,0.009613&t=h&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=philly&sll=32.947112,-96.614272&sspn=0.008121,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=39.995969,-75.08018&spn=0.003707,0.009613&t=h&z=17)

Street view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=philly&sll=32.947112,-96.614272&sspn=0.008121,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=39.994449,-75.079494&spn=0.007414,0.019226&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.994374,-75.079434&panoid=owYAJ5Da5OddoEbHFvnHZw&cbp=12,310.34,,0,5.1 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=philly&sll=32.947112,-96.614272&sspn=0.008121,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=39.994449,-75.079494&spn=0.007414,0.019226&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.994374,-75.079434&panoid=owYAJ5Da5OddoEbHFvnHZw&cbp=12,310.34,,0,5.1)

Also, at the interchange of I-78 and I-287, there is an old cloverleaf ramp that is left there that was replaced with a flyover ramp for motorists heading from I-78 east to I-287 north.
Overhead view: http://maps.google.com/maps/mm?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=40.641768,-74.643838&spn=0.007343,0.019226&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps/mm?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=40.641768,-74.643838&spn=0.007343,0.019226&t=h&z=16)


The I-78/I-287 loop is a temporary ramp that was used during a construction project some time ago on the existing EB-to-NB ramp.  There has been some thought in recent years to reopening the ramp to trucks so that they do not have to weave from the existing left-entrance ramp across four (?) lanes of mainline on an upgrade approaching the northerly U.S. 202-206 interchange.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on June 07, 2009, 09:31:51 PM
That uphill grade doesn't really begin in ernest until the 202/206 interchange proper, though.  That said, the merging from the left bit is still a good argument for a right-side entrance on NB 287.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alps on June 07, 2009, 10:51:54 PM
well, it's done at NJ 17/NJ 4, where the main 17N-4W movement is a flyover, while the old loop was left for local traffic to Ikea.  In that case, though, there's a separate C-D road.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Hellfighter on June 07, 2009, 11:01:58 PM
At the east end of the M-8 Davison Freeway, we have a strip of pavement of what was supposed to be the continuation of it to I-696.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Davison+Fwy,+Wayne,+Michigan&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,114.257812&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FXERhwIdsy4M-w&split=0&ll=42.414578,-83.064998&spn=0.002895,0.006974&t=h&z=18 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Davison+Fwy,+Wayne,+Michigan&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,114.257812&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FXERhwIdsy4M-w&split=0&ll=42.414578,-83.064998&spn=0.002895,0.006974&t=h&z=18)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Mergingtraffic on June 14, 2009, 08:04:06 PM
How about the 4-level partially used stack of I-84 and the unbuilt I-291 (which is now part of CT 9 Expressway) in Farmington, CT.
Ahh...what could've been.

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=qyn25n8y238n&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=16248148&encType=1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=qyn25n8y238n&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=16248148&encType=1)

Note, the highway going up/down was supposed to be I-291..however this is where the CT 9 expressway ends.  The ramps on the "bottom" sides are being used to carry traffic from CT9 to I-84.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on June 18, 2009, 06:14:28 PM
Stub at the southern end of the Truman Parkway in Savannah, GA:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=31.974008,-81.110859&spn=0.016746,0.043945&t=k&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=31.974008,-81.110859&spn=0.016746,0.043945&t=k&z=15)

Stub at the western end of the US 80 freeway in the Columbus, GA area:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=32.489493,-85.031036&spn=0.004163,0.010986&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=32.489493,-85.031036&spn=0.004163,0.010986&t=k&z=17)

Do they really need all these beacons for WB US 80 there?
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=32.490018,-85.031036&spn=0,359.989014&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.490065,-85.030951&panoid=G9M3qarJRERgrSgGGcEprg&cbp=12,230.62,,0,4.56 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=32.490018,-85.031036&spn=0,359.989014&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.490065,-85.030951&panoid=G9M3qarJRERgrSgGGcEprg&cbp=12,230.62,,0,4.56)

Stub at the northern end of the Veterans Expressway around Tampa:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=28.133893,-82.504449&spn=0.008704,0.021973&t=k&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=28.133893,-82.504449&spn=0.008704,0.021973&t=k&z=16)

Stub at the I-75/I-375 interchange in St. Petersburg:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.776623,-82.657399&spn=0.004367,0.010986&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.776623,-82.657399&spn=0.004367,0.010986&t=k&z=17)

Stub on SB I-275 south of I-175:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.755337,-82.677347&spn=0.001092,0.002747&t=k&z=19 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.755337,-82.677347&spn=0.001092,0.002747&t=k&z=19)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Hellfighter on June 18, 2009, 06:18:56 PM
Unfinished intersection at I-280 at OH-25.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.677327,-83.509161&spn=0,359.988627&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.676444,-83.512962&panoid=AobV8pIZNGXHpIMocBpBvw&cbp=12,253.96,,0,-4.85 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.677327,-83.509161&spn=0,359.988627&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.676444,-83.512962&panoid=AobV8pIZNGXHpIMocBpBvw&cbp=12,253.96,,0,-4.85)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: travelinmiles on June 18, 2009, 07:19:25 PM

Stub at the I-75/I-375 interchange in St. Petersburg:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.776623,-82.657399&spn=0.004367,0.010986&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.776623,-82.657399&spn=0.004367,0.010986&t=k&z=17)

Stub on SB I-275 south of I-175:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.755337,-82.677347&spn=0.001092,0.002747&t=k&z=19 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.755337,-82.677347&spn=0.001092,0.002747&t=k&z=19)
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What were these routes originally planned as?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on June 18, 2009, 11:17:39 PM
Quote from: travelinmiles on June 18, 2009, 07:19:25 PM

Stub at the I-75/I-375 interchange in St. Petersburg:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.776623,-82.657399&spn=0.004367,0.010986&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.776623,-82.657399&spn=0.004367,0.010986&t=k&z=17)

That was planned as an off-ramp to 3rd Avenue North at 20th Street North nearby.

Quote from: travelinmiles on June 18, 2009, 07:19:25 PMStub on SB I-275 south of I-175:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.755337,-82.677347&spn=0.001092,0.002747&t=k&z=19 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=27.755337,-82.677347&spn=0.001092,0.002747&t=k&z=19)


What were these routes originally planned as?

From the Interstate 275 Florida (http://www.southeastroads.com/i-275_fl.html) page and research done by Justin:

A two lane ramp merges onto the left-hand side of Interstate 275 from 31st Street South for the planned St. Petersburg-Clearwater Expressway. The freeway was planned in the 1970s as a 20.2-mile Interstate grade highway. Cancellation of the highway occurred on May 12, 1978 because the new Interstate was more than 10 miles in length. A federal rule instituted at that time indicated that any new Interstate consist of a "final link" in the Interstate system, rather than a new wholesale facility.

The directional interchange with 31st Street South was salvaged from the scuttled plans. See the interchange and another concrete stub: http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=27.757846~-82.676336&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=27.757846~-82.676336&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

Don't know if it was mentioned, but there's the stub end of the Suncoast Parkway awaiting its northern extension:

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.685712~-82.499921&style=h&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.685712~-82.499921&style=h&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)

There are also abandoned bridge supports for the never built Cross Florida Canal bridge on U.S. 27-301-441 north of Belleview. You can't see them on this aerial (trust me, they are there), but you can see the carriageway split:

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=29.102724~-82.090262&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=29.102724~-82.090262&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on June 20, 2009, 12:02:39 PM
QuoteFrom the Interstate 275 Florida page and research done by Justin:

A two lane ramp merges onto the left-hand side of Interstate 275 from 31st Street South for the planned St. Petersburg-Clearwater Expressway. The freeway was planned in the 1970s as a 20.2-mile Interstate grade highway. Cancellation of the highway occurred on May 12, 1978 because the new Interstate was more than 10 miles in length. A federal rule instituted at that time indicated that any new Interstate consist of a "final link" in the Interstate system, rather than a new wholesale facility.

Lousy rule.  Although I don't the routing, it would be very nice to have a freeway grade alternative for US 19 in that area. 

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on June 20, 2009, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 20, 2009, 12:02:39 PM
QuoteFrom the Interstate 275 Florida page and research done by Justin:

A two lane ramp merges onto the left-hand side of Interstate 275 from 31st Street South for the planned St. Petersburg-Clearwater Expressway. The freeway was planned in the 1970s as a 20.2-mile Interstate grade highway. Cancellation of the highway occurred on May 12, 1978 because the new Interstate was more than 10 miles in length. A federal rule instituted at that time indicated that any new Interstate consist of a "final link" in the Interstate system, rather than a new wholesale facility.

Lousy rule.  Although I don't the routing, it would be very nice to have a freeway grade alternative for US 19 in that area. 



I have a mini map my former employer crafted in the 1970s around here somewhere that shows the network of planned freeways in Pinellas. The one from Interstate 275 was to loop northwest and tie into that interchange between U.S. 19A and Florida 666 and continue north from there.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Hellfighter on June 20, 2009, 04:43:31 PM
Here's (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.787329,-83.691874&spn=0.009488,0.022745&t=h&z=16) where I-73 was planned to split from US-23 and head northwest along US-223 toward Adrian and Jackson.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 21, 2009, 11:11:34 AM
some other unbuilt evidences
-the US 24 "rural expressway"/freeway at the southwest of Toledo http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=41.531776,-83.713503&spn=0.010634,0.018775&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=41.531776,-83.713503&spn=0.010634,0.018775&z=16)

-current northern end of A-13 at Saint-Eustache, A-13 was originally planned to reach A-50 near Mirabel airport
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=45.599146,-73.862135&spn=0.009939,0.018775&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=45.599146,-73.862135&spn=0.009939,0.018775&z=16)

-the current interchange with PQ-335 on A-640 at Lorraine was originally planned to be a cloverleaf with A-19

-the abrupt end of A-410 on Universite Blvd at Sherbrooke,
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=45.376478,-71.950911&spn=0.004989,0.009388&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=45.376478,-71.950911&spn=0.004989,0.009388&z=17)  note then they beginned to construct this Spring a interchage to replace the intersection and to begin the long awaited extension to Lennoxville

-A-40/A-440 interchange east of Quebec city, the ramp from A-440 east to A-40 west use a much more larger overpass then it was needed, A-40 is planned to cross the St-Lawrence river at this location http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=46.869089,-71.15834&spn=0.004856,0.009388&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=46.869089,-71.15834&spn=0.004856,0.009388&z=17)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Hellfighter on June 23, 2009, 01:24:16 PM
At US-23 east of I-75, the freeway ends at M-13 abruptly (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.950648,-83.969396&spn=0.005646,0.018024&t=h&z=17), but it was supposed to continue to Alpena.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Bickendan on July 17, 2009, 04:10:07 PM
Quote from: rawr apples on January 24, 2009, 10:00:11 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2F1%2F1b%2FPDX_US_30_Ghost_Ramp.jpeg%2F800px-PDX_US_30_Ghost_Ramp.jpeg&hash=c0b44f3329cf8cdaef24a43722e86ab528439fad)


Ramp Stub in Portland at I-5/I-84
This would have been a ramp from the Steel Bridge and earlier Harbor Drive. IIRC, this used to exist, but was removed.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.52684,-122.665207&spn=0.005359,0.009645&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.52684,-122.665207&spn=0.005359,0.009645&t=k&z=17)
That has both the ghost ramps from US 30 (not I-84) to the Steel Bridge; there is no surface evidence from the bridge itself, as reconstruction for the original light rail line and for subsequent projects killed it.

I-5/405/US30:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.542401,-122.673485&spn=0.002679,0.004823&t=k&z=18 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.542401,-122.673485&spn=0.002679,0.004823&t=k&z=18)
Would have connected to the Kerby St ramps (and those ramps were meant to be the Rose City Freeway -- thankfully never built).
More of the same interchange: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.545012,-122.675888&spn=0.002679,0.004823&t=k&z=18 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.545012,-122.675888&spn=0.002679,0.004823&t=k&z=18)
Only the ghost ramp from I-5 south to Kerby ramps is obvious; from the ground, it's very obvious on the ramps where they would have connected, which would have been Oregon's only full stack interchange.

US30: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.535382,-122.691268&spn=0.002679,0.004823&t=k&z=18 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.535382,-122.691268&spn=0.002679,0.004823&t=k&z=18)
I'm not sure where these would have gone, but given the safety issues that would be present had they been built...

I-5, Marquam Bridge: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.509095,-122.666744&spn=0.00134,0.002411&t=k&z=19 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.509095,-122.666744&spn=0.00134,0.002411&t=k&z=19)
Hard to tell, as this might have been fully eliminated, but the remnants of the Mt Hood Freeway interchange from the top deck would have been there and might be visible.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.512617,-122.667176&spn=0.00268,0.004823&t=k&z=18 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.512617,-122.667176&spn=0.00268,0.004823&t=k&z=18)
That one is the most blatantly obvious of the remains of I-80N. Also, an unbuilt onramp from the Eastside Industrial Area.

OR99E: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.507287,-122.66076&spn=0.002681,0.004823&t=k&z=18 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.507287,-122.66076&spn=0.002681,0.004823&t=k&z=18)
Savor this one while you can; the viaducts are being rebuilt and the Grand Ave viaduct (with the ghost ramp) is now gone.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on July 17, 2009, 08:15:39 PM
Stub on Stony Island Avenue in Chicago where I believe either the lakefront alignment of I-494 or I-694 was to continue north:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.717574,-87.585111&spn=0.00156,0.00515&t=k&z=19 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.717574,-87.585111&spn=0.00156,0.00515&t=k&z=19)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: WNYroadgeek on September 18, 2009, 10:28:11 PM
I-990 Stub End at NY 263: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.047248,-78.737152&spn=0.001929,0.003449&t=k&z=18 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.047248,-78.737152&spn=0.001929,0.003449&t=k&z=18)

LOSP Stub Ends near NY 18: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.363932,-78.234984&spn=0.003838,0.006899&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.363932,-78.234984&spn=0.003838,0.006899&t=k&z=17)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: wytout on September 20, 2009, 04:11:31 PM
This beautiful 4-level stack has only ever been half used, in the New Britain/Farmington, CT area at the I-84/US 6 interchange with CT-9.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.726895,-72.772343&spn=0.003651,0.007617&t=h&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.726895,-72.772343&spn=0.003651,0.007617&t=h&z=17)
Switching to map view from satellite will quicly illustrate what is being used there, and what is being left never-used to rot away into CT's highway history.

Here is a ground level photo approaching the mess from I-84
this picture is borrowed from Kurumi.com http://kurumi.com/roads/ct/pics/ph-i84wb-stack.jpg (http://kurumi.com/roads/ct/pics/ph-i84wb-stack.jpg)

Level 1, is E/W I-84/US 6 Multiplexed.

Where route 9 terminates at I-84 the road was actually supposed to continue north as part of the proposed Hartford Beltway system, and would likely have been signed as I-291, THIS IS THE SECOND LEVEL (a small portion of which was built from I-91 in windsor, east to I-84 in Manchester.  You'll notice that not only does this portion of roadway end in the middle of nowhere, it also starts in the middle of nowhere. It is unused roadway, that has never been used or connected to anything.

Levels 3 and 4 would have created a full interchange with I-84, and both north and south portions of the unbuilt beltway.

Half of Level three is used and half is unused.  It boasts one unused ramp, that both begins and ends at absolutely nothing, and one functioning ramp carrying WB I-84 traffic to CT-9 South.

Half of level 4 is used and half is unused.  It boasts one unused ramp, that both begins and ends at nothing, which is a common theme here, and there is one functioning ramp carrying NB Route 9 traffic to I-84 West.

For some great information about this unfinished interchange visit kurumi's sitehttp://kurumi.com/roads/ct/xc-stack.html (http://kurumi.com/roads/ct/xc-stack.html)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Scott5114 on September 21, 2009, 05:36:26 PM
Wow, that's a neat interchange.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on September 22, 2009, 01:03:48 PM
There are a bunch of stubs on IL 3 just north of the McKinley Bridge.  I know there was apparently once a plan for IL 3 to continue down to the PSB complex at least as an expressway along the riverfront, but I don't know whether these stubs were for that project or something else.

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qfc83b7gjxg0&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=41920922&encType=1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qfc83b7gjxg0&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=41920922&encType=1)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on September 28, 2009, 05:52:22 PM
Stubs where the Bella Vista bypass will branch off of US 71 in Missouri:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.567779,-94.382805&spn=0.005989,0.013733&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.567779,-94.382805&spn=0.005989,0.013733&t=k&z=17)
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.567779,-94.382805&spn=0,359.986267&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=36.568591,-94.38573&panoid=Ge5_ctsUuCxoL7uTC5c7Qw&cbp=12,161.41,,0,7.53 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.567779,-94.382805&spn=0,359.986267&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=36.568591,-94.38573&panoid=Ge5_ctsUuCxoL7uTC5c7Qw&cbp=12,161.41,,0,7.53)
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.568591,-94.38573&spn=0,359.986267&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=36.567907,-94.383413&panoid=ogL328M2iYZ1pbSUv-mzLA&cbp=12,163.03,,0,5 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.568591,-94.38573&spn=0,359.986267&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=36.567907,-94.383413&panoid=ogL328M2iYZ1pbSUv-mzLA&cbp=12,163.03,,0,5)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jjakucyk on September 28, 2009, 09:58:01 PM
The never-built Colerain Expressway is an infamous example here in Cincinnati.  It was blocked by neighborhood opposition since it was first proposed in the 1960's, and even scaled back plans have been derailed.  It's probably for the better, though even plans to fix the completely convoluted, partially completed intersections that remain are having a hard time getting passed.  Here's the interchange with I-74 with the unused mainline lanes at the top. 

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fjjakucyk%2Fcolerainexpy.jpg&hash=d252fe8883a229e2e3192fb89c186ffc8099697e)

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&gl=us&om=0&ie=UTF8&ll=39.159416,-84.551135&spn=0.006073,0.009763&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&gl=us&om=0&ie=UTF8&ll=39.159416,-84.551135&spn=0.006073,0.009763&z=17)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: nerdly_dood on September 29, 2009, 03:25:22 PM
Roanoke, VA: I-581/Valley View Blvd.

Before you ask, the ramps are grassy, and this interchange has been like this for as long as I can remember. (which dates back to 2002 cause thats when I moved to Roanoke)

On Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=valley+view+blvd+best+buy&sll=37.296964,-79.95796&sspn=0.00425,0.006899&ie=UTF8&radius=0.19&filter=0&rq=1&ev=p&ll=37.296964,-79.95796&spn=0.00425,0.006899&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=valley+view+blvd+best+buy&sll=37.296964,-79.95796&sspn=0.00425,0.006899&ie=UTF8&radius=0.19&filter=0&rq=1&ev=p&ll=37.296964,-79.95796&spn=0.00425,0.006899&t=k&z=17)

The ramp from I-581SB (top left towards bottom right) to Valley View Blvd is partially graded, and the overpass is done, but it's got "RAMP CLOSED" gates where that ramp would merge with the 581NB offramp.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on September 29, 2009, 05:23:01 PM
Are the ramps to/from the north actually graded?  Hard to tell from that sat shot, and it's been awhile since I was on 581...
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on September 30, 2009, 12:07:21 AM
Found a pair of unused ramps on a spur route from I-85 to the Atlanta airport:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=33.659523,-84.425887&spn=0.006206,0.013733&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=33.659523,-84.425887&spn=0.006206,0.013733&t=k&z=17)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jdb1234 on September 30, 2009, 12:38:25 AM
A ghost ramp exists on the Red Mountain Expressway in Birmingham, AL.  This loop ramp would have connected US 31/280 southbound to northbound US 11.  I cannot ever remember this ramp being used.  It is separated by a concrete divider on the expressway.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on September 30, 2009, 07:22:10 AM
jdb:  that ramp was open when the highway was originally built.  It was closed, as I understand it, due to a combination of safety issues and also completion of the Red Mountain interchange with I-20/59.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jdb1234 on September 30, 2009, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: froggie on September 30, 2009, 07:22:10 AM
jdb:  that ramp was open when the highway was originally built.  It was closed, as I understand it, due to a combination of safety issues and also completion of the Red Mountain interchange with I-20/59.


In other words the ramp was abandoned when the Red Mountain Expressway was finished in the mid 80s.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on September 30, 2009, 05:43:25 PM
More or less...don't have the specific timeline the ramp was closed, but it was originally open.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jdb1234 on September 30, 2009, 06:19:44 PM
On another note on I-20/59 southbound in Birmingham at about 26th Street, a ramp stub exists.  I seem to remember the stub planted with grass at one point.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2009, 06:25:11 PM
Quote from: jdb1234 on September 30, 2009, 06:19:44 PM
On another note on I-20/59 southbound in Birmingham at about 26th Street, a ramp stub exists.  I seem to remember the stub planted with grass at one point.

There is also this stub at the I-20/59 interchange with US 31:

http://www.southeastroads.com/alabama999/carraway_blvd_i-020_059_viaduct_view_w.jpg (http://www.southeastroads.com/alabama999/carraway_blvd_i-020_059_viaduct_view_w.jpg)

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=33.527569~-86.803772&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=33.527569~-86.803772&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)




A pic I took of the aforementioned loop ramp from US 31:

http://www.southeastroads.com/alabama001/us-011_1st_av_n_abn_ramp_03.jpg (http://www.southeastroads.com/alabama001/us-011_1st_av_n_abn_ramp_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jdb1234 on September 30, 2009, 06:32:48 PM
Quote from: AARoads on September 30, 2009, 06:25:11 PM
There is also this stub at the I-20/59 interchange with US 31:

http://www.southeastroads.com/alabama999/carraway_blvd_i-020_059_viaduct_view_w.jpg (http://www.southeastroads.com/alabama999/carraway_blvd_i-020_059_viaduct_view_w.jpg)

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=33.527569~-86.803772&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=33.527569~-86.803772&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1)


That is the stub at 26th Street that I was talking about.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jdb1234 on September 30, 2009, 07:58:08 PM
Also on Vaughn Road east of Montgomery a graded parclo interchange exists.  I believe this is for the Montgomery beltway that is planned.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on September 30, 2009, 08:02:42 PM
If you're referring to the grading just west of AL 293, that is correct.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on September 30, 2009, 11:32:43 PM
Quote from: jdb1234Also on Vaughn Road east of Montgomery a graded parclo interchange exists.  I believe this is for the Montgomery beltway that is planned.

Looks like there has been a little more grading than just an interchange there:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=32.344292,-86.06432&spn=0.050397,0.109863&t=h&z=14
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: DAL764 on October 01, 2009, 07:47:06 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 30, 2009, 12:07:21 AM
Found a pair of unused ramps on a spur route from I-85 to the Atlanta airport:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=33.659523,-84.425887&spn=0.006206,0.013733&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=33.659523,-84.425887&spn=0.006206,0.013733&t=k&z=17)
Those ramps used to see quite a bit of traffic, as it used to be the access road to the old Atlanta terminal that served the airport before the current Midfield Terminal was opened.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: nerdly_dood on October 02, 2009, 10:05:33 AM
Quote from: froggie on September 29, 2009, 05:23:01 PM
Are the ramps to/from the north actually graded?  Hard to tell from that sat shot, and it's been awhile since I was on 581...

Yes, partially. It can best be seen from the outer loop ramp, but it can also be seen from the main travel lanes on 581. The grading goes from the end of the overpass to about where the ramp would be leading away from the main lanes of 581 at a 90-degree angle, had it been built.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: WNYroadgeek on October 03, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Here's a ghost ramp that connected NY 96 and I-90 back when the Thruway was (believe it or not) free: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mightyace on October 03, 2009, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: WNYroadgeek on October 03, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Here's a ghost ramp that connected NY 96 and I-90 back when the Thruway was (believe it or not) free: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17)

I don't think that the Thruway was ever free in that section.  I think that is the ghost ramp from the time before I-490 was built.  If you look closely you can see a line where the toll booth may have been.

In any case, good catch!
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Hellfighter on October 03, 2009, 08:25:07 PM
At the west end of the M-59 freeway, it ends but was suppose to continue west to US-23.

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&gl=us&om=0&ie=UTF8&ll=42.641788,-83.282933&spn=0.005809,0.018024&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&gl=us&om=0&ie=UTF8&ll=42.641788,-83.282933&spn=0.005809,0.018024&z=17)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vdeane on October 04, 2009, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: mightyace on October 03, 2009, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: WNYroadgeek on October 03, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Here's a ghost ramp that connected NY 96 and I-90 back when the Thruway was (believe it or not) free: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17)

I don't think that the Thruway was ever free in that section.  I think that is the ghost ramp from the time before I-490 was built.  If you look closely you can see a line where the toll booth may have been.

In any case, good catch!
It wasn't the Thruway.  It was built between Rochester and Canandaigua in 1951 with the designation NY 96A before being assimilated into the Thruway.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mightyace on October 04, 2009, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: deanej on October 04, 2009, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: mightyace on October 03, 2009, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: WNYroadgeek on October 03, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Here's a ghost ramp that connected NY 96 and I-90 back when the Thruway was (believe it or not) free: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17)

I don't think that the Thruway was ever free in that section.  I think that is the ghost ramp from the time before I-490 was built.  If you look closely you can see a line where the toll booth may have been.

In any case, good catch!
It wasn't the Thruway.  It was built between Rochester and Canandaigua in 1951 with the designation NY 96A before being assimilated into the Thruway.

Ah, you learn something new every day.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on June 30, 2010, 06:40:26 PM
Found a stub on NB US 41/Lake Shore Drive around downtown Chicago that I'm guessing was for the I-494 (Lakefront Route) turn to connect to I-90/I-94:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890803,-87.614014&spn=0.001509,0.00515&t=k&z=19 (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890803,-87.614014&spn=0.001509,0.00515&t=k&z=19)

Street level view of the stub:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890462,-87.614315&spn=0,0.0103&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.891109,-87.613771&panoid=oLZqI2zWFJg33m6p6V4A2A&cbp=12,177.91,,0,2.23 (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890462,-87.614315&spn=0,0.0103&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.891109,-87.613771&panoid=oLZqI2zWFJg33m6p6V4A2A&cbp=12,177.91,,0,2.23)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 30, 2010, 10:43:58 PM
For generations Suffolk County left a stub west-to-northbound off-ramp at the end of Suffolk County Road 99(Woodside Avenue) and Suffolk County Road 19(Patchogue-Holbrook Road). I always saw this as a relocation of the ramp before they extended CR 99 to southbound Nicoll's Road.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg718.imageshack.us%2Fimg718%2F7863%2Fsuffolkcr99westboundstu.jpg&hash=ef023cc07f31b91b331bb2653d7693574b74e760) (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/suffolkcr99westboundstu.jpg/)


The last time I drove through that area, I could still see the stub from Patchogue-Holbrook Road, and I wish I had gone onto Woodside Avenue just to take my own picture of the stub.

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: nyratk1 on July 01, 2010, 07:13:50 AM
On LI, there's also the SOB Expwy (NY 135) at Jericho Tpke. (NY 25) and the LIE's eastern terminus at Suffolk CR 58.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 01, 2010, 08:05:05 AM
Quote from: nyratk1 on July 01, 2010, 07:13:50 AM
On LI, there's also the SOB Expwy (NY 135) at Jericho Tpke. (NY 25) and the LIE's eastern terminus at Suffolk CR 58.
Oh, there's much more than that on Long Island. Not only does the SOB Expwy have stubs at NY 25, but at Merrick Road. Plus the widened median between Exits 8 & 9 was for an interchange with the abruptly ended Bethpage State Parkway.

Near Yaphank you can find the formerly proposed Central Suffolk Highway beneath Patchogue-Yaphank Road(Suffolk CR 101) on the south side of the bridge over the main line of the LIRR. You can also find the westbound lane of the Central Suffolk Highway along Furrows Road in Holtsville between Nicoll's Road(Suffolk CR 97) and Waverly Avenue. Other unbuilt lanes can be found along Montauk Highway between Frowein Road(Suffolk CR 98) and "downtown" Eastport, and along NY 102 beneath the Meadowbrook State Parkway. And I'm pretty sure I'm missing plenty of others.

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Brandon on July 01, 2010, 10:50:39 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 30, 2010, 06:40:26 PM
Found a stub on NB US 41/Lake Shore Drive around downtown Chicago that I'm guessing was for the I-494 (Lakefront Route) turn to connect to I-90/I-94:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890803,-87.614014&spn=0.001509,0.00515&t=k&z=19 (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890803,-87.614014&spn=0.001509,0.00515&t=k&z=19)

Street level view of the stub:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890462,-87.614315&spn=0,0.0103&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.891109,-87.613771&panoid=oLZqI2zWFJg33m6p6V4A2A&cbp=12,177.91,,0,2.23 (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890462,-87.614315&spn=0,0.0103&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.891109,-87.613771&panoid=oLZqI2zWFJg33m6p6V4A2A&cbp=12,177.91,,0,2.23)

I doubt it was ever meant for I-494.  Those were built in the 1990s to replace the old S-Curve.  That may have been for a proposed ramp to westbound Grand to avoid the Navy Pier area just off to the right.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: english si on July 01, 2010, 12:56:22 PM
'Ski ramps' (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=55.851662,-4.269862&spn=0.004884,0.013733&t=k&z=17) in Glasgow - the land clearance to the South is for a new motorway performing a slightly different function to the one which teh ski ramps are for.  (also note carriageway flaring, where the plans were to be slightly different, with the road from the north taking the outer carriageways, and the road from the east taking the inner ones), and outer carriageways being shunted onto slip roads - that'll change when the new motorway opens next year.

Stub ramps (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=55.869773,-4.25908&spn=0.004882,0.013733&t=k&z=17) in Glasgow for unbuilt motorway. Would have been a directional-T here - the main carriageways dip and rise over/under slip roads.

Slip roads (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=55.866643,-4.235798&spn=0.004882,0.013733&t=k&z=17) come griding to a halt - road opens out massively for overblown junction - unfinished motorway ring road...

Obviously missing over/underpass (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.755422,-2.44257&spn=0.010289,0.027466&t=k&z=16) in Blackburn - the original plan was for the motorway to go through the town (incredibly rare thing in the UK), rather than round. You can see that the road is made of slip roads.

Motorway heading down slip roads (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.303634,-2.969871&spn=0.010399,0.027466&t=k&z=16) because the mainline wasn't built. The bridge was removed a few years ago and the original plans modified so that the original route's corridor is served by what was meant to be a spur.

Yucky! (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.071436,-2.409064&spn=0.005228,0.013733&t=k&z=17) Roundabout at a non-junction, on a new road (which even has some overbridges, then a link road, with a roundabout on this new main road, rather than ramps)

Road narrows (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.210601,-3.013204&spn=0.005211,0.013733&t=k&z=17), as widening scheme south of there hasn't gone ahead - not missing bridge.

Lots of hatching and a bridge that's too wide and skewed (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.343634,-2.740155&spn=0.005195,0.013733&t=k&z=17) - there was once a plan to have a second bridge here. Now the plan is for a new one upstream, with the one here used just for local traffic.

Just a few different things dotted about Britain.

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 01, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
what is a slip road?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: TheStranger on July 01, 2010, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 01, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
what is a slip road?

Sounds like British terminology for what we'd consider collector/distributor lanes...though I've also seen that word used Stateside to refer to frontage roads.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Truvelo on July 01, 2010, 01:45:53 PM
A slip road is what we call a ramp. Collector/distributor lanes are the same in all counties, we sometimes shorten it to C/D road.

Another form of unbuilt evidence are bridges built to accommodate a second carriageway like this (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.347713,-2.138364&spn=0.002386,0.00596&t=k&z=18).
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: english si on July 01, 2010, 02:14:19 PM
Yes, slip roads are ramps - the Blackburn one would have been a roundabout interchange - four ramps down/up (I think down, looking at the topology here) to the big roundabout (in fact, looking at it, there's stubs where they planned to build the flyover over the roundabout - but on the bits built when the mainline was diverted to the south). The other time I mentioned slip roads, it was for the unfinished Fork/Y-interchange.

Here (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=50.843346,-0.540551&spn=0.005494,0.013733&t=h&z=17)is an unfinished diamond - they didn't build the road to the west, but built the road through the junction. An embankment was built with a temporary road, producing a roundabout, giving more capacity. As the roundabout uses some of the ramps, it's rather weird, as it's on a slope. You can see the half-built road in the middle too.

Perhaps my favourite bit of evidence (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=50.824,-1.092861&spn=0.002748,0.006866&t=h&z=18). For an unbuilt junction, the bridges exist, 1/3 of the roundabout does and, most fun - the pedestrian underpasses under the unbuilt slip roads. This junction was going to be finally built, pre-recession, however it wasn't going to be according to the original plan, and about the only thing being used was one of the bridges!

One of many unbuilt services areas on the UK motorway network (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.611688,-0.728896&spn=0.010807,0.01929&t=h&z=16). This one got further (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.571639,-0.994134&spn=0.010334,0.027466&t=h&z=16). This one even got the stubs kitted out with roads! (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.629473,0.068815&spn=0.005401,0.009645&t=h&z=17).
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: triplemultiplex on July 01, 2010, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 30, 2010, 06:40:26 PM
Found a stub on NB US 41/Lake Shore Drive around downtown Chicago that I'm guessing was for the I-494 (Lakefront Route) turn to connect to I-90/I-94:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890803,-87.614014&spn=0.001509,0.00515&t=k&z=19 (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=41.890803,-87.614014&spn=0.001509,0.00515&t=k&z=19)

That's right next to where the Chicago Spire was supposed to be built.




Read through the whole thread and I see Milwaukee's stub ends and ghosts ramps have yet to make an appearance.

I-43/894 at the southern terminus of the canceled Stadium South Freeway:
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=42.96350,-87.96478&z=16&t=S&marker0=42.96140%2C-88.01259%2Cgreenfield\%2C%20wi (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=42.96350,-87.96478&z=16&t=S&marker0=42.96140%2C-88.01259%2Cgreenfield%5C%2C%20wi)
Would have roughly followed 43rd St on up to what was then County Stadium (now Miller Park, of course).  Probably would have been US 41 had it been built.

If we keep heading north we come to the north end of the Stadium Freeway at North Ave.
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=43.05909,-87.97210&z=16&t=S&marker0=42.96140%2C-88.01259%2Cgreenfield\%2C%20wi (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=43.05909,-87.97210&z=16&t=S&marker0=42.96140%2C-88.01259%2Cgreenfield%5C%2C%20wi)
Also note some of the r/w cleared for the Park West Freeway between here and I-43 is still visible immediately north of North Ave.

Have to turn back the clock to some '00 DOQ's to see the old Hillside Interchange on I-43 at WI 145 now.
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=43.05334,-87.92408&z=16&t=O&marker0=42.96140%2C-88.01259%2Cgreenfield\%2C%20wi (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=43.05334,-87.92408&z=16&t=O&marker0=42.96140%2C-88.01259%2Cgreenfield%5C%2C%20wi)

More recent view shows how the interchange has been simplified and of course the removal of the Park East Freeway:
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=43.050742537225815~-87.92290069162846&lvl=16&sty=a (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=43.050742537225815~-87.92290069162846&lvl=16&sty=a)

Chris Bessert's excellent Wisconsin Highways page has cool information including this diagram of the Park West Freeway as it was proposed in the 60's:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisconsinhighways.org%2Fmilwaukee%2Fimages%2Fmap_parkwest_1965.jpg&hash=8327400ca42594a2ca6a8bd5659b049bdd6e65d5)

We also have evidence for the northward continuation of the Lake Freeway at the elbow in I-794:
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=43.034872140850155~-87.89887882769108&lvl=17&sty=a (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=43.034872140850155~-87.89887882769108&lvl=17&sty=a)
The extra wide northbound ramp to Lincoln Memorial Dr. was meant to accommodate a Lake Freeway exit to Michigan St.  Consult the Downtown Milwaukee inset in any Rand McNally atlas prior to like 2005 to see the never-built Lake Freeway/Michigan St. interchange.

Lastly we have the only evidence that Milwaukee once planned on having a beltline.  The Mequon Rd overpass at US 41/45 in Germantown.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisconsinhighways.org%2Fmilwaukee%2Fimages%2Fillus_belt_aerial.jpg&hash=0f46e54058b0d1329ceaa8b03b6adfe22f236bd9)
Just enough extra r/w for a half semi-directional interchange.  The overpass itself spans extra space on either side of the freeway to accommodate the merging lanes of the "Belt Freeway".
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: nyratk1 on July 01, 2010, 05:45:34 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 01, 2010, 08:05:05 AM
Quote from: nyratk1 on July 01, 2010, 07:13:50 AM
On LI, there's also the SOB Expwy (NY 135) at Jericho Tpke. (NY 25) and the LIE's eastern terminus at Suffolk CR 58.
Oh, there's much more than that on Long Island. Not only does the SOB Expwy have stubs at NY 25, but at Merrick Road. Plus the widened median between Exits 8 & 9 was for an interchange with the abruptly ended Bethpage State Parkway.

Near Yaphank you can find the formerly proposed Central Suffolk Highway beneath Patchogue-Yaphank Road(Suffolk CR 101) on the south side of the bridge over the main line of the LIRR. You can also find the westbound lane of the Central Suffolk Highway along Furrows Road in Holtsville between Nicoll's Road(Suffolk CR 97) and Waverly Avenue. Other unbuilt lanes can be found along Montauk Highway between Frowein Road(Suffolk CR 98) and "downtown" Eastport, and along NY 102 beneath the Meadowbrook State Parkway. And I'm pretty sure I'm missing plenty of others.



And there's plenty of stubs for the unconnected portions of the Sunrise service roads particularly in my neck of the woods from East Patchogue to Brookhaven.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on July 02, 2010, 10:28:01 AM
QuoteA slip road is what we call a ramp. Collector/distributor lanes are the same in all counties, we sometimes shorten it to C/D road.

We'll occasionally shorten it to C/D road as well.

You'll also occasionally hear the term "slip ramp" in the US, too.

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: 3467 on July 03, 2010, 12:16:56 AM
LSD above is S Curve but Stony Island off the Bishop Ford is the Old 494 or 694
There used to be ramps for teh Western Ave Expressway on the Kennedy but thye have been removed

US 50 is a strange mix of US50 supplemental Freeway and original I 64 Most of Original I-64 is east of 57 Some of that is being studied for 4 lane mainly Olney east and I-64 to Lebanon is funded for a 3 lane
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 08, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: nyratk1 on July 01, 2010, 05:45:34 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 01, 2010, 08:05:05 AM
Quote from: nyratk1 on July 01, 2010, 07:13:50 AM
On LI, there's also the SOB Expwy (NY 135) at Jericho Tpke. (NY 25) and the LIE's eastern terminus at Suffolk CR 58.
Oh, there's much more than that on Long Island. Not only does the SOB Expwy have stubs at NY 25, but at Merrick Road. Plus the widened median between Exits 8 & 9 was for an interchange with the abruptly ended Bethpage State Parkway.

Near Yaphank you can find the formerly proposed Central Suffolk Highway beneath Patchogue-Yaphank Road(Suffolk CR 101) on the south side of the bridge over the main line of the LIRR. You can also find the westbound lane of the Central Suffolk Highway along Furrows Road in Holtsville between Nicoll's Road(Suffolk CR 97) and Waverly Avenue. Other unbuilt lanes can be found along Montauk Highway between Frowein Road(Suffolk CR 98) and "downtown" Eastport, and along NY 102 beneath the Meadowbrook State Parkway. And I'm pretty sure I'm missing plenty of others.



And there's plenty of stubs for the unconnected portions of the Sunrise service roads particularly in my neck of the woods from East Patchogue to Brookhaven.
Well, you can find those everywhere east of East Patchogue. You can also find them everywhere on the Long Island Expressway east of Exit 66 in Yaphank. Before the other on and off ramps at Exits 66 and 67 were completed, you used to be able to see where the westbound off-ramp became Long Island Avenue and then the service road restarted west of Yaphank Avenue.

From what I gather, you can still see the formerly proposed eastbound service road east of Exit 63 in Farmingdale onto Waverly Avenue in Medford.

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: JREwing78 on July 11, 2010, 12:50:35 PM
US-31 @ Napier Ave near Benton Harbor, MI. Previously intended to continue due north to the I-94/I-196 interchange, now being planned to tie into the I-94 Business Loop exit to avoid Pipestone Creek because of the endangered Mitchell's Satyr butterfly.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=42.08810642937652~-86.37343903606791&lvl=15&sty=h&where1=Benton%20Harbor%2C%20MI

More info: http://www.michiganhighways.org/indepth/US-31Freeway_Berrien.html
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on October 20, 2010, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: ComputerGuy on January 25, 2009, 08:11:14 PM

More of Wa here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways_in_Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unused_highways_in_Washington)


Quoting the Wikipedia article on unused highways in Washington, what was the intent of the area used for breakdown lanes north of the Seneca Street off-ramp along the Alaskan Way Viaduct?

QuoteShort ramp stubs exist on the Alaskan Way Viaduct near Safeco Field[19], only a short distance west from the Interstate 5/Interstate 90 interchange it was to connect to[20] [20], and where the Viaduct crosses over University Ave [21]. This has been turned into a breakdown area, as seen here.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: 3467 on October 20, 2010, 09:40:37 PM
If you look just east of Illinois 50 between the Kennedy(90/94) and the Stevenson (55) you will see the ROW or part of the ROW for the Crosstown(494). Chicago would still like to do something there but cannot decide what.
Perhaps someone might have a suggestion. I know we have experts here that can measure that ROW.Will a 4 lane tollway fit?

I think US 50 is S. Illinois has been discussed. Some 4 lane may be done there . There are some other 2 lanes on 4 lane ROW like US 34 in Knox County.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mgk920 on October 21, 2010, 03:39:07 AM
There are not a lot of unbuilt 'stubs' on the highway system in Wisconsin outside of metro Milwaukee, but one of the more interesting ones, IMHO, is along I-39/90 a bit southeast of Madison:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.961102,-89.100752&spn=0.018121,0.043945&t=k&z=15

This is where the incomplete US 12 freeway (the one running from Elkhorn to the Illinois state line, plus the partially-complete Whitewater Bypass) was originally planned to end.

The current end of the US 12 freeway at Genoa City, WI:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=42.498523,-88.317804&spn=0.018257,0.043945&z=15

The south end of the visible ROW is the Illinois state line.  I am unsure of the current status of plans to extend this freeway into Illinois as either a freeway or tollway.

(some of its proposed ROW is visible on the north side of McHenry, IL:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=42.36292,-88.266563&spn=0.018297,0.043945&z=15 )

The current other end of the US 12 freeway at Elkhorn, WI:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.698302,-88.543239&spn=0.018199,0.043945&t=k&z=15

From there to the Whitewater Bypass the proposed routing of the US 12 freeway is completely clear and except for in the Kettle Moraine area near Whitewater is entirely pool-table flat wide-open countryside.

The east end of the two-lanes on four lanes ROW US 12 Whitewater, WI bypass:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.819423,-88.69915&spn=0.018163,0.043945&t=k&z=15

The west end of the bypass (note the reserved ROW for the interchange):

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.844066,-88.782063&spn=0.018156,0.043945&t=k&z=15

There is also preserved ROW and some grading for two additional interchanges on that bypass.

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Elsewhere in Wisconsin, this is I-39 just south of County 'HH' in the Stevens Point/Plover, WI area:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=44.490597,-89.51746&spn=0.017664,0.043945&t=k&z=15

Note the curve in the roadway in that commercial area on the east side of I-39 - that traces the ROW for the planned US 10 east interchange, which is expected to be built in the next 10-20 years and will extend a new US 10 freeway from the planned high-speed free-flow junction at I-39 to the existing four-lanes just west of Amherst Junction, WI.

-Here is the east end of the approach freeway to the US 2 Richard Ira Bong bridge at Belknap St in Superior, WI:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=46.721991,-92.120318&spn=0.008488,0.021973&t=k&z=16

The original plans were to continue this freeway on a somewhat serpentine routing from there to feed into the US 2/53 freeway at the city's SE corner.  I am unsure if there are any remaining plans for that anymore.

-This is on US 53 between Rice Lake and Haugen, WI:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.58317,-91.760645&spn=0.034661,0.087891&t=k&z=14

The 1960s-era US 53 freeway ended here until the late 1980s.  The original plan was to continue US 53 northward as a continuation of the highly-engineered, fully interstate compatible freeway to the south, but the extension was downgraded to a lesser-engineered 'surface' expressway all the way to US 2 near Superior when the four lanes finally received funding (note the change in the highway's design standards at that 'S' curve) - the original plan was to continue the freeway northward with a very gentle, highly-engineered curve east of the highway that was ultimately built.

-This is US 14 at Oregon, WI:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.917024,-89.367857&spn=0.018134,0.043945&t=k&z=15

The plan is to extend this US 14 'super two' to the south and upgrade it to four lanes as this area grows as a Madison suburb.  Note how the development just south of this interchange traces the ROW.

One more-

-This is on the southwest side of Kaukauna, WI (just east of Appleton):

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=44.262704,-88.286004&spn=0.008867,0.021973&t=h&z=16

Note the odd angle of these streets.  Fieldcrest Dr was built on the proposed ROW of the never-built WI 55 freeway that was proposed to bypass the city to the west, cross the Fox River and continue along the Kaukauna-Little Chute border back to current WI 55 north of town.  This freeway was shown as 'proposed' in plans from about 1960.

Mike
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: SteveG1988 on October 23, 2010, 01:38:40 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Burlington+NJ&sll=43.011798,-77.446736&sspn=0.002287,0.005681&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Burlington,+New+Jersey&ll=40.110236,-74.806809&spn=0.004784,0.011362&t=k&z=17

Former location of a toll both for the NJ Turnpike Pennslyvania Extension.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Burlington+NJ&sll=43.011798,-77.446736&sspn=0.002287,0.005681&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Burlington,+New+Jersey&ll=40.104837,-74.796016&spn=0.004784,0.011362&t=k&z=17

And the former  East Bound only exit for US-130 that required you to navigate secondary roads.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Burlington+NJ&sll=43.011798,-77.446736&sspn=0.002287,0.005681&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Burlington,+New+Jersey&ll=40.104837,-74.796016&spn=0.004784,0.011362&t=k&z=17

Both were replaced with a new exit and toll plaza a few miles east that provides a direct link to US-130, for both directions.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Burlington+NJ&sll=43.011798,-77.446736&sspn=0.002287,0.005681&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Burlington,+New+Jersey&ll=40.098723,-74.78121&spn=0.009569,0.022724&t=k&z=16

Technicaly i would say, Deconstructed Evidence, instead of Unbuilt.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on November 06, 2010, 09:08:44 PM
There seems to be stubs for the once-proposed ped overpasses connecting the Gateway Arch over I-70 in downtown St. Louis:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.624966,-90.186266&spn=0.000792,0.002064&t=h&z=20 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=38.624966,-90.186266&spn=0.000792,0.002064&t=h&z=20)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: PAHighways on November 07, 2010, 12:01:37 AM
Stubs on both sides of the southern approach to the Birmingham Bridge (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Pittsburgh,+PA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.38984,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.430267,-79.973637&spn=0.000479,0.001717&t=h&z=20) in Pittsburgh for the cancelled Oakland Crosstown Freeway (http://pittsburgh.pahighways.com/expressways/cancelled/ocfreeway.html).
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alps on November 07, 2010, 12:07:51 AM
Quote from: PAHighways on November 07, 2010, 12:01:37 AM
Stubs on both sides of the southern approach to the Birmingham Bridge (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Pittsburgh,+PA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.38984,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.430267,-79.973637&spn=0.000479,0.001717&t=h&z=20) in Pittsburgh for the cancelled Oakland Crosstown Freeway (http://pittsburgh.pahighways.com/expressways/cancelled/ocfreeway.html).
Ugh, can't believe I was there and had no idea.  There was construction blocking off that side of the road - I hope they didn't remove the stub!
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Bickendan on November 07, 2010, 05:24:55 AM
Hard to tell from the satellite image, but there are a couple unbuilt ramps at the OR99E/224 interchange in Milwaukie: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.448864,-122.641346&spn=0.002326,0.005643&t=k&z=18
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: PAHighways on November 07, 2010, 01:04:47 PM
Stub ramp on PA 380/Bigelow Boulevard (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Pittsburgh,+PA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.90509,95.888672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.444934,-79.98989&spn=0.000527,0.001974&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=40.444884,-79.989968&panoid=-pYwCEBUxCnYLcPEdw86wQ&cbp=12,78.5,,0,-10.19) in Pittsburgh, which was to have been a ramp (http://www.gribblenation.com/swparoads/coulda/bigelow.html) from I-579 southbound to PA 380 eastbound.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: SidS1045 on November 07, 2010, 11:38:11 PM
The stubs that would have connected the elevated portion of I-93 in Charlestown (Boston) to the now-dead Inner Belt (I-695) are still there, closed off with Jersey barriers.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: LeftyJR on November 08, 2010, 10:52:57 AM
Quote from: PAHighways on November 07, 2010, 12:01:37 AM
Stubs on both sides of the southern approach to the Birmingham Bridge (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Pittsburgh,+PA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.38984,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.430267,-79.973637&spn=0.000479,0.001717&t=h&z=20) in Pittsburgh for the cancelled Oakland Crosstown Freeway (http://pittsburgh.pahighways.com/expressways/cancelled/ocfreeway.html).

Just think how much better the traffic flow of Pittsburgh would be if the Oakland Crosstown Freeway were built.  If you ask me, it is the missing link of Pittsburgh's system...more than the Southern Beltway.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Stephane Dumas on December 05, 2010, 04:59:47 PM
the intechange of US-10 and MI-47 seems to be a incomplete cloverleaf, did they have bigger plans for MI-47?
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.597844,-84.139373&spn=0.010676,0.027466&t=k&z=16
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: NE2 on December 05, 2010, 05:08:50 PM
Standard incomplete cloverleaf - whatever. This is where it's at in Michigan: http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=42.077712,-84.013674&spn=0.013347,0.041199&z=16
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: SSOWorld on December 07, 2010, 11:05:20 AM
Forgot the cross road :P
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jdb1234 on December 10, 2010, 10:17:38 PM
On I-65 near the 47th Avenue overpass in Birmingham, if you look to the west, you will see the current stub end of Corridor X just west of I-65.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: thenetwork on December 10, 2010, 11:39:05 PM
Originally, US-250 (and possibly SR-13 -- that might have remained the N-S route through town) was to completely bypass downtown Norwalk, OH along the current stretch of US-20/SR-18 to the north & east of town.  However, the bypass was never completed and the "scars" remain:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=norwalk,+oh&sll=41.459999,-81.695023&sspn=0.018075,0.043774&g=richfield,+oh&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Norwalk,+Huron,+Ohio&ll=41.249467,-82.5735&spn=0.009067,0.021887&t=k&z=16
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: triplemultiplex on December 11, 2010, 03:44:40 PM
Not sure if this was mentioned upthread, but WisDOT appears to have r/w set aside for a 4 lane expansion of WI 11 between Monroe and Brodhead.  This spot is just east of Juda:
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=42.59047,-89.44867&z=15&t=S&marker0=42.60112%2C-89.63845%2Cmonroe\%2C%20wi (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=42.59047,-89.44867&z=15&t=S&marker0=42.60112%2C-89.63845%2Cmonroe%5C%2C%20wi)
This stretch of extra r/w immediately north of WI 11 extends from Juda to the eastern WI 11/81 junction.  The first mile east of the current end of the WI 11 4 lane also has this extra r/w, but to the south of the existing alignment.
Seems likely that this r/w will sit idle for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: tchafe1978 on December 12, 2010, 11:12:39 AM
Driving that stretch, it's pretty obvious that extra ROW has been set aside. But there is absolutely no need for more four-laning in the stretch, traffic is pretty light. The concrete on the Monroe bypass sure cold use a repaving, though!
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: RustyK on December 12, 2010, 01:01:20 PM
Speaking of Monroe (Washington, anyway :)), this section of WA-522 between the Snohomish River Bridge and the interchange at Fales road has what looks like almost complete grading and such on the eastbound side of the highway:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.830876,-122.052355&spn=0,0.023947&z=16&layer=c&cbll=47.830863,-122.052483&panoid=qfdvT126huBMEUgnOHBeeA&cbp=12,242,,0,19.92

Right now, there is money allocated to upgrade 522 from the 2-lane mess it currently is to 4 between the Snohomish River bridge (including new bridge) and US-2 in Monroe.  This section, where it looks like a chunk of the work is already completed, has no funding and therefore won't see upgrades any time soon.  As someone that regularly sits in traffic on 522 as part of my workday commute, it's maddening. 
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: myosh_tino on December 12, 2010, 03:48:23 PM
Quote from: RustyK on December 12, 2010, 01:01:20 PM
Speaking of Monroe (Washington, anyway :)), this section of WA-522 between the Snohomish River Bridge and the interchange at Fales road has what looks like almost complete grading and such on the eastbound side of the highway:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.830876,-122.052355&spn=0,0.023947&z=16&layer=c&cbll=47.830863,-122.052483&panoid=qfdvT126huBMEUgnOHBeeA&cbp=12,242,,0,19.92

Right now, there is money allocated to upgrade 522 from the 2-lane mess it currently is to 4 between the Snohomish River bridge (including new bridge) and US-2 in Monroe.  This section, where it looks like a chunk of the work is already completed, has no funding and therefore won't see upgrades any time soon.  As someone that regularly sits in traffic on 522 as part of my workday commute, it's maddening.
On a related note, I started to pan west when I saw this interesting view from Google Maps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.814437,-122.093468&spn=0.006628,0.013797&t=k&z=16

This is located in between the current end of the WA-522 freeway and the Echo Lakes Road interchange.  It looks like there was a planned half-stack interchange here for a future north-south freeway.  Look at the way Downes Road and the rail line curve up from WA-522.  Maybe this is just a coincidence.

I also panned north to Monroe, WA and I noticed there is a strip of undeveloped land north of town.  Is that for a proposed US-2 bypass of Monroe?  It also looks like WA-522 would have extended north to the bypass.  I did a quick mock-up of where the bypass would be located...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2FMonroe-US2Byp.png&hash=644411380f6c0b82a214e4c938df06523b4cde45)
Does anyone know if this bypass has been killed or are there still plans to build it.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on December 12, 2010, 04:02:43 PM
The regional plan approved in 1974 had a WA 9 freeway/expressway that would have been on new alignment at its southern end, possibly tying into WA 522 at that location.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Stephane Dumas on December 13, 2010, 08:54:11 AM
There some ROW for a unbuilt diamond interchange on US-127 (formely US-27) in Michigan
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.435844,-84.677081&spn=0.010642,0.027466&t=k&z=16
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: RustyK on December 13, 2010, 05:21:52 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on December 12, 2010, 03:48:23 PM
On a related note, I started to pan west when I saw this interesting view from Google Maps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.814437,-122.093468&spn=0.006628,0.013797&t=k&z=16

This is located in between the current end of the WA-522 freeway and the Echo Lakes Road interchange.  It looks like there was a planned half-stack interchange here for a future north-south freeway.  Look at the way Downes Road and the rail line curve up from WA-522.  Maybe this is just a coincidence.

I also panned north to Monroe, WA and I noticed there is a strip of undeveloped land north of town.  Is that for a proposed US-2 bypass of Monroe?  It also looks like WA-522 would have extended north to the bypass.  I did a quick mock-up of where the bypass would be located...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2FMonroe-US2Byp.png&hash=644411380f6c0b82a214e4c938df06523b4cde45)
Does anyone know if this bypass has been killed or are there still plans to build it.

I think it's just a coincidence.  I don't know of anything that was planned through there, even the hypothetical I-605 would be further east.  As far as the Monroe bypass goes, yes - you're pretty much spot on with your rendering there.  See: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Projects/US2/RDP/monroebypass.htm (click on the pic to show a better map).  The north end of 522 has a small strip of pavement that extends beyond the current ramp, blocked by jersey barriers. 

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mgk920 on December 13, 2010, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: RustyK on December 13, 2010, 05:21:52 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on December 12, 2010, 03:48:23 PM
On a related note, I started to pan west when I saw this interesting view from Google Maps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=monroe,+wa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,98.085938&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Monroe,+Snohomish,+Washington&ll=47.814437,-122.093468&spn=0.006628,0.013797&t=k&z=16

This is located in between the current end of the WA-522 freeway and the Echo Lakes Road interchange.  It looks like there was a planned half-stack interchange here for a future north-south freeway.  Look at the way Downes Road and the rail line curve up from WA-522.  Maybe this is just a coincidence.

I also panned north to Monroe, WA and I noticed there is a strip of undeveloped land north of town.  Is that for a proposed US-2 bypass of Monroe?  It also looks like WA-522 would have extended north to the bypass.  I did a quick mock-up of where the bypass would be located...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2FMonroe-US2Byp.png&hash=644411380f6c0b82a214e4c938df06523b4cde45)
Does anyone know if this bypass has been killed or are there still plans to build it.

I think it's just a coincidence.  I don't know of anything that was planned through there, even the hypothetical I-605 would be further east.  As far as the Monroe bypass goes, yes - you're pretty much spot on with your rendering there.  See: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Projects/US2/RDP/monroebypass.htm (click on the pic to show a better map).  The north end of 522 has a small strip of pavement that extends beyond the current ramp, blocked by jersey barriers.

Interesting in that if you go to the closer-in aerial images of that area on Google Maps and then switch to 'map', it will show ROW property lines for such a highway bypass and connection, the only difference being that it connects back to existing US 2 farther to the northwest.

Mike
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: NE2 on December 13, 2010, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on December 13, 2010, 06:37:03 PMInteresting in that if you go to the closer-in aerial images of that area on Google Maps and then switch to 'map', it will show ROW property lines for such a highway bypass and connection, the only difference being that it connects back to existing US 2 farther to the northwest.
That's about as undeniable as it gets. Even better, http://gis.snoco.org/maps/property/viewer.htm labels it as proposed SR 2.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jdb1234 on December 14, 2010, 09:46:15 PM
Quote from: jdb1234 on December 10, 2010, 10:17:38 PM
On I-65 near the 47th Avenue overpass in Birmingham, if you look to the west, you will see the current stub end of Corridor X just west of I-65.

I did not think it would show up on google maps but here it is:

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&ll=33.574502,-86.817999&spn=0.008492,0.012167&t=h&z=16 (http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&ll=33.574502,-86.817999&spn=0.008492,0.012167&t=h&z=16)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mightyace on December 14, 2010, 11:55:07 PM
^^^

And, if you go to the west to the open section, Google has already labeled the highway as I-22!  :confused:
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: jdb1234 on December 15, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Quote from: mightyace on December 14, 2010, 11:55:07 PM
^^^

And, if you go to the west to the open section, Google has already labeled the highway as I-22!  :confused:

There are signs that refer to the freeway as I-22 only.  Like this:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs761.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx260%2Fjdbarnes1234%2F101_0266.jpg&hash=5ef716842f9e44024050fcd27a5d438a4d979e20)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 16, 2010, 02:40:01 PM
Here's another stub from Setauket, New York, although this time it's not from an unbuilt road:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg214.imageshack.us%2Fimg214%2F70%2Foldny25ainsetauketnewyo.jpg&hash=9f627a644b69537093cc7503c7f4f911c8c43496) (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/oldny25ainsetauketnewyo.jpg/)

This is an old right-turn ramp from North Country Road to Ridgeway Avenue, back when both roads were part of New York State Route 25A. None of these roads have been part of Route 25A since about 1958.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on August 06, 2011, 10:47:40 AM
I never noticed this unused partial "Y" interchange (http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/?org=aj#5003/0.6002=q:rochester,+ny:nelat:30.6113618818541:nelong:-86.5479196156992:swlat:30.1886381161459:swlong:-87.1720803823008:nosp:0:adj:0&p=c/5872/style=auto&lat=r616sr&lon=8j41jj&alt=71.197556&z=17&pid=5874) on New York 104 at Rochester before.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vdeane on August 07, 2011, 01:08:50 PM
Your link doesn't work.  Just get a blank grey rectangle with the bing interface on top of it.  I assume you're talking about the stub ramps to/from NY 590 north and NY 104 east?

EDIT: now it's finally started working.  Took a long time.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: 1995hoo on August 08, 2011, 09:15:23 AM
I'm a bit surprised nobody's mentioned the ramps from I-278 to what would have been the north end of the Richmond Parkway on Staten Island.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=40.610165,-74.110701&spn=0.006215,0.016512&t=k&z=17


You can see the other end of the unbuilt portion at the link below.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=40.560015,-74.171727&spn=0.012438,0.033023&t=k&z=16


Also on I-278 further west you can see where NY-440 was to have been extended southeast to meet up with the Richmond Parkway, but instead it has a stub end at Victory Boulevard.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=40.611542,-74.152458&spn=0.012429,0.033023&t=k&z=16


Down in southwestern Staten Island the interchange of NY-440 and the Richmond Parkway shows that what is now NY-440 was to be extended a bit further south (obviously not by much since there's not a lot of land there). I believe there was to be a parkway (meaning no commercial traffic allowed) running along some portion of the south shore.

http://maps.google.com/?ll=40.525772,-74.221272&spn=0.012445,0.033023&t=k&z=16
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Duke87 on August 08, 2011, 08:12:49 PM
The stub at the south end of the West Shore Expressway was potentially bound for a bridge across Raritan Bay.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on August 08, 2011, 08:15:03 PM
* There's a stub and an extra wide bridge on IL 120 at IL 21 - possibly for a C-D setup? for the original ramp at this intersection before the EB entrance was changed to a loop ramp.
Aerial:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.343534,-87.943497&spn=0.006503,0.016512&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.343534,-87.943497&spn=0.006503,0.016512&t=k&z=17)

Streetviews:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.342817,-87.943556&spn=0.003251,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.34361,-87.942621&panoid=cTBYaaqW9JfGWvngyJRbIQ&cbp=12,111.72,,0,1.64 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.342817,-87.943556&spn=0.003251,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.34361,-87.942621&panoid=cTBYaaqW9JfGWvngyJRbIQ&cbp=12,111.72,,0,1.64)

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.343143,-87.94642&spn=0.003271,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.343143,-87.94642&panoid=TM044X4kkRAYhN5Iqi7bqw&cbp=12,97.43,,0,-3.1 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.343143,-87.94642&spn=0.003271,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.343143,-87.94642&panoid=TM044X4kkRAYhN5Iqi7bqw&cbp=12,97.43,,0,-3.1)

* The IL 137 interchange at 24th Street features an abandoned entrance ramp to NB IL 137

Aerial:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.316884,-87.842453&spn=0.003272,0.008256&t=k&z=18 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.316884,-87.842453&spn=0.003272,0.008256&t=k&z=18)

Streetview:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.315183,-87.844802&spn=0.003273,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.315262,-87.845024&panoid=tmWPJrevv5i1kxt90gMpiA&cbp=12,43.52,,0,7.54 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.315183,-87.844802&spn=0.003273,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.315262,-87.845024&panoid=tmWPJrevv5i1kxt90gMpiA&cbp=12,43.52,,0,7.54)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 08, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on August 08, 2011, 08:12:49 PM
The stub at the south end of the West Shore Expressway was potentially bound for a bridge across Raritan Bay.
I thought that was supposed to be for the Shore Front Parkway.
http://www.nycroads.com/roads/shore-front-SI/
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mgk920 on August 08, 2011, 11:25:38 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 08, 2011, 08:15:03 PM
* There's a stub and an extra wide bridge on IL 120 at IL 21 - possibly for a C-D setup?

Aerial:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.343534,-87.943497&spn=0.006503,0.016512&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.343534,-87.943497&spn=0.006503,0.016512&t=k&z=17)

Streetviews:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.342817,-87.943556&spn=0.003251,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.34361,-87.942621&panoid=cTBYaaqW9JfGWvngyJRbIQ&cbp=12,111.72,,0,1.64 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.342817,-87.943556&spn=0.003251,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.34361,-87.942621&panoid=cTBYaaqW9JfGWvngyJRbIQ&cbp=12,111.72,,0,1.64)

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.343143,-87.94642&spn=0.003271,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.343143,-87.94642&panoid=TM044X4kkRAYhN5Iqi7bqw&cbp=12,97.43,,0,-3.1 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.343143,-87.94642&spn=0.003271,0.008256&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.343143,-87.94642&panoid=TM044X4kkRAYhN5Iqi7bqw&cbp=12,97.43,,0,-3.1)

If you pan to the west, you can make out the ROW for the planned IL 53 and 120 Lake County freeways/tollways, including a 'Y' interchange on the south side of Grayslake, and you can trace the IL 120 ROW west to the north side of McHenry with it curving northward there to feed into the US 12 freeway at the Wisconsin state line at Richmond, IL/Genoa City, WI.

Mike
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Beltway on October 31, 2011, 12:30:07 PM
Quote from: akotchi on February 17, 2009, 12:02:51 PM
When I worked on the 895 project in Virginia (I did signing and striping for the western segment -- Laburnum Ave. westward), I noticed that the geometry of the EB approach to the I-295 ramps at the eastern end suggested that the mainline was to continue at one time -- I thought perhaps to I-64.  (That would have been nice.)  I was told by Scott Kozel, though, that it was only for a local connector to Charles City Road.  Wonder why that did not come to pass.

P.S.  When I first got involved in the project (for conceptual design), the route on the documents was I-895.  Further into the design, the route changed to the current VA 895.

It was still an Interstate project to be funded by FHWA 4F funds, before it was approved as a PPTA project in 1995.

The proposed eastern connector to Charles City Road was about 1/2 mile long, basically a 2-lane extension from VA-895 across I-295.

I saw a Henrico County planning map a couple years ago, showing that this connector is still proposed sometime in the future, but now extending for about 3 miles.  The VA-895/I-295 interchange was designed with the provision for this extension.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: SSOWorld on October 31, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
http://g.co/maps/4b9r3

What was to become part of the Stadium freeway at I-894.  the Off-ramp from EB 894 was yanked already, and its expected the rest will go as well as part of the I-94 rebuild.  It connects to a park-and-ride but the shot shows construction staging on it.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: roadman65 on October 31, 2011, 08:44:29 PM
No one mentioned the ghost ramps in Elizabeth, NJ on I-278 that were once to be for NJ 81 before it was decided to join I-95 at current Exit 13A.  It is in the spaghetti bowl at the west end of the Goethals Bridge.

Then the median of I-278 from the tangle to US 1 and 9 shows evidence of a proposed inner freeway that would have been connected to the never built I-278 extension to meet its parent in Springfield, NJ.

Near Essex, MD is a freeway stub on I-695 at the MD 702 interchange where currently I-695 exits itself between the South-East and Windlass Freeways.  Originally the Windlass Freeway was planned to run from the I-95/ Moravia Road Interchange in Baltimore to Chase, MD.  That also explains the drastic curve between the Windlass and Patapsco Freeways as well.

The Bel Air Bypass for US 1 has stubs at the MD 24 interchange (south end of duplex) that were to be for a cloverleaf if MD 24 was ever to be realigned north of Bel Air.  In addition, an empty right of way with the bridges over US 1 throughout Bel Air over it, indicated once a full freeway planned for US 1.  Also, a stub once stood at the end of the Bel Air Bypass at its north end, but was flattened to make way for the US 1 Bypass around Hickory.  The original ramp to north beginning of the Bel Air Bypass is now Water Tower Road as seen from google maps and satelite if you check it out where both US 1 and US 1 Business meet between Bel Air and Hickory on the NW quadrent and on the SW quadrent is seen the old end ramp from the Bypass to the original US 1 severed from US 1, but connected to US 1 Business.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vtk on November 04, 2011, 05:00:36 AM
The ramp from 3rd/Elm to SB I-71 in Cincinnati appears to fork, with the right branch ending abruptly in mid-air.  I assume it's meant to eventually connect to I-75 NB?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: NE2 on November 04, 2011, 03:24:33 PM
Quote from: vtk on November 04, 2011, 05:00:36 AM
The ramp from 3rd/Elm to SB I-71 in Cincinnati appears to fork, with the right branch ending abruptly in mid-air.  I assume it's meant to eventually connect to I-75 NB?
That's a remnant of the old configuration, when that ramp was I-71: http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=9.81483509824305E-06&lat=39.0984289386752&lon=-84.5192992762902&year=1970
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vtk on November 04, 2011, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 04, 2011, 03:24:33 PM
Quote from: vtk on November 04, 2011, 05:00:36 AM
The ramp from 3rd/Elm to SB I-71 in Cincinnati appears to fork, with the right branch ending abruptly in mid-air.  I assume it's meant to eventually connect to I-75 NB?
That's a remnant of the old configuration, when that ramp was I-71: http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=9.81483509824305E-06&lat=39.0984289386752&lon=-84.5192992762902&year=1970

I'm not convinced.  When I overlay the current configuration with the 1993 imagery from Google Earth, it's clear the old ramp was considerably wider than the current stub.  From that fact it's apparent that they rebuilt the entire structure in the Fort Washington Way project, meaning this stub was built as such, presumably for a future purpose.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: NE2 on November 04, 2011, 04:52:07 PM
I don't have Google Earth so I can't check, but it's possible that the apparent difference in width is an illusion caused by photos taken at different angles.

It's also possible that it was a new ramp required during reconstruction but no longer needed.

Or of course you may be right.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: WNYroadgeek on June 27, 2012, 12:24:24 AM
Stub at end of I-390 NB Exit 13 onramp/offramp: http://goo.gl/maps/pbtT
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: NE2 on June 27, 2012, 12:50:13 AM
http://russnelson.com/unfinished-railroads.html :)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mcdonaat on June 27, 2012, 12:52:50 AM
A few abandoned ghost ramps to speak of! Besides Louisiana 3132, I-220, and Earhart throughout the state, there are tons of abandoned slip ramps for Interstate 49's planned rest areas. I heard that I-49 will have them built when the road is connected north to Texarkana, but that's just wishful thinking on my part.

I-310 ghost ramp, to be connected to I-49 South (rumors of it being I-6): http://goo.gl/maps/rTtH
I-49 ghost ramps for rest areas, south of Natchitoches: http://goo.gl/maps/ymlk
I-49 ghost ramps for rest areas, north of Boyce: http://goo.gl/maps/SsaQ
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: ARMOURERERIC on June 27, 2012, 01:24:29 AM
Quote from: mightyace on October 03, 2009, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: WNYroadgeek on October 03, 2009, 08:08:16 PM
Here's a ghost ramp that connected NY 96 and I-90 back when the Thruway was (believe it or not) free: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.012673,-77.445159&spn=0.00386,0.006899&t=k&z=17)

I don't think that the Thruway was ever free in that section.  I think that is the ghost ramp from the time before I-490 was built.  If you look closely you can see a line where the toll booth may have been.

In any case, good catch!

I actually looked this up on historic ariels.  It shows from 1951 a completed Thruway easterly to the now location of exit 44, ontly thing is the Thruway at that point curves southward to a grade separation with NY 96.  West of Victor, the Thruway was graded for a good distance, at the 96 cloverleaf, there were no Thruway E to 96/Rochester Ramps and no 96W to Thruway east ramps, no ramps at all in the SE quadrant.  But there appears to be no toll facilities in operation.  Check it out.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: NE2 on June 27, 2012, 03:11:06 AM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on June 27, 2012, 01:24:29 AM
Check it out.
This is much easier with a link: http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=1.62411595546177E-05&lat=43.010368770868&lon=-77.4444569926233&year=1951
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alps on June 27, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
Quote from: NE2 on June 27, 2012, 03:11:06 AM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on June 27, 2012, 01:24:29 AM
Check it out.
This is much easier with a link: http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=1.62411595546177E-05&lat=43.010368770868&lon=-77.4444569926233&year=1951
Not too much reason to toll a road that only goes one exit.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: TXtoNJ on June 27, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
Surprised that no one has mentioned the ghost ramps for the proposed I-70 and I-83 on I-95 in Baltimore.

http://goo.gl/maps/eoA4 (http://goo.gl/maps/eoA4)
http://goo.gl/maps/tXqU (http://goo.gl/maps/tXqU)

There's also the Goat Path Expressway northeast of Lancaster, PA, once planned to be a freeway extension of PA 23 to Norristown. It's now an overgrown right-of-way with bridges, but no roadways:

http://goo.gl/maps/nCal (http://goo.gl/maps/nCal)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vdeane on June 27, 2012, 10:23:23 AM
Quote from: NE2 on June 27, 2012, 03:11:06 AM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on June 27, 2012, 01:24:29 AM
Check it out.
This is much easier with a link: http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=1.62411595546177E-05&lat=43.010368770868&lon=-77.4444569926233&year=1951
Sure, if you run Windows.  Silverlight won't run on Linux.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: PHLBOS on June 27, 2012, 10:26:54 AM
Quote from: froggie on July 02, 2010, 10:28:01 AM
QuoteA slip road is what we call a ramp. Collector/distributor lanes are the same in all counties, we sometimes shorten it to C/D road.

We'll occasionally shorten it to C/D road as well.

You'll also occasionally hear the term "slip ramp" in the US, too.
At least in the northeast, slip ramp and C/D road aren't necessarily the same thing/interchangeable.

An example of this is located along one of the ramps from Philadelphia International Airport (Arrivals roads) to I-95 North.  The ramp, which was constructed in 2000-2001, is located on the left side of the exit ramp and allows traffic access to the Recirculation Road and the Economy Parking Lot that wouldn't have otherwise existed.  The design plans indeed referred this short, connector road as a Slip Ramp.

Note: you'll have to zoom in and switch to Aerial view to get the full effect:
http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9LnBobCU3ZXNzdC4wJTdlcGcuMSZiYj01NS42ODkwNzc0NzkzMTY3JTdlLTM5LjE5MTQ4MjU0MzUlN2UxNi45OTIyMzgyODUxOTQ2JTdlLTExNC44NjUzMTA2Njg1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9LnBobCU3ZXNzdC4wJTdlcGcuMSZiYj01NS42ODkwNzc0NzkzMTY3JTdlLTM5LjE5MTQ4MjU0MzUlN2UxNi45OTIyMzgyODUxOTQ2JTdlLTExNC44NjUzMTA2Njg1)

Back to the topic at hand:

I don't have time to post too many other links but here's a few locations of unbuilt evidence; I'm a bit surprised that many of these weren't mentioned as of yet.

Pennsylvania

Philadelphia: I-95/Airport/PA 291 interchange (Exits 12-13) - Built in 1985, this interchange still shows hints of how the long-dead I-695 Cobbs Creek Expressway would've connected.  Along the I-95 South exit ramps from the Airport Terminals where there are at-grade ghost-ramps for would have been I-695 north. 

Additionally, the ramps to the Airport's Arrivals Roadway from I-95 that cross over the highway itself features a long overpass with 3 bridge supports spaced in such a manner that the outer sections are wide enough to accommodate another multi-lane highway (I-695).  The corridors in question currently are turfed.  Prior to the relocation of the Departures Roadway ramp (in 2000), the original ramp (which was located alongside the fore-mentioned Arrivals Roadway ramps prior to its tear-down) featured an identical  layout. 

One ghost-ramp to I-695 that ultimately became reality (somewhat) was the ramp from I-95 North.  A portion of this ramp, as it veered off the mainline I-95, was constructed in 2000-2001 is now an exit ramp to the Airport (Exit 12) from I-95 North.  Prior to this ramp's existence, 95 norhtbounders had to get on PA 291 east first (at Exit 10) before heading into the airport.

Doylestown: US 202/East State Street - while the Bypass is being extended to the south (in a Parkway arrangement at the PA 611 cloverleaf) evidence of a northern extension of a 202 Bypass/Expressway still exists a mile or two northward with a mainline stub to what would have been a diamond interchange.  Access to and from the bypass is done using what would have been entrance/exit ramps for the SW & SE quadrants of the diamond.

Bridgeport/Upper Merion (south of Norristown): US 202/PA 23 - a stub still exists for what would have been the Schuylkill Parkway (PA 23 bypass?).

Upper Leacock Township (Lancaster County): PA 772 (Newport Road), south of PA 23 - shows strong evidence (including PA 772 using an overpass) of a diamond or condensed cloverleaf interchange with what would have been the PA 23 Expressway/Bypass.  Ramp stubs from PA 772 are easily evident as well.  Note: a portion of the PA 23 Expressway/Bypass was built just outside of Lancaster City a few years ago.

Note: you'll have to zoom in and switch to Aerial view to get the full effect:

http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9Lmxlb2xhJTI1MmMlMmJwYSU3ZXNzdC4wJTdlcGcuMSZiYj01NS42ODkwNzc0NzkzMTY3JTdlLTM5LjE5MTQ4MjU0MzUlN2UxNi45OTIyMzgyODUxOTQ2JTdlLTExNC44NjUzMTA2Njg1 (http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9Lmxlb2xhJTI1MmMlMmJwYSU3ZXNzdC4wJTdlcGcuMSZiYj01NS42ODkwNzc0NzkzMTY3JTdlLTM5LjE5MTQ4MjU0MzUlN2UxNi45OTIyMzgyODUxOTQ2JTdlLTExNC44NjUzMTA2Njg1)

New Jersey

Ewing Township: I-95/Former I-295/(future I-195) between Exits 4 & 5 - Although not so much visible anymore, there used to be at-grade ghost-ramps/pavement patches (including ramp striping) for what would've been (and IMHO should've been) I-95 North.  The obviously wide median between the northbound and southbound lanes are the most visual hint of what would have been an interchange.

Rhode Island

Newport: RI 138/Admiral Kalbfus Blvd. - Ghost ramps and a mainline stub for what would have either been I-895 or even a southern extension of RI 24 from Portsmouth still exist to this day.  This is also where RI 138 changes from an east-west road to a north-south road.

Further south, towards the Newport Bridge/JT Connell Hwy/RI 138A/238, there's a mainline stub of what might've been a short highway spur from RI 138/possible I-895.  It appears to be presently used as a make-shift Park-and-Ride(?) lot.

Note: you'll have to zoom in and switch to Aerial view to get the full effect:

http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9Lm5ld3BvcnQlMjUyYyUyYnJpJTdlc3N0LjAlN2VwZy4xJmJiPTU1LjY4OTA3NzQ3OTMxNjclN2UtMzkuMTkxNDgyNTQzNSU3ZTE2Ljk5MjIzODI4NTE5NDYlN2UtMTE0Ljg2NTMxMDY2ODU= (http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9Lm5ld3BvcnQlMjUyYyUyYnJpJTdlc3N0LjAlN2VwZy4xJmJiPTU1LjY4OTA3NzQ3OTMxNjclN2UtMzkuMTkxNDgyNTQzNSU3ZTE2Ljk5MjIzODI4NTE5NDYlN2UtMTE0Ljg2NTMxMDY2ODU=)

North Kingston: US 1/RI 138 - ramps stubs and ghost ramps still exit on what would have been a full-cloverleaf interchange carrying RI 138 (& I-895) under US 1.

Johnstown: I-295/US 6/US 6A Exit 6 - mainline stubs, hints of ghost ramps and even a 'fly-under' ramp underneath I-295 are what remains of what would've been I-84 linking Providence to Hartford.

Massachusetts

Canton: I-95/93/US 1/MA 128 Exits 12 & 1 - traces of ghost ramps and one fly-over ramp crossing the Yankee Division Highway (I-95/US 1/MA 128) still remain to this day.  The interchange, originally built in the mid-60s, was supposed be a cloverleaf design with fly-over ramps from I-95 south to then-MA 128 north & south.  The unused fly-over ramp over I-95 at the southern part of the interchange was torn down a decade to a decade-and-a-half ago to accommodate a longer ramp from I-95 North to I-93 North.  A portion of a long-since decommissioned cloverleaf ramp from I-95/MA 128 North to I-95 South still exists as construction/maintenance/salt vehicle accessway to a salt(?) shed.

Attleboro: I-95/295 Exits 4 & 2 - traces of a mainline stub for what would've been I-895 still exist.  Most of the ghost/unpaved cloverleaf ramps have since become overgrown with vegetation, trees and brush.

Revere: US 1/MA 60 (Cutler Circle) - traces of what would have been I-95 north of this interchange still exist, including unused overpasses.  It is worth noting that the ghost/unpaved roadbed for what would have been I-95 that stretched through Saugus up to the Lynn border (about 2 miles) that sat unused for decades has since been eliminated.

Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mgk920 on June 27, 2012, 11:29:44 AM
A couple more:

In Wisconsin:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=43.400714,-87.925558&spn=0.017929,0.027595&t=k&z=15

The I-43/WI 57 split at Port Washington ('Port Washington Interchange').  The never-built Stadium North freeway was the original planned routing of what became I-43, it would have continued northward from Milwaukee, curved eastward around Saukville and fed into modern-day I-43 here.

Streetview:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=43.40062,-87.919593&spn=0.017929,0.027595&t=k&z=15&layer=c&cbll=43.400476,-87.927723&panoid=BPeg-PUUySPrhaih_cBB_A&cbp=12,343.13,,0,3.16
Note how high that overcrossing bridge is.  The NB Stadium Freeway to NB I-43 through roadway was to pass between the NB WI 57 roadway and the present-day SB I-43 overcrossing.  Graded fill is there for that roadway, too (visible in the aerial).

In Michigan:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=43.597425,-84.140253&spn=0.017995,0.027595&t=k&z=15
(US 10/M-47, Midland, MI)
Where was M-47 planned to continue to northward from here?

Mike
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Beltway on June 27, 2012, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on June 27, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
Surprised that no one has mentioned the ghost ramps for the proposed I-70 and I-83 on I-95 in Baltimore.

I wonder when they are going to 8-lane the I-95 section within the I-83 interchange, to eliminate the lane drops that were legitimate with a completed I-83?

They did this at the I-70 interchange about 12 years ago.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: triplemultiplex on June 27, 2012, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 27, 2012, 11:29:44 AM
https://maps.google.com/?ll=43.400714,-87.925558&spn=0.017929,0.027595&t=k&z=15

The I-43/WI 57 split at Port Washington ('Port Washington Interchange').  The never-built Stadium North freeway was the original planned routing of what became I-43, it would have continued northward from Milwaukee, curved eastward around Saukville and fed into modern-day I-43 here.

Streetview:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=43.40062,-87.919593&spn=0.017929,0.027595&t=k&z=15&layer=c&cbll=43.400476,-87.927723&panoid=BPeg-PUUySPrhaih_cBB_A&cbp=12,343.13,,0,3.16
Note how high that overcrossing bridge is.  The NB Stadium Freeway to NB I-43 through roadway was to pass between the NB WI 57 roadway and the present-day SB I-43 overcrossing.  Graded fill is there for that roadway, too (visible in the aerial).

Now I thought the grading in the median and extra height on SB 43 were for making that interchange full access (directional Y); something that was a leftover from when it was thought I-43 was going to follow a WI 57 alignment to Green Bay and this would be the I-43, US 141 north interchange.  I was not aware there was any preparation for the Stadium North Freeway making it out of Milwaukee.  Although that would explain the apparent curvature to the graded portion of the unbuilt NB entrance ramp, which seems slightly off for just a SB->NB ramp.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: colinstu on June 27, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 25, 2009, 09:13:45 PMInterstate 694 in Chicago?

he's maybe talking about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_94_in_Illinois#History
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alex on June 28, 2012, 05:40:36 PM
Noted a ramp stub along Delaware 1 northbound ahead of the Bay Road (former U.S. 113) underpass. Appears to be slated for a direct ramp from Bay Road south onto DE-1 north.

http://binged.it/OEQ1Ny

Instead of an on-ramp from Bay Road south motorists are directed via a U-turn at Lafferty Lane onto the northbound on-ramp.

(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/de-001_nb_ramp_stub.jpg)

Photo from June 18th.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Jordanah1 on June 28, 2012, 09:53:17 PM
along US41 on the north side of the fox cities, WI, there is ROW preserved for diamond interchanges at CTY A, Meade st, and Rose Hill Dr.
im not quite sure about this, but it looks like there was suposed to be a rest stop or something here on I94. its just south of CTY B in Jackson county WI. im not sure if the map was copied correctly. https://maps.google.com/
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: on_wisconsin on June 28, 2012, 10:24:03 PM
Quote from: Jordanah1 on June 28, 2012, 09:53:17 PMIm not quite sure about this, but it looks like there was suposed to be a rest stop or something here on I94. its just south of CTY B in Jackson county WI. im not sure if the map was copied correctly. https://maps.google.com/
It was a rest stop until the very early 2000's when WisDOT tore down a couple of them along I-94.  Correct Link: http://goo.gl/maps/X6DB   
EDIT, Here is the ghost rest stop for the westbound side: http://goo.gl/maps/CCko
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mgk920 on June 28, 2012, 11:09:05 PM
Quote from: Jordanah1 on June 28, 2012, 09:53:17 PM
along US41 on the north side of the fox cities, WI, there is ROW preserved for diamond interchanges at CTY A, Meade st, and Rose Hill Dr.
im not quite sure about this, but it looks like there was suposed to be a rest stop or something here on I94. its just south of CTY B in Jackson county WI. im not sure if the map was copied correctly. https://maps.google.com/

The one at County 'A' might still be built someday.  WisDOT won't do it, though, until the WI 47/County 'A' split near Black Creek is re-engineered as the STOP sign on County 'A' there would otherwise be overwhelmed by the traffic that it would reroute.  PIMs on that were held about ten years or so ago.

WisDOT reconfigured many major highway rest areas about that time, too.

Mike
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vtk on June 29, 2012, 03:41:14 AM
Someone's already brought up the missing interchange along I-71 in Cincinnati, right?  The shortest-possible ramp stubs are visible for four ramps... and not far from there, plainly visible to NB traffic, is the mouth of a tunnel that I believe was to be part of the city's canceled subway system.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: NE2 on June 29, 2012, 04:25:10 AM
Quote from: vtk on June 29, 2012, 03:41:14 AM
Someone's already brought up the missing interchange along I-71 in Cincinnati, right?  The shortest-possible ramp stubs are visible for four ramps... and not far from there, plainly visible to NB traffic, is the mouth of a tunnel that I believe was to be part of the city's canceled subway system.
This tunnel? http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/cln.htm
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Truvelo on June 29, 2012, 06:13:57 AM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on June 27, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
There's also the Goat Path Expressway northeast of Lancaster, PA, once planned to be a freeway extension of PA 23 to Norristown. It's now an overgrown right-of-way with bridges, but no roadways:

http://goo.gl/maps/nCal (http://goo.gl/maps/nCal)

As the most intensive work is already done why not just lay the pavement?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: NE2 on June 29, 2012, 06:23:16 AM
Quote from: Truvelo on June 29, 2012, 06:13:57 AM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on June 27, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
There's also the Goat Path Expressway northeast of Lancaster, PA, once planned to be a freeway extension of PA 23 to Norristown. It's now an overgrown right-of-way with bridges, but no roadways:

http://goo.gl/maps/nCal (http://goo.gl/maps/nCal)

As the most intensive work is already done why not just lay the pavement?

Because it would be pointless?
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vdeane on June 29, 2012, 11:27:36 AM
I wouldn't say pointless... it may not go where it was planned, but it would at least bypass some residential areas.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Alps on June 29, 2012, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: deanej on June 29, 2012, 11:27:36 AM
I wouldn't say pointless... it may not go where it was planned, but it would at least bypass some residential areas.
It would be nice as a four-lane parkway. I agree, they have a place to put it, just put it there.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: froggie on July 01, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
QuoteAs the most intensive work is already done why not just lay the pavement?

2 reasons. First, unless you're okay with just a stub to PA 772, you'd have to extend the east end to something worthwhile.  That'll require some construction.

Second and moreso, the grading stops about 1/2 mile short of US 30, so you'd still have some grading and a bridge over Milcross Rd to build.

It's a lot more than just "laying the pavement".
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Roadsguy on July 01, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
Quote from: froggie on July 01, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
QuoteAs the most intensive work is already done why not just lay the pavement?

2 reasons. First, unless you're okay with just a stub to PA 772, you'd have to extend the east end to something worthwhile.  That'll require some construction.

Second and moreso, the grading stops about 1/2 mile short of US 30, so you'd still have some grading and a bridge over Milcross Rd to build.

It's a lot more than just "laying the pavement".

And you'd also need a freeway-to-freeway connection, of course.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: mgk920 on July 01, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on July 01, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
Quote from: froggie on July 01, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
QuoteAs the most intensive work is already done why not just lay the pavement?

2 reasons. First, unless you're okay with just a stub to PA 772, you'd have to extend the east end to something worthwhile.  That'll require some construction.

Second and moreso, the grading stops about 1/2 mile short of US 30, so you'd still have some grading and a bridge over Milcross Rd to build.

It's a lot more than just "laying the pavement".

And you'd also need a freeway-to-freeway connection, of course.

IIRC, its design for when it was under construction was to extend off of the current interchange.

Mike
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Roadsguy on July 02, 2012, 10:00:25 AM
Still, a freeway-to-freeway connection would be nice.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vdeane on July 02, 2012, 10:46:14 AM
Big difference between "of course" and "would be nice".
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: BiggieJohn on October 27, 2012, 09:43:36 PM
Austin, TX has a few good examples of their poor urban planning -

this little disaster at 183 and the old airport blvd
https://maps.google.com/?ll=30.249642,-97.691481&spn=0.007377,0.01369&t=h&z=17

zooming in, you can see some of the abandoned bridge work.  The center bridge is only one way today
https://maps.google.com/?ll=30.24546,-97.690977&spn=0.005217,0.006845&t=h&z=18


at I-35 and SH45, you can see the stubs of ramps to connect to I-35 towards the south someday, who knows if it will ever be build
https://maps.google.com/?ll=30.480224,-97.67417&spn=0.005204,0.006845&t=h&z=18

West end of the north portion of the 45 tollway
https://maps.google.com/?ll=30.467215,-97.800368&spn=0.005205,0.006845&t=h&z=18

almost the entire length of Capitol of Texas Highway (TX360) has very wide medians, originally intended for an upper deck to be built, but now that the area is the very affluent west hills, it will probably never happen
https://maps.google.com/?ll=30.295929,-97.827818&spn=0.003687,0.006845&t=h&z=18


unfinished junction of Loop 1 and SH 45, SH45 might someday continue east to meet the other section at I-35, but land rights issues have stopped it so far
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=30.173703,-97.887974&spn=0.005221,0.006845&t=h&z=18

small section of SH45 west that was build, barely used
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=30.185125,-97.905822&spn=0.029529,0.05476&t=h&z=15

large ovebuilt tollway overpass - seems there is a city water reservoir in the way
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=30.459959,-97.700314&spn=0.002603,0.003422&t=h&z=19

not unbuilt, but now unused Merrilltown plaza on loop 1 -
only the outer booths are used since most of the tollways in Austin switched to automated tolling a few years ago
https://maps.google.com/?ll=30.45308,-97.696368&spn=0.002603,0.003422&t=h&z=19
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: vtk on October 27, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: BiggieJohn on October 27, 2012, 09:43:36 PM
who knows if it will ever be build

...

small section of SH45 west that was build, barely used

be built, was built

I don't know where this kind of error came from, but I've seen it in a lot of places.  The past preterite of "build" is "built", just like the ordinary past tense, and I have no idea why anyone thinks otherwise.  Maybe we should just accept it, and amend the dictionaries.  regardless of the heighth of the foilage, the relator couldn't excape the strenth of the nucular blast.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: PurdueBill on October 27, 2012, 11:28:54 PM
The wide bridges and grading for the I-71 ramps to Denison Ave (http://goo.gl/maps/O4ZVd) are remainders of the Parma Freeway which would have gone north from there to the Shoreway.  There are wide spots on the shoulders of I-71 as well.  The unbuilt road would have also gone south to I-480 and beyond.  CSU Library has a neat document (http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/urbanohio&CISOPTR=1401&CISOSHOW=1345)  with the details.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: LA_MetroMan on November 03, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
Quote from: V'Ger on January 24, 2009, 08:58:39 PM
A good place to post evidence of highways that never quite made it.

City of Moorpark, California.  Both the 23 needs extending north to Fillmore and the 118 needs extending west to the coast.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: JREwing78 on November 04, 2012, 06:23:55 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 27, 2012, 11:29:44 AM
In Michigan:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=43.597425,-84.140253&spn=0.017995,0.027595&t=k&z=15
(US 10/M-47, Midland, MI)
Where was M-47 planned to continue to northward from here?

Mike

That's an excellent question, and short of theorizing a connection back to I-75/US-23 north of Bay City, I don't have a good answer for you. This is as close as I've got: http://www.michiganhighways.org/listings/MichHwys40-49.html#M-047
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Michael on November 12, 2012, 06:15:53 PM
I have a 2001-02 edition (the map data is © 2000) AAA map (Map Works with AAA branding) laying around, which shows the proposed path for a southern extension of NY 631/Baldwinsville Bypass.  I was looking around on Google Maps' satellite view of the area, and saw what looked like a graded roadbed with rock lined drainage channels (http://maps.google.com/?ll=43.154401,-76.316373&spn=0.002689,0.005681&t=h&z=18).  I noticed that the sides of the roadbed looked like they were sloped, and thought maybe it was an approach for a bridge over the railroad just to the south.  After looking at Bing's Bird's Eye View (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=r5s3t08n6745&lvl=19&dir=0&sty=b&form=LMLTCC), I'm 95% sure that it is indeed an approach for a bridge.

To see the current end of the bypass, pan to the northeast a little bit.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: CentralCAroadgeek on November 27, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
Here's (http://goo.gl/maps/jY3k0) a stub just south of Gilroy that would've kept 101's wide median in the south Santa Clara Valley.
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Revive 755 on November 27, 2012, 09:50:03 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on October 27, 2012, 11:28:54 PM
The wide bridges and grading for the I-71 ramps to Denison Ave (http://goo.gl/maps/O4ZVd) are remainders of the Parma Freeway which would have gone north from there to the Shoreway.  There are wide spots on the shoulders of I-71 as well.  The unbuilt road would have also gone south to I-480 and beyond.  CSU Library has a neat document (http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/urbanohio&CISOPTR=1401&CISOSHOW=1345)  with the details.

Looks like more of those studies are available online:
http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/results.php?CISOOP1=all&CISOBOX1=Route%20Location%20Study&CISOFIELD1=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOOP2=exact&CISOBOX2=&CISOFIELD2=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOOP3=any&CISOBOX3=&CISOFIELD3=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOOP4=none&CISOBOX4=&CISOFIELD4=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOROOT=all&t=a (http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/results.php?CISOOP1=all&CISOBOX1=Route%20Location%20Study&CISOFIELD1=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOOP2=exact&CISOBOX2=&CISOFIELD2=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOOP3=any&CISOBOX3=&CISOFIELD3=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOOP4=none&CISOBOX4=&CISOFIELD4=CISOSEARCHALL&CISOROOT=all&t=a)

From one of the other studies, it appears that I-480 has a wide median west of OH 14 where the Lee Freeway was supposed to tie in.  It also appears the trumpet interchange just east of OH 14 was to be the terminus of the unbuilt Bedford Freeway.

http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/u?/urbanohio,2109 (http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/u?/urbanohio,2109)

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=5600+Denison+Avenue,+Cleveland,+OH&hl=en&ll=41.424322,-81.57825&spn=0.027191,0.066047&sll=41.456813,-81.728056&sspn=0.006457,0.009645&oq=5600+denis&t=k&hnear=5600+Denison+Ave,+Cleveland,+Ohio+44102&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=5600+Denison+Avenue,+Cleveland,+OH&hl=en&ll=41.424322,-81.57825&spn=0.027191,0.066047&sll=41.456813,-81.728056&sspn=0.006457,0.009645&oq=5600+denis&t=k&hnear=5600+Denison+Ave,+Cleveland,+Ohio+44102&z=15)
Title: Re: Unbuilt Evidence
Post by: Sonic99 on December 06, 2012, 02:45:20 PM
In Phoenix, as you go from the SR51 South to the SR202 East, there is a third bridge pier that seems to suggest that the flyover ramp would have been two lanes instead of the constructed one lane bridge. I wish they HAD done the two lane flyover, as during evening rush hour, this ramp is ALWAYS at a dead stop and heavily congested (although this could very well be the busiest interchange in the entire Phoenix Metro area, so it sees a TON of traffic).

https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.463672,-112.038683&spn=0.001223,0.001206&t=h&z=20 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.463672,-112.038683&spn=0.001223,0.001206&t=h&z=20)

EDITED TO ADD ANOTHER INSTEAD OF DOUBLE POSTING:

Just a couple miles south of the massive I-10/SR51/SR202 interchange (believe it or not, called the MINI-Stack in Phoenix. The I-17/I-10 full interchange just west of Downtown Phoenix is called "The Stack"), the Buckeye Road overpass has curved ends to the southern end, suggesting a possible cloverleaf configuration that would have given full access to Buckeye Road.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.436502,-112.037599&spn=0.001223,0.001206&t=h&z=20 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.436502,-112.037599&spn=0.001223,0.001206&t=h&z=20)

Courtesy of Arizonaroads.com, here is a good photo of the ends of the bridge, also where the reference to the potential cloverleaf ramps comes from.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farizonaroads.com%2Fpics%2Fi10buckeye.jpg&hash=b91a77a40b37a2953fbd06610b949581e0cf1f50)