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Title: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 05, 2015, 05:29:14 PM
CR 616 is having a 1932 warren pony truss replaced with a new through truss in Pemberton NJ.

http://www.dvrpc.org/data/rfps/Burlington%20RFQ%20.pdf
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: Big John on July 05, 2015, 06:23:12 PM
Reading the report, part of the reason of replacing the bridge is that it is functionally obsolete.  Then they are replacing the bridge with something geometrically identical.  Wouldn't the new bridge then be functionally obsolete from day 1?
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 05, 2015, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 05, 2015, 06:23:12 PM
Reading the report, part of the reason of replacing the bridge is that it is functionally obsolete.  Then they are replacing the bridge with something geometrically identical.  Wouldn't the new bridge then be functionally obsolete from day 1?

No, the new bridge will have a higher weight limit, and be slightly wider. The current bridge is one of those that has to have a practical on site repair team there on a week to week basis at times.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 05, 2015, 07:22:25 PM
Panoramio Photo

(https://static.panoramio.com.storage.googleapis.com/photos/1920x1280/48855627.jpg)
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 07:24:30 PM
http://uglybridges.com/1364474
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: NE2 on July 10, 2015, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 05, 2015, 05:29:14 PM
a new through truss
So which is it?
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 07:50:24 PM
Quote from: NE2 on July 10, 2015, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 05, 2015, 05:29:14 PM
a new through truss
So which is it?

Hanover Street Bridge, in Pemberton NJ, it will be a new steel through truss with a concrete/asphalt deck. Pony Truss
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: NE2 on July 10, 2015, 07:52:49 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 07:50:24 PM
through truss

Pony Truss
WHICH ONE
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 09:22:01 PM
Quote from: NE2 on July 10, 2015, 07:52:49 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 07:50:24 PM
through truss

Pony Truss
WHICH ONE

A Pony Through Truss
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: NE2 on July 10, 2015, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 09:22:01 PM
A Pony Through Truss
A Smart Steve Gum Post
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 10:03:19 PM
A Pony Through Truss

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTO6Dh59.jpg&hash=1583fbe5a069d9723d2279aa91c248920c138dd0)
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on September 22, 2019, 11:47:57 PM
Project started. Dead post ressurected. Dec 2019 completion. will share photos once i take some.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: NE2 on September 23, 2019, 10:39:39 AM
Jump on it.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on September 23, 2019, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: NE2 on September 23, 2019, 10:39:39 AM
Jump on it.

I drive a truck, i will be home next month for a few days.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: NE2 on September 23, 2019, 05:25:39 PM
https://youtu.be/NkXY5TmiDBg
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: kphoger on September 23, 2019, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 09:22:01 PM

Quote from: NE2 on July 10, 2015, 07:52:49 PM

Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 07:50:24 PM
through truss

Pony Truss

WHICH ONE

A Pony Through Truss

The terms are not contradictory.  A bridge is a through truss if the road deck lies in the middle or bottom of the truss (the former sometimes referred to as a half-through truss) rather than at the top of the truss.  A through truss is a pony truss if the sides of the truss are not connected at the top.  While it may be unnecessary to refer to a pony truss as a through truss (what other kind of pony truss bridge can there be?), it's not a contradiction in terms.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on September 24, 2019, 09:33:48 AM
Quote from: kphoger on September 23, 2019, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 09:22:01 PM

Quote from: NE2 on July 10, 2015, 07:52:49 PM

Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 10, 2015, 07:50:24 PM
through truss

Pony Truss

WHICH ONE

A Pony Through Truss

The terms are not contradictory.  A bridge is a through truss if the road deck lies in the middle or bottom of the truss (the former sometimes referred to as a half-through truss) rather than at the top of the truss.  A through truss is a pony truss if the sides of the truss are not connected at the top.  While it may be unnecessary to refer to a pony truss as a through truss (what other kind of pony truss bridge can there be?), it's not a contradiction in terms.

A thorough dissertation on the through pony truss discussion of 2015 where we discussed a Pony through truss thoroughly. This should get us through the pony through truss discussion this year.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on October 19, 2019, 10:31:47 AM
https://imgur.com/a/KWWwj4a

Some photos, too big to directly share.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on November 28, 2019, 06:21:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KLyh3Uk.jpg)
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: DeaconG on July 16, 2020, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on November 28, 2019, 06:21:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KLyh3Uk.jpg)
A thing of beauty.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: Mr. Matté on July 17, 2020, 07:31:57 AM
Quote from: DeaconG on July 16, 2020, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on November 28, 2019, 06:21:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KLyh3Uk.jpg)
A thing of beauty.

Even better for when I go biking down that way (like this past Saturday), no more steel grate.
Title: Re: Burlington County NJ to build a new Pony Truss
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 26, 2020, 12:41:22 AM
Fully open, nice smooth asphalt.