At least as recently as the 1980s, and probably the 1990s, I recall Connecticut having some verbose ground-mounted large guide signs for park-and-ride lots, with yellow text on a blue background. I skimmed the MUTCDs of that era but didn't see this use defined. Did it exist elsewhere?
Vicroads uses yellow-on-blue signage for its tollways around Melbourne, Victoria.
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Recently Queensland has been using yellow-on-blue signage on its tollways, starting with the Legacy Way project which opened last month.
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^ interesting on that third sign how even the arrow is split between the color schemes.
So no standard involving this color scheme from the US, I guess. Can anybody confirm the existence of what I was describing in Connecticut? Anyone got a photo?
Quote from: Pete from Boston on July 20, 2015, 07:36:25 AM
So no standard involving this color scheme from the US, I guess. Can anybody confirm the existence of what I was describing in Connecticut? Anyone got a photo?
I remember those from Connecticut.
New Hampshire uses them for especially important destinations (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.934618,-70.862129,3a,75y,27.26h,86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spkBzKWxTCGaduN08ETNS-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
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Of course! How could I forget?
Now you have me wondering if the new Hooksett Liquor Area with Food signs are white or yellow on blue, even though I've been by them several times.
Quote from: Eth on July 20, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
New Hampshire uses them for especially important destinations (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.934618,-70.862129,3a,75y,27.26h,86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spkBzKWxTCGaduN08ETNS-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Beyond your obvious sarcasm, I don't understand how a liquor store could be that important to the passing motorist. Granted, Washington has privatized liquor sales, so to see a liquor store signed at all is strange.
New Hampshire has a state hard liquor monopoly, negligible if any tax on liquor, and a much more populous state with higher taxes just to its south (many of whose residents vacation in New Hampshire). These rest-area liquor stores are big business.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on July 21, 2015, 06:54:55 AM
New Hampshire has a state hard liquor monopoly, negligible if any tax on liquor, and a much more populous state with higher taxes just to its south (many of whose residents vacation in New Hampshire). These rest-area liquor stores are big business.
Quoted for truth.
I know people in the much more populous state to the south, and in the smaller state south of that, who would make trips to NH solely to buy liquor before big parties. I gave my groomsmen good whiskey as a gift and bought it at a NH state liquor store on the way back from Maine.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on July 21, 2015, 06:54:55 AMNew Hampshire has a state hard liquor monopoly, negligible if any tax on liquor
If the state has a monopoly on hard liquor, doesn't need to tax it, as all profits are
de facto tax
QuoteBeyond your obvious sarcasm, I don't understand how a liquor store could be that important to the passing motorist. Granted, Washington has privatized liquor sales, so to see a liquor store signed at all is strange.
Hey don't forget they also sell lottery tickets :-D
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.92007,-70.86965,3a,37.5y,20h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ1ueDYyH15D7TV8ND_O33g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: english si on July 21, 2015, 09:00:59 AM
If the state has a monopoly on hard liquor, doesn't need to tax it, as all profits are de facto tax
Correct, there is no Excise Tax on wine and liquor in NH state liquor stores since they are the only establishments in the state allowed to sell wine and liquor. I think there may be a small sales tax, I'm trying to find my receipt from last week to see if there is any. Even if there is a small tax, the state buys a ton of liquor wholesale which keeps the price down and beat most other states in the region. It is a huge cash cow for NH and essentially an easy way to get money from non-residents, most of the vehicles I noticed in the parking lot are from out of state. I myself dropped over $150 last week when I was coming back from our vacation.
Quote from: doogie1303 on July 23, 2015, 08:21:47 PM
QuoteBeyond your obvious sarcasm, I don't understand how a liquor store could be that important to the passing motorist. Granted, Washington has privatized liquor sales, so to see a liquor store signed at all is strange.
Hey don't forget they also sell lottery tickets :-D
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.92007,-70.86965,3a,37.5y,20h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ1ueDYyH15D7TV8ND_O33g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: english si on July 21, 2015, 09:00:59 AM
If the state has a monopoly on hard liquor, doesn't need to tax it, as all profits are de facto tax
Correct, there is no Excise Tax on wine and liquor in NH state liquor stores since they are the only establishments in the state allowed to sell wine and liquor. I think there may be a small sales tax, I'm trying to find my receipt from last week to see if there is any. Even if there is a small tax, the state buys a ton of liquor wholesale which keeps the price down and beat most other states in the region. It is a huge cash cow for NH and essentially an easy way to get money from non-residents, most of the vehicles I noticed in the parking lot are from out of state. I myself dropped over $150 last week when I was coming back from our vacation.
I just found my receipt, no tax on the purchase. So, they don't need to tax it since they are already making profit on the sale.
When I thought of yellow text on blue guide signs, the first thing that I thought of (maybe because I was just driving there yesterday) was "Welcome" on the Indiana Toll Road parking lot signs that say who should park where.
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Quote from: Pete from Boston on July 20, 2015, 07:36:25 AM
So no standard involving this color scheme from the US, I guess. Can anybody confirm the existence of what I was describing in Connecticut? Anyone got a photo?
P&R ride lot off I-95 Exit 58 in Guilford, CT....
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.295803,-72.687143,3a,18.1y,29.96h,87.61t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sFsXovv7QS26oebW5fBmz0w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DFsXovv7QS26oebW5fBmz0w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D66.026917%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
This sign's been there a while. I'm sure there's a WILLIAM O'NEIL, GOVERNOR under that blue plate. I remember seeing this sign back when the guide signs on I-95 read "GUILFORD-CONN 77" white on blue, and the onramps read "NEW YORK AND WEST" and "RHODE ISLAND AND EAST".
There's still some old standalone small park & ride signs - yellow and blue, around, which show a P in a circle for the symbol. Long before the present small green square with cars.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on July 20, 2015, 10:07:06 PM
Of course! How could I forget?
Now you have me wondering if the new Hooksett Liquor Area with Food signs are white or yellow on blue, even though I've been by them several times.
The new signs I've seen for the Hooksett service area are similar to service plaza signs - white on blue, with 6 spots for "logos", among them, Irving (gas), Common Man (restaurant), Deli, Bakery, etc. The heading on the sign calls it "HOOKSETT WELCOME CENTER" with a couple lines at the bottom advertising the liquor store.
What a bummer. I always loved the combo signs, white text for REST AREA, yellow for NH LIQUOR STORE, tab added for SWEEPS TICKETS....ah, those were the days.
2011 street view has a newer version of such signage, with REST AREA added as an afterthought to liquor and lottery. (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.09489,-71.475646,3a,69.7y,6.91h,77.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxLT4eVgjW7xDWhEfEkVqAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) Sadly 2012 shows the relatively new sign (with yellow on blue) gone....it's been longer ago than that since I was by there so I don't know if it ever came back. Bummer if not.