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Title: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: peterj920 on August 11, 2015, 11:13:09 PM
There are some bypass routes that are used heavily but are not state highways.  Around Ripon, CTH A, CTH K, and CTH KK is a heavily traveled bypass route for Wis 23.
Highland Dr in Oconto Falls is a shorter to go through the city than Wis 22 is. 
In Kiel, CTH AA connects with Wis 67 and they combine to form a bypass for Wis 32/57.   

Are there any other unofficial bypasses that should have the main route rerouted on?
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: empirestate on August 11, 2015, 11:36:28 PM
For whatever reason, the first thing that comes to my mind is Schoenbar Road in Ketchikan, AK.


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Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: JREwing78 on August 11, 2015, 11:48:26 PM
- Territorial Rd and Bullard Rd around the NE side of Evansville, WI, connecting at each end to US 14.
- Hwy 59 replacing CTH N between Edgerton and Whitewater (or, a Hwy 20 extension to Edgerton via US 12 and CTH N)
- CTH A between Hwy 151 NE of Beaver Dam and Hwy 26 south of Juneau
- CTH MM between Brooklyn and Oregon
- CTH M between Verona and Oregon
- CTH N between Stoughton and Cottage Grove
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: dfwmapper on August 12, 2015, 12:09:53 AM
Homerville, GA, has a county road (named Bypass Road) that serves as a bypass of the town for US 84.

Loop 1910 in Andrews, TX, is a city street that forms a beltway that effectively serves as a bypass for TX 115, TX 176, and US 385.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 12, 2015, 11:13:54 AM
-From WI-69, taking Dane County PB from just south of Verona to just west of Belleville to avoid the latter.  (They were actually contemplating relocating WI-69 to this route at one point.)
-As JR mentioned above, taking Rock County N instead of WI-59 from Edgerton to Whitewater to avoid Milton.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: thefraze_1020 on August 12, 2015, 12:22:11 PM
Cook Rd between I-5 and WA-20 in Sedro-Woolley sees as much traffic as WA-20, because it is the preferred route to Sedro-Woolley from southbound I-5.

Besides, "Sedro-Woolley" is signed from I-5 at the Cook Rd exit anyway, so it might as well be a state highway.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: doorknob60 on August 12, 2015, 12:44:32 PM
Lassen County Route A3 around Susanville, CA: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3529976,-120.4517611,12z
CalTrans signs point people heading to Alturas and Lakeview down this road, so in a way it's an "official" bypass, but it's not a state highway. It saves about 14 miles over following US-395 the whole way.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: intelati49 on August 12, 2015, 01:23:13 PM
W 135th street (Santa Fe) (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.885674,-94.7013068,12.75z) in Kansas City, KS. Connects to MO 150 and serves as an adhoc alternative to (crush hour loaded) I-435.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Mrt90 on August 12, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on August 12, 2015, 11:13:54 AM
-From WI-69, taking Dane County PB from just south of Verona to just west of Belleville to avoid the latter.  (They were actually contemplating relocating WI-69 to this route at one point.)
-As JR mentioned above, taking Rock County N instead of WI-59 from Edgerton to Whitewater to avoid Milton.
So many people take Rock County Hwy N to cut across from US 12 to I-39/I-90 on the way to Madison/Dells/etc that it's not only a bypass of Milton but also of Fort Atkinson and Cambridge.  The thing I sometimes forget is that it's not technically County N until you hit the Rock County Line, I think in Whitewater (Walworth County) it's actually called Walworth Ave, but there are signs now on US12 directing you to County N.

Someone above had a good idea to extend Hwy 20 west from the point it ends at the intersection with US12 and Hwy67. They could continue Hwy20 to run concurrently with US12, and then turn west replacing Rock County Hwy N, and then run it concurrently with Hwy59 to I-39/I-90 at least.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: hobsini2 on August 12, 2015, 05:25:08 PM
Hwy F between both ends of Wis 35 comes to mind to bypass River Falls and Hwy E between both ends of Wis 35 to bypass Prescott.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 12, 2015, 05:28:07 PM
Quote from: Mrt90 on August 12, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on August 12, 2015, 11:13:54 AM
-From WI-69, taking Dane County PB from just south of Verona to just west of Belleville to avoid the latter.  (They were actually contemplating relocating WI-69 to this route at one point.)
-As JR mentioned above, taking Rock County N instead of WI-59 from Edgerton to Whitewater to avoid Milton.
So many people take Rock County Hwy N to cut across from US 12 to I-39/I-90 on the way to Madison/Dells/etc that it's not only a bypass of Milton but also of Fort Atkinson and Cambridge.  The thing I sometimes forget is that it's not technically County N until you hit the Rock County Line, I think in Whitewater (Walworth County) it's actually called Walworth Ave, but there are signs now on US12 directing you to County N.


You are within about 1/4 mile from the Rock County line at that intersection.  You are actually on an unmarked Walworth County S at this point.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: national highway 1 on August 13, 2015, 12:49:08 AM
Sanderson Ave in San Jacinto, CA. Currently CA 79 follows a more circuitous route along Ramona Xpwy, State St and West Florida Ave.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: andy3175 on August 13, 2015, 12:56:22 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on August 13, 2015, 12:49:08 AM
Sanderson Ave in San Jacinto, CA. Currently CA 79 follows a more circuitous route along Ramona Xpwy, State St and West Florida Ave.

Excellent example. SR 79 also has a difficult time taking the most direct route from San Jacinto south to Warner Springs ... one must take SR 79 through Temecula and onto I-15 briefly rather than taking the very old alignment of SR 79 that is now County R-3 Sage Road.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: vtk on August 13, 2015, 10:41:55 AM
CR 900N / Lafayette Center Rd between Roanoke, IN and I-69 should really be part of US 24 bypassing Fort Wayne to the south. Or so I've heard.

A string of county roads from Adrian, MI to Dundee should probably be a state route, but I don't think that could really be considered a bypass of anything.

OH 231 traffic can take a township road whose number I forget to shorten the trip slightly and bypass a hamlet called Wyandot.  Combined with US 23 and US 30, this makes an effective OH 4 bypass of Bucyrus when they shut down Sandusky Ave for the Bratwurst Festival (starting today) or unplanned incidents. The official detour is always asinine.

I use Ervin Rd and US 224 to cut between US 127 and US 30, skipping most of Van Wert, OH when I travel between Columbus and Fort Wayne.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: hbelkins on August 13, 2015, 11:39:55 AM
Man o'War Boulevard in Lexington.

There are also a couple of backroads that can be used to bypass much of the commercial strip of Pigeon Forge and Sevierville. I think at least one has been adopted as a Tennessee state highway.

There's also a local road in (mumble), Tenn., that serves as a bypass for US 31E.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Roadsguy on August 23, 2015, 08:44:40 AM
A short bypass road for PA 100 around Eagle near the Turnpike was built a few years ago (on what was I believe ROW for the old planned expressway), but the 100 designation still goes through town despite the bypass being the better route.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Zeffy on August 23, 2015, 08:57:08 AM
CR 601 in Somerset County and Great Road in Mercer County (one continuous road). There is a surprising amount of traffic that use this 2-lane road to bypass some of the more congested parts of US 206 in Montgomery and Princeton.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Avalanchez71 on August 23, 2015, 12:05:33 PM
Tom J. Hitch Pkwy which is used as a bypass around Columbia, TN by the locals that need to get from the North end to the South end.  The road is a county road that dips in and out of the city limits, however, there is little development along the the road.  The right of away that was acquired appears to easily able accommodation to a four lane divided highway.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: TEG24601 on August 24, 2015, 11:17:41 AM
Mercer St. in Seattle - Was originally going to be a freeway, instead became 1-way couplet, now a boulevard, and so heavily traveled it should be a State Route.  Bypasses downtown choke points, to access SR-99, when working properly.


Natio Parkway/Front Ave in Portland - adjacent to the former Harbor Dr./Fwy., this boulevard often becomes a bypass of I-5 when traffic backs up from I-84, and I-405 is jammed for one reason or another.  Formerly US/OR-99W, and should be again, if for no other reason than the sheer volume of traffic.


A minor local entry -
Ault Field Road and Heller Road around Oak Harbor, WA - a very common bypass of an otherwise choked small city.  Takes longer than if you could drive the speed limit through the city, but you never can.  Should really be a bypass route of SR 20.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Rothman on August 24, 2015, 11:45:07 AM
This has just been on my mind since the thread came to my attention:

In Hadley/Amherst, MA, a lot of people use Rocky Hill Road and Maple Street to bypass MA 9 to get to North Amherst, Leverett and other points north and northeast of downtown Amherst and the commercial strips in Hadley.

That said, I don't know if that route should be made a bona fide state highway.  I suppose they could be an extension of MA 63 back to MA 47 (thus completing a type of loop from Montague down to Hadley), but it's most likely not necessary.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: JCinSummerfield on August 24, 2015, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: vtk on August 13, 2015, 10:41:55 AM
A string of county roads from Adrian, MI to Dundee should probably be a state route, but I don't think that could really be considered a bypass of anything.

If they extended M-34 east to US-23 (which is a natural extension), then the problem is solved, as Dundee is 4 miles north on US-23.  The mayor of our fine city (Petersburg) once inquired with the state about extending M-34, and they said if they did that, they would build a bypass around the towns of Deerfield & Petersburg, to make it more truck friendly.  This isn't on the state of Michigan's radar at all.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: mgk920 on August 24, 2015, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on August 11, 2015, 11:48:26 PM
- Territorial Rd and Bullard Rd around the NE side of Evansville, WI, connecting at each end to US 14.
- Hwy 59 replacing CTH N between Edgerton and Whitewater (or, a Hwy 20 extension to Edgerton via US 12 and CTH N)
- CTH A between Hwy 151 NE of Beaver Dam and Hwy 26 south of Juneau
- CTH MM between Brooklyn and Oregon
- CTH M between Verona and Oregon
- CTH N between Stoughton and Cottage Grove

IMHO, County 'A' (south of US 151) is likely to become a marked reroute of WI 26, once the upgrades to the south are complete.

Also, I can easily see Winnebago County 'N' and its eastward township road extension (Fisk Ave) between the I-41/WI 26 interchange in Oshkosh, WI and US 45 southeast of Oshkosh being upgraded to become US 45 to get US 45 off of Oshkosh city streets.  County 'I' (Oregon St and Jackson Dr, includes part of current US 45) north of County 'N' can become a southward extension of WI 76, too.

This looks to me like it would make a majorly useful 'natural' southern bypass of Oshkosh and southside access between Oshkosh and I-41.

Mike
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: mwb1848 on August 25, 2015, 01:15:21 PM
"Truck Bypass Road" southwest of Silver City, NM, allows trucks to bypass downtown: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Truck+Bypass+Rd,+Silver+City,+NM+88061/@32.7688061,-108.2780964,14.75z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x86d8c7104e04f4d1:0x4e42a78cc2cbd05

There doesn't appear to be any state highway designation. However, trailblazers exist at each end pointing traffic to US 180 or NM 90.

There's a similar situation northeast of Carlsbad.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/N+Loop+Rd,+Carlsbad,+NM+88220/@32.4684069,-104.2472782,14.96z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x86e37745bd3e8d91:0x40be3dbc1e7b5994

North Loop Road is also known as WIPP Relief Route, meaning it allows highly toxic things to bypass downtown on the way to WIPP -- the U.S. Department of Energy's Waste Isolation Pilot Plant
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: PurdueBill on August 25, 2015, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: vtk on August 13, 2015, 10:41:55 AM
CR 900N / Lafayette Center Rd between Roanoke, IN and I-69 should really be part of US 24 bypassing Fort Wayne to the south. Or so I've heard.

24 turning onto 900N and continuing into Allen County on Lafayette Center Rd and then straight onto I-469 is by far a much more sensible routing for US 24 thru traffic than either the current or previous route.  Those in the know go that way whenever possible. 
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on August 25, 2015, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: national highway 1 on August 13, 2015, 12:49:08 AM
Sanderson Ave in San Jacinto, CA. Currently CA 79 follows a more circuitous route along Ramona Xpwy, State St and West Florida Ave.
That portion of CA-79 through San Jacinto has actually been relinquished by the state to the city. I know because I tried following it early this year, and the signage that was supposed to be maintained by the city has been removed.

In western Colorado, U.S. 50 has city-constructed bypasses through three cities. In Montrose, San Juan Avenue was traded to the state for Main Street through downtown a few years ago. But, Grand Junction has constructed Riverside Parkway, and Delta has constructed Confluence Blvd., both of which bypass business districts, and should carry the U.S. 50 mainline.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: getemngo on August 25, 2015, 10:19:32 PM
I can think of two in Michigan.

In Traverse City, South Airport Rd and Three Mile Rd serve as a US 31 bypass, and South Airport Rd and Garfield Rd serve as an M-37 bypass.

In the Marquette area, County Road 480 and Cherry Creek Rd from downtown Negaunee to Harvey serve as a popular bypass for US 41/M-28. I think there have been past proposals to move one of the two trunklines onto this route.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Bruce on August 25, 2015, 10:22:47 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on August 24, 2015, 11:17:41 AM
Mercer St. in Seattle - Was originally going to be a freeway, instead became 1-way couplet, now a boulevard, and so heavily traveled it should be a State Route.  Bypasses downtown choke points, to access SR-99, when working properly.

If Mercer Street's recent project was under WSDOT's total control, it would've been massively overbudget and delayed...not to mention being even worse for pedestrians, knowing their track record.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: kphoger on September 28, 2015, 07:26:14 PM
Roark Valley Road to Shepherd of the Hills Expressway, as a very useful bypass of Branson's strip (MO). Could be numbered MO-276 or perhaps a lettered secondary route.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: roadman65 on September 28, 2015, 07:31:31 PM
Jack Martin Blvd. in Brick, NJ should be one.  It is already a defacto bypass for Route 88 there, why not make it official.

Then there is NJ 347 under maintenence of Cumberland County, NJ.

In DeLand, FL, although already a state highway, FL 15A should be US 17 & 92 mainline instead of going through Downtown DeLand.  A state highway bypass that should be a US route in this case.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: ftballfan on November 15, 2015, 08:21:22 PM
Boon Rd in Cadillac

Alba Hwy from Alba to M-32 west of Gaylord

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.3740655,-86.161696/44.5995266,-85.655969/@44.4609711,-85.8751968,10.5z?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.2507236,-86.3197546/43.9554503,-86.3394902/@44.2398484,-86.3269592,14.46z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m10!3m4!1m2!1d-86.3230836!2d44.2494686!3s0x881c2946b4876ddd:0xea5489d663b5ee30!3m4!1m2!1d-86.324384!2d44.2345889!3s0x881c2924e55ea0fb:0x72bd4f52331138ac!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Bitmapped on November 17, 2015, 12:59:15 AM
Miller Road serve as a continuation of the Lebanon, OH bypass. It would simplify the Lebanon area routings a lot if SR 48 was routed onto the rest of the Lebanon bypass and then Miller Road back to SR 48. Right now, the part of the bypass between SR 123 and US 42 is signed as "To SR 48" and "To US 42."

https://goo.gl/maps/RcRxDofQ8JD2
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: bulldog1979 on November 17, 2015, 02:23:32 AM
Quote from: getemngo on August 25, 2015, 10:19:32 PM
In the Marquette area, County Road 480 and Cherry Creek Rd from downtown Negaunee to Harvey serve as a popular bypass for US 41/M-28. I think there have been past proposals to move one of the two trunklines onto this route.

The Marquette County Road Commission proposed turning CR 480 over to MDOT back in 2005. The state is willing to do such a thing as long as it forms part of a continuous routing of another highway designation. The popular expectation was to reroute M-28 south near Teal Lake and around to connect to the end of Rail Street in downtown Negaunee along a new roadway. Once it met Rail Street, it would be a straight shot over to CR 480. The eastern end would either use Cherry Creek Road (CR 551) back to M-28, or run all the way to US 41 at Beaver Grove along the rest of CR 480.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Katavia on December 11, 2015, 08:59:39 AM
Poplar Tent Road from NC 73 to US 29-601. But the RenFest.  :pan:
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: cl94 on December 11, 2015, 09:38:55 PM
Sand Creek Road in Albany. It's the shortcut to everywhere  :spin: . Kidding, kidding.

-Van Dam Street in Saratoga Springs. Bypass of NY 29 for traffic coming from US 9 / NY 9N / I-87, as well as a connection to NY 9N.
-Round Lake/Ashdown Roads in Ballston Lake, NY and Blue Barns Rd south of Ashdown Rd. Bypass of Albany County for traffic between I-87 and Schenectady/west.
-Erie CRs 57 and 276 (Central Ave/Harris Hill Rd). Bypass of NY 78. LOS E or worse common weekdays.
-Erie CRs 21 and 338 (Losson Rd/William St). Bypass of US 20 with an AADT well over 10,000. LOS E or worse common.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Revive 755 on December 11, 2015, 10:22:45 PM
* For Lincoln, Nebraska: Saltillo Road between US 77 and 84th Street and 120th Street, and 120th Street between Saltillo Road and Nebraska 2 (at least until the South Bypass Freeway is built).

* For Hannibal, Missouri:  Paris Gravel Road between Route MM and US 61.  I am not sure about the heavily traveled part, but it makes a nice way to bypass most of the stoplights on US 61 when used with Route MM and US 24.

* For DeKalb and Sycamore, IL:  Peace Road between IL 23 north of Sycamore and Gurler Road, then west on Gurler Road to IL 23, perhaps as a locally maintained Bypass IL 23.

* For numerous towns along IL 31 south of Rakow Road:  A bypass using Rakow, Randall, and Orchard Roads.  Have to wonder sometimes why those roads weren't made into IL 31 with the existing route turned back.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: dgolub on December 12, 2015, 09:45:48 AM
Lawrence Hill Road bypasses NY 25A in Cold Spring Harbor, and it's more direct.  My understanding is that NY 25A did once follow it, but they rerouted it through the main part of town to reduce traffic on a road where people live.  Maybe Alternate NY 25A?
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: Rothman on December 14, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
Quote from: cl94 on December 11, 2015, 09:38:55 PM
Sand Creek Road in Albany. It's the shortcut to everywhere  :spin: . Kidding, kidding.

:pan: :pan: :pan: :pan: :pan: :pan: :pan:
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: bing101 on December 14, 2015, 10:32:01 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_Road_(California)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_Parkway_(California)



I'm Shocked that Vasco Road, and Richmond Parkway are not officially designated at state highways or County routes but they are major limited access roads in Contra, Costa County.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_American_Freeway
Its  listed as secondary road 1007


Also Summerlin Parkway Im surprised that this freeway is a city owned freeway and not owned by Nevada DOT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerlin_Parkway

Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: roadfro on December 16, 2015, 01:18:30 AM
Quote from: bing101 on December 14, 2015, 10:32:01 AM
Also Summerlin Parkway Im surprised that this freeway is a city owned freeway and not owned by Nevada DOT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerlin_Parkway

If I had my way, NDOT would take over Summerlin Pkwy from the City of Las Vegas–an ownership swap of some current state highways that are arterial roads could be mutually beneficial to both parties' interests. One drawback here is that Summerlin Pkwy has a lot of landscaping in the right of way, more so than most other NDOT highways, so maybe NDOT isn't too keen on that.

NDOT has been working on clarifying and streamlining policies that on state highway relinquishments and accepting local roads into the state system. This swap would make sense.
Title: Re: Heavily traveled Unofficial Bypasses that should be state highways
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 16, 2015, 02:14:24 AM
I don't know how heavily it's used, but a combination of city and county streets and roads forms an officially-posted bypass around Stratford, Ontario for routes 7 and 8 truck traffic.