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Title: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: Guysdrive780 on August 20, 2015, 05:52:19 PM
The Interstate Ultimate Project is a real project going on right now in Toll Road Loving Florida. The project calls for a complete redo of Interstate 4 through Orlando, Florida. The design is to improve traffic interchanges and adding 4 tolled express lanes.

More info

This is another Public/Privite Parnership. Its not clear who the Private entities are but here is why I got.

This is the Private Team involved in the project.
Skanska
Granite
Lane
HDR
Jacobs
ICA
John Laing

This form is made to talk about the project's progress.
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: Brian556 on August 20, 2015, 08:51:17 PM
I already made a thread for this.
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: The Ghostbuster on August 21, 2015, 04:52:52 PM
What is the likelihood of this actually happening? It seems like a massive upgrade.
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: Guysdrive780 on August 21, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 21, 2015, 04:52:52 PM
What is the likelihood of this actually happening? It seems like a massive upgrade.
Its going on right now
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: jwolfer on August 22, 2015, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Guysdrive780 on August 21, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 21, 2015, 04:52:52 PM
What is the likelihood of this actually happening? It seems like a massive upgrade.
Its going on right now
That is part of the reason Sunrail was started last year to help with i4 problems for the next 7 years while the road is completely reconsructed
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: jwolfer on August 22, 2015, 10:44:33 AM
Orlando is a perfect example of the changes in demographics that have gone one since interstates were planned. 1950 Orlando was a medium sized, regional, and very Deep South city along the lines of Columbus, GA. Important for cattle and citrus. It was the 4the city of Florida behind Miami, Tampa and Jacksonville  Now it's the center of a 2.3 million person metro. I-4 was build to connect Tampa to I-95 more than anything else.

The leadership of Orlando lobbied to have the Florida turnpike turn inland instead of running from Miami to Jacksonville along the coast ( like i95 now). They build the Beeline( now beachline) Expressway to connect to Cape Canaveral so they could capitalize on the space program, military and defense contractors.  Then in the 1960s Walt Disney flew of the the intersection of i4 and the Florida turnpike and he like the highway connections, that changes central Florida forever. Disney world is 30 miles away from Orlando and it was nothing but swamps and grazing land. The transition of Orlando in my life is amazing.

Its real interesting to read about how Disney set up shell corporations to buy land so people would not know it was Disney. Also the Reedy Creek Improvement District and its unique set up. The names of the shell corporations are on the business names of the second floor "companies" on main Street USA in the Magic Kingdom.
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: NE2 on August 22, 2015, 11:13:46 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on August 22, 2015, 10:44:33 AM
Its real interesting to read about how Disney set up shell corporations to buy land so people would not know it was Disney.
Ayefour Corporation :D
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: roadman65 on September 01, 2015, 03:34:29 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on August 22, 2015, 10:44:33 AM
Orlando is a perfect example of the changes in demographics that have gone one since interstates were planned. 1950 Orlando was a medium sized, regional, and very Deep South city along the lines of Columbus, GA. Important for cattle and citrus. It was the 4the city of Florida behind Miami, Tampa and Jacksonville  Now it's the center of a 2.3 million person metro. I-4 was build to connect Tampa to I-95 more than anything else.

The leadership of Orlando lobbied to have the Florida turnpike turn inland instead of running from Miami to Jacksonville along the coast ( like i95 now). They build the Beeline( now beachline) Expressway to connect to Cape Canaveral so they could capitalize on the space program, military and defense contractors.  Then in the 1960s Walt Disney flew of the the intersection of i4 and the Florida turnpike and he like the highway connections, that changes central Florida forever. Disney world is 30 miles away from Orlando and it was nothing but swamps and grazing land. The transition of Orlando in my life is amazing.

Its real interesting to read about how Disney set up shell corporations to buy land so people would not know it was Disney. Also the Reedy Creek Improvement District and its unique set up. The names of the shell corporations are on the business names of the second floor "companies" on main Street USA in the Magic Kingdom.

How about Clermont and all of US 27.  From a few miles south of FL 50 to Minneola the once 65 mph rural highway has transformed practically overnight into a suburban arterial.  With all the rural land between Winter Garden and Clermont filled in with houses, strip malls, and fast food joints Clermont is now part of Metro Orlando.
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: kkt on September 01, 2015, 06:16:47 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on August 22, 2015, 10:44:33 AM
Orlando is a perfect example of the changes in demographics that have gone one since interstates were planned. 1950 Orlando was a medium sized, regional, and very Deep South city along the lines of Columbus, GA. Important for cattle and citrus. It was the 4the city of Florida behind Miami, Tampa and Jacksonville  Now it's the center of a 2.3 million person metro. I-4 was build to connect Tampa to I-95 more than anything else.

The leadership of Orlando lobbied to have the Florida turnpike turn inland instead of running from Miami to Jacksonville along the coast ( like i95 now). They build the Beeline( now beachline) Expressway to connect to Cape Canaveral so they could capitalize on the space program, military and defense contractors.  Then in the 1960s Walt Disney flew of the the intersection of i4 and the Florida turnpike and he like the highway connections, that changes central Florida forever. Disney world is 30 miles away from Orlando and it was nothing but swamps and grazing land. The transition of Orlando in my life is amazing.

Its real interesting to read about how Disney set up shell corporations to buy land so people would not know it was Disney. Also the Reedy Creek Improvement District and its unique set up. The names of the shell corporations are on the business names of the second floor "companies" on main Street USA in the Magic Kingdom.

As you look at why the changes, don't forget widespread air conditioning.
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: davewiecking on September 01, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on August 20, 2015, 08:51:17 PM
I already made a thread for this.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14498.0
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: Brian556 on September 01, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from roadman65:
QuoteHow about Clermont and all of US 27.  From a few miles south of FL 50 to Minneola the once 65 mph rural highway has transformed practically overnight into a suburban arterial.  With all the rural land between Winter Garden and Clermont filled in with houses, strip malls, and fast food joints Clermont is now part of Metro Orlando

I remember that well. The area around the Citrus Tower was very rural

Quote from kkt:
QuoteAs you look at why the changes, don't forget widespread air conditioning

Good point. People often forget that AC has not been around all that long. It is the most important invention behind electricity.
Title: Re: Interstate 4 Ultimate Project
Post by: jwolfer on September 01, 2015, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: kkt on September 01, 2015, 06:16:47 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on August 22, 2015, 10:44:33 AM
Orlando is a perfect example of the changes in demographics that have gone one since interstates were planned. 1950 Orlando was a medium sized, regional, and very Deep South city along the lines of Columbus, GA. Important for cattle and citrus. It was the 4the city of Florida behind Miami, Tampa and Jacksonville  Now it's the center of a 2.3 million person metro. I-4 was build to connect Tampa to I-95 more than anything else.

The leadership of Orlando lobbied to have the Florida turnpike turn inland instead of running from Miami to Jacksonville along the coast ( like i95 now). They build the Beeline( now beachline) Expressway to connect to Cape Canaveral so they could capitalize on the space program, military and defense contractors.  Then in the 1960s Walt Disney flew of the the intersection of i4 and the Florida turnpike and he like the highway connections, that changes central Florida forever. Disney world is 30 miles away from Orlando and it was nothing but swamps and grazing land. The transition of Orlando in my life is amazing.

Its real interesting to read about how Disney set up shell corporations to buy land so people would not know it was Disney. Also the Reedy Creek Improvement District and its unique set up. The names of the shell corporations are on the business names of the second floor "companies" on main Street USA in the Magic Kingdom.

As you look at why the changes, don't forget widespread air conditioning.
So true for FL and really the whole Sunbelt.. How many would want to spend summer in Phoenix, Jacksonville or Atlanta without a/c