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Title: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: TravelingBethelite on August 23, 2015, 01:31:48 PM
Title says it all. I know I-684 spends a couple miles orr less in Connecticut.

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Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: Gulol on August 23, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
While not the shortest, I-15 is a touch over 29 miles through Arizona.  Beating that would be I-76 in Nebraska which is less than 3 miles.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: noelbotevera on August 23, 2015, 01:48:17 PM
This subject has been mentioned numerous times

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14158.50

Like that thread.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: national highway 1 on August 23, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
US 160 spends just under a mile in New Mexico, by clipping the NW corner of the state.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: The Nature Boy on August 23, 2015, 09:00:19 PM
The Southern Tier Expressway in New York spends a few miles in Pennsylvania. I think that there's only one exit and New York maintains the highway despite it being in PA.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: MikeTheActuary on August 23, 2015, 09:21:49 PM
Isn't I-95/I-495 in DC for just a few feet?
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 23, 2015, 09:23:21 PM
MN 23 clips about half a mile of Wisconsin southwest of Duluth, although there are no signs letting you know you're in Wisconsin and there is no access to any other part of the state from MN 23.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: The Nature Boy on August 23, 2015, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on August 23, 2015, 09:21:49 PM
Isn't I-95/I-495 in DC for just a few feet?

The Woodrow Wilson Bridge clips a SMALL corner of DC. If we allow DC in then it would probably win this thread.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: Jim on August 23, 2015, 09:25:09 PM
Here's the list based on current TravelMapping data of all US and Interstates that have a segment in a state of a half mile or less:


+------------+--------+--------+--------+--------+------------------------+---------------+-----------+
| systemName | region | route  | banner | abbrev | city                   | root          | mileage   |
+------------+--------+--------+--------+--------+------------------------+---------------+-----------+
| usai       | DC     | I-95   |        |        |                        | dc.i095       | 0.0679346 |
| usai       | DC     | I-495  |        |        |                        | dc.i495       | 0.0679346 |
| usaus      | NY     | US220  |        |        |                        | ny.us220      | 0.0697314 |
| usaus      | ID     | US195  |        |        |                        | id.us195      |  0.144528 |
| usaus      | KY     | US52   |        |        | Goodman, WV            | ky.us052      |  0.182123 |
| usaus      | KY     | US119  |        | Goo    | Goodman, WV            | ky.us119goo   |  0.182123 |
| usai       | PA     | I-86   |        | SWa    | South Waverly, PA      | pa.i086swa    |  0.235524 |
| usaus      | IA     | US77   |        |        |                        | ia.us077      |  0.254329 |
| usai       | IN     | I-164  |        |        |                        | in.i164       |  0.264134 |
| usai       | IA     | I-129  |        |        |                        | ia.i129       |  0.280296 |
| usaus      | PA     | US206  |        |        |                        | pa.us206      |  0.408579 |
| usaus      | TN     | US45   |        | SFu    | South Fulton, TN       | tn.us045sfu   |  0.466482 |
+------------+--------+--------+--------+--------+------------------------+---------------+-----------+
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: Zeffy on August 23, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
The Garden State Parkway technically spends 2 miles in New York before terminating at I-87. I-76 dies in New Jersey only 3 miles after entering it.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: Jim on August 23, 2015, 09:31:57 PM
If we expand to the entire TravelMapping database (active systems only), we have quite a few under a quarter mile.  However, many of these are just short roads - not roads that spend a short time in one state or region.

+------------+----------+-------------+--------+--------+----------------------------------+---------------------+-----------+
| systemName | region   | route       | banner | abbrev | city                             | root                | mileage   |
+------------+----------+-------------+--------+--------+----------------------------------+---------------------+-----------+
| usany      | NY       | NY120A      |        | Rye    | Rye Lake, NY                     | ny.ny120arye        | 0.0430845 |
| usausb     | KY       | US119       | Spr    | Wil    | Williamson, WV                   | ky.us119sprwil      | 0.0548651 |
| usaor      | OR       | OR204       | Trk    | Elg    | Elgin                            | or.or204trkelg      |  0.062602 |
| usai       | DC       | I-95        |        |        |                                  | dc.i095             | 0.0679346 |
| usai       | DC       | I-495       |        |        |                                  | dc.i495             | 0.0679346 |
| usaus      | NY       | US220       |        |        |                                  | ny.us220            | 0.0697314 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A3007       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3007           | 0.0756764 |
| usamd      | MD       | MD874       |        |        |                                  | md.md874            | 0.0766446 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A3009       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3009           |  0.103872 |
| usaid      | ID       | ID128       | Spr    | Lew    | Lewiston                         | id.id128sprlew      |  0.105328 |
| mexd       | MEX-EMEX | MEX15D      |        | Mac    | Macho de Agua                    | mexemex.mex015dmac  |  0.111776 |
| usausb     | OH       | US36        | Con    | Mil    | Millwood, OH                     | oh.us036conmil      |  0.116305 |
| usari      | RI       | RI114A      |        | SEP    | (South) East Providence          | ri.ri114asep        |  0.118152 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A2204       |        |        |                                  | eng.a2204           |   0.12372 |
| usaok      | OK       | OK77D       |        | Ced    | Cedar Village                    | ok.ok077dced        |  0.123977 |
| usamn      | MN       | MN323       |        |        |                                  | mn.mn323            |  0.136354 |
| usame      | NH       | ME110       |        |        |                                  | nh.me110            |   0.14044 |
| gbna       | WLS      | A488        |        | Bis    | Bishops Castle                   | wls.a488bis         |  0.142217 |
| usaus      | ID       | US195       |        |        |                                  | id.us195            |  0.144528 |
| usausb     | ID       | US195       | Spr    | Lew    | Lewiston, ID                     | id.us195sprlew      |   0.14701 |
| usanv      | NV       | NV822       |        |        |                                  | nv.nv822            |  0.151222 |
| usaib      | CO       | I-70        | BS     | Sil    | Silt, CO                         | co.i070bssil        |  0.161211 |
| mexd       | MEX-HGO  | MEXM40D     |        |        | Calpulalpan                      | mexhgo.mexm040d     |  0.161649 |
| mexd       | MEX-TLAX | MEX140D     |        | Max    | Máximo Serdán                  | mextlax.mex140dmax  |  0.169316 |
| usausb     | LA       | US80        | Trk    | Gib    | Gibsland, LA                     | la.us080trkgib      |  0.170626 |
| usany      | NY       | NY114       |        | Gre    | Greenport, NY                    | ny.ny114gre         |  0.172406 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A3201       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3201           |  0.179983 |
| usaus      | KY       | US52        |        |        | Goodman, WV                      | ky.us052            |  0.182123 |
| usaus      | KY       | US119       |        | Goo    | Goodman, WV                      | ky.us119goo         |  0.182123 |
| usaoh      | OH       | OH365       |        |        |                                  | oh.oh365            |  0.182261 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A3008       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3008           |  0.184505 |
| usaks      | KS       | KS137       |        |        |                                  | ks.ks137            |   0.18456 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A4208       |        |        |                                  | eng.a4208           |  0.185234 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A3604       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3604           |  0.187883 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A4029       |        |        |                                  | eng.a4029           |  0.195986 |
| usawv      | WV       | WV102       |        | Poc    | Pocahontas, VA                   | wv.wv102poc         |  0.199017 |
| usamd      | MD       | MD553       |        |        |                                  | md.md553            |  0.199191 |
| eure       | RUS-MOW  | E101        |        |        |                                  | rusmow.e101         |  0.202384 |
| usamd      | MD       | MD911       |        |        |                                  | md.md911            |  0.207088 |
| usausb     | SC       | US701       | Bus    | Tab    | Tabor City, NC                   | sc.us701bustab      |  0.211016 |
| espa       | ESP      | PA32        |        |        |                                  | esp.pa032           |  0.212652 |
| usamd      | MD       | MD896       |        |        |                                  | md.md896            |  0.212674 |
| mexd       | MEX-PUE  | MEX117D     |        |        |                                  | mexpue.mex117d      |  0.216765 |
| gbnam      | ENG      | A74M        |        |        |                                  | eng.a074m           |  0.219303 |
| usaks      | KS       | KS247       |        |        |                                  | ks.ks247            |  0.224866 |
| usact      | CT       | CT78        |        |        |                                  | ct.ct078            |  0.226275 |
| usai       | PA       | I-86        |        | SWa    | South Waverly, PA                | pa.i086swa          |  0.235524 |
| eure       | RUS-LEN  | E20         |        | Kra    | Krasnoye Selo                    | ruslen.e20kra       |   0.23646 |
| usamd      | MD       | MD674       |        |        |                                  | md.md674            |   0.23839 |
| usausb     | AR       | US67        | Bus    | Dat    | Datto, AR                        | ar.us067busdat      |  0.240638 |
| usanc      | NC       | NC306       |        | Bay    | Bayview                          | nc.nc306bay         |  0.241263 |
| usamd      | MD       | MD368       |        |        |                                  | md.md368            |  0.241798 |
| usamd      | MD       | MD284       |        |        |                                  | md.md284            |  0.245181 |
| gbna       | ENG      | A4156       |        |        |                                  | eng.a4156           |  0.248643 |
+------------+----------+-------------+--------+--------+----------------------------------+---------------------+-----------+
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: national highway 1 on August 23, 2015, 09:41:45 PM
I-24 dips into Georgia for 4 miles, junctioning I-59 on its way
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: ModernDayWarrior on August 23, 2015, 09:53:37 PM
Interstate 72 runs for just over two miles in Missouri.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: Rothman on August 23, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
Although MA 102 doesn't technically enter NY, it might as well have:

https://goo.gl/maps/L6A6N
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: froggie on August 23, 2015, 10:46:45 PM
QuoteIsn't I-95/I-495 in DC for just a few feet?

Anywhere from 400-600ft, depending on whether you're on the outside lane of the Outer Loop, on the bike/ped path, or somewhere in between.

QuoteThe Woodrow Wilson Bridge clips a SMALL corner of DC. If we allow DC in then it would probably win this thread.

For Interstate routes, yes.  For state highways, I believe the past winner from past threads was VT 26 at a whopping 53 feet.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on August 23, 2015, 11:18:41 PM
U.S. 56-64-412 (a NE-SW trending route) has the northwest corner of Texas in its centerline, so only the northeast-bound lane enters Texas. A vehicle traveling in the middle of that lane would be in Texas for, what, 20 feet? It's obviously not considered a Texas route. New Mexico probably didn't even have to get an agreement with Texas for maintenance.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: JCinSummerfield on August 24, 2015, 01:53:15 PM
US-8 in Michigan for 2.322 miles.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: empirestate on August 24, 2015, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: Jim on August 23, 2015, 09:25:09 PM

| usai       | PA     | I-86   |        | SWa    | South Waverly, PA      | pa.i086swa    |  0.235524 |


What are the supposed limits of I-86 in PA? As far as I know, no extension has yet been enacted that would put I-86 into the South Waverly dip.

Quote from: Zeffy on August 23, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
The Garden State Parkway technically spends 2 miles in New York before terminating at I-87.

How so? At the state line, the GSP becomes a segment of the NYS Thruway called the Garden State Parkway Connection. What's the technicality that makes this part of the GSP proper?
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: Jim on August 24, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: empirestate on August 24, 2015, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: Jim on August 23, 2015, 09:25:09 PM

| usai       | PA     | I-86   |        | SWa    | South Waverly, PA      | pa.i086swa    |  0.235524 |


What are the supposed limits of I-86 in PA? As far as I know, no extension has yet been enacted that would put I-86 into the South Waverly dip.

If what we have in Travel Mapping isn't accurate for the current extent of I-86, I'll gladly add it to the queue of things needing fixing.  I honestly don't remember why or when we last updated I-86 vs. Future I-86 designations in the then-CHM data.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: TheCatalyst31 on August 24, 2015, 08:18:14 PM
If we count connected state highways with the same number, the Maryland portion of PA-MD-DE 896 is right at their tripoint and is only about .2 miles long.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: vdeane on August 24, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
The update of I-86 in CHM was after the Elmira/Chemung at-grade removal project finished and the FHWA allowed NY to sign I-86 throughout the rest of Region 6.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: empirestate on August 24, 2015, 10:37:37 PM
Quote from: Jim on August 24, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: empirestate on August 24, 2015, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: Jim on August 23, 2015, 09:25:09 PM

| usai       | PA     | I-86   |        | SWa    | South Waverly, PA      | pa.i086swa    |  0.235524 |


What are the supposed limits of I-86 in PA? As far as I know, no extension has yet been enacted that would put I-86 into the South Waverly dip.

If what we have in Travel Mapping isn't accurate for the current extent of I-86, I'll gladly add it to the queue of things needing fixing.  I honestly don't remember why or when we last updated I-86 vs. Future I-86 designations in the then-CHM data.

Well, it might be accurate and I just haven't found out about it yet. I check once in a while, but not exhaustively, so if an extension has been made official I'd be happy to learn about it.

Quote from: vdeane on August 24, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
The update of I-86 in CHM was after the Elmira/Chemung at-grade removal project finished and the FHWA allowed NY to sign I-86 throughout the rest of Region 6.

Right, that's sort of how I recall my last inquiry on the subject ending: they got the go-ahead to extend the route, and there's nothing really in the way of doing so, but they just haven't done it yet. Does FHWA's permission amount to an official extension on its own, or does NYSDOT have to take some further step (even if it's just actually putting up signs)?
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: mgk920 on August 25, 2015, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 23, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
The Garden State Parkway technically spends 2 miles in New York before terminating at I-87. I-76 dies in New Jersey only 3 miles after entering it.

I-76 does in much less distance after it enters Nebraska, too.

Mike
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: english si on August 25, 2015, 02:42:43 PM
Looking at a few of these I know about off the top of my head
| systemName | region   | route       | banner | abbrev | city                             | root                | mileage   |
+------------+----------+-------------+--------+--------+----------------------------------+---------------------+-----------+
| gbna       | ENG      | A3007       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3007           | 0.0756764 | Short route
| gbna       | ENG      | A3009       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3009           |  0.103872 | Short route
| gbna       | ENG      | A2204       |        |        |                                  | eng.a2204           |   0.12372 | Short route
| gbna       | WLS      | A488        |        | Bis    | Bishops Castle                   | wls.a488bis         |  0.142217 | tiny dip into Wales (or rather, the border has a bump that eats it). Spends more time in the country later.
| gbna       | ENG      | A3201       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3201           |  0.179983 | Short route
| gbna       | ENG      | A3008       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3008           |  0.184505 | Short route
| gbna       | ENG      | A4208       |        |        |                                  | eng.a4208           |  0.185234 | Short route
| gbna       | ENG      | A3604       |        |        |                                  | eng.a3604           |  0.187883 | Short route
| gbna       | ENG      | A4029       |        |        |                                  | eng.a4029           |  0.195986 | Short route
| eure       | RUS-MOW  | E101        |        |        |                                  | rusmow.e101         |  0.202384 | Part of an interchange strays across a boundary
| gbnam      | ENG      | A74M        |        |        |                                  | eng.a074m           |  0.219303 | Genuine route entering for a tiny bit, though the full length is going to be twice this to account for slip roads to merge in.
| eure       | RUS-LEN  | E20         |        | Kra    | Krasnoye Selo                    | ruslen.e20kra       |   0.23646 | Part of an interchange strays across a boundary
| gbna       | ENG      | A4156       |        |        |                                  | eng.a4156           |  0.248643 | Short route

I deliberately ignored the N1's straying into Northern Ireland when making Irish files for CHM/Travel Mapping. That is a triangle across the road - westernmost lane of 4 gets about 140ft, easternmost lane gets about 3ft, if that.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: peterj920 on August 25, 2015, 04:20:42 PM
In Osceola, WI, Wis 243 only travels 0.3 miles from Wis 35 to the St. Croix River Bridge that crosses into Minnesota.  It turns into MN 243 and only travels a mile after that. 
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: cpzilliacus on August 25, 2015, 09:12:44 PM
Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on August 24, 2015, 08:18:14 PM
If we count connected state highways with the same number, the Maryland portion of PA-MD-DE 896 is right at their tripoint and is only about .2 miles long.

Similarly, the eastern part of Virginia's U.S. 340 (Jefferson Pike) crosses the Commonwealth's territory (over the north edge of Loudoun County) for about 0.57 miles between Maryland and West Virginia. 
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: vdeane on August 25, 2015, 09:22:39 PM
Quote from: empirestate on August 24, 2015, 10:37:37 PM
Quote from: Jim on August 24, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: empirestate on August 24, 2015, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: Jim on August 23, 2015, 09:25:09 PM

| usai       | PA     | I-86   |        | SWa    | South Waverly, PA      | pa.i086swa    |  0.235524 |


What are the supposed limits of I-86 in PA? As far as I know, no extension has yet been enacted that would put I-86 into the South Waverly dip.

If what we have in Travel Mapping isn't accurate for the current extent of I-86, I'll gladly add it to the queue of things needing fixing.  I honestly don't remember why or when we last updated I-86 vs. Future I-86 designations in the then-CHM data.

Well, it might be accurate and I just haven't found out about it yet. I check once in a while, but not exhaustively, so if an extension has been made official I'd be happy to learn about it.

Quote from: vdeane on August 24, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
The update of I-86 in CHM was after the Elmira/Chemung at-grade removal project finished and the FHWA allowed NY to sign I-86 throughout the rest of Region 6.

Right, that's sort of how I recall my last inquiry on the subject ending: they got the go-ahead to extend the route, and there's nothing really in the way of doing so, but they just haven't done it yet. Does FHWA's permission amount to an official extension on its own, or does NYSDOT have to take some further step (even if it's just actually putting up signs)?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fus220%2F100_8981-s.JPG&hash=0c4dfeaae26dcfc011ebac57834f1f718eb8b660)
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: empirestate on August 25, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 25, 2015, 09:22:39 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fus220%2F100_8981-s.JPG&hash=0c4dfeaae26dcfc011ebac57834f1f718eb8b660)

Aha! So, does this mean it's been extended to US 220? Or is it signed east from there as well? Or, does the designation still in fact end at the Chemung/Tioga line, and the assembly pictured here has a theoretical "TO" banner that was deemed superfluous?
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: vdeane on August 26, 2015, 06:45:40 PM
Technically, both of those signs should have a TO banner.  I believe the FHWA approval says "Tioga line", without specifying whether it's the line with Chemung County or the line with Pennsylvania, neither of which strikes me as a logical terminus.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: discochris on September 29, 2015, 12:24:05 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 23, 2015, 09:23:21 PM
MN 23 clips about half a mile of Wisconsin southwest of Duluth, although there are no signs letting you know you're in Wisconsin and there is no access to any other part of the state from MN 23.

That was the first thing that came to mind for me. I find that so weird.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: OracleUsr on September 29, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
Doesn't US 58 enter TN for a very short distance near the Cumberland Gap Tunnel on US 25E?  Or is it all in VA?
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: hbelkins on September 29, 2015, 05:13:35 PM
It used to be all in Virginia until the Cumberland Gap tunnel was built. Now it does extend into Tennessee.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: mgk920 on September 29, 2015, 06:05:49 PM
Quote from: empirestate on August 25, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 25, 2015, 09:22:39 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fus220%2F100_8981-s.JPG&hash=0c4dfeaae26dcfc011ebac57834f1f718eb8b660)

Aha! So, does this mean it's been extended to US 220? Or is it signed east from there as well? Or, does the designation still in fact end at the Chemung/Tioga line, and the assembly pictured here has a theoretical "TO" banner that was deemed superfluous?

Isn't I-86 in Pennsylvania for a fairly substantial distance?

Mike
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: vdeane on September 29, 2015, 07:27:17 PM
Not on that section.  This is the interchange where NY 17 dips into PA.  The main segment in PA is 200 miles to the west.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: peterj920 on September 29, 2015, 09:17:27 PM
There is about a 3 mile stretch of US 191 that dips into Wyoming from Montana with no mention of crossing the state line in Yellowstone National Park.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: cl94 on September 30, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: empirestate on August 25, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 25, 2015, 09:22:39 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fus220%2F100_8981-s.JPG&hash=0c4dfeaae26dcfc011ebac57834f1f718eb8b660)

Aha! So, does this mean it's been extended to US 220? Or is it signed east from there as well? Or, does the designation still in fact end at the Chemung/Tioga line, and the assembly pictured here has a theoretical "TO" banner that was deemed superfluous?

Quote from: vdeane on August 26, 2015, 06:45:40 PM
Technically, both of those signs should have a TO banner.  I believe the FHWA approval says "Tioga line", without specifying whether it's the line with Chemung County or the line with Pennsylvania, neither of which strikes me as a logical terminus.

It's debatable. Nobody really knows where it ends. For all intents and purposes, it ends at US 220, but there is no "END" marker. It practically is at the Tioga County line, anyway.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: noelbotevera on September 30, 2015, 03:33:34 PM
It ends at the Tioga-Chemung county line.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: empirestate on September 30, 2015, 03:53:45 PM

Quote from: noelbotevera on September 30, 2015, 03:33:34 PM
It ends at the Tioga-Bradford county line. So I-86 ends when NY 17 EB re-enters New York/WB exits New York.

Where did you find that out? I've been eager to know the exact current terminus, but an official source seems to be elusive.


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Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: noelbotevera on September 30, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
Quote from: empirestate on September 30, 2015, 03:53:45 PM

Quote from: noelbotevera on September 30, 2015, 03:33:34 PM
It ends at the Tioga-Bradford county line. So I-86 ends when NY 17 EB re-enters New York/WB exits New York.

Where did you find that out? I've been eager to know the exact current terminus, but an official source seems to be elusive.


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https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9998557,-76.5317624,3a,75y,122.54h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suXwuPaJvFwDHEzisJVFx4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This sign is the end of I-86. Google says that this is still I-86, but once you go past the sign, it switches to NY 17.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/economic_development/studies/i86trip2005.cfm

The long arrow where 185 miles is points to is the Chemung/Tioga county line. The FHWA says it ends there...

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/economic_development/studies/new_york_86/i86ny00.cfm

And some pages say this too. It's a mistake on my part - it looks like it ends at the Chemung/Tioga county line.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: empirestate on September 30, 2015, 06:40:34 PM

Quote from: noelbotevera on September 30, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
Quote from: empirestate on September 30, 2015, 03:53:45 PM

Quote from: noelbotevera on September 30, 2015, 03:33:34 PM
It ends at the Tioga-Bradford county line. So I-86 ends when NY 17 EB re-enters New York/WB exits New York.

Where did you find that out? I've been eager to know the exact current terminus, but an official source seems to be elusive.


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And some pages say this too. It's a mistake on my part - it looks like it ends at the Chemung/Tioga county line.

Oh, OK. That's what I'd heard most recently, too. I know we have anecdotal evidence (the photo above) that it extends to US 220, but to my knowledge no official action has yet precipitated that.

In fact, recent accounts seem to suggest that extension of I-86 as a designation has fallen off of anyone's agenda.


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Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: noelbotevera on September 30, 2015, 07:49:52 PM
Back on topic, the SB lanes of PA 163 enter Maryland for about 40 or so feet.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/PA-163,+Antrim,+PA/@39.7218498,-77.7290926,17.93z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c98df56e95c6b7:0x8d60de4189640487
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: cappicard on October 05, 2015, 12:32:20 PM
K-247 just north of Ellis, Kansas (near Hays) is only a few hundred yards long. Goes from 3rd St to the southern end of the interchange with I-70.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.949793,-99.560133/38.9465053,-99.5601791/@38.9490671,-99.5624428,17z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2?hl=en
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: cl94 on October 05, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
NY 103. 1/2 mile. A large amount of unsigned routes in New York are longer.
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: empirestate on October 05, 2015, 02:35:31 PM

Quote from: cl94 on October 05, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
NY 103. 1/2 mile. A large amount of unsigned routes in New York are longer.

And at least a few signed highways are shorter...


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Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: vdeane on October 05, 2015, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 05, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
NY 103. 1/2 mile. A large amount of unsigned routes in New York are longer.
NY 437: 0.3-0.4 miles
NY 419: 1/4 mile

There are also some reference routes that are only a couple hundred feet long (due to how wyes are inventoried)
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: mwb1848 on October 05, 2015, 10:55:33 PM
This threat has to acknowledge I-24 in Georgia... which doesn't even acknowledge it's in Georgia!
https://goo.gl/maps/5G4ZUPiyCZo
Title: Re: What's the shortest distance a highway/interstate spends in a state?
Post by: cl94 on October 05, 2015, 11:22:05 PM
What are you talking about (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.983438,-85.4670856,3a,47.2y,168.93h,87.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1M2TZM7Vtzof8yzeczV5Sw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)? If you mean the exit numbers, it's like NY 17's jaunt into Pennsylvania. Makes more sense to continue the sequence than have three sets of numbers within a couple miles?