The business routings in Wisconsin are very inconsistent. The only 2 business routes that are state highways are Bus 51 in Wausau, and Bus 51 in Plover and Whiting. The state highway designation used to go through Stevens Point but not terminates at the south city limits of Stevens Point. Meanwhile, in other cities across the state, business routes were removed in the early 2000s in Eau Claire, (bus 12) Green Bay, Appleton, Oshkosh, Janesville, Plymouth, Tomahawk, and Superior and there may be more that I'm not aware of. In smaller towns such as Neilsville and Green Lake, business routes remain but are very poorly signed. Does anyone have any idea why business routes were removed in larger cities for the most part but remained in Stevens Point and Wausau? Bus 53/29 in the Eau Claire area are up probably because the bypasses are new, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are removed in the future. Bus 42 remains in Manitowoc, but it runs over state maintained highways, those are the only exceptions to the trends.
Bus 42/54 in Sturgeon Bay remains well signed as is the new Bus 26 through Milton.
Quote from: GeekJedi on August 28, 2015, 07:39:49 AM
Bus 42/54 in Sturgeon Bay remains well signed\
You mean 42/57?
I think they are disappearing because they are largely meaningless. Fort Atkinson's Business WI-26 is a great example. If you exit on both the north and south ends onto this highway, it dumps you off into a business wasteland. However the US-12 exit (with no business designation) gets you near the fast food restaurants, gas and the nicest hotel in town.
I think the blue guide signs are a better indicator of services than the business designation is, and most travelers have come to realize this.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on August 28, 2015, 09:09:28 AM
I think they are disappearing because they are largely meaningless. Fort Atkinson's Business WI-26 is a great example. If you exit on both the north and south ends onto this highway, it dumps you off into a business wasteland. However the US-12 exit (with no business designation) gets you near the fast food restaurants, gas and the nicest hotel in town.
I think the blue guide signs are a better indicator of services than the business designation is, and most travelers have come to realize this.
Sun Prairie's Business US 151 is similar, at least on the north end of it. A good 1/3rd of the route is residential. Other than the downtown (which could be served with alternate directional signage), most of the businesses are clustered at the interchanges at either end of Business 151. Ones that aren't are restaurants or gas stations served by the blue signs. When the city reconstructed a chunk of the route a couple years ago, they never bothered to put the business route signs back in. I can't say I blame them, since one would expect to find at least some businesses on Main Street. WisDOT did reinstall them when they rebuilt the Main St interchange.
New business routes are signed well, but will the signs fade and fail to be maintained over time in those cities? Seems like they do in most other cities that have local business routes. In Tomahawk, the signs weren't touched since the bypass was built and were in awful shape when that route was removed. Any idea why the Bus 51's in the Stevens Point and Wausau areas continue to be state highways? The route in the city of Stevens Point is now in local control but there had been no attempt to turn any of the route in Wausau to local control. Bus 51 in Wausau is now the only business route in Wisconsin that is a state highway from end to end.
My *assumption* always was that WIDOT agreed to do this when the US-51 highway was routed through the area. Perhaps the locals weren't happy and this was a compromise?
The Bus US-51 section of Stevens Point was turned back to local control right around when WI-66 was extended over the former US-10 and then down to Wisconsin Rapids over a former county highway. A trade off?
WIDOT used to maintain a Business WI-13 through Marshfield and a Business US-41 through De Pere, but I believe both of those have been turned over too.
WI-16 business used to be very well signed in Watertown until recently. Now you can only find signs for it when you are entering town on WI-19. Coming from the other direction is not signed probably due in part to the new WI-26 bypass they put in along the western side of town. The WI-26 business route through Watertown is well signed however.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on August 28, 2015, 01:52:20 PM
My *assumption* always was that WIDOT agreed to do this when the US-51 highway was routed through the area. Perhaps the locals weren't happy and this was a compromise?
The Bus US-51 section of Stevens Point was turned back to local control right around when WI-66 was extended over the former US-10 and then down to Wisconsin Rapids over a former county highway. A trade off?
WIDOT used to maintain a Business WI-13 through Marshfield and a Business US-41 through De Pere, but I believe both of those have been turned over too.
I don't think there was a compromise with Wis 66 being extended over County P because the City of Stevens Point is responsible for maintenance of BUS 51 in Stevens Point, not Portage County. The stretch south of Stevens Point through Plover and Whiting probably would have been turned over to county control if the state highway designation was removed. Maybe Portage County objected and Bus 51 remained a state highway, but it's a mystery that I'd like to have solved since it's odd that the state highway designation dead ends right at the Stevens Point city limits. Bus 13 in Marshfield lasted until it was reconstructed, then it was turned over to local control and the business route removed. The ramps between I-41 and Ashland Ave in De Pere are still under state control, but it was still called Bus 41 on maps probably because they didn't have a name for the short spur. All of the business route signs in Green Bay, Appleton, Plymouth, and other cities were removed at the same time around 2004.
Quote from: jwags on August 28, 2015, 02:00:18 PM
WI-16 business used to be very well signed in Watertown until recently. Now you can only find signs for it when you are entering town on WI-19. Coming from the other direction is not signed probably due in part to the new WI-26 bypass they put in along the western side of town. The WI-26 business route through Watertown is well signed however.
Bus 16 was probably well signed when it was first designated just like Bus 26 is right now. What I'm noticing is that after the business routes are initially signed, most local communities do a terrible job of maintaining those signs. Meanwhile, the state continues to sign the routes at intersections with state highways. In Neillsville, there is a Bus 10 sign at the west intersection with US 10, along with a reassurance sign. After that reassurance sign, there isn't another Bus 10 sign that appears. In Green Lake, BUS 23 is very well signed at the junction of Wis 23. But in Green Lake itself, there is only one, very old and faded Bus 23 sign in the entire community. The route takes various turns around the city, and the turn from Mill St to Lawson Dr is the only one that is signed. Why should WISDOT continue to sign business routes along state highways when the communities fail to maintain signs on the business route? Green Lake, Neillsville, and other communities should follow the lead of Tomahawk and remove their business routes if they do not want to continue to maintain the signs along the route.
There is an interesting example of an ambiguous business route in the unincorporated Taylor County community of Westboro. WI 13 was moved onto a new alignment out of town some 50-60 years ago and the name of the street that is the former route of WI 13 is "Business Highway 13". This seems to create confusion for cartographers sometimes because every so often in appears labeled with a shield. In fact, it looks like Google is doing that at this time.
Another example of a logical business route that has been ghosted is Bus US 8 in Rhinelander which was fully signed for decades after US 8 was built to bypass the city. But when WI 17 was moved onto it's current alignment east of town in 2004, Bus 8 was removed. The Lincoln Street portion of the old business route still contains the bulk of the city's commercial strip.
WisDOT does seem to be moving away from business routes with new projects. The rate of new additions has not matched the rate of new community bypasses where the old route would make a serviceable business route.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on August 30, 2015, 05:13:01 PM
There is an interesting example of an ambiguous business route in the unincorporated Taylor County community of Westboro. WI 13 was moved onto a new alignment out of town some 50-60 years ago and the name of the street that is the former route of WI 13 is "Business Highway 13". This seems to create confusion for cartographers sometimes because every so often in appears labeled with a shield. In fact, it looks like Google is doing that at this time.
Another example of a logical business route that has been ghosted is Bus US 8 in Rhinelander which was fully signed for decades after US 8 was built to bypass the city. But when WI 17 was moved onto it's current alignment east of town in 2004, Bus 8 was removed. The Lincoln Street portion of the old business route still contains the bulk of the city's commercial strip.
WisDOT does seem to be moving away from business routes with new projects. The rate of new additions has not matched the rate of new community bypasses where the old route would make a serviceable business route.
There have been quite a few new business routes added when a bypass is built. US 41 has 2 new business routes in Oconto and Peshtigo, US 141 has a business route in Pound/Coleman, and the routes along Wis 29 are still well marked, and the new business routes along Wis 26 are freshly signed. WISDOT rebuilds the roads in these communities, installs the business route signs, and then turns the roads back to local control. The problem is that once the roads are under local control, the local municipalities poorly maintain the signs along the route, and it looks like many of the older business routes are being removed for that reason.
If I remember correctly, WisDOT will NOT designate a route as a business route unless the city/town asks for it, and agrees to maintain the route and the signs. If they do not maintain the signs/route, then WisDOT will remove the designation.
Quote from: GeekJedi on August 30, 2015, 08:37:39 PM
If I remember correctly, WisDOT will NOT designate a route as a business route unless the city/town asks for it, and agrees to maintain the route and the signs. If they do not maintain the signs/route, then WisDOT will remove the designation.
When Wis 23 was reconstructed around Green Lake, WISDOT put the business signs up along Wis 23 despite the fact that the business route is the poorest signed business route in the state.
I do not mind business routes. It gives you a chance to travel along the highway's old alignment (to some degree).
Quote from: peterj920 on August 31, 2015, 12:15:46 AM
When Wis 23 was reconstructed around Green Lake, WISDOT put the business signs up along Wis 23 despite the fact that the business route is the poorest signed business route in the state.
They'll put them up the first time - it's up to the local government after that.
I'm assuming that business routes are not really a highway maintained by the state, but maintained by the town it goes through. Can a town sign anything as a business route they want or are there standards a business route has to meet?
Quote from: GeekJedi on August 31, 2015, 05:37:37 PM
Quote from: peterj920 on August 31, 2015, 12:15:46 AM
When Wis 23 was reconstructed around Green Lake, WISDOT put the business signs up along Wis 23 despite the fact that the business route is the poorest signed business route in the state.
They'll put them up the first time - it's up to the local government after that.
Along the state highways where the business routes begin and end, WISDOT puts the signs up. Along Wis 23, WISDOT put up the "Jct Bus 23" signs after the road was reconstructed. They probably should not have done that since the route isn't signed good at all by Green Lake, and they clearly did not inspect signs along the route.
Quote from: US 41 on August 31, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
I'm assuming that business routes are not really a highway maintained by the state, but maintained by the town it goes through. Can a town sign anything as a business route they want or are there standards a business route has to meet?
Chris Dessert's excellent (though no longer maintained) Wisconsin Highway's site has great information on Wisconsin Business routes:
http://wisconsinhighways.org/indepth/business_specs.html
Here are some business routes I am aware of in Wisconsin.
Business 13 in Marshfield (Removed in 2010 after Central Av. Project)
Business 51 in Stevens Point-Plover (Will become local after Post Rd. Project)
Business 51 in Wausau (Kept becuase it connects many businesses and communities in the Wausau area)
Business 29 in Chippewa Falls (Still signed throughout Chippewa Falls)
Business 53 in Eau Claire (Also still signed, more commonly called Hastlings Way)
Business 10 in Neillsville (Signed as CTH-B)
Business 29 in Abbotsford (Another well-maintained route)
Quote from: GeekJedi on August 31, 2015, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: US 41 on August 31, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
I'm assuming that business routes are not really a highway maintained by the state, but maintained by the town it goes through. Can a town sign anything as a business route they want or are there standards a business route has to meet?
Chris Dessert's excellent (though no longer maintained) Wisconsin Highway's site has great information on Wisconsin Business routes:
http://wisconsinhighways.org/indepth/business_specs.html
Bessert.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on March 08, 2016, 11:33:25 AM
You resurrected a thread simply to correct a six month old spelling error? You're an administrator. Can you simply edit the post?
kutzy7 resurrected the thread one post prior.
There are several along US-151, at least on BGS's (e. g. Platteville, Mineral Point, Verona, etc.). If WisDOT ceases maintenance of a business route, do they leave the signs up?
The only two WISDOT business routes are Bus 51 in the Wausau area and Bus 51 between the Stevens Point south limits to I-39/US 51. Bus 51 within Stevens Point is locally designated. The rest of the routes are locally designated. Back in 2004, WISDOT was pressuring communities to decommission their business routes. Appleton, Green Bay, Oshkosh, and Plymouth all decommissioned their business routes. Even though Bus 42 in Manitowoc runs along state highways, the city of Manitowoc designates it and WISDOT was trying to get Manitowoc to decommission it, but refused, according to wisconsinhighways.org.
Are business routes really worth it? Or are they usually things promoted by a chamber of commerce without any evidence that they actually work?
Quote from: peterj920 on March 08, 2016, 01:30:14 PM
The only two WISDOT business routes are Bus 51 in the Wausau area and Bus 51 between the Stevens Point south limits to I-39/US 51. Bus 51 within Stevens Point is locally designated. The rest of the routes are locally designated. Back in 2004, WISDOT was pressuring communities to decommission their business routes. Appleton, Green Bay, Oshkosh, and Plymouth all decommissioned their business routes. Even though Bus 42 in Manitowoc runs along state highways, the city of Manitowoc designates it and WISDOT was trying to get Manitowoc to decommission it, but refused, according to wisconsinhighways.org.
Add Mount Horeb to that list as of last year.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on March 08, 2016, 01:42:00 PM
Are business routes really worth it? Or are they usually things promoted by a chamber of commerce without any evidence that they actually work?
I think communities want them after the initial "shock" of being bypassed. Most of the business routes that are around today are communities that were bypasses within the last 25 years. There still are some older than that (Green Lake, Beaver Dam, Waupun, Sun Prairie, Columbus) to name a few. The communities that gave up their business routes in 2004 were bypassed over 20 years prior and businesses sprawled out to the newer alignment in most cases.
And oftentimes that's not where the business develops anyway. For instance, getting off at Business 26 in Fort Atkinson on both the north and south sides of town is a wasteland. The US-12 exit is where the restaurants and gas stations are.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on March 08, 2016, 10:37:41 PM
And oftentimes that's not where the business develops anyway. For instance, getting off at Business 26 in Fort Atkinson on both the north and south sides of town is a wasteland. The US-12 exit is where the restaurants and gas stations are.
At the north Wis 26/Bus 26 interchange, was the road planned on being extended to Wis 89 or was there a proposal for a business development? There were traffic signals at the south ramps when the Ft. Atkinson bypass opened as a Super 2, but was replaced with stop signs when the bypass was twinned. I was wondering if the signals were there to accommodate a future expansion of the road northward.
Quote from: peterj920 on March 10, 2016, 01:46:32 AM
At the north Wis 26/Bus 26 interchange, was the road planned on being extended to Wis 89 or was there a proposal for a business development?
No. It wasn't even Highway 89 at the time of the bypass' initial planning. It was County Q. WI-89 was routed along this highway before construction was finished.
Quote from: peterj920 on March 10, 2016, 01:46:32 AMThere were traffic signals at the south ramps when the Ft. Atkinson bypass opened as a Super 2, but was replaced with stop signs when the bypass was twinned. I was wondering if the signals were there to accommodate a future expansion of the road northward.
No I simply think they anticipated more traffic, especially with the north side business park. Those stoplights were routinely ignored because there was absolutely no traffic.
Previously, Highway 89 used to duplex with Highway 26 from their junction in Fort Atkinson northward to US 18 in Jefferson. Highway 89 then duplexed with US 18 back to its present day alignment. I believe Highway 89 was relocated onto former County Highway Q's alignment around 1990. The Fort Atkinson bypass didn't open until the mid-90's, so SEWIGuy is correct.
Another interesting thing that occurs is that 2 separate business routes for Wis 26 end within about a mile of each other. I wonder if there are any other cases of separate business routes for the same parent route beginning/ending that close.
Quote from: kutzy7 on March 08, 2016, 06:21:44 AM
Here are some business routes I am aware of in Wisconsin.
Business 13 in Marshfield (Removed in 2010 after Central Av. Project)
Business 51 in Stevens Point-Plover (Will become local after Post Rd. Project)
Business 51 in Wausau (Kept becuase it connects many businesses and communities in the Wausau area)
Business 29 in Chippewa Falls (Still signed throughout Chippewa Falls)
Business 53 in Eau Claire (Also still signed, more commonly called Hastlings Way)
Business 10 in Neillsville (Signed as CTH-B)
Business 29 in Abbotsford (Another well-maintained route)
I would add to this list:
Business 26 in Watertown
Business 53 in Solon Springs
Business 41 in Peshtigo
Business 41 in Oconto
Business 29 in Shawano
Business 151 in Sun Prairie
Most are probably municipally maintained.
Business 11 Monroe
Business 40 Bruce
Business 141 Coleman/Pound
Business 23 Green Lake
Business 42/57 Sturgeon Bay
Business 42 Manitowoc
Business 151 Columbus/Beaver Dam/Waupun/Mineral Point/Platteville
Business 45 New London
Business 26 Ft. Atkinson/Jefferson
Business 41 in De Pere runs between I-41 and Wis 32 but is unsigned
US 151 has the most business routes.
Business 26 in Milton.
Add in Bus US-12 from Lake Delton to just south of Baraboo.....and another Business 12 near Sauk Prairie
Remembering old days when Bus 13 was in Wis Rapids along Wis 54 as well
(Sorry for bumping thread)
Quote from: peterj920 on March 16, 2016, 12:10:49 AM
US-151 has the most business routes.
Makes sense. It's the only long non-Interstate freeway/expressway in the state (unless you want to count 26, but I think Johnson Creek breaks it up).
Quote from: thspfc on August 09, 2020, 09:03:40 AM
Quote from: peterj920 on March 16, 2016, 12:10:49 AM
US-151 has the most business routes.
Makes sense. It's the only long non-Interstate freeway/expressway in the state (unless you want to count 26, but I think Johnson Creek breaks it up).
WI-29 is longer and US-53 is just a little shorter.
My list of all business routes in WI:
151/Platteville
151/Mineral Point
18+151/Mt Horeb
18+151/Verona
14/Oregon
151/Sun Prairie
14/Janesville
26/Fort Atkinson
12/Whitewater
26/Jefferson
26/Watertown
16/Oconomowoc (?)
151/Columbus
151/Beaver Dam
151/Waupun
12/Sauk Prairie
12/Baraboo
35/Holmen+Onalaska
35/River Falls
12/Eau Claire
53/Eau Claire+Lake Hallie
29/Chippewa Falls
29/Abbotsford
51/Wausau
29/Wittenberg (?)
29/Shawano+Bonduel
42+57/Sturgeon Bay
45/New London
10/Amherst+Amherst Jct. (?)
51/Stevens Point+Plover
13/Marshfield
13/Wis Rapids
10/Niellsville
53/Minong
53/Solon Springs
2/Ironwood+Hurley (not sure if it officially exists in Hurley or not, but I know it does in Ironwood)
41/Peshtigo
41/Oconto
141/Coleman+Pound
8/Rhinelander
64/Somerset
64/New Richmond
26/Milton
Per route:
8 business routes: US-151
4 business routes: US-12, WI-26, WI-29
3 business routes: US-53
2 business routes: US-10, WI-13, US-14, US-18, WI-35, US-41, US-51, WI-64
1 business route: US-2 (maybe), US-8, WI-16, WI-42, US-45, WI-57, US-141
I for sure missed some, so speak up if you find another one. I will edit this post accordingly.
Milton has a WI-26 business route.
Quote from: thspfc on August 09, 2020, 09:46:38 AM
My list of all business routes in WI:
151/Platteville
151/Mineral Point
18+151/Mt Horeb depends on who you believe - signed west of WIS-92, only one sign at ID's exit but not on the BGSs
18+151/Verona
14/Oregon
151/Sun Prairie
14/Janesville
26/Fort Atkinson
12/Whitewater
26/Jefferson
26/Watertown
16/Oconomowoc (?)
151/Columbus
151/Beaver Dam
151/Waupun
12/Sauk Prairie
12/Baraboo
35/Holmen+Onalaska
35/River Falls
12/Eau Claire
53/Eau Claire+Lake Hallie
29/Chippewa Falls
29/Abbotsford
51/Wausau
29/Wittenberg (?) yes
29/Shawano+Bonduel drops south prior
42+57/Sturgeon Bay
45/New London
10/Amherst+Amherst Jct. (?)
51/Stevens Point+Plover Point portion stricken from the books and now locally maintained, signs linger though
13/Marshfield
13/Wis Rapids
10/Niellsville
53/Minong
53/Solon Springs
2/Ironwood+Hurley (not sure if it officially exists in Hurley or not, but I know it does in Ironwood) not in Hurley
41/Peshtigo
41/Oconto
141/Coleman+Pound
8/Rhinelander not signed
64/Somerset
64/New Richmond
26/Milton
Per route:
8 business routes: US-151
4 business routes: US-12, WI-26, WI-29
3 business routes: US-53
2 business routes: US-10, WI-13, US-14, US-18, WI-35, US-41, US-51, WI-64
1 business route: US-2 (maybe), US-8, WI-16, WI-42, US-45, WI-57, US-141
I for sure missed some, so speak up if you find another one. I will edit this post accordingly.
Also 11 and 69 in Monroe.
Too bad there's no route log.
Quote from: SSOWorld on August 10, 2020, 06:33:38 AM
Quote from: thspfc on August 09, 2020, 09:46:38 AM
My list of all business routes in WI:
151/Platteville
151/Mineral Point
18+151/Mt Horeb depends on who you believe - signed west of WIS-92, only one sign at ID's exit but not on the BGSs
18+151/Verona
14/Oregon
151/Sun Prairie
14/Janesville
26/Fort Atkinson
12/Whitewater
26/Jefferson
26/Watertown
16/Oconomowoc (?)
151/Columbus
151/Beaver Dam
151/Waupun
12/Sauk Prairie
12/Baraboo
35/Holmen+Onalaska
35/River Falls
12/Eau Claire
53/Eau Claire+Lake Hallie
29/Chippewa Falls
29/Abbotsford
51/Wausau
29/Wittenberg (?) yes
29/Shawano+Bonduel drops south prior
42+57/Sturgeon Bay
45/New London
10/Amherst+Amherst Jct. (?)
51/Stevens Point+Plover Point portion stricken from the books and now locally maintained, signs linger though
13/Marshfield
13/Wis Rapids
10/Niellsville
53/Minong
53/Solon Springs
2/Ironwood+Hurley (not sure if it officially exists in Hurley or not, but I know it does in Ironwood) not in Hurley
41/Peshtigo
41/Oconto
141/Coleman+Pound
8/Rhinelander not signed
64/Somerset
64/New Richmond
26/Milton
Per route:
8 business routes: US-151
4 business routes: US-12, WI-26, WI-29
3 business routes: US-53
2 business routes: US-10, WI-13, US-14, US-18, WI-35, US-41, US-51, WI-64
1 business route: US-2 (maybe), US-8, WI-16, WI-42, US-45, WI-57, US-141
I for sure missed some, so speak up if you find another one. I will edit this post accordingly.
Also 11 and 69 in Monroe.
Too bad there's no route log.
BUS-51 in Plover/Stevens Point exists and is well signed.
BUS-53 in Eau Claire definitely exists:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7812845,-91.4416141,3a,15.3y,306.31h,96.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sitAUecnmB9k9R7yr71egaQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Google Maps shows that BUS-12 in Eau Claire, BUS-13 in Marshfield, and BUS-14 in Janesville all exist.
I wasn't sure about Oconomowoc, Amherst, or Hurley so thanks for clarifying. And I guess I was wrong about River Falls, Wis Rapids, and Niellsville. Also I figured that BUS-8 in Rhinelander was not signed, but listed it anyway.
Thanks!
Was 53 BUS in Superior officially stricken? I know it's not signed.
The Business 13 in Wisconsin Rapids has not been signed for awhile now as signs were removed before rerouting Hwy 54 in the Rapids. Decent number of these routes now only seem to live on in old maps or our GPS's.
Business 51 is well signed in Plover/Point area.....if anything changed the signage says still alive and strong
These business routes are largely remnants of the past and completely unnecessary, especially with the advent of the blue signage that indicates services all over the place.
One that I know well is the Bus WI-26 route in Fort Atkinson, which doesn't get you near any services on either end. But the US-12 exit has multiple gas stations, restaurants and hotels.
The Bus WI-26 in Milton is pretty absurd, and was put in place only after a gas station owner complained to his state assemblyman about the lack of an exit on the south end of Milton cutting off his station. Which he bought after all of the WI-26 bypass plans were published!
Anyway, from the south, that business route exits off of WI-26 at WI-59, goes into downtown, then heads north on the old highway 26 to the County Highway N exit - about two miles outside of town. A ridiculous route that doesn't even serve the aforementioned gas station.
I just found out that sometime between 2016-2018, BUS WIS 23 was removed from Green Lake. That route made a lot of sense though since 23 just completely bypasses the city. But ok.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:08 PM
Was 53 BUS in Superior officially stricken? I know it's not signed.
It is stricken.
Quote from: gr8daynegb on August 10, 2020, 01:33:07 PM
The Business 13 in Wisconsin Rapids has not been signed for awhile now as signs were removed before rerouting Hwy 54 in the Rapids. Decent number of these routes now only seem to live on in old maps or our GPS's.
Business 51 is well signed in Plover/Point area.....if anything changed the signage says still alive and strong
the Point/Plover Business 51 remains signed yes, but the state relinquished control of the Point portion last year and it ceased to exist in Point's mind. Point does not do a good job of signing. It sure doesn't help that US-51(I-39) Exit 161 still has Bus 51 on its signs.
Quote from: SSOWorld on August 10, 2020, 10:30:11 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:08 PM
Was 53 BUS in Superior officially stricken? I know it's not signed.
It is stricken.Quote from: gr8daynegb on August 10, 2020, 01:33:07 PM
The Business 13 in Wisconsin Rapids has not been signed for awhile now as signs were removed before rerouting Hwy 54 in the Rapids. Decent number of these routes now only seem to live on in old maps or our GPS's.
Business 51 is well signed in Plover/Point area.....if anything changed the signage says still alive and strong
the Point/Plover Business 51 remains signed yes, but the state relinquished control of the Point portion last year and it ceased to exist in Point's mind. Point does not do a good job of signing. It sure doesn't help that US-51(I-39) Exit 161 still has Bus 51 on its signs.
Got it.
Isn't there a business route for Burlington?
Quote from: dvferyance on August 18, 2020, 10:27:02 PM
Isn't there a business route for Burlington?
There may have been initially along the old routing of WIS 11 but not anymore. It is signed as Hwy JS on Chestnut St and Hwy E on Durand Ave.
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 18, 2020, 10:37:02 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on August 18, 2020, 10:27:02 PM
Isn't there a business route for Burlington?
There may have been initially along the old routing of WIS 11 but not anymore. It is signed as Hwy JS on Chestnut St and Hwy E on Durand Ave.
I thought it was along the old routing of WI-36. The old route of WI-11 east of Burlington has always been County Route E since the bypass opened. I filmed it back in January of 2011 shortly after it opened.
My recollection is there were never any business routes signed in Burlington.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on August 19, 2020, 01:46:47 PM
My recollection is there were never any business routes signed in Burlington.
Nope. You stated as such nine plus years ago!
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3744.msg100485#msg100485