What cities continue to use the Don't Walk sign? I'm guessing NYC, but I have no clue so I'm asking you.
Quote from: Buffaboy on October 02, 2015, 08:38:39 PM
What cities continue to use the Don't Walk sign? I'm guessing NYC, but I have no clue so I'm asking you.
Nope, NYC switched to the Hand and Man ones in 2001, and the word ones are all gone.
Nope. NYC has very few, if any. They were one of the first places to switch over. Niagara Falls actually has quite a few. I saw them somewhere else recently, but I can't remember where.
Last time I was in Auburn, Indiana, almost every signalized intersection had Don't walk/walk worded signals. Gary, IN is loaded with them as well, but many of them are no longer maintained. Elkhart, IN still has a few, but no where near the countless amount of them that were in service a few years ago. Monticello, IN has two intersections with them in the downtown area. One intersection has walk/don't walk signals, and the other intersection has wait/walk signals. I'll post a link to the wait/walk signals in a little bit for those of you interested.
Here's the intersection with the wait/walk signals,
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7447959,-86.763442,3a,26.1y,245.82h,83.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1se5faXlTb_5qhZtjWuJgCbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
There are no lights in the entire counties of Granite or Petroleum County, Montana that have a hand signal.
Ashwaubenon, WI has quite a few signals remaining, and the lights that still say don't walk/walk haven't had any LED conversions yet. Holmgren Way was reconstructed around 1998, and the signals haven't been modified since.
All of the pedestrian signals in Tuscumbia, AL are worded.
Florence, AL and Bessemer, AL used to be mostly worded peds, but Florence upgraded all of their neon peds to LED and Bessemer has probably replaced all or theirs by now.
All but one of the peds in Talladega, AL are worded.
Gadsden, AL also has quite a few worded peds. However, the ones that have working don't walks don't cycle and the ones that cycle only have working walks.
There are a lot of other towns in Alabama that have mostly worded peds or all worded peds, but those peds are poorly maintained and don't work all that well.
Quote from: cl94 on October 02, 2015, 09:44:21 PM
Nope. NYC has very few, if any. They were one of the first places to switch over. Niagara Falls actually has quite a few. I saw them somewhere else recently, but I can't remember where.
They're actually non-existent there. The last survivors that the D.O.T. somehow forgot existed near Yankees Stadium in the Bronx in the late 2000s. They have been since retro-fitted to modern LED hand and man inserts.
Some areas of Trenton in New Jersey still have worded pedestrian signals in use. Some date back to the 1970s and 1960s.
Evanston, IL still has a decent number.
As far as I'm aware, there are not any "worded" pedestrian signals remaining in the major urbanized areas of Nevada. Most ped signals in the Vegas and Reno areas have been converted to LED countdowns.
Years back Chester PA had hundreds of DONT WALK/WALK signals, most of them were 1970s model Eagle Flatbacks, but they all got replaced between 2009 and 2012.
In general your best bet to find anything old would be to look in run down cities where they don't have the money to replace stuff.
Or in isolated rural areas where it's easy for the people in charge to miss things and availability of money can also be an issue. But, not likely to find too many traffic signals, new or old, in such places.
There's still a couple hanging around Bethel, CT, like this one on Route 53:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3761692,-73.4249853,3a,15y,59.5h,86.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfTpzSE71Gyjm8PBnhW9_Mg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3761692,-73.4249853,3a,15y,59.5h,86.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfTpzSE71Gyjm8PBnhW9_Mg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Still up as of August 18th of this year.
Most of the remaining walk/don't walk signals I've seen remaining in my part of the DFW area, strangely enough, are in University Park. That is one of the more economically well-off parts of the area. Pretty much all the other suburbs are populated with a majority of hand/man ped signals.
I am wondering about NYC being there are thousands (and counting up all the crosswalk heads millions) of traffic signals. If they replaced all of them in 2001 as part of a project, it had to take months to change them all, even if you have two or three different crews working per borough considering that it would take anywhere from five to ten minutes per head to remove and replace the lens covering and inner lightbulbs with the new hardware.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 04, 2015, 04:37:47 PM
I am wondering about NYC being there are thousands (and counting up all the crosswalk heads millions) of traffic signals. If they replaced all of them in 2001 as part of a project, it had to take months to change them all, even if you have two or three different crews working per borough considering that it would take anywhere from five to ten minutes per head to remove and replace the lens covering and inner lightbulbs with the new hardware.
The project commenced in 2000 in Queens, following Staten Island. The DOT then began to retrofit pedestrian signals in the other boroughs later. It did not take one year to complete.
Instead, it took about four years for NYCDOT to successfully upgrade most of New York City's signals.
Here's a brief timeline...
Staten Island and Queens (2000-2003). Brooklyn (2001-2003 or 2004). Manhattan and the Bronx (2001-2008 or so).
Of course, some intersections were forgotten, but were discovered by the DOT in later years. Like I said in my previous comment here, the last intersection to my knowledge was upgraded near Yankee Stadium in the Bronx before the end of the 2000s. They're non-existent.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Phillipsburg,+NJ/@40.682424,-75.181705,3a,66.8y,312.69h,99.03t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s1yp0WE2vfZabPmLna-VIxw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c46da371024c57:0xee9545623288de2
I see Phillipsburg, NJ got rid of their two section ones and now have gone standard. I always remembered them riding along NJ 122 as the white WALK would flash as the city had decent signal timings unlike most now.
For those that are interested, here's that intersection from the Bronx that had incandescent pedestrian signals still in use. Circa 2007. Courtesy of Google Map.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8246408,-73.9285122,3a,75y,52.07h,83.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCG85-sebfDCaKsGC0Qvpjg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1
You have to move the small man around in order to see the entire intersection.
Note, too, that the traffic signals were still completely incandescent!
There's a couple of signals near me that still have worded pedestrian signals. Interestingly, one pole at each of the two intersections have symbol pedestrian signals mixed in.
This one on the right (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Glenolden,+PA/@39.9035237,-75.304268,3a,75y,45.56h,81.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZrarJXtetea21ZLVXfHy_A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DZrarJXtetea21ZLVXfHy_A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D244.32013%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c3ab19e1b545:0xdb68d33cede71f26!6m1!1e1) was the result of a pole replacement due to the original getting knocked down in an accident several years ago.
A bit too new for GSV, but this particular set of ped signalheads (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Glenolden,+PA/@39.900685,-75.3018426,3a,75y,332.89h,82.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svwscmgs4dYNR2Qi-mmLbZQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dvwscmgs4dYNR2Qi-mmLbZQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D236.58937%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c3ab19e1b545:0xdb68d33cede71f26!6m1!1e1) was recently retrofitted with symbolized signals. Note: these signals date back the mid-90s (the previous set of signals had no left turn signal cycles) and were one of the last ones erected with worded pedestrain signals.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 03, 2015, 11:12:27 PM
Evanston, IL still has a decent number.
I can't help but notice the irony here, given that Evanston is home to Northwestern University, one of the country's leading traffic engineering think tanks.
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 05, 2015, 10:05:15 AM
There's a couple of signals near me that still have worded pedestrian signals. Interestingly, one pole at each of the two intersections have symbol pedestrian signals mixed in.
This one on the right (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Glenolden,+PA/@39.9035237,-75.304268,3a,75y,45.56h,81.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZrarJXtetea21ZLVXfHy_A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DZrarJXtetea21ZLVXfHy_A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D244.32013%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c3ab19e1b545:0xdb68d33cede71f26!6m1!1e1) was the result of a pole replacement due to the original getting knocked down in an accident several years ago.
Off-topic: If you pan kitty-corner of that pole, you will see the walk signals above the roadway signal. It don't think that is allowed.
Quote from: Big John on October 05, 2015, 12:10:33 PMOff-topic: If you pan kitty-corner of that pole, you will see the walk signals above the roadway signal. It don't think that is allowed.
IIRC, the damaged pole assembly that the newer one replaced also had the pedestrian signals mounted above the roadway signals (facing eastbound Academy Ave.) as well.That The entire signal
assembly was probably installed back in the early 1970s and was likely a goof that was never picked up nor corrected; especially since the roadway signal is for the minor street, Academy Ave.
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 05, 2015, 12:56:36 PM
Quote from: Big John on October 05, 2015, 12:10:33 PMOff-topic: If you pan kitty-corner of that pole, you will see the walk signals above the roadway signal. It don't think that is allowed.
IIRC, the damaged pole assembly that the newer one replaced also had the pedestrian signals mounted above the roadway signals (facing eastbound Academy Ave.) as well.
That signal was probably installed back in the early 1970s and was likely a goof that was never picked up nor corrected; especially since the roadway signal is for the minor street, Academy Ave.
If you move the little street view man over a little bit and look at the 2007 image, you'll see it was a normal set up on that corner. Only the one pole had its pedestrian signals mounted above the vehicular signal.
Pan the camera around to see the whole intersection.
This is the 2007 image.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9035447,-75.3041992,3a,75y,155.63h,85.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svyiuvWjrPbO__2QWoH1y3w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1
Quote from: Mohkfry on October 05, 2015, 04:01:53 PMhttps://www.google.com/maps/@39.9035447,-75.3041992,3a,75y,155.63h,85.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svyiuvWjrPbO__2QWoH1y3w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1
Thanks for the historic info. My earlier post has since been corrected.
Quote from: Mohkfry on October 05, 2015, 04:01:53 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 05, 2015, 12:56:36 PM
Quote from: Big John on October 05, 2015, 12:10:33 PMOff-topic: If you pan kitty-corner of that pole, you will see the walk signals above the roadway signal. It don't think that is allowed.
IIRC, the damaged pole assembly that the newer one replaced also had the pedestrian signals mounted above the roadway signals (facing eastbound Academy Ave.) as well.
That signal was probably installed back in the early 1970s and was likely a goof that was never picked up nor corrected; especially since the roadway signal is for the minor street, Academy Ave.
If you move the little street view man over a little bit and look at the 2007 image, you'll see it was a normal set up on that corner. Only the one pole had its pedestrian signals mounted above the vehicular signal.
Pan the camera around to see the whole intersection.
This is the 2007 image.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9035447,-75.3041992,3a,75y,155.63h,85.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svyiuvWjrPbO__2QWoH1y3w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1
This is odd because I don't see any 12" original signals in that intersection, the only thing original to the intersection were the mast-arms and the Eagle pedestrian signals which were put up way back in the 1970s. The signals in the intersection appear to be replacements, one of them is a Gen 2 Durasig.
The 8-inch heads may also be Eagle Flatbacks originally installed in the 1970s, but I'm not sure, the thing is Pennsylvania does this with a lot of their mast-arm installations originally installed in the 1970s, some of the original signal heads may get replaced, or the all of them do, and the original mast-arms remain, very confusing.
Hardly a high concentration, but I'm still blown away that the Seattle/Tacoma region has any remaining. Portland @ Puyallup (https://goo.gl/wTRfnj) and River Rd @ 48th/66th (https://goo.gl/el6yjr). I'm sure there are others; I just spotted these today.
Quote from: roadman on October 05, 2015, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 03, 2015, 11:12:27 PM
Evanston, IL still has a decent number.
I can't help but notice the irony here, given that Evanston is home to Northwestern University, one of the country's leading traffic engineering think tanks.
Sept. 2012: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0523787,-87.6889977,3a,75y,244.06h,75.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snHSeq-EF3LeJoLZp6gNzAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Aug 2011: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0517404,-87.6832787,3a,29.2y,316.31h,84.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxR3z0WR1ZjSKYhpJ7fVvrw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Smack-dab at the campus entrance: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0583639,-87.6773351,3a,42.6y,152.03h,84.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seoX_-lESojPts-sWNXx8ZA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1, and there's a hand and man at the same intersection: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0584118,-87.6771285,3a,75y,71.8h,76.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shTEaLZL-rH3m_39y-UmYrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!!!
Quote from: traffic light guy on October 05, 2015, 05:51:17 PMThis is odd because I don't see any 12" original signals in that intersection, the only thing original to the intersection were the mast-arms and the Eagle pedestrian signals which were put up way back in the 1970s. The signals in the intersection appear to be replacements, one of them is a Gen 2 Durasig.
The 8-inch heads may also be Eagle Flatbacks originally installed in the 1970s, but I'm not sure, the thing is Pennsylvania does this with a lot of their mast-arm installations originally installed in the 1970s, some of the original signal heads may get replaced, or the all of them do, and the original mast-arms remain, very confusing.
Look a little closer.
From my earlier post (intersection of South & Academy Aves. in Holmes (Delaware County), PA); the signalheads on the mastarms are indeed 12"; the post-mounted ones are 8" (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Glenolden,+PA/@39.9035237,-75.304268,3a,75y,45.56h,81.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZrarJXtetea21ZLVXfHy_A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DZrarJXtetea21ZLVXfHy_A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D244.32013%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c3ab19e1b545:0xdb68d33cede71f26!6m1!1e1)
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 05, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
Quote from: traffic light guy on October 05, 2015, 05:51:17 PMThis is odd because I don't see any 12" original signals in that intersection, the only thing original to the intersection were the mast-arms and the Eagle pedestrian signals which were put up way back in the 1970s. The signals in the intersection appear to be replacements, one of them is a Gen 2 Durasig.
The 8-inch heads may also be Eagle Flatbacks originally installed in the 1970s, but I'm not sure, the thing is Pennsylvania does this with a lot of their mast-arm installations originally installed in the 1970s, some of the original signal heads may get replaced, or the all of them do, and the original mast-arms remain, very confusing.
Look a little closer.
From my earlier post (intersection of South & Academy Aves. in Holmes (Delaware County), PA); the signalheads on the mastarms are indeed 12"; the post-mounted ones are 8" (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Glenolden,+PA/@39.9035237,-75.304268,3a,75y,45.56h,81.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZrarJXtetea21ZLVXfHy_A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DZrarJXtetea21ZLVXfHy_A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D244.32013%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c3ab19e1b545:0xdb68d33cede71f26!6m1!1e1)
I meant that I don't see original 12-inch signal units from the 1970s, just replacement 12-inch heads.
Quote from: traffic light guy on October 05, 2015, 06:43:03 PMI meant that I don't see original 12-inch signal units from the 1970s, just replacement 12-inch heads.
Here's some older 12-inch signal heads within 3 miles of that intersection.
Post-mounted signalhead (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Morton,+PA/@39.9082873,-75.3232675,3a,75y,15.58h,72.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUB5DTbDGfkn_V2hqXEYRHA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DUB5DTbDGfkn_V2hqXEYRHA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D103.57837%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c26511134875:0xa0ebac8f8811ca90!6m1!1e1) This signalhead is the last of the original signalheads for this intersection assembly.
These signalheads (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Morton,+PA/@39.9080232,-75.3272829,3a,75y,323.08h,81.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9vGn6vn_PhnXgtCsAvC1CA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D9vGn6vn_PhnXgtCsAvC1CA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D18.065863%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c26511134875:0xa0ebac8f8811ca90!6m1!1e1) are definitely older/original for this assembly.
These 12-inchers are certainly over 25-30 years old.
(https://www.google.com/maps/place/Prospect+Park,+PA/@39.8806311,-75.3045882,3a,75y,9.25h,80.32t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjxfhjc1OiCRvi7rfXuHc8A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Djxfhjc1OiCRvi7rfXuHc8A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D26.962608%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c2ef773d3aaf:0xfc5fc55908ccbd0!6m1!1e1)
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 06, 2015, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: traffic light guy on October 05, 2015, 06:43:03 PMI meant that I don't see original 12-inch signal units from the 1970s, just replacement 12-inch heads.
Here's some older 12-inch signal heads within 3 miles of that intersection.
Post-mounted signalhead (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Morton,+PA/@39.9082873,-75.3232675,3a,75y,15.58h,72.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUB5DTbDGfkn_V2hqXEYRHA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DUB5DTbDGfkn_V2hqXEYRHA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D103.57837%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c26511134875:0xa0ebac8f8811ca90!6m1!1e1) This signalhead is the last of the original signalheads for this intersection assembly.
These signalheads (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Morton,+PA/@39.9080232,-75.3272829,3a,75y,323.08h,81.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9vGn6vn_PhnXgtCsAvC1CA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D9vGn6vn_PhnXgtCsAvC1CA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D18.065863%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c26511134875:0xa0ebac8f8811ca90!6m1!1e1) are definitely older/original for this assembly.
These 12-inchers are certainly over 25-30 years old.
(https://www.google.com/maps/place/Prospect+Park,+PA/@39.8806311,-75.3045882,3a,75y,9.25h,80.32t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjxfhjc1OiCRvi7rfXuHc8A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Djxfhjc1OiCRvi7rfXuHc8A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D26.962608%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c2ef773d3aaf:0xfc5fc55908ccbd0!6m1!1e1)
The first picture, the only original is the 8-inch Eagle which is side-mounted
Next, we got another scrapped intersection, the Eagle assemblies on the diagonal mast-arm are original and somebody put them up about 40 years ago, in the 1970s.
In the 3rd intersection the only one original from the Intersection is the Eagle Flatback which was put up in the early-1970s, Everything else was installed about 20 years ago.
Quote from: traffic light guy on October 06, 2015, 04:19:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 06, 2015, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: traffic light guy on October 05, 2015, 06:43:03 PMI meant that I don't see original 12-inch signal units from the 1970s, just replacement 12-inch heads.
Here's some older 12-inch signal heads within 3 miles of that intersection.
Post-mounted signalhead (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Morton,+PA/@39.9082873,-75.3232675,3a,75y,15.58h,72.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUB5DTbDGfkn_V2hqXEYRHA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DUB5DTbDGfkn_V2hqXEYRHA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D103.57837%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c26511134875:0xa0ebac8f8811ca90!6m1!1e1) This signalhead is the last of the original signalheads for this intersection assembly.
These signalheads (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Morton,+PA/@39.9080232,-75.3272829,3a,75y,323.08h,81.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9vGn6vn_PhnXgtCsAvC1CA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D9vGn6vn_PhnXgtCsAvC1CA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D18.065863%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c26511134875:0xa0ebac8f8811ca90!6m1!1e1) are definitely older/original for this assembly.
These 12-inchers are certainly over 25-30 years old.
(https://www.google.com/maps/place/Prospect+Park,+PA/@39.8806311,-75.3045882,3a,75y,9.25h,80.32t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjxfhjc1OiCRvi7rfXuHc8A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Djxfhjc1OiCRvi7rfXuHc8A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D26.962608%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c2ef773d3aaf:0xfc5fc55908ccbd0!6m1!1e1)
The first picture, the only original is the 8-inch Eagle which is side-mounted
Am I missing something? All the signalheads at the Franklin Ave./Amosland. Road (the first GSV-link) are clearly 12-inchers and; yes, only one of out of the total of eight 12-inch signalheads is original (I don't believe that anyone here is disputing that).
Here's an old horizontally-mounted 12" signalhead (on the mast arm) that's still around. (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Upper+Darby,+PA/@39.9351825,-75.308774,3a,75y,9.49h,78.22t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRBKNZ4wNb_dHmVFxrsPJrQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DRBKNZ4wNb_dHmVFxrsPJrQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D74.531837%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c17eaf41acb7:0xbdb59e417d470c47!6m1!1e1)
Just here to point out that BC still uses 8-inch post-mounted signals, something that I think went out of style in the US over the last few decades:
Also, that's an 8-inch arrow.
http://i.imgur.com/KTlLSnj.png (http://i.imgur.com/KTlLSnj.png)
EDIT: Fixed photo (with correct link):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa06yMzI.png&hash=762bcf5e766db1515b6807ee8d1086facdbf782b)
^^ Those look like 12" post-mounted signals.
But this interchange uses mostly 8" post-mounted signals: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.0311409,-122.7684889,3a,75y,300.21h,102.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNjNilR2vUt0d76uSi6PcjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: jakeroot on October 06, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
Just here to point out that BC still uses 8-inch post-mounted signals, something that I think went out of style in the US over the last few decades:
Also, that's an 8-inch arrow.
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Those are all 12 inch heads.
Quote from: Mohkfry on October 06, 2015, 09:38:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 06, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
Just here to point out that BC still uses 8-inch post-mounted signals, something that I think went out of style in the US over the last few decades:
Also, that's an 8-inch arrow.
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Those are all 12 inch heads.
I agree (https://www.google.com/maps/@49.1938205,-122.8887574,3a,46.8y,349.78h,85.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAf3dZgclMdcWiHwgY5hOUA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DAf3dZgclMdcWiHwgY5hOUA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D215.0777%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: Big John on October 06, 2015, 09:34:11 PM
^^ Those look like 12" post-mounted signals.
Quote from: cl94 on October 06, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
Quote from: Mohkfry on October 06, 2015, 09:38:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 06, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
Just here to point out that BC still uses 8-inch post-mounted signals, something that I think went out of style in the US over the last few decades:
Also, that's an 8-inch arrow.
-photo removed-
Those are all 12 inch heads.
I agree (https://www.google.com/maps/@49.1938205,-122.8887574,3a,46.8y,349.78h,85.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAf3dZgclMdcWiHwgY5hOUA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DAf3dZgclMdcWiHwgY5hOUA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D215.0777%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656)
*facepalm*
Wrong photo (my bad). Here's the photo I meant to post (with an actual 8-inch arrow):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa06yMzI.png&hash=762bcf5e766db1515b6807ee8d1086facdbf782b)
*facepalm*
Wrong photo (my bad). Here's the photo I meant to post (with an actual 8-inch arrow):
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There's a few 8-inch arrows around me as well, but they are all on abandoned heads. I'm not sure of any still in service around me anymore.
Here's an all 8-inch intersection on a road where the speed limit is 40, which is not allowed by today's MUTCD.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5545385,-87.3183213,3a,37.5y,357.57h,87.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suXyEapP6420fFPcnqajR0g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
The signals were in flash mode when Google drive through, but they are now working again. Two corners have mast arms, and the other two corners have pole mounts.
The whole intersection has Walk/Don't walk signals.
Going back to the original topic, I know the District of Columbia has a few text signals remaining. There's one on the northwest corner of the intersection of H Street and New York Avenue NW outside the church (signal faces pedestrians crossing New York Avenue towards the church). Another one is about a block away from there on the southeast corner of 13th Street and New York Avenue NW, across the street from McDonald's (signal faces pedestrians crossing New York coming from McDonald's). Oddly, at both of those intersections, all the other pedestrian signals use "the man and the hand," and most of them have countdown timers (not that DC pedestrians think signals apply to them anyway).
I don't know whether nor how many others may still exist.
Quote from: M3019C LPS20 on October 03, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
Some areas of Trenton in New Jersey still have worded pedestrian signals in use. Some date back to the 1970s and 1960s.
I would say *MOST* of Trenton still had worded ped signs. Some of them even have functioning bulbs inside! LOL
The intersection just outside my office recently was converted to symbols. It's almost guaranteed the assemblies were bought second-hand...as there's a mixture of designs used at this one intersection.
No intersection under Trenton City's jurisdiction has ped countdown timer, although nearly every intersection where NJDOT has jurisdiction does have the ped countdown timers.
Quote from: jakeroot on October 06, 2015, 10:38:41 PM
Quote from: Big John on October 06, 2015, 09:34:11 PM
^^ Those look like 12" post-mounted signals.
Quote from: cl94 on October 06, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
Quote from: Mohkfry on October 06, 2015, 09:38:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 06, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
Just here to point out that BC still uses 8-inch post-mounted signals, something that I think went out of style in the US over the last few decades:
Also, that's an 8-inch arrow.
-photo removed-
Those are all 12 inch heads.
I agree (https://www.google.com/maps/@49.1938205,-122.8887574,3a,46.8y,349.78h,85.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAf3dZgclMdcWiHwgY5hOUA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DAf3dZgclMdcWiHwgY5hOUA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D215.0777%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656)
*facepalm*
Wrong photo (my bad). Here's the photo I meant to post (with an actual 8-inch arrow):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa06yMzI.png&hash=762bcf5e766db1515b6807ee8d1086facdbf782b)
What's also very odd is that the 8 inch signal is mounted at the same height as the pedestrian signal. This is very rarely done, unless there is a steep uphill.
Quote from: jakeroot on October 05, 2015, 06:04:33 PM
Hardly a high concentration, but I'm still blown away that the Seattle/Tacoma region has any remaining. Portland @ Puyallup (https://goo.gl/wTRfnj) and River Rd @ 48th/66th (https://goo.gl/el6yjr). I'm sure there are others; I just spotted these today.
A famous one in Seattle is at I-5 & NE 45th in the U District (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6614005,-122.3207514,3a,15y,285.77h,90.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8QM_DX-F6QHmAySyubyCOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (part of an already unusual intersection):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fxydvjc8.jpg&hash=b5e788a954262f5277f0ec38bd38ee0c53139b1d)
I think the city of Pittsburgh still has a lot of the worded Don't Walk signs
Quote from: mrsman on October 09, 2015, 11:21:58 AM
What's also very odd is that the 8 inch signal is mounted at the same height as the pedestrian signal. This is very rarely done, unless there is a steep uphill.
BC usually puts the side-mounted signals next to the pedestrian signal. Here's another 8-inch arrow:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1NyExnn.png&hash=d25b7fdd975074bf1ca01f324206627749e36b9d)
P.s. Meant to reply to you three weeks ago. Forgot until now.
The Detroit metro area still has some worded pedestrian signals left, but they're mostly scattered around. Though the city that has the highest concentration of worded ped signals in the area (and in Michigan in general) is Dearborn.
Here's one of the intersections that has them: Monroe Street and Military Street (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2984123,-83.2451141,3a,60.1y,339.72h,93.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1smxPlQDyKY3PN4Y0boAR3wA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-3.1904427431159377%26panoid%3DmxPlQDyKY3PN4Y0boAR3wA%26yaw%3D339.71779569798!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTEwNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)
Oklahoma City, OK, and the northern part of the Providence RI metro area have a lot of worded pedestrian signals still in service.