I'm hearing that the Halloween black bun Whoppers at Burger King are causing green bowel movements.
Has anybody tried one yet?
What, no one ever ate a chocolate sugar cone?
Quote from: Brian556 on October 07, 2015, 12:22:48 AM
I'm hearing that the Halloween black bun Whoppers at Burger King are causing green bowel movements.
Has anybody tried one yet?
I'm steering clear. There's no telling what they do to make it look like that, and I've got an iffy stomach anyway.
Quote from: txstateends on October 07, 2015, 07:35:31 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on October 07, 2015, 12:22:48 AM
I'm hearing that the Halloween black bun Whoppers at Burger King are causing green bowel movements.
Has anybody tried one yet?
I'm steering clear. There's no telling what they do to make it look like that, and I've got an iffy stomach anyway.
You realize, of course, that fast food is bad for you even when you can't immediately see disturbing effect of it, right? It would be nice if this were a wake up call, but I really doubt that will be the case.
Quote from: Brian556 on October 07, 2015, 12:22:48 AM
I'm hearing that the Halloween black bun Whoppers at Burger King are causing green bowel movements.
Has anybody tried one yet?
If so, it's probably the food dye used in it.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 07, 2015, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: txstateends on October 07, 2015, 07:35:31 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on October 07, 2015, 12:22:48 AM
I'm hearing that the Halloween black bun Whoppers at Burger King are causing green bowel movements.
Has anybody tried one yet?
I'm steering clear. There's no telling what they do to make it look like that, and I've got an iffy stomach anyway.
You realize, of course, that fast food is bad for you even when you can't immediately see disturbing effect of it, right? It would be nice if this were a wake up call, but I really doubt that will be the case.
No offense, but can we please refrain from the
all fast-food is bad for you mantra from this thread and focus on issue at hand? A large cheesburger (similar to BK's Whopper) ordered at a conventional restaurant can be just as nutritionally bad for one as such from a fast-food place.
To my knowledge, this side-effect only involves
one particular product/item in the Whopper line as opposed to Whoppers in general.
That said, I tried one out of curiosity (I was coming home late from work) and indeed had the above-effect. Since I hadn't eaten beforehand since breakfast that day; it was very easy to put two-and-two together so to speak. I experienced nothing else and the said-side-effect was gone within a day or two.
Quote from: Brandon on October 07, 2015, 09:51:19 AMIf so, it's probably the food dye used in it.
I concurr. Such an additive obviously doesn't fully digest.
Long story short; the side-effect is indeed real but it's just an annoyance. It's no worse than somebody eating a standard Whopper.
That said, I probably won't order another one again; not just because of its odd side-effect but also, it wasn't really that much different than a standard Whopper.
The black-colored bun reminds me of when BK briefly offered green ketchup during the 1990s.
I saw a Japanese burger (probably what inspired BK) that in addition to the black bun also had black cheese. IIRC, the dye used was squid ink.
To say it looked revolting is quite an understatement.
Has anybody ever used Peptol Bismal? It goes in pink and goes out jet black.
Does anyone drink Mountain Dew? It makes your wiz come out a real weird yellow.
Bottom line is all foods come out in one form or another a strange color. What is new about this?
Quote from: roadman65 on October 07, 2015, 10:29:06 AM
Has anybody ever used Peptol Bismal? It goes in pink and goes out jet black.
Same end result if you binge eat Oreos.
Once upon a time, there was a song floating around the band/student section at Wisconsin games when we played Iowa (could also be appropriate for Nebraska):
Who really cares about the whole state of Iowa? The whole state of Iowa...the whole state of Iowa?
Who really cares about the whole state of Iowa? Who in the hell likes corn? It makes you poop funny.
http://www.poopreport.com/Intellectual/Content/Dye/dye.html
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 07, 2015, 06:53:33 AM
What, no one ever ate a chocolate sugar cone?
Or drank grape soda?
Even three Oreos will turn stools jet-black. Though I like them, I rarely eat them because they compromise the diagnostic value of stools (black stools are one symptom of bleeding in the colon).
Spinach in quantity (in spinach soup, or in spinach cheese pie, both of which I make on occasion) will give stools a marked green tint. I am more willing to tolerate this because it doesn't intefere with diagnosis and I like the taste of spinach.
It's the purple/black dye they use. You'll have the same thing happen with most other dark purple or black colored food products. It's completely harmless.
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 07, 2015, 12:10:25 PM
Even three Oreos will turn stools jet-black. Though I like them, I rarely eat them because they compromise the diagnostic value of stools (black stools are one symptom of bleeding in the colon).
I can offer no response but to admire your commitment. :clap:
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Quote from: Jardine on October 07, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
I saw a Japanese burger (probably what inspired BK) that in addition to the black bun also had black cheese. IIRC, the dye used was squid ink.
To say it looked revolting is quite an understatement.
You can get squid-ink rolls at 85 Degrees bakeries around here. They're pretty tasty: http://tiffinunboxed.com/post/75355580632/strangely-delicious-foods-85-cs-squid-ink-bread
Those who been to parties and have consumed large quantities of hooch made with cherry Kool-Aid have probably noticed their stool turning a very bright red color the next day after said party.
Or so I've been told. :bigass:
If you time your Fruit Loops consumption well, you can manage a good multicolored poo. Ask around of your friends with young children; one of them will know what I'm talking about.
Make a mental note when you eat beets so you avoid a panicked call to the doctor the next day.
And in case you're wondering;
Shamrock shakes
Barium cocktail for a GI test can
Activated charcoal
Jaundice
can all have poop coloring effects.
The 'Super B Complex' vitamins I take make my pee green. When I jaundiced my pee turned brown, and I've also pee'd red when I had the bad E coli food poisoning.
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 07, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 07, 2015, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: txstateends on October 07, 2015, 07:35:31 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on October 07, 2015, 12:22:48 AM
I'm hearing that the Halloween black bun Whoppers at Burger King are causing green bowel movements.
Has anybody tried one yet?
I'm steering clear. There's no telling what they do to make it look like that, and I've got an iffy stomach anyway.
You realize, of course, that fast food is bad for you even when you can't immediately see disturbing effect of it, right? It would be nice if this were a wake up call, but I really doubt that will be the case.
No offense, but can we please refrain from the all fast-food is bad for you mantra from this thread and focus on issue at hand? A large cheesburger (similar to BK's Whopper) ordered at a conventional restaurant can be just as nutritionally bad for one as such from a fast-food place.
Actually it was a direct response to someone expressing concern for their stomach given this development; heavily grease-laden foods don't bode well for
anyone's placid digestion no matter the dye.
However, the dye can certainly be an effective marker of which foodstuff is causing the intestinal offense.
Meh. The strangest thing is that I've had something as bad as I believe (I think) purple poop before. This ain't new.
Quote from JN Winkler:
QuoteEven three Oreos will turn stools jet-black. Though I like them, I rarely eat them because they compromise the diagnostic value of stools (black stools are one symptom of bleeding in the colon).
This really sounds like something Sheldon would say.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 07, 2015, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 07, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 07, 2015, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: txstateends on October 07, 2015, 07:35:31 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on October 07, 2015, 12:22:48 AM
I'm hearing that the Halloween black bun Whoppers at Burger King are causing green bowel movements.
Has anybody tried one yet?
I'm steering clear. There's no telling what they do to make it look like that, and I've got an iffy stomach anyway.
You realize, of course, that fast food is bad for you even when you can't immediately see disturbing effect of it, right? It would be nice if this were a wake up call, but I really doubt that will be the case.
No offense, but can we please refrain from the all fast-food is bad for you mantra from this thread and focus on issue at hand? A large cheesburger (similar to BK's Whopper) ordered at a conventional restaurant can be just as nutritionally bad for one as such from a fast-food place.
Actually it was a direct response to someone expressing concern for their stomach given this development; heavily grease-laden foods don't bode well for anyone's placid digestion no matter the dye.
However, the dye can certainly be an effective marker of which foodstuff is causing the intestinal offense.
You missed the point. A greasy burger from a fast food restaurant is no less healthy than a greasy burger from a local mom-and-pop diner or other non-fast establishment. Fast food is just the delivery method.
Doesn't the "monster cereal" known as Boo Berry have a similar reputation?
Quote from: kphoger on October 07, 2015, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 07, 2015, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 07, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 07, 2015, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: txstateends on October 07, 2015, 07:35:31 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on October 07, 2015, 12:22:48 AM
I'm hearing that the Halloween black bun Whoppers at Burger King are causing green bowel movements.
Has anybody tried one yet?
I'm steering clear. There's no telling what they do to make it look like that, and I've got an iffy stomach anyway.
You realize, of course, that fast food is bad for you even when you can't immediately see disturbing effect of it, right? It would be nice if this were a wake up call, but I really doubt that will be the case.
No offense, but can we please refrain from the all fast-food is bad for you mantra from this thread and focus on issue at hand? A large cheesburger (similar to BK's Whopper) ordered at a conventional restaurant can be just as nutritionally bad for one as such from a fast-food place.
Actually it was a direct response to someone expressing concern for their stomach given this development; heavily grease-laden foods don't bode well for anyone's placid digestion no matter the dye.
However, the dye can certainly be an effective marker of which foodstuff is causing the intestinal offense.
You missed the point. A greasy burger from a fast food restaurant is no less healthy than a greasy burger from a local mom-and-pop diner or other non-fast establishment. Fast food is just the delivery method.
I didn't, actually. That point was tangential. This topic is about fast food. There are lots of foods that will easily upset an "iffy stomach." Fast food, tending mainly to be greasy crap, is going to be one regardless of the dyes. Whether other foods do this (including mom-and-pop fast food/burgers/etc.) doesn't change that reality.
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 07, 2015, 12:10:25 PM
Even three Oreos will turn stools jet-black. Though I like them, I rarely eat them because they compromise the diagnostic value of stools (black stools are one symptom of bleeding in the colon).
I've eaten many more oreos than that in one sitting and never noticed any odd fecal coloring resulting from it.
Of course different people's bodies have different capacities to break down certain substances, so YMMV with this sort of thing.
Licorice
Quote from: Duke87 on October 07, 2015, 06:53:53 PMfecal coloring
All right. The AARoads Forum has now reached its zenith. Do we even bother keeping it going?
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 07, 2015, 04:43:12 PM
Make a mental note when you eat beets so you avoid a panicked call to the doctor the next day.
Forgot the details:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeturia
Some types of Golden Delicious apple have a quite astonishing ability to make you think you have diabetes and a bladder infection--the symptoms of which all go away when you change to a less sweet cultivar like Gala.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/BristolStoolChart.png)
Print it out and put it up in the restroom at work. :awesomeface:
Quote from: GaryV on October 07, 2015, 08:52:56 PMLicorice
Certainly it has a laxative effect (and there's other issues with eating too much), but it doesn't turn you poop black. Trust me, I've been close to ODing on liquorice before.
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 07, 2015, 11:54:36 PM
Some types of Golden Delicious apple have a quite astonishing ability to make you think you have diabetes and a bladder infection--the symptoms of which all go away when you change to a less sweet cultivar like Gala.
Golden Delicious are the worst apples - they taste of next to nothing, and have a horrible mushy texture (like type 5 in the above diagram!). Everything gets better if you stop eating them!
Quote from: Jardine on October 07, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
IIRC, the dye used was squid ink.
I'd like to try squid ink, but I don't think it can be procured without hurting the squid, which I would prefer to avoid because I rather like them as animals. (I did eat calamari once, though. It was okay.)
never eat prunes when you are famished. :-o
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 08, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
Quote from: Jardine on October 07, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
IIRC, the dye used was squid ink.
I'd like to try squid ink, but I don't think it can be procured without hurting the squid, which I would prefer to avoid because I rather like them as animals. (I did eat calamari once, though. It was okay.)
Similarly, the only animal I feel bad about eating is cuttlefish, because they are such spectacularly interesting animals.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 08, 2015, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 08, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
Quote from: Jardine on October 07, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
IIRC, the dye used was squid ink.
I'd like to try squid ink, but I don't think it can be procured without hurting the squid, which I would prefer to avoid because I rather like them as animals. (I did eat calamari once, though. It was okay.)
Similarly, the only animal I feel bad about eating is cuttlefish, because they are such spectacularly interesting animals.
cuttlefish and asparagus ?
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 08, 2015, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 08, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
Quote from: Jardine on October 07, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
IIRC, the dye used was squid ink.
I'd like to try squid ink, but I don't think it can be procured without hurting the squid, which I would prefer to avoid because I rather like them as animals. (I did eat calamari once, though. It was okay.)
Similarly, the only animal I feel bad about eating is cuttlefish, because they are such spectacularly interesting animals.
All of the cephalopods (cuttlefish, squid, octopus) are really interesting. Octopuses in particular are extremely intelligent and can display very human-like behavior. I saw a story from someone who owned an octopus that had somehow managed to get a hold of a bendy straw to play with. The owner was concerned that the octopus would injure itself and took the straw away. The octopus would, for the next week, very pointedly turn and face the corner of the tank whenever the owner entered the room.
FWIW, I stopped by the BK near me last night and noticed that the Halloween Whopper is no longer listed on their menu by the cash registers (though a window poster still remained). I'm guessing that they've stopped offering it and are dropping/dropped it.
Everyone probably knows eating asparagus makes your pee smell like asparagus.---
I once ate a large number of green grapes & had a bm shortly after. My poop was green, it freaked me out.
I got online to investigate, it turned out to be normal b/c my stomach hadnt properly digested the grapes so I cancelled the ambulance :-D
I think I read somewhere that one feature of the Halloween Whopper was that it has A1 sauce on it.
First place I ever saw that offered A1 as a condiment on a burger was Five Guys. That's what I usually get on my burger anytime I go to Five Guys.
How have we gotten this far into the thread without anybody pointing out that "black bun whoppers" could refer to both the cause and the effect?
"Honey, I ate too many black-bun Whoppers, and now I got me a turrible case of the black bun-whoppers!" (Read it in a Hank Hill voice, it's funnier.)
Quote from: hbelkins on October 09, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
I think I read somewhere that one feature of the Halloween Whopper was that it has A1 sauce on it.
First place I ever saw that offered A1 as a condiment on a burger was Five Guys. That's what I usually get on my burger anytime I go to Five Guys.
The A1 is in the bun itself. Baked in
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 08, 2015, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 08, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
Quote from: Jardine on October 07, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
IIRC, the dye used was squid ink.
I'd like to try squid ink, but I don't think it can be procured without hurting the squid, which I would prefer to avoid because I rather like them as animals. (I did eat calamari once, though. It was okay.)
Similarly, the only animal I feel bad about eating is cuttlefish, because they are such spectacularly interesting animals.
I don't like eating lamb or veal because of the meat coming from baby animals. The tastes of those foods don't do much for me though anyway, so I don't feel torn about not eating those.
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Working on the after
Note To Admins, this is fake, it is a prank someone did online, it is really a baby ruth candy bar in a toilet bowl.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 10, 2015, 02:50:15 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 08, 2015, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 08, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
Quote from: Jardine on October 07, 2015, 10:22:23 AM
IIRC, the dye used was squid ink.
I'd like to try squid ink, but I don't think it can be procured without hurting the squid, which I would prefer to avoid because I rather like them as animals. (I did eat calamari once, though. It was okay.)
Similarly, the only animal I feel bad about eating is cuttlefish, because they are such spectacularly interesting animals.
I don't like eating lamb or veal because of the meat coming from baby animals. The tastes of those foods don't do much for me though anyway, so I don't feel torn about not eating those.
The veal industry has a serious image problem from the stories out there of how it treats the calves. Lamb is one of the most delicious things on earth to me. Neither one gives me a stronger feeling of guilt than eating adult animals, because I suspect the animals all equally dislike being killed.
Now, when a lamb starts turning its fur the color of the ground at any given moment, we'll talk.
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In the US, lamb refers to any ovine meat - including what other English-speakers would call mutton.
Quote from: english si on October 10, 2015, 11:10:25 AM
In the US, lamb refers to any ovine meat - including what other English-speakers would call mutton.
We do have mutton that is referred to as such.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 10, 2015, 11:33:01 AMWe do have mutton that is referred to as such.
Yes, but the US authorities don't demand it (and haven't since 2010).
Oh man, they weren't kidding
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It's split pea soup.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on October 11, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
Oh man, they weren't kidding
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It's split pea soup.
I remember this quote from Spongebob Squarepants.
"What can we get for a dollar?"
"With $1 you can get this fake dollar, to (don't remember)"
"Nah. What else do you have?"
"Fake vomit"
"No."
"Real vomit?"
"Ew."
TMFI, man! TMFI!
I'm so glad disheartened that the green poop thread mad made it to page three.
I'm not shy about having a discussion of the physical properties of stools on a public forum, but I don't think it is something that needs to be illustrated with pictures, even if they are later claimed to show something other than stools. (The production designers for Salò quite convincingly faked stools for the coprophagy scene by mixing bar chocolate with orange juice.)
In general, I worry less about color of stools than about their quantity, regularity, and ease of passage. It is often said that Americans do not eat enough fiber and that this is why constipation is so prevalent in this country. The Wikipedia article on dietary fiber (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber#United_States) notes that North Americans on average eat 50% as much fiber as recommended, a percentage that drops to 20% for younger people. I suspect that if we all actually ate enough fiber, toilets all over the country would plug up, so that inadequacy of the plumbing (something I never noticed to exist in Britain, for example) exacerbated by regulatory insistence on low-flow toilets contributes to constipation, obesity, diabetes, etc. at epidemic levels.
Admittedly, this causal chain has so many links and is so tenuous that I am skeptical anyone will gun hard for an Ig Nobel trying to prove it, but I think it is shameful that there are American parents who, when they are asked by their young (and freshly potty-trained) children to define a good stool, simply say "Any one that does not hurt." For good long-term colon health, including prevention of diverticulosis, I think it is necessary to have higher standards and that diet should be developed with easy transit of stools through the colon as a primary consideration.
Combine it with the haribo sugar free gummybears.
Back to the actual topic at hand:
The local BK near me has since removed it's Halloween Whopper poster from the window.
I guess it's a reasonable assumption that the Halloween Whopper was a sales flop for BK. Its digestive side-effect (for those that actually tried it), no doubt, discouraged others from trying it.
I was at a BK late last week and saw no mention of it.
It's certainly possible that stories about green poo caused them to yank it early, perhaps over concerns about liability, or just deeming it to be bad press.
Of course, it always was intended to be a limited time item, which generally means "while supplies last". If the discovery of this effect caused a lot of people to want to try it out, it may well have caused some places to run out early.
And let's be realistic: even amid the suspended disbelief of fast food patrons, dyed bread may have been a step too far. Much as people didn't take to purple catsup, black-dyed bread probably goes too much against expectation to be appetizing, however "natural" the dye.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 22, 2015, 08:57:30 AM
And let's be realistic: even amid the suspended disbelief of fast food patrons, dyed bread may have been a step too far. Much as people didn't take to purple catsup, black-dyed bread probably goes too much against expectation to be appetizing, however "natural" the dye.
They might have been better off using a dark rye-type bun instead. That's naturally dark colored, and would've made a slightly different flavor for the burger.
Quote from: Duke87 on October 21, 2015, 07:19:54 PMOf course, it always was intended to be a limited time item, which generally means "while supplies last".
Given that it was titled the
Halloween Whopper; such was originally intended to be offered through at least Oct. 31.
And the
"while supplies last" doesn't exactly explain why all posters promoting the product were taken down
at least 2 weeks beforehand as well as it no longer being listed on the menu screens.
Quote from: Duke87 on October 21, 2015, 07:19:54 PMIf the discovery of this effect caused a lot of people to want to try it out, it may well have caused some places to run out early.
Offhand, I sincerely doubt that such happened en masse.
Long story short; the Halloween Whopper received an early discontinuation.
Quote from: english si on October 10, 2015, 11:10:25 AM
In the US, lamb refers to any ovine meat - including what other English-speakers would call mutton.
Lamb and mutton aren't super common here, but most grocery stores and butchers do have lamb. Lamb here (in FL at least) is usually from Australia. Mutton to me is noticeably different and I've never noticed anything inappropriately labeled, legal definition aside.
Black buns causing green buns