So, I'd previously heard of Tuscon's 'Straveneus' and Tallahassee's use of "Nene," but recently when looking on Google Maps near my area I discovered something that doesn't appear to even exist elsewhere, the street suffix "Nvno," - https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3339204,-81.7187791,18z/data=!3m1!1e3?force=lite, https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3496878,-81.7145412,17z/data=!3m1!1e3?force=lite
At first I thought someone was messing around with the Google Maps editor, but after checking out the county's GIS that wasn't the case. It appears to be an abbreviation for "nvnohi," the Cherokee word for road. Why this would be in use in a random part of Northwest NC and not on a reservation is beyond me. I'd like to go out there to see if there are street signs with that on it, actually.
Any other examples of just really strange and out there street suffixes?
Owensboro, KY uses "Walk" as a suffix.
^^ "Walk" is far from strange.
Things like Walk, Mews, Park, etc might be fairly rare, but they aren't strange.
"Walk" is extremely common in Breezy Point, the Queens neighborhood hit by the big fire during Hurricane Sandy.
Off the top of my head the most unique one I can think of is Cavalier Corridor in the Lake Barcroft neighborhood in Northern Virginia. I also know of a Gildersleeve Wood in Charlottesville across Jefferson Park Avenue from the UVA Grounds. I've always liked the name "Gildersleeve Wood."
As I think about it further, I'm reminded of Brockett's Crossing in Fairfax County and Rebel Run in Fairfax City. The latter is adjacent to Fairfax High School, whose teams are the Rebels. I haven't heard any nonsense about renaming it during the current little fad of renaming Confederate references.
I think this topic has been the subject of a prior thread, but I'm not inclined to search for it.
There are walks in Philadelphia on the University of Pennsylvania campus, some of which (like Locust Walk) turn into streets where the campus ends and they are open to vehicular traffic.
The most unusual I can think of (although not sure how unusual this is) are "Hilton Dwy" and "Siemens Dwy" signed at traffic lights from Wood Ave South in Iselin. They are just what you'd think, entrances to Hilton and Siemens buildings.
Not quite an unusual street suffix in and of itself. There several streets in Lenexa (and I suspect other suburbs here in the KC area) that are suffixed with Court or Circle, but don't end in a cul-de-sac. For example, Schweiger Court (https://goo.gl/maps/4AJqvZ6P6UB2), Legler Circle (https://goo.gl/maps/4AJqvZ6P6UB2) and Country Hill Court (https://goo.gl/maps/G424pdJoV2T2).
Quote from: cappicard on October 15, 2015, 12:10:21 PM
Not quite an unusual street suffix in and of itself. There several streets in Lenexa (and I suspect other suburbs here in the KC area) that are suffixed with Court or Circle, but don't end in a cul-de-sac. For example, Schweiger Court (https://goo.gl/maps/4AJqvZ6P6UB2), Legler Circle (https://goo.gl/maps/4AJqvZ6P6UB2) and Country Hill Court (https://goo.gl/maps/G424pdJoV2T2).
That's very common in Chicago and anywhere the numbered grid is in the area. Court is used for the half-block streets between Avenues; and likewise, Place is used for the half-block streets between Streets.
Example: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.707226,-87.8367459,16.02z
Morristown has a number of Places without any grid: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Speedwell+Pl,+Morristown,+NJ+07960/@40.8067594,-74.4878667,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c3a6c7732fe751:0x83bebdcb74dfe6
Only a few of them end in cul-de-sacs. Speedwell Pl. also shares the name of a street perpendicular to it for no apparent reason.
Quote from: bzakharin on October 15, 2015, 02:06:25 PM
Morristown has a number of Places without any grid: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Speedwell+Pl,+Morristown,+NJ+07960/@40.8067594,-74.4878667,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c3a6c7732fe751:0x83bebdcb74dfe6
Only a few of them end in cul-de-sacs. Speedwell Pl. also shares the name of a street perpendicular to it for no apparent reason.
The side street that's labeled 95th Street (the north one) isn't directly connected to the busy thoroughfare also named 95th St.
https://goo.gl/maps/4xyXZUkSDND2
I think 95th Place would be more appropriate for the side street than just 95th Street.
How about a street that's named as a US highway bypass and functions as such, however never been designated by AASHTO as such?
It's US 281 Bypass in Great Bend, Kansas.
https://goo.gl/maps/X4GTf2u4ces
Two in a subdivision in Clark County, Ky., outside Winchester, are Shalamar Rue and Lamond Ruelle. Those are pretty unusual, I think.
I have a friend that used to live on Fox Haven Chase in Sturtevant, WI and the next street is Camelot Trace. I haven't seen Chase or Trace used anywhere else. These are not as strange as the OP listed, though.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6889515,-87.8899042,16z?hl=en
I used to live near Breese Terrace in Madison, WI. I've seen Terrace used a few times but I don't think it's very common.
Quote from: Mrt90 on October 15, 2015, 03:38:18 PM
I have a friend that used to live on Fox Haven Chase in Sturtevant, WI and the next street is Camelot Trace. I haven't seen Chase or Trace used anywhere else. These are not as strange as the OP listed, though.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6889515,-87.8899042,16z?hl=en
I used to live near Breese Terrace in Madison, WI. I've seen Terrace used a few times but I don't think it's very common.
I used to live in Virginia Beach, Virginia, and Chase was somewhat common there. I did also see Trace once.
In New Mexico, by virtue of Spanish language conventions, it's not the suffix, but the prefix:
Case in point, in Mesilla, NM, virtually every roadway is Calle de(l) XXXX or Avenida de(l) XXXX: https://goo.gl/maps/eFvYn9szzGB2
Both are typically not abbreviated on street name signs: https://goo.gl/maps/ez3aWDJ5mwn
Those are the most common prefixes in Spain, actually. As for unusual street prefixes, I still have to see Costanilla (a narrow, inclined street) outside my hometown.
Here we have Delaware St in Edwardsville, Kansas.
Yep, officially this alley is a street.
https://goo.gl/maps/Ftndqi2cmqE2
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Arabian Run, Dapple trace, and Greyhound pass all interesting street suffixes in the Indy area.
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Last month I was riding the subway home and a little kid was looking at the system map. The next station was "King St—Old Town" and I heard him announce it as "King Saint—Old Town."
So maybe "St" could be uncommon :pan:
Trafficway in the Kansas City area
Corso in Nebraska City, Neb (which also has a few Rues)
Knoll in SW Ohio
I recall being routed to an address on [something] Close not that long ago, but I'm not sure where it was
I have seen streets in suburban neighborhoods with Run and Rise as suffixes.
Quote from: Purgatory On Wheels on October 15, 2015, 08:08:13 PM
Trafficway in the Kansas City area
Corso in Nebraska City, Neb (which also has a few Rues)
Nebraska City is weird.
Here in Spearfish we have a street with no suffix whatsoever: Tulane.
Pass as in Brett Favre Pass by Green Bay.
Quote from: Big John on October 15, 2015, 08:40:27 PM
Pass as in Brett Favre Pass by Green Bay.
I feel like I've seen Passes somewhere else, but can't think of where it is.
That is a pretty imaginative way to name a street, though.
My neighborhood is a tad little strange. Instead of cities using East Drive, we use Drive East. So Mallard Drive East, in a city would probably be Mallard East Drive.
The Omaha area has a large number of Plaza's, although some of them are the street names apartment complexes use to put an address on individual apartment buildings.
Tucson has "Paris Promenade". I always thought that was a cool street name. :cool:
Driving home from Verizon Center last night on I-295 prompted me to remember the odd segment of Drake Place in Southeast DC that was renamed "Queen's Stroll." Some maps show it as "Queen's Stroll Place," but news reports at the time said it was to be simply "Queen's Stroll." The name commemorates a visit by Queen Elizabeth II in 1991. After addressing Congress, for some reason the Queen visited a run-down part of Southeast on the far side of the Anacostia River.
Quote from: tidecat on October 15, 2015, 04:45:39 AM
Owensboro, KY uses "Walk" as a suffix.
So does Long Beach, NY. Although the streets that are walks are literally pedestrian only. They're too narrow to fit a car down them.
Suffolk County on Long Island is big on paths. There's Straight Path, Hubbards Path, Old Willets Path, Stephen Hands Path, and Bicycle Path in various places throughout the county. Yes, Bicycle Path is a road for cars--it's not a bicycle path.
Since moving to Alberta last year, I've seen suffixes that were definitely a bit more creative than what I'm used to seeing - Trail, Close, Wynd, Green, Chase, Heath, Pointe, and Landing are all suffixes I've encountered thus far, especially in the newer subdivisions adjacent to Anthony Henday Dr.
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 15, 2015, 08:56:42 PM
Quote from: Big John on October 15, 2015, 08:40:27 PM
Pass as in Brett Favre Pass by Green Bay.
I feel like I've seen Passes somewhere else, but can't think of where it is.
That is a pretty imaginative way to name a street, though.
KY 118, the connector route between the Hal Rogers Parkway and KY 80/US 421 in Hyden, Leslie County, is named "Tim Couch Pass" after the former Leslie County High, UK and Cleveland Browns QB.
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Quote from: Big John on October 15, 2015, 08:40:27 PM
Pass as in Brett Favre Pass by Green Bay.
I feel like I've seen Passes somewhere else, but can't think of where it is.
That is a pretty imaginative way to name a street, though.
KY 118, the connector route between the Hal Rogers Parkway and KY 80/US 421 in Hyden, Leslie County, is named "Tim Couch Pass" after the former Leslie County High, UK and Cleveland Browns QB.
Heh. Then there's the road near my mother's old home in Floyd County where the locals merely call it going "Up Skull." My father, who was from Trenton, NJ, remarked that going "Up Skull" was the first time he saw a trailer straddle a creek...for obvious reasons.
A number of (generally higher-end) neighborhoods in the Richmond, VA area use "Trace", "Run", and "Chase". There are also a number of "Crescents", though that particular suffix isn't exactly rare.
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 15, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
Here in Spearfish we have a street with no suffix whatsoever: Tulane.
That's very common in Irvine, and a few other places in south Orange County:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z)
Not sure how uncommon it is in other parts of the country, but Los Coyotes Diagonal in Long Beach is the only example of that suffix I can think of.
Quote from: DTComposer on October 17, 2015, 01:30:35 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 15, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
Here in Spearfish we have a street with no suffix whatsoever: Tulane.
That's very common in Irvine, and a few other places in south Orange County:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z)
Not sure how uncommon it is in other parts of the country, but Los Coyotes Diagonal in Long Beach is the only example of that suffix I can think of.
those roads likely do have suffixes, they just dont post them on the signs, which is very annoying. Look at detroit for a lot of examples of this. Also Pike is a good suffix.
Tucker's Grade in Charlotte County, FL. Although grade in itself is used for specific mountain hills, like on I-24 through Monteagle, PA which is called Monteagle Grade by most. However, this road is not on a hill or climb, just the suffix.
Then you have Broadway where most people consider it to be a "Way" but its one whole name derived from the Dutch word "Broadwieg" where the famous street in NYC got its name from.
Park Row in Lower Manhattan near the Brooklyn Bridge is unusual.
Then you havye roads like Dale Mabry Highway in Tampa, FL where locals do not use the suffix and many believe that "Dale Mabry" is like "Bowery" in NYC.
Also Wichita, KS does not use suffixes on road signs along I-135 and US 54/400 and sign them with name only, even though some are avenues and streets officially. Even Broadway is actually in reality "Broadway Avenue" in Wichita.
Earlier today I passed Tinner's Hill in Falls Church, Virginia. Don't know how common "Hill" is as a suffix, but that's the only one of which I know.
Had a friend in Annandale VA who lived on "The Midway". Can't say I ever heard that one elsewhere.
Quote from: DTComposer on October 17, 2015, 01:30:35 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 15, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
Here in Spearfish we have a street with no suffix whatsoever: Tulane.
That's very common in Irvine, and a few other places in south Orange County:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z)
Not sure how uncommon it is in other parts of the country, but Los Coyotes Diagonal in Long Beach is the only example of that suffix I can think of.
They are seen in other parts of the country. Weirdest one I know is in Atlanta where there is a street named Boulevard. There is no suffix since it is its own suffix.
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on October 17, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
Had a friend in Annandale VA who lived on "The Midway". Can't say I ever heard that one elsewhere.
Just south of Atlanta there is a subdivision road called Roses of Picardy: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6133261,-84.4547281,370m/data=!3m1!1e3
West Hartford, CT has a street called Boulevard. Many people add "The" before it, but it's really just Boulevard. It turns into West Blvd. at the Hartford line.
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on October 17, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
Had a friend in Annandale VA who lived on "The Midway". Can't say I ever heard that one elsewhere.
That sounds familiar. Is it off Duncan Drive? My parents live a short distance west of there near Guinea and 236.
Similarly, there's a street not far from our neighborhood called "The Parkway." My sat-nav, whose map does not show the suffix on any street, shows it as "The."
Quote from: silverback1065 on October 17, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: DTComposer on October 17, 2015, 01:30:35 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 15, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
Here in Spearfish we have a street with no suffix whatsoever: Tulane.
That's very common in Irvine, and a few other places in south Orange County:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z)
Not sure how uncommon it is in other parts of the country, but Los Coyotes Diagonal in Long Beach is the only example of that suffix I can think of.
those roads likely do have suffixes, they just dont post them on the signs, which is very annoying. Look at detroit for a lot of examples of this. Also Pike is a good suffix.
No, they actually do not have suffixes, per the City website (parcel search maps, general plan, etc.) and the USPS Zip Code lookup site.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 17, 2015, 03:19:49 PM
Earlier today I passed Tinner's Hill in Falls Church, Virginia. Don't know how common "Hill" is as a suffix, but that's the only one of which I know.
Hills is common around here, usually referring to a steep-grade residential street. But never seen singular 'Hill.'
Quote from: roadman65 on October 17, 2015, 03:14:32 PM
Then you have Broadway where most people consider it to be a "Way" but its one whole name derived from the Dutch word "Broadwieg" where the famous street in NYC got its name from.
Speaking of NYC, is 'Concourse' (as in Grand Concourse) actually considered a suffix?
Here in Danbury, we have a "Wooster Heights". That's it. https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3848944,-73.459393,15.75z (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3848944,-73.459393,15.75z)
The USPS website lists an official abbreviation for "Stravenue", whatever that is.
At my old job, we had a customer whose address was on a "Portofino Strada". I looked it up and the neighborhood was full of Italian street names, so I'm guessing that's a suffix in Italian.
And of course, there's Kansas and Missouri and their Trafficways.
Quote from: steviep24 on October 15, 2015, 08:14:00 PM
I have seen streets in suburban neighborhoods with Run and Rise as suffixes.
But do the Rises pass over the Runs at any point?
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 18, 2015, 02:59:35 PM
... "Portofino Strada" ... so I'm guessing that's a suffix in Italian.
Yup, Strada = Road or Street
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on October 17, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
Had a friend in Annandale VA who lived on "The Midway". Can't say I ever heard that one elsewhere.
This reminded me of Chicago's Midway Plaisance. How many other Plaisances could there possibly be?
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 18, 2015, 02:59:35 PM
The USPS website lists an official abbreviation for "Stravenue", whatever that is.
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From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stravenue (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stravenue)
QuoteA stravenue (portmanteau of street and avenue) is a type of road particular to Tucson, Arizona. The United States Postal Service officially supports the abbreviation STRA for stravenues.[1] A Stravenue runs "diagonally between and intersects a Street and an Avenue."
Reno, NV has two of an unusual one: Row
*Commercial Row - an east/west street downtown, next to the train track trench.
*Kings Row - an east/west minor collector road through a residential neighborhood. (The east end of this road intersects some cul-de-sacs such as King Arthur Ct.
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 15, 2015, 09:01:10 PM
My neighborhood is a tad little strange. Instead of cities using East Drive, we use Drive East. So Mallard Drive East, in a city would probably be Mallard East Drive.
That's not unusual at all. The "East" is being used as a directional suffix.
Quote from: DSS5 on October 18, 2015, 10:47:33 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 17, 2015, 03:19:49 PM
Earlier today I passed Tinner's Hill in Falls Church, Virginia. Don't know how common "Hill" is as a suffix, but that's the only one of which I know.
Hills is common around here, usually referring to a steep-grade residential street. But never seen singular 'Hill.'
South Bend has Erskine Manor Hill, which I mentioned the last time we had a topic like this. It's a street that winds its way up what used to be an estate owned by a Studebaker Motors president, Albert R. Erskine. Erskine was one of the victims of the Great Depression, committing suicide in 1933 after he was forced out of the presidency by bankruptcy receivers. The hill now features many high-end homes.
I think the only one I've seen listed so far that approaches to the near-uniqueness of "Nvno" would be "Stravenue". The rest either are many times more common than those two, even if still rare overall, or are reasonable-sounding enough that one wouldn't consider them a complete head-scratcher. (For example, "Stroll", which I have probably never seen in real life–but if I did, I'd be like "OK, I get that one." But "Stravenue"??)
Possibly the weirdest I've found is a residential road near Williamsburg named 'Tarleton Bivouac': https://goo.gl/maps/nPxAdTDpnSt. Not really sure why you'd want to name a residential area for a temporary camp for soldiers.
Marlboro VT has a Cow Path 40. There aren't any other named or numbered cow paths in the area.
I live in Ashe County NC where there are several NVNO roads. After seeing this post, I did a little research because I could think of numerous "odd" street suffixes. This site lists quite a few that no one else has mentioned -- https://pe.usps.com/text/pub28/28apc_002.htm.
First time I went to Punta Gorda I was intrigued by the term Esplanade as a suffix. It's essentially used in the same way as Promenade but, being from Illinois, I had never heard it before. It may even be common in FL, or other places, but it was the first time I had heard it.
Quote from: silverback1065 on October 17, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: DTComposer on October 17, 2015, 01:30:35 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 15, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
Here in Spearfish we have a street with no suffix whatsoever: Tulane.
That's very common in Irvine, and a few other places in south Orange County:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6694345,-117.7984299,17z)
Not sure how uncommon it is in other parts of the country, but Los Coyotes Diagonal in Long Beach is the only example of that suffix I can think of.
those roads likely do have suffixes, they just dont post them on the signs, which is very annoying. Look at detroit for a lot of examples of this. Also Pike is a good suffix.
Even more annoying on advance intersection signs, where sometimes you wonder if it's the name of the upcoming intersection street, a town boundary, or something else entirely: https://goo.gl/maps/2C8qsjUfzs2JVmDm9
Quote from: Paulinator66 on March 24, 2020, 01:37:47 PM
First time I went to Punta Gorda I was intrigued by the term Esplanade as a suffix. It's essentially used in the same way as Promenade but, being from Illinois, I had never heard it before. It may even be common in FL, or other places, but it was the first time I had heard it.
It is a very common suffix out west.
Hard to believe no one has mentioned Salisbury Crag in Worcester, MA.
Nash's Nook in Columbia, TN
Silverado Pass in Spring Hill, TN
Neeley's Bend in Spring Hill, TN
Major north-south street here in Houston: Buffalo Spdwy (Speedway)
there's a 'trail' and several 'runs' in fort collins.
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on February 19, 2021, 12:02:42 AM
there's a 'trail' and several 'runs' in fort collins.
"Trail" is hardly unusual.
Quote from: kphoger on February 19, 2021, 10:16:16 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on February 19, 2021, 12:02:42 AM
there's a 'trail' and several 'runs' in fort collins.
"Trail" is hardly unusual.
I agree.
Here (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1406477,-77.4942465,20z/data=!5m1!1e1) is an intersection at which Trail isn't even the weirdest suffix of the intersection. And just half a mile away,
an intersection of two Trails (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1473194,-77.4991391,19.46z/data=!5m1!1e1).
Quote from: webny99 on February 19, 2021, 10:26:51 AM
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Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on February 19, 2021, 12:02:42 AM
there's a 'trail' and several 'runs' in fort collins.
"Trail" is hardly unusual.
I agree. Here (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1406477,-77.4942465,20z/data=!5m1!1e1) is an intersection at which Trail isn't even the weirdest suffix of the intersection. And just half a mile away, an intersection of two Trails (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1473194,-77.4991391,19.46z/data=!5m1!1e1).
They're common enough that I can tell you the abbreviations without even looking them up:
Trail = Tr
Meadows = Mws
Did I get them right?
USPS standards (https://pe.usps.com/text/pub28/28apc_002.htm) appear to be "TRL" and "MDWS".
I'm not sure I've seen a Meadows before, but Trl definitely lines up with what I've seen.
Quote from: kphoger on February 19, 2021, 10:38:59 AM
They're common enough that I can tell you the abbreviations without even looking them up:
Trail = Tr
Meadows = Mws
Did I get them right?
Not quite... as just noted, and as also seen in the link below, it looks like Meadows is Mdws. Although I don't know why you would need an abbreviation. It's spelled out in my example above.
https://cceo.org/addressing/documents/StreetAbbreviationsGuide.pdf
In other news, can we now say that anything not on that list wins the thread?
Quote from: kphoger on February 19, 2021, 10:38:59 AM
They're common enough that I can tell you the abbreviations without even looking them up:
Trail = Tr
Meadows = Mws
Did I get them right?
Reminds me that Richmond has a bunch of subdivisions named "Mews", often with the main entrance street suffixed the same. Some examples are Larsen Mews, Wistar Creek Mews, Maelee Mews, Cedarville Mews and Providence Creek Mews. There are also a number of apartments and housing complexes named "Mews" on traditional streets or streets with "Mews" in the street name. I noticed that Southside Richmond is now often referred to as "North Chesterfield".
While technically the names aren't that unusual, in Townshend, MA, there is a Charles St. Ave. there also used to be a Charles St. Ave. Rd., but that no longer exists.
Oklahoma City has the Tinker Diagonal, however I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it isn't very unique.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on February 19, 2021, 06:52:56 PM
"Mews"
That's actually what I was thinking of, but I typed "Mws" in error.
Quote from: MCRoads on February 19, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
While technically the names aren't that unusual, in Townshend, MA, there is a Charles St. Ave. there also used to be a Charles St. Ave. Rd., but that no longer exists.
Wow. I thought Richmond suburbs were strange with Broad Street Road and Hull Street Road. Then you've got PA-132 which is just plain ole Street Road in Warrington and Bensalem.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on February 19, 2021, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on February 19, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
While technically the names aren't that unusual, in Townshend, MA, there is a Charles St. Ave. there also used to be a Charles St. Ave. Rd., but that no longer exists.
Wow. I thought Richmond suburbs were strange with Broad Street Road and Hull Street Road. Then you've got PA-132 which is just plain ole Street Road in Warrington and Bensalem.
It's not just us. Sangamon County, IL has North Walnut Street Road and 9th Street Road...in addition to Athens Blacktop.
Quote from: MCRoads on February 19, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
Oklahoma City has the Tinker Diagonal, however I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it isn't very unique.
Tinker Diagonal is actually split between Del City and Midwest City. I don't think any part of it crosses into OKC proper, though I might be wrong. For those who don't know it, Tinker Diag is the street name for the I-40 frontage roads on that stretch, and also at one time the name for I-40 through the area, but for official stupid reasons renamed "Freedom Freeway" at some point. Anyway, people just call the mainline I-40 and the frontage roads have Tinker Diagonal addresses.
Kansas City KS has a freeway, former K-132, that's called the Turner Diagonal.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 20, 2021, 12:36:27 AM
for official stupid reasons renamed "Freedom Freeway" at some point.
Did they designate an Expressdom Expressway somewhere else at the same time? Or a Parkdom Parkway? So many missed opportunities.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on February 12, 2021, 10:25:06 PM
Hard to believe no one has mentioned Salisbury Crag in Worcester, MA.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 13, 2021, 08:19:54 AM
Nash's Nook in Columbia, TN
Silverado Pass in Spring Hill, TN
Neeley's Bend in Spring Hill, TN
Cases like these make me wonder if there's a distinction to be made between [Name + Suffix] constructions, and those where it's simply a two-word phrase for some geographic feature, which for "literary" reasons is also applied to the road itself.
In other words, a crag and a bend are both physiographic features, not types of roads–but both could logically have roads running through them. So in the case of Salisbury Crag and Silverado Pass, do "crag" and "pass" actually function as the road descriptor suffix? Or is there an unwritten descriptor, as: {the road through} Silverado Pass, where "road" is the descriptor, not "pass"?
(Am I greatly over-thinking this? Of course! You could also say that somebody who climbs Mt. Everest is getting way too much exercise.) :-P
For that matter, have we looked at the relatively unusual cases where the road descriptor is a prefix rather than a suffix? For example, here's the intersection of Trail of the Maples and " " " Hemlocks:
https://goo.gl/maps/XoxxZhgitWFDcPWa9 (the map view erroneously omits the "the")
No Name Uno, in Gilroy, CA https://goo.gl/maps/m5r77CsEfLfighN89
It's a frontage road, but it's relatively well-known because there's a major hospital on it!
Some history here: https://gilroydispatch.com/former-worker-says-he-coined-no-name-uno/
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on February 19, 2021, 10:51:42 PM
Blacktop
'Blacktop' is a common generic in southern Illinois–both as part of the official road name and as common parlance for "____ Road".
So, for example, near Zeigler is a road officially called
Creek Nation Blacktop (https://goo.gl/maps/zSwuXSf9LtEbqdKc8). Or there's
Eddyville Blacktop (Eddyville Blk) (https://goo.gl/maps/QPGfcuzdBqddyzQFA).
But the road between Corinth and Johnston City is commonly called 'Corinth Blacktop' in Johnston City, and it's commonly called 'Johnston City Blacktop' in Corinth. Herrin Road west of Herrin is commonly called 'Herrin Blacktop' in Johnston City; east of Herrin is commonly called 'Colp Blacktop' in Herrin. You get the idea.
This sometimes makes for confusion. For example, I once witnessed an accident on what's officially called 'Corinth Road' on the outskirts of Johnston City. I called 9-1-1 and reported the location as 'Johnston City Blacktop', because that's what I had heard most people refer to it as. The dispatcher on the other end replied with 'Which one?' To which I replied 'the one that heads west out of town toward Corinth'.
Quote from: empirestate on February 20, 2021, 11:42:29 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on February 12, 2021, 10:25:06 PM
Hard to believe no one has mentioned Salisbury Crag in Worcester, MA.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 13, 2021, 08:19:54 AM
Nash's Nook in Columbia, TN
Silverado Pass in Spring Hill, TN
Neeley's Bend in Spring Hill, TN
Pass is definelty a suffix and there are other examples in the Nashville metropolitan area of "Pass".
Cases like these make me wonder if there's a distinction to be made between [Name + Suffix] constructions, and those where it's simply a two-word phrase for some geographic feature, which for "literary" reasons is also applied to the road itself.
In other words, a crag and a bend are both physiographic features, not types of roads–but both could logically have roads running through them. So in the case of Salisbury Crag and Silverado Pass, do "crag" and "pass" actually function as the road descriptor suffix? Or is there an unwritten descriptor, as: {the road through} Silverado Pass, where "road" is the descriptor, not "pass"?
(Am I greatly over-thinking this? Of course! You could also say that somebody who climbs Mt. Everest is getting way too much exercise.) :-P
For that matter, have we looked at the relatively unusual cases where the road descriptor is a prefix rather than a suffix? For example, here's the intersection of Trail of the Maples and " " " Hemlocks:
https://goo.gl/maps/XoxxZhgitWFDcPWa9 (the map view erroneously omits the "the")
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 22, 2021, 09:44:01 AM
Pass is definelty a suffix and there are other examples in the Nashville metropolitan area of "Pass".
Is it used to denote a sort of road-like feature? (It certainly could be.) Or is it always evoking a mountain pass?
Anyway, even without "Pass" as an example, the question certainly remains. Now I'm trying to think of a case where a road is named as a geographic feature, or something else, without using an obvious two-word, specific-generic construction. Closest I can think of is Bowery.
Quote from: empirestate on February 23, 2021, 12:49:42 AM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 22, 2021, 09:44:01 AM
Pass is definelty a suffix and there are other examples in the Nashville metropolitan area of "Pass".
Is it used to denote a sort of road-like feature? (It certainly could be.) Or is it always evoking a mountain pass?
Anyway, even without "Pass" as an example, the question certainly remains. Now I'm trying to think of a case where a road is named as a geographic feature, or something else, without using an obvious two-word, specific-generic construction. Closest I can think of is Bowery.
I don't really think so. I think it is a suffix. However, in Spring Hill I also see Springs, Glen, Grove, Knoll, Walk and Ridge used as a suffix.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Spring+Hill,+TN/@35.7252561,-86.9321936,16.88z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8863785e49af2da3:0x1bc893243d09b485!8m2!3d35.751179!4d-86.9300023 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Spring+Hill,+TN/@35.7252561,-86.9321936,16.88z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8863785e49af2da3:0x1bc893243d09b485!8m2!3d35.751179!4d-86.9300023)
Quote from: tidecat on October 15, 2015, 04:45:39 AM
Owensboro, KY uses "Walk" as a suffix.
I think Walk is used in the Hampton Roads, VA area frequently. I know there are a couple in the Nashville, TN region.
In the Hickory-Conover area in NC, there's many streets that take on multiple suffixes. You could have a 10th Avenue Way or a 4th Street Place Drive.
Columbia, MD, has a host of wacky street names, including many that end in "Garth", "Row", and "Ride".
A complete list can be found here. https://geographic.org/streetview/usa/md/howard/columbia.html
The history behind street naming in Columbia can be found at https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1995-01-10-1995010059-story.html
Quote from: frankenroad on February 23, 2021, 02:26:40 PM
many that end in "Garth"
(https://media.tenor.com/images/0e8ea0376fc02a64c6a5d6f8dc6cc6a7/tenor.gif)
There are also roads that lack suffixes... I was looking at Google Maps and came across some new suburban neighbourhoods in Irvine CA with street names that are just named stuff like "Toretta" and "Della".
Quote from: andrepoiy on February 26, 2021, 08:05:05 PM
There are also roads that lack suffixes... I was looking at Google Maps and came across some new suburban neighbourhoods in Irvine CA with street names that are just named stuff like "Toretta" and "Della".
I grew up in a town like that. My address was 806 S 1st. And I have a childhood memory of my mom ordering something over the phone...
– What's your address?
– 806 S 1st.
– 1st what?
– Just 1st.
– I mean, is it 1st Street, 1st Avenue, 1st what?
– No, it's just 1st.
– Well, I have to put something into the computer. It's a required field.
– Then just put whatever you want, then.
– Is it Street or Avenue or...?
– No.
– OK, how about 1st Street, then?
– Whatever you think.
:banghead:
Quote from: kphoger on February 26, 2021, 08:43:14 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on February 26, 2021, 08:05:05 PM
There are also roads that lack suffixes... I was looking at Google Maps and came across some new suburban neighbourhoods in Irvine CA with street names that are just named stuff like "Toretta" and "Della".
I grew up in a town like that. My address was 806 S 1st. And I have a childhood memory of my mom ordering something over the phone...
– What's your address?
– 806 S 1st.
– 1st what?
– Just 1st.
– I mean, is it 1st Street, 1st Avenue, 1st what?
– No, it's just 1st.
– Well, I have to put something into the computer. It's a required field.
– Then just put whatever you want, then.
– Is it Street or Avenue or...?
– No.
– OK, how about 1st Street, then?
– Whatever you think.
:banghead:
That was long before the USPS online database of addresses.
Late 90s.
Quail "Hollow"
https://www.google.com/maps/place/249-201+Quail+Hollow,+Canton,+MS+39046
There is also a road nearby named "Parkway East"...
Oh-also The East Mall and the West Mall in Toronto
Quote from: kenarmy on March 16, 2021, 12:41:21 AM
Quail "Hollow"
https://www.google.com/maps/place/249-201+Quail+Hollow,+Canton,+MS+39046
There is also a road nearby named "Parkway East"...
We have some Hollow suffix streets in Middle Tennessee.
Quote from: ahj2000 on March 16, 2021, 03:45:19 AM
Oh-also The East Mall and the West Mall in Toronto
The Queensway and Queensway also exist
Quote from: kenarmy on March 16, 2021, 12:41:21 AM
Quail "Hollow"
https://www.google.com/maps/place/249-201+Quail+Hollow,+Canton,+MS+39046
Looks pretty dang flat to me...unless they're thinking the little drainage-y ditch just to the south is the hollow?
In the past (at least the 1970s when I lived there), Henrico County VA (suburb of Richmond, VA) added the suffix "Road" on to the continuation of Broad Street after it exited the City of Richmond - resulting in Broad Street Road (aka US 250). I don't think this was the only case of them doing this but I can't recall another example to cite here. Still, it seemed very strange to me at the time and it appears that they discontinued this practice quite some time ago.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on March 17, 2021, 12:16:07 PM
In the past (at least the 1970s when I lived there), Henrico County VA (suburb of Richmond, VA) added the suffix "Road" on to the continuation of Broad Street after it exited the City of Richmond - resulting in Broad Street Road (aka US 250). I don't think this was the only case of them doing this but I can't recall another example to cite here. Still, it seemed very strange to me at the time and it appears that they discontinued this practice quite some time ago.
Hull Street/ Hull St Rd (US 360) [emoji6]
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on March 17, 2021, 12:16:07 PM
In the past (at least the 1970s when I lived there), Henrico County VA (suburb of Richmond, VA) added the suffix "Road" on to the continuation of Broad Street after it exited the City of Richmond - resulting in Broad Street Road (aka US 250). I don't think this was the only case of them doing this but I can't recall another example to cite here. Still, it seemed very strange to me at the time and it appears that they discontinued this practice quite some time ago.
greeley, co is full of 'avenue courts' and 'street road's. probably an 'avenue place' or two, as well.
People keep bringing them up. Which means they're not very unusual.
Seems like Indianapolis is a hotbed for streets with multiple suffixes, boasting such gems as:
- East and West Fall Creek Parkway North Drive
- North White River Parkway West Drive
- Priority Way West Drive
- Priority Way South Drive
- East and West Pleasant Run Parkway North Drive
- Brookside Parkway North Drive
- Brookside Parkway South Drive
- Kessler Boulevard West Drive
- Kessler Boulevard East Drive
Alley (Aly) and Terrace (Ter).
Quote from: KCRoadFan on March 17, 2021, 09:21:34 PM
Seems like Indianapolis is a hotbed for streets with multiple suffixes, boasting such gems as:
- East and West Fall Creek Parkway North Drive
- North White River Parkway West Drive
- Priority Way West Drive
- Priority Way South Drive
- East and West Pleasant Run Parkway North Drive
- Brookside Parkway North Drive
- Brookside Parkway South Drive
- Kessler Boulevard West Drive
- Kessler Boulevard East Drive
Are those cases of the Drive being a spur from the main road? Kind of like
Rock Road Court being a spur of Rock Road (https://goo.gl/maps/WasE5VC3f9rjYdEf7) here in Wichita?
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 17, 2021, 09:28:03 PM
Alley (Aly) and Terrace (Ter).
I take it you haven't spent much time in the
Kansas City area (https://goo.gl/maps/zStmPwQe8SK2iLSK9), if you think Terrace is "very unusual".
As for Alley, the only town I can think of offhand where it's common is the small military town of
Ogden, KS (https://goo.gl/maps/CZUMRuXHKBTGKBu59).
Quote from: kphoger on March 18, 2021, 09:30:03 AM
As for Alley, the only town I can think of offhand where it's common is the small military town of Ogden, KS (https://goo.gl/maps/CZUMRuXHKBTGKBu59).
May I suggest Boston? (Hint: use "Public" as the nominative element in every case.) ;-)
Quote from: empirestate on March 18, 2021, 02:14:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 18, 2021, 09:30:03 AM
As for Alley, the only town I can think of offhand where it's common is the small military town of Ogden, KS (https://goo.gl/maps/CZUMRuXHKBTGKBu59).
May I suggest Boston? (Hint: use "Public" as the nominative element in every case.) ;-)
Northampton, MA has at least one: Crackerbarrell Alley.
Quote from: kphoger on March 18, 2021, 09:30:03 AM
I take it you haven't spent much time in the Kansas City area (https://goo.gl/maps/zStmPwQe8SK2iLSK9), if you think Terrace is "very unusual".
You're right. I haven't. But then again, it seems like a lot of people on this thread are replying with suffixes that are uncommon in their area, but not in others.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 19, 2021, 05:26:44 PM
You're right. I haven't. But then again, it seems like a lot of people on this thread are replying with suffixes that are uncommon in their area, but not in others.
What area do you have in mind, where "alley" and "terrace" are unusual? (Like yourself, I'm in New York, where both are very common–I'd go so far as to say standard, along with "boulevard" or "drive" or "parkway".)
In Oklahoma, alleys in general are typically only seen in the oldest parts of cities, are seldom named, and almost never signed. The only exceptions are when the city wants to name something small and out-of-the-way after someone (like Flaming Lips Alley (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4659233,-97.5090479,3a,42.7y,79.49h,88.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sq7hPrgk5EEN9WnJ4J0vYvQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) in Oklahoma City).
Over CA-24 in Oakland, an overpass is signed as "Fwy Overpass," which is not a suffix I've seen for another street. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8506234,-122.2225409,3a,23.8y,2.54h,97.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZAESJtK44EHlwzC8KV9LzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
(https://i.imgur.com/vv8dzk5.jpg)
How about the three sides of Central Park using cardinal Directions unlike the east side which retains Fifth Avenue and it one way status as West Side Eighth Avenue not only gives up its name for Central Park West, but becomes a two way street as well.
You have Central Park West, Central Park North, and Central Park South.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 22, 2021, 11:20:30 AM
How about the three sides of Central Park using cardinal Directions unlike the east side which retains Fifth Avenue and it one way status as West Side Eighth Avenue not only gives up its name for Central Park West, but becomes a two way street as well.
You have Central Park West, Central Park North, and Central Park South.
You have this around other park as well. I used to live on Van Cortlandt Avenue West, which not only runs into but is also parallel with Van Cortlandt Park South. Another major street in the area is Van Cortlandt Park East, which is not to be confused with the relatively minor Van Cortlandt Avenue East. (What would be Van Cortlandt Park West is in fact Broadway.)
Yeah, giving directions or getting deliveries was pretty fraught in those days. :-)
is this uncommon im so confused?? In Bolton, MS this happens. (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bolton,+Ms+City+Hall/@32.3473086,-90.459371,80m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x862852ae286c29db:0x3879ba8e3cca9082!8m2!3d32.3473815!4d-90.459583?hl=en-US) And the road is officially listed as just "Rye". And the official address of the city hall is Rye, Bolton, MS. :confused:
Quote from: kenarmy on April 04, 2021, 12:15:52 PM
is this uncommon im so confused?? In Bolton, MS this happens. (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bolton,+Ms+City+Hall/@32.3473086,-90.459371,80m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x862852ae286c29db:0x3879ba8e3cca9082!8m2!3d32.3473815!4d-90.459583?hl=en-US) And the road is officially listed as just "Rye". And the official address of the city hall is Rye, Bolton, MS. :confused:
I can't find an official website for the town hall, but the only addresses I'm seeing listed from directory sites are either PO Box 7, or 202 Raymond Bolton Road.
Quote from: empirestate on April 04, 2021, 06:17:27 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on April 04, 2021, 12:15:52 PM
is this uncommon im so confused?? In Bolton, MS this happens. (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bolton,+Ms+City+Hall/@32.3473086,-90.459371,80m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x862852ae286c29db:0x3879ba8e3cca9082!8m2!3d32.3473815!4d-90.459583?hl=en-US) And the road is officially listed as just "Rye". And the official address of the city hall is Rye, Bolton, MS. :confused:
I can't find an official website for the town hall, but the only addresses I'm seeing listed from directory sites are either PO Box 7, or 202 Raymond Bolton Road.
I see a difference in the "city" and "town" hall address.. and if it means anything, Rye is listed here: https://geographic.org/streetview/usa/ms/hinds/bolton.html
I've been to that nearby church several times and I never saw a Rye sign and I thought it was just a glorified driveway/ parking lot.
Probably just crocky data from Google. Doesn't show up in USPS data.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 04, 2021, 09:55:52 PM
Probably just crocky data from Google. Doesn't show up in USPS data.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The most official reference I can find is this one (http://cmpdd.org/bolton/), a second-hand source.
(This feels like a mapping challenge for the USGS' citizen map corps.) :)
Just south of Tucson, AZ, I saw a subdivision of streets with the suffix "Wog." (I'm guessing that word means something in one of the local Indian languages in the area - right?)
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 04, 2021, 08:26:14 PM
Just south of Tucson, AZ, I saw a subdivision of streets with the suffix "Wog." (I'm guessing that word means something in one of the local Indian languages in the area - right?)
The best I can do on this side of paywalls is the snippet below, which suggests "wog" means "road" in the Tohono O'odham language.
(https://i.imgur.com/mjjboXE.png)
I know of one street in Cincinnati which uses "Rue" and uses it first in the name "Rue De La Paix" which at the very least I think is a bit unusual for this part of the country as it was primarily settled by Germans.
"Loop" seems to be common in New Mexico.
Hill, Rise, Crest, Views, Heights, Green, Landing, Grove, Cove, Mews, Row, Point, Gardens, Spa, Glade, Vale, and Park are all suffixes I know of that are in use in New Zealand
Brae and Fen have been used as suffixes in suburbs inspired by Scottish place names.
Esplanade or Parade are common along beach fronts/coastal areas.
"The Furlong", "The Glen", "The Rosebowl", "The Anchorage", "The Strand", and "The Promenade" are street names that I know of in Auckland.
We have our own "Broadway" and also similar one-word street names such as "Meadway" and "Treeway".
Quote from: andrepoiy on March 16, 2021, 12:59:01 PM
Quote from: ahj2000 on March 16, 2021, 03:45:19 AM
Oh-also The East Mall and the West Mall in Toronto
The Queensway and Queensway also exist
Another good Toronto example is Queens Quay on the lakeshore (pronounced "key" - you hear tourists say "kway" :))
Quote from: Dave on March 24, 2020, 09:39:38 AM
I live in Ashe County NC where there are several NVNO roads. After seeing this post, I did a little research because I could think of numerous "odd" street suffixes. This site lists quite a few that no one else has mentioned -- https://pe.usps.com/text/pub28/28apc_002.htm (https://pe.usps.com/text/pub28/28apc_002.htm).
Interesting that that link doesn't have "line". It's very common in parts of Ontario, particularly rural areas. Here's some examples:
Brown's Line in Toronto: https://goo.gl/maps/TnhUo7UMPyhoZfA37 (https://goo.gl/maps/TnhUo7UMPyhoZfA37)
Tenth Line in suburban Mississauga: https://goo.gl/maps/h57zMDhxKYAZp8s57 (https://goo.gl/maps/h57zMDhxKYAZp8s57)
Confederation Line through the rural town of Wyoming: https://goo.gl/maps/fNi5XNgbW2kkGYPg9 (https://goo.gl/maps/fNi5XNgbW2kkGYPg9)
Line 60 in rural North Perth: https://goo.gl/maps/fGgSx2TEWLQ9Bzfo6 (https://goo.gl/maps/fGgSx2TEWLQ9Bzfo6)
I'm assuming that it's less common in the US, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 15, 2015, 07:45:22 AM
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As I think about it further, I'm reminded of Brockett's Crossing in Fairfax County and Rebel Run in Fairfax City. The latter is adjacent to Fairfax High School, whose teams are the Rebels. I haven't heard any nonsense about renaming it during the current little fad of renaming Confederate references.
....
Rebel Run has, not surprisingly, now been renamed. It's now "Lion Run," so I guess Fairfax High School's teams are now the Lions. At some point well over 30 years ago, the school had gotten rid of any Confederate symbolism and had used imagery from the Revolution era in connection with the name "Rebels," but I guess the mere word is to be considered unacceptable nowadays. (On the whole, from a political theory standpoint the conflict often called the American Revolution was in many ways more of a "rebellion" than it was a "revolution" when you compare it with the French or Russian Revolutions).
Quote from: 7/8 on August 18, 2021, 08:33:33 AM
Another good Toronto example is Queens Quay on the lakeshore (pronounced "key" - you hear tourists say "kway" :))
Which is interesting, as that pronunciation of "quay" is not at all unique to Toronto, nor even Canada!
Quote from: empirestate on August 18, 2021, 09:58:02 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 18, 2021, 08:33:33 AM
Another good Toronto example is Queens Quay on the lakeshore (pronounced "key" - you hear tourists say "kway" :))
Which is interesting, as that pronunciation of "quay" is not at all unique to Toronto, nor even Canada!
Maybe I'm full of crap and justifying the fact that I thought it was "kway" as a kid :-D. Though I should've said
some tourists, as I'm sure some people don't know the word quay.
I've never heard the word said aloud before, so I'd have said kway.
I know this is only tangentially relevant - but the discussion of the word "quay" and its pronunciation led me to think: how do the locals pronounce the name of Quay County in New Mexico (where Tucumcari is)? Anyone from NM who can chime in here?
Quote from: 7/8 on August 18, 2021, 08:33:33 AM
Interesting that that link doesn't have "line". It's very common in parts of Ontario, particularly rural areas.
I believe that when surveyors surveyed Southern Ontario, Lines (e.g. Ninth Line) intersected Concessions (e.g. Concession Road 5). That's why they're so common in rural areas. They exist in urban areas too when they decided not to rename it to something else. (See Ninth Line is Markham ON, or Ninth Line in Oakville ON)
Quote from: kphoger on August 18, 2021, 11:10:08 AM
I've never heard the word said aloud before, so I'd have said kway.
Right, it'd be due to unfamiliarity with the word, rather than where one is from.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 18, 2021, 10:29:26 PM
I know this is only tangentially relevant - but the discussion of the word "quay" and its pronunciation led me to think: how do the locals pronounce the name of Quay County in New Mexico (where Tucumcari is)? Anyone from NM who can chime in here?
Wikipedia offers
kway, due to its being named after a Pennsylvania senator who presumably pronounced it that way.