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Title: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: Pink Jazz on October 20, 2015, 11:08:49 PM
I was wondering, for full 6-panel logo sign installations, does your state install the blue board in a horizontal or vertical orientation, or a combination of both?

Here in Arizona, it varies based on the exit.  I think ADOT prefers a horizontal orientation for the urban program, but there are many vertical installations as well (Loop 202, one of the more recent Phoenix area freeways to get logo signs installed, is all vertical).  Rural 6-panel logo signs, on the other hand, are always vertical.  I presume the reason for making the rural spec signs vertical is due to the rural logo panels being wider than the urban spec panels (rural mainline panels are 60x36", while urban mainline panels are 48x36").  Older rural panels for gas services are also 48x36", but new installations in the rural program use 60x36" panels for all service types.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: Mohkfry on October 21, 2015, 12:07:02 AM
I've seen them installed both ways in Indiana. Couldn't tell you what is more dominant because I've never given it any thought or very much attention.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: peterj920 on October 21, 2015, 12:30:23 AM
Wisconsin is Vertical.  When there are 3 businesses advertised for Food and Gas for example, the businesses are listed vertically for Food on one side and Gas for the other with a white line splitting down the middle.   Sometimes with 4 services listed, it will be listed vertically also.  Here's an example:

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.376615,-87.926162,3a,75y,1.7h,74.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdDyRopExp8yKvPw_kwCU3Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: roadman on October 21, 2015, 08:48:11 AM
Most LOGO panels in Massachusetts are horizontal, however, vertical panels are used where lateral offset is limited.  Vertical panels are also used in certian cases where multiple services are displayed on a single sign due to spacing restrictions.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 21, 2015, 12:58:12 PM
All of the ones I've seen here in Alabama have been horizontal.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: vdeane on October 21, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
NY is generally horizontal, but I think I've seen a vertical or two somewhere on the Thruway.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: shadyjay on October 21, 2015, 08:03:13 PM
CT uses (mostly/exclusively?) 4-panel logos for service signs and they're all horizontal.  New "attractions" signs are 6 panels and are horizontal.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/21299363903/in/album-72157657102948943/

New service plaza 1/2 mile signs are vertical, however, holding 6 logos.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/21920216045/in/album-72157657102948943/

VT... ha!  It'll be a cold day in hell before there's any logo signs on the interstate, ramp, etc.  And that's a good thing!
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: rarnold on October 21, 2015, 10:02:03 PM
I don't remember seeing a vertical logo sign in Missouri or Iowa, but there might be some new ones in Des Moines where new construction has taken place. All of Iowa and Missouri's older signs are horizontal.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: roadfro on October 22, 2015, 10:29:06 AM
Nevada DOT uses horizontal logo signs.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 22, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
NJDOT: I can't recall seeing anything other than horizontal logo signs.

The NJ Turnpike does have an impressive 1 column vertical tower for 6 hotels coming off Exit 3 though!
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: roadman on October 22, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 22, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
The NJ Turnpike does have an impressive 1 column vertical tower for 6 hotels coming off Exit 3 though!

Some of MassDOT's 6 panel ramp signs are in a similar 1 column vertical format.  I-93 NB at Dascomb Road is a recent example of such signing.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: vdeane on October 22, 2015, 01:24:28 PM
There are also 1 column vertical ones on the Thruway near I-790: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1211415,-75.2285936,3a,75y,106.71h,78.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sStWAl-EQ3IVZWvT4pK5hug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: Pink Jazz on October 22, 2015, 05:21:17 PM
I know that in Virginia there used to be several trailblazer logo signs (for businesses that were located off of the main road from the freeway) that were stacked in tall single columns, and there might still be.  However, I have read somewhere that there were a few complaints about them, so I am not sure if they are still around.  Note that Virginia does not use a blue board for trailblazer signs, the logos are attached directly to the pole with a small arrow panel below them.

BTW, mainline logo boards in Virginia are mostly horizontal, although I think there are some vertical ones as well.  Logo signs in urban areas use 48x36" logos while rural areas use 60x36" except for gas logos which are always 48x36" regardless of whether located in an urban or rural area.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: Pink Jazz on November 20, 2015, 09:14:22 AM
Just as an update, the logo signs on the US 60 Superstition Freeway were installed this week, and it looks like all full 6 panel logo signs were installed vertically.  Loop 202 (which was mostly completed last June) is also all vertical. 

Perhaps ADOT has decided that they will no longer install them horizontally after some horizontal installations on I-10, I-17, and Loop 101.  I'd assume perhaps the reason could be due to width constraints at certain shoulders and gore areas that it is much easier to install them vertically.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on November 21, 2015, 11:33:20 PM
Minnesota's are horizontal, and I can't think of anywhere I've seen an exception to this.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: Pink Jazz on December 03, 2015, 02:44:00 PM
Just wondering, am I correct to assume that all states that use incremental panel signs have horizontal logo signs?  I'd assume it is easier to make incremental panel signs in a horizontal orientation than in a vertical orientation.

Arizona uses extruded panel signs, thus making vertical orientation logo signs is simple.
Title: Re: Full 6-panel logo signs in your state - horizontal or vertical?
Post by: jakeroot on December 03, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: Pink Jazz on December 03, 2015, 02:44:00 PM
Just wondering, am I correct to assume that all states that use incremental panel signs have horizontal logo signs?  I'd assume it is easier to make incremental panel signs in a horizontal orientation than in a vertical orientation.

Washington State uses incremental panel signs. They have vertical logo signs, though both horizontal and vertical are used:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQYQGK4N.png&hash=1bcbd1bc271a695ae9cb80d50f1d8ac3a5a25572)