AARoads Forum

National Boards => General Highway Talk => Traffic Control => Topic started by: Pink Jazz on October 28, 2015, 04:18:33 PM

Title: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: Pink Jazz on October 28, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
While some states allow logo signs in urban areas, usually the only categories you see are Food, Gas, and Lodging, with occasional Attractions.  It is very rare to see the Camping category in an urban area, since nearly all campgrounds are located in rural areas.

I would like to know, does anyone know some rare examples of Camping logo signs in urban areas?

One rare example that I know about is a sign for Encore RV Resorts in Las Vegas at Exit 70 on I-515/US 93/US 95.  Interesting that a campground would be built in the middle of a major metro area.

We have yet to see any Camping logo signs here in the Phoenix urban program, however, once some portions of freeway (specifically I-10 in Goodyear and the US 60 Superstition Freeway east of the SuperRedTan Interchange) are migrated from the rural program to the urban program it remains to be seen if the camping businesses along those portions will keep their signs or not.  The urban rates in Arizona are generally higher than the rural rates, and Camping businesses actually may be eligible for additional discounts that are not offered to other service types in the rural program.  I'm not sure if those discounts exist in the urban program.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: roadfro on October 29, 2015, 02:46:47 AM
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 28, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
I would like to know, does anyone know some rare examples of Camping logo signs in urban areas?

One rare example that I know about is a sign for Encore RV Resorts in Las Vegas at Exit 70 on I-515/US 93/US 95.  Interesting that a campground would be built in the middle of a major metro area.

Potential historical explanation: Exit 70 is Boulder Highway. Boulder Highway is the original highway out of town, towards "old" Henderson and Boulder City. This served as US 93/95 (and old US 466) prior to the construction of current freeway–this section having been constructed in the early to mid 80's. Given the location of the RV park, it was likely that the RV park existed before the city expanded along the highway.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: doorknob60 on October 29, 2015, 05:30:09 PM
Click images for Google Street View

Not a logo on this one, but Powers Rd. on US-97 in Bend lists Camping along with Food, Gas and Lodging.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6MamZyh.png&hash=e51683d40f0651f7bd0861d107aacee5be92dda0) (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.0318294,-121.3134534,3a,75y,211.08h,77.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYQ0aFqUyVPhnX5VG74fQmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Reed Market Rd. does too (I'd forgotten about this one)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeRmqII5.png&hash=e54e131cec12f900d0f95ad818a8e4ca233aa924) (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.0341836,-121.3125744,3a,37.5y,16.97h,84.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sguccgCGIulDpauUATuJaUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Signage is poor once you actually exit (it points you in one direction after you exit and that's all you get), so I can only assume they're talking about Scandia RV Park near Powers and Bus-97, or maybe Crown Villa RV Resort on Brosterhous and Murphy, but good luck finding that one with just the signs.

I can confirm that those are probably the ones they're referring to, because farther south from there, an actual logo sign appeared at the stop light with US-97 and Bus-97. Why they're redundantly listed? I don't know...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FosFsb8h.png&hash=4048863d0f7fdbcef9261c35bc2b7c73286f6ca2) (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.019518,-121.3189967,3a,75y,195.12h,78.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVTKvjcbUhLKvTG8MIPXrQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Note that this intersection has been completely redone (more like removed, in this direction), and I don't remember what it looks like now. I think the actual logo signs form the third picture were moved north to the Powers intersection, but I can't say for sure. Not sure what it looks like northbound (probably less has changed in that direction).
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: Pink Jazz on October 29, 2015, 10:31:20 PM
Not really a major urban area, but I guess it counts.  There are a few Camping signs in Flagstaff, Arizona as well.  Flagstaff has long been part of the state's rural logo sign program, but is currently in the process of being migrated over to the urban program in terms of sign pricing.  The same will be done for Yuma, as well as some of the outer suburbs of Phoenix that I mentioned in my OP.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: Pete from Boston on October 29, 2015, 10:56:12 PM
I cannot think of camping that is genuinely within an urban area in the United States. In Canada I've encountered this a number of times. Saint John, New Brunswick, for example, has tent camping in a large city park a mile from downtown. But this is not a thing that Americans do, at least in the Northeast.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: CtrlAltDel on October 29, 2015, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 29, 2015, 10:56:12 PM
I cannot think of camping that is genuinely within an urban area in the United States. In Canada I've encountered this a number of times. Saint John, New Brunswick, for example, has tent camping in a large city park a mile from downtown. But this is not a thing that Americans do, at least in the Northeast.

Well, there's Lefleur's Bluff State Park. It's a forest, but the forest borders on Jackson MS. Then there's also, Miller Riverview Park in Dubuque, which is in the city limits, but a bit off the beaten path.

Not sure if you'd count any of those, but I thought I'd throw them out there.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: cpzilliacus on October 30, 2015, 06:23:14 PM
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 28, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
I would like to know, does anyone know some rare examples of Camping logo signs in urban areas?

I think I have seen them pointing the campground in Greenbelt Park (National Park Service park) in Greenbelt, Maryland (but not where they would be most-useful, on I-95 (Capital Beltway), which brushes the northeast corner of the park).

I have also seen camping signs for a KOA campground on nearby freeways in Anne Arundel County, Maryland on I-97 and Md. 32.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: jakeroot on October 30, 2015, 09:28:05 PM
BC posts camping on most of their logo signs, if applicable. Here are a couple in Vancouver, neither more than 25 miles from the city centre.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ftns89mA.png&hash=1206649a3d2e8c461dbdf9a3dc10a0ebc72c649e)  (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FU8S4Ty7.png&hash=fddfa516d61ecd7006d69cd146887c655fdc7dd0)
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: roadfro on October 31, 2015, 01:56:45 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 30, 2015, 09:28:05 PM
BC posts camping on most of their logo signs, if applicable. Here are a couple in Vancouver, neither more than 25 miles from the city centre.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ftns89mA.png&hash=1206649a3d2e8c461dbdf9a3dc10a0ebc72c649e)  (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FU8S4Ty7.png&hash=fddfa516d61ecd7006d69cd146887c655fdc7dd0)

These are general service signs. Logo signs (technically called "specific service signs" in the MUTCD) actually have panels with individual business' logos on them.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: jakeroot on October 31, 2015, 03:01:18 AM
Quote from: roadfro on October 31, 2015, 01:56:45 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 30, 2015, 09:28:05 PM
BC posts camping on most of their logo signs, if applicable. Here are a couple in Vancouver, neither more than 25 miles from the city centre.

These are general service signs. Logo signs (technically called "specific service signs" in the MUTCD) actually have panels with individual business' logos on them.

I, personally, wasn't going to discount BC's advertisements of urban campgrounds just because they don't have a wide-spread logo sign program (outside of their tourist attraction signs). But, if that's what Pink Jazz wants, that's fine with me.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: Kacie Jane on November 01, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
Jake, there's one closer to home on I-5 for the KOA on Orillia Road/212th in Kent.  Somewhat more suburban, but given the way Kent is growing (and that it's across from industrial/manufacturing areas), it probably qualifies.
Title: Re: Camping logo signs in urban areas?
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 01, 2015, 08:47:00 PM
Is Wildwood, Florida urban enough for you? I know there's a KOA off of FL 44 east of I-75 there, and they have signs for that.

Ocala definitely has some campgrounds nearby, but I forget whether there are signs for them or not.