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Title: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: HurrMark on November 20, 2015, 12:18:43 PM
Besides Phoenix, I was wondering what the largest US city (I am talking city limits proper, not metro) without a 3DI running through it. My guess is Boston, but I am not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: empirestate on November 20, 2015, 12:35:33 PM

Quote from: HurrMark on November 20, 2015, 12:18:43 PM
Besides Phoenix, I was wondering what the largest US city (I am talking city limits proper, not metro) without a 3DI running through it. My guess is Boston, but I am not 100% sure.

And referring to population within the city limits, not area, I presume?

Also, are you including cities with no 2di's either? So, no Fresno? (Which I think is a bit smaller than Boston anyway.)

Also also, what if there is a 3di in the metro but it doesn't enter city limits?

All that said and done, Austin.


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Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: jbnati27 on November 20, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
A few I was able to come up with quickly:

Austin TX
Albuquerque NM
Winston-Salem NC
Durham NC

Some smaller cities:
Lexington KY - has sort of an outer belt ((not so) New Circle Rd / KY 4)
Charleston WV - state capital with 3 - 2DI, but no 3DI
In Dayton OH, I-675 never goes through the city limits
Does I-485 ever enter the Charlotte NC city limits?
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: Henry on November 20, 2015, 12:58:48 PM
I can think of a few examples:

Montgomery, AL (at least until I-685 is signed)
Tucson, AZ
Bakersfield, CA
Sacramento, CA (I-305 does not count)
Colorado Springs, CO
Pueblo, CO
Bridgeport, CT
Orlando, FL
Tallahassee, FL
Rockford, IL
Springfield, IL
Elkhart, IN
South Bend, IN
Rochester, MN
Joplin, MO
Billings, MT
Las Cruces, NM
Binghamton, NY
Fargo, ND
Grand Forks, ND
Canton, OH
Erie, PA
Amarillo, TX
Laredo, TX
Lubbock, TX
Montpelier, VT
Petersburg, VA
Spokane, WA
Madison, WI
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: empirestate on November 20, 2015, 01:39:29 PM
So...Austin?


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Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: Katavia on November 20, 2015, 01:43:13 PM
Quote from: jbnati27 on November 20, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
Does I-485 ever enter the Charlotte NC city limits?

I-277.
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: jbnati27 on November 20, 2015, 01:44:59 PM
Quote from: Katavia on November 20, 2015, 01:43:13 PM
Quote from: jbnati27 on November 20, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
Does I-485 ever enter the Charlotte NC city limits?

I-277.
Oh yeah, duh!! I knew that one! Thanks for keeping me honest!  :pan:
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: empirestate on November 20, 2015, 03:59:17 PM

Quote from: jbnati27 on November 20, 2015, 01:44:59 PM
Quote from: Katavia on November 20, 2015, 01:43:13 PM
Quote from: jbnati27 on November 20, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
Does I-485 ever enter the Charlotte NC city limits?

I-277.
Oh yeah, duh!! I knew that one! Thanks for keeping me honest!  :pan:

Anyway, Charlotte is smaller than Austin. :)


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Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: Captain Jack on December 14, 2015, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: Henry on November 20, 2015, 12:58:48 PM
I can think of a few examples:

Montgomery, AL (at least until I-685 is signed)
Tucson, AZ
Bakersfield, CA
Sacramento, CA (I-305 does not count)
Colorado Springs, CO
Pueblo, CO
Bridgeport, CT
Orlando, FL
Tallahassee, FL
Rockford, IL
Springfield, IL
Elkhart, IN
South Bend, IN
Rochester, MN
Joplin, MO
Billings, MT
Las Cruces, NM
Binghamton, NY
Fargo, ND
Grand Forks, ND
Canton, OH
Erie, PA
Amarillo, TX
Laredo, TX
Lubbock, TX
Montpelier, VT
Petersburg, VA
Spokane, WA
Madison, WI

Evansville, IN can now be added to the list.
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: GaryV on December 14, 2015, 09:24:34 PM
Sterling Heights, MI (131k)
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: empirestate on December 14, 2015, 10:20:02 PM

Quote from: GaryV on December 14, 2015, 09:24:34 PM
Sterling Heights, MI (131k)

That's way smaller than Austin.


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Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: Brandon on December 14, 2015, 11:03:57 PM
The largest municipality in Illinois that would qualify is Aurora, which is also the second largest in the state (199,000).
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: empirestate on December 14, 2015, 11:12:20 PM

Quote from: Brandon on December 14, 2015, 11:03:57 PM
The largest municipality in Illinois that would qualify is Aurora, which is also the second largest in the state (199,000).

How does that qualify? The largest city with no 3dis, besides Phoenix, is Austin. There's no ambiguity that I can see. Did I miss something; are we going state-by-state now or something?


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Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: GaryV on December 15, 2015, 06:26:58 AM
Quote from: empirestate on December 14, 2015, 10:20:02 PM

Quote from: GaryV on December 14, 2015, 09:24:34 PM
Sterling Heights, MI (131k)

That's way smaller than Austin.

Of course - but it's bigger than several of those on Henry's list.
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: dgolub on December 15, 2015, 08:40:10 AM
I don't think anyone has yet mentioned New Haven, CT.
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on December 15, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
Quote from: empirestate on December 14, 2015, 11:12:20 PM

Quote from: Brandon on December 14, 2015, 11:03:57 PM
The largest municipality in Illinois that would qualify is Aurora, which is also the second largest in the state (199,000).

How does that qualify? The largest city with no 3dis, besides Phoenix, is Austin. There's no ambiguity that I can see. Did I miss something; are we going state-by-state now or something.

We always end up going on a state-by-state level because it prolongs the discussion. Otherwise this thread would have been over at post 2 or 3.
Title: Re: Largest cities without a 3DI
Post by: empirestate on December 15, 2015, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on December 15, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
Quote from: empirestate on December 14, 2015, 11:12:20 PM

Quote from: Brandon on December 14, 2015, 11:03:57 PM
The largest municipality in Illinois that would qualify is Aurora, which is also the second largest in the state (199,000).

How does that qualify? The largest city with no 3dis, besides Phoenix, is Austin. There's no ambiguity that I can see. Did I miss something; are we going state-by-state now or something.

We always end up going on a state-by-state level because it prolongs the discussion. Otherwise this thread would have been over at post 2 or 3.

OK, I can see that, though I missed the transition this time. What I was not understanding are the long lists of entries for a question with only one answer–and one that had already been given. I'm always happy to prolong the discussion, but I don't even know what we're talking about any more!  :pan: