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Title: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: mwb1848 on November 27, 2015, 11:16:32 AM
Decades ago, when US 90 was relocated from its long-standing two-lane alignment northward to its current divided four-lane alignment through Jackson County, Miss., SH 57 was slightly truncated so state maintenance would end at the 4-lane US 90 rather than the 2-lane old road.

This assembly, which has been around since 1985, is photographed looking northward from the truncated part of SH 57. The assembly is ancient and it's the only place I've ever seen the arrow accompanying the US 90 shield. Were they once a standard tool to alert drivers that they're entering a divided highway, or is this a one-off MDOT job?

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Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: US71 on November 27, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
I'm guessing it's a one-off. I have several MUTCD's and don't recall ever seeing that arrow.
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: txstateends on November 28, 2015, 01:48:22 PM
Interesting way of describing the route choices at a divided-highway intersection.  At first glance, it almost looks like a route that has a quick zig-zag in it, but would probably be more aptly interpreted like the current divided-highway sign seen with stop signs at intersections like the one in the pic.
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: hbelkins on November 28, 2015, 07:17:24 PM
Kentucky uses the R6-3 and R-63a marker. I've never seen this arrow but I like it.
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: mwb1848 on December 15, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
Turns out, that US 90/Mississippi 57 arrow isn't exactly a one-off. I just ran across another application using the arrow at Mississippi 4 and Mississippi 15 in Ripley, Mississippi:

https://goo.gl/maps/7mqssMEeePy

Unlike the example in South Mississippi, this example does indicate a one-block jog in the route of Mississippi 4
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: froggie on December 16, 2015, 10:06:24 AM
A similar type of arrow (with a slight jog) also existed at the VA 178/VA 180 junction on Virginia's Eastern Shore.  Not sure if it's still there.
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: ModernDayWarrior on December 16, 2015, 07:22:06 PM
I know I've seen one of these in Missouri somewhere, but I can't remember where.
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: noelbotevera on December 16, 2015, 08:05:06 PM
That arrow is confusing...so does MS 57 briefly multiplex with US 90, or does it end here and US 90 is straight, right, and left?
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: Big John on December 16, 2015, 08:12:36 PM
^^ MS 57 ends at US 90, which itself is a divided roadway.
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: mwb1848 on December 17, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
...which is what makes the other use of this arrow so interesting. Apparently, sometimes it indicates a divided highway, sometimes it evidences a very brief multiplex.
Title: Re: Was this arrow ever in the MUTCD?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on December 17, 2015, 04:29:25 PM
You can also find this arrow on Pine County Road 61 (old US 61) near Sturgeon Lake, MN where it intersects County Road 46. 46 has the slight jog along 61.