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Title: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 17, 2015, 05:02:32 PM
I noticed the other day that off I-89 in Warner, New Hampshire, a sign at the end of the ramp said "Lodging" with an arrow and a distance of 7 miles. That seemed unusually far from the road by northeastern standards. What is the highest mileage on one of the signs that you have seen?

I'm talking about official service signs, not privately-erected advertisements for Rock City or something like that where they are posted all over a quarter of the country.
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on December 17, 2015, 05:06:10 PM
I think rural roads have much looser standards for these kind of things; I've seen little blue signs advertising services 12-15 miles away off some Minnesota highways (not Interstates).
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: roadman on December 17, 2015, 05:07:43 PM
Longest distance for a service I'm aware of in Massachusetts is Southwick Zoo, which is on Attractions signs on I-495 and is 9 miles from the highway.  MassHighway/MassDOT kept denying the request until the Legislature passed a law (Chapter 312 of the Acts of 2010) requiring that MassDOT install the signs.
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: AlexandriaVA on December 17, 2015, 05:08:18 PM
My mom's rule for out-of-town driving has always been if you can't see the business (or it's really tall sign) from the freeway, then it might as well not exist. I find myself agreeing with this axiom.
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 17, 2015, 05:08:37 PM

Quote from: roadman on December 17, 2015, 05:07:43 PM
Longest distance for a service I'm aware of in Massachusetts is Southwick Zoo, which is on Attractions signs on I-495 and is 9 miles from the highway.  MassHighway/MassDOT kept denying the request until the Legislature passed a law (Chapter 310 of the Acts of 2010) requiring that MassDOT install the signs.

Was an Act passed specifically regarding Southwick's Zoo?
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 17, 2015, 05:09:45 PM

Quote from: AlexandriaVA on December 17, 2015, 05:08:18 PM
My mom's rule for out-of-town driving has always been if you can't see the business (or it's really tall sign) from the freeway, then it might as well not exist. I find myself agreeing with this axiom.

My rule is, the places immediately adjacent to the highway more often than not tend to be the crappiest.
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on December 17, 2015, 05:10:52 PM
I remember seeing a 72 km (45 miles) once :sombrero:. But I'm not sure if it was off the road or continuing on the road.
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: roadman on December 17, 2015, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on December 17, 2015, 05:06:10 PM
I think rural roads have much looser standards for these kind of things; I've seen little blue signs advertising services 12-15 miles away off some Minnesota highways (not Interstates).

The MUTCD has a provision that the 3 mile limit for services can be extended by 3 mile increments, up to a maximum of 15 miles, in cases where there aren't eligible faclities within the limit, or where facilites within the limit choose not to participate in the services signing program.  Some states, such as Massachusetts, do not recognize this provision in their signing policies and consider the 3 mile limit as an absolute rule.
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: noelbotevera on December 17, 2015, 05:16:58 PM
Off I-19 in AZ, food is 15 miles away. I don't remember where the sign was, as I saw it on a road's website (probably alpsroads).
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: roadman on December 17, 2015, 05:18:15 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 17, 2015, 05:08:37 PM

Quote from: roadman on December 17, 2015, 05:07:43 PM
Longest distance for a service I'm aware of in Massachusetts is Southwick Zoo, which is on Attractions signs on I-495 and is 9 miles from the highway.  MassHighway/MassDOT kept denying the request until the Legislature passed a law (Chapter 310 of the Acts of 2010) requiring that MassDOT install the signs.

Was an Act passed specifically regarding Southwick's Zoo?

Yes

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Chapter 312 AN ACT AUTHORIZING THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO ERECT CERTAIN SIGNS REGARDING THE SOUTHWICK ZOO.
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Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court assembled, and by the authority of the same as follows:

Notwithstanding any general or special law, rule or regulation to the contrary, the Department of Transportation may erect tourist attraction signs regarding the Southwick Zoo on interstate highway route 495 at exits 19 and 20, northbound and southbound, in the town of Milford.
Title: Re: Farthest-from-road signed services
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 17, 2015, 05:42:06 PM
Wow, I guess it's good to have friends on Beacon Hill.