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Title: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: SD Mapman on December 23, 2015, 01:32:37 AM
So I was in Rapid City today, and I noticed that the last 1/10 of a mile or so on I-190 had sidewalks on both sides.

GMSV:https://www.google.com/maps/@44.0851026,-103.2337902,3a,75y,284.82h,73.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPak0Tq76McEx0lsv3sVqDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.0851026,-103.2337902,3a,75y,284.82h,73.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPak0Tq76McEx0lsv3sVqDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (they put in the other side last year, and the StreetView car hasn't been in the area to see it)

Is there any other interstate where this happens?
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: oscar on December 23, 2015, 03:58:35 AM
East end of Interstate H-1, for a very short distance between the WB off-ramp/EB on-ramp for exit 27, and the at-grade intersection with Ainakoa Ave.

Also some of the non-freeway paper Interstates in Alaska and Puerto Rico, which aren't required to meet normal Interstate design standards.

Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 23, 2015, 06:09:00 AM
As far of the I-95 Scudders Falls Bridge project, they will be building a sidewalk/bicycle path across the Delaware. This will be separated from I-95 by a jersey barrier.
Title: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 23, 2015, 07:05:00 AM
George Washington Bridge has them grandfathered in.  I-291 in Connecticut has a multi-use path on one side.

I feel like this thread already exists.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: froggie on December 23, 2015, 07:19:56 AM
The Freeways with Bike Trails (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11188.0) thread comes close...
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: Rothman on December 23, 2015, 09:36:11 AM
There's are sidewalks on the I-66 bridge over the Potomac.  I took the wrong one once and ended up running across the GW Parkway to the Theodore Roosevelt memorial.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: dgolub on December 23, 2015, 09:49:13 AM
I-84 has a pedestrian/bike path at the Newburgh-Beacon Bridge.  There are also a whole batch of parkways in New York with bike paths.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: GCrites on December 23, 2015, 10:04:51 AM
Several places in New York City have them. And I'm not just talking about places where Interstates travel on city streets.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: AlexandriaVA on December 23, 2015, 10:06:31 AM
Interstate 180 in Cheyenne, Wyoming, although that's a really unorthodox Interstate:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cheyenne,+WY/@41.127322,-104.8096942,3a,75y,76.15h,69.81t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saJMmEgBe_V397Ucp1WcInA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DaJMmEgBe_V397Ucp1WcInA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D142.73735%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x876f38762e73ef93:0xb10a30418f972d2b!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: AlexandriaVA on December 23, 2015, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: Rothman on December 23, 2015, 09:36:11 AM
There's are sidewalks on the I-66 bridge over the Potomac.  I took the wrong one once and ended up running across the GW Parkway to the Theodore Roosevelt memorial.

14th Street Bridge (I-395) as well:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8750416,-77.0430146,3a,75y,293.19h,77.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjQeY0aEp9TKQ5OjX-IDyKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: AlexandriaVA on December 23, 2015, 10:10:11 AM
495/95 across Wilson Bridge:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7930442,-77.0310114,3a,75y,6.01h,74.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbvYI40NR98c6Jls8eGAfXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: signalman on December 23, 2015, 10:55:38 AM
I-80 across the Delaware River on the eastbound side.  This is also where the Appalachian Trail crosses the river.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 23, 2015, 10:55:54 AM
There are sidewalks on one of the overpasses on I-295 in Portland, Maine.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: jp the roadgeek on December 23, 2015, 11:11:43 AM
Ben Franklin Bridge (I-676) has a pedestrian walkway. 
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: Mr_Northside on December 23, 2015, 03:27:32 PM
Both the Ft. Pitt (I-376) & Ft. Duquesne (I-279) bridges have sidewalks.  They're built on the outer side of the piers (and the Ft. Duquesne Bridge one is a lot nicer)
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: Rick Powell on December 23, 2015, 03:36:42 PM
I-494 across the Minnesota River has a separated bike/ped trail crossing on the south side of the bridge.  The trail extends about a mile in each direction from the bridge along I-494, where it then connects to local accesses.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: NE2 on December 23, 2015, 06:31:30 PM
OH MY GOD BRIDGES HAVE SIDEWALKS
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: brycecordry on December 23, 2015, 07:52:09 PM
The brand-new Daniel Boone Bridge over the Missouri River on Highway 40 (I-64) in Chesterfield, MO will have them as soon as they can get them tied in to the two trails on either side of the river.

Also, the Memphis & Arkansas Bridge has sidewalks, but they no longer connect to anything.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: jakeroot on December 23, 2015, 07:58:44 PM
Bridges usually have sidewalks, folks. At least in my area, they do.

The point of this thread should be to showcase sidewalks along interstates that aren't passing over a bridge. Lots of bridges have sidewalks.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: Rick Powell on December 23, 2015, 10:31:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 23, 2015, 07:58:44 PM
Bridges usually have sidewalks, folks. At least in my area, they do.

The point of this thread should be to showcase sidewalks along interstates that aren't passing over a bridge. Lots of bridges have sidewalks.

The aforementioned I-494 trail is mostly on land, with a bridge crossing in the middle, but the trail no doubt wouldn't have had a purpose without the bridge crossing.

FWIW, there are several miles of one-way frontage roads along the Chicago expressways (especially the Dan Ryan, I-57 and the Ike), and nearly all of them have some sort of sidewalk accommodation on them, much closer to the freeway than they would be in a rural section with no frontage road.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: Buffaboy on December 24, 2015, 02:07:42 AM
I-190 North and South Grand Island Bridges have sidewalks on both sides.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: odditude on December 24, 2015, 10:27:37 AM
the replacement Scudder Falls Bridge (I-95/future I-295 PA/NJ) will have pedestrian and bicycle accommodations.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: jakeroot on December 24, 2015, 02:57:59 PM
Alright, pardon the thread jacking, but...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcwSDZrX.png&hash=3538750c89a30600ac1b4214213a5e2023fc8dcd)

...are there any freeways that have sidewalks like this? (NOT crossing over a bridge??)
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: oscar on December 24, 2015, 03:07:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 24, 2015, 02:57:59 PM
...are there any freeways that have sidewalks like this? (NOT crossing over a bridge??)

The first two posts above involve (probably the first, definitely the second) sidewalks next to travel lanes and which are not on bridges.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: jakeroot on December 24, 2015, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 24, 2015, 03:07:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 24, 2015, 02:57:59 PM
...are there any freeways that have sidewalks like this? (NOT crossing over a bridge??)

The first two posts above involve (probably the first, definitely the second) sidewalks next to travel lanes and which are not on bridges.

And those are very good examples. But this thread seems to be all about bridges. I'm fairly certain that SD Mapman (who needs to pipe in here and control his thread) meant sidewalks next to freeways that are not on bridges.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 24, 2015, 10:47:27 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 23, 2015, 07:58:44 PM
Bridges usually have sidewalks, folks. At least in my area, they do.

The point of this thread should be to showcase sidewalks along interstates that aren't passing over a bridge. Lots of bridges have sidewalks.

At least on the East Coast, it's relatively rare for a freeway overpass to have sidewalks. The sidewalks that I mentioned in Portland actually seem to be a pedestrian connection between two exists.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: bzakharin on December 24, 2015, 10:59:22 PM
Depending on how you define I-676, This may be an example:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Philadelphia,+PA/@39.9560216,-75.1491512,3a,75y,188.53h,73.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3kOrM4MC8N4aJvP6YM4rxQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D3kOrM4MC8N4aJvP6YM4rxQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D124.08789%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6b7d8d4b54beb:0x89f514d88c3e58c1!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: noelbotevera on December 24, 2015, 11:20:47 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on December 24, 2015, 10:59:22 PM
Depending on how you define I-676, This may be an example:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Philadelphia,+PA/@39.9560216,-75.1491512,3a,75y,188.53h,73.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3kOrM4MC8N4aJvP6YM4rxQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D3kOrM4MC8N4aJvP6YM4rxQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D124.08789%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6b7d8d4b54beb:0x89f514d88c3e58c1!6m1!1e1
No, that is not I-676. Google is wrong - that is unnumbered Callowhill Street.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: NE2 on December 24, 2015, 11:50:07 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on December 24, 2015, 11:20:47 PM
No, that is not I-676. Google is wrong - that is unnumbered Callowhill Street.
You are wrong. That is I-676 (but not SR 0676).
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: SD Mapman on December 25, 2015, 06:06:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 24, 2015, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 24, 2015, 03:07:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 24, 2015, 02:57:59 PM
...are there any freeways that have sidewalks like this? (NOT crossing over a bridge??)

The first two posts above involve (probably the first, definitely the second) sidewalks next to travel lanes and which are not on bridges.

And those are very good examples. But this thread seems to be all about bridges. I'm fairly certain that SD Mapman (who needs to pipe in here and control his thread) meant sidewalks next to freeways that are not on bridges.
Hey, it's Christmas. I've been busy.

Yes, that is what I meant originally, just for clarification.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: cl94 on December 27, 2015, 12:53:41 AM
You're not going to get many of those unless you include shared-use paths.

That being said, the new Tappan Zee Bridge will have a path on the SB span. I don't picture many people using the entire thing on foot due to length. I-84 has one on the Newburgh-Beacon Bridge. I-278 has them on the Triboro.

If we're including paths on land separated from the expressway by only a Jersey barrier, I-190 in Buffalo has one either immediately adjacent or down an embankment near the Peace Bridge and again between NY 198 and NY 325, plus the aforementioned bridges.

Of course, if you included 400-series highways, the Peace Bridge and Rainbow Bridge have sidewalks, the Peace Bridge having no form of physical separation other than the curb.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: Alps on December 27, 2015, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 24, 2015, 11:50:07 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on December 24, 2015, 11:20:47 PM
No, that is not I-676. Google is wrong - that is unnumbered Callowhill Street.
You are wrong. That is I-676 (but not SR 0676).
My understanding is that I-676 (NJ) ends at the state line and I-676 (PA) ends at I-95.
Title: Re: Sidewalks on Interstates
Post by: Kacie Jane on December 27, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on December 24, 2015, 11:20:47 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on December 24, 2015, 10:59:22 PM
Depending on how you define I-676, This may be an example:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Philadelphia,+PA/@39.9560216,-75.1491512,3a,75y,188.53h,73.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3kOrM4MC8N4aJvP6YM4rxQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D3kOrM4MC8N4aJvP6YM4rxQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D124.08789%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6b7d8d4b54beb:0x89f514d88c3e58c1!6m1!1e1
No, that is not I-676. Google is wrong - that is unnumbered Callowhill Street.

Regardless of what highway it is (or isn't), it's 6th Street, not Callowhill.

Quote from: Alps on December 27, 2015, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 24, 2015, 11:50:07 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on December 24, 2015, 11:20:47 PM
No, that is not I-676. Google is wrong - that is unnumbered Callowhill Street.
You are wrong. That is I-676 (but not SR 0676).
My understanding is that I-676 (NJ) ends at the state line and I-676 (PA) ends at I-95.

It probably depends on who (and what) you listen to.  That probably matches PennDOT logs, but their own signage (I'm assuming it's theirs, might be DRPA) unambiguously sends I-676 down 6th to the bridge.