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Title: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: Stephane Dumas on December 29, 2015, 09:39:21 PM
We knew then vikings explored the eastern shore of Canada. Now after archeological discoveries, we might learn then some romans had explored it as well.
http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/161574
http://www.newhistorian.com/historians-claim-ancient-romans-visited-canada/5664/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/history/628827/ANCIENT-ROMANS-America-eerie-discovery-change-history
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/sword-discovered-off-nova-scotias-oak-island-195223301.html
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on December 29, 2015, 10:41:21 PM
I'm not saying the idea of Romans visiting Canada is impossible, but I think it's also too soon to rule out yet that these may have been Roman objects obtained and brought there by the Vikings, whom we already know visited and briefly lived in eastern Canada and were much more seagoing than the Romans were.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: dcbjms on December 30, 2015, 10:58:58 AM
I can believe it.  Those Portuguese and Basque fishermen must have known how to get there, somehow.  Not to mention the Irish legend of the island of Hy-Breasil (or was that Tir na Nog?  I knew that Hy-Breasil was supposed to match Newfoundland in terms of its unusual weather features).
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: NE2 on December 30, 2015, 11:13:28 AM
No no no. Ancient aliens.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: triplemultiplex on December 30, 2015, 08:17:27 PM
It was Moroni.
:-D
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: yakra on December 31, 2015, 01:25:32 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 30, 2015, 11:13:28 AM
No no no. Ancient aliens.
Your explanation for anything slightly peculiar is aliens, isn't it? You lose your keys, it's aliens. A picture falls off the wall, it's aliens. That time we used up a whole bog roll in a day, you thought that was aliens as well.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: english si on December 31, 2015, 06:51:01 AM
Quote from: yakra on December 31, 2015, 01:25:32 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 30, 2015, 11:13:28 AM
No no no. Ancient aliens.
Your explanation for anything slightly peculiar is aliens, isn't it? You lose your keys, it's aliens. A picture falls off the wall, it's aliens. That time we used up a whole bog roll in a day, you thought that was aliens as well.
He's merely copying the History Channel, Stephen Spielburg, etc from a few years ago.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: Road Hog on December 31, 2015, 09:07:18 AM
I think it's very possible that a Roman ship might have been caught in a storm, the crew got disoriented, and the ship wound up in Nova Scotia by accident with the crew dead or alive. I highly doubt any widespread Roman effort to explore the Western Hemisphere took place; otherwise the historical record would show it.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: english si on December 31, 2015, 09:25:48 AM
Quote from: Road Hog on December 31, 2015, 09:07:18 AMI highly doubt any widespread Roman effort to explore the Western Hemisphere took place
I was waiting for some numpty to say something similar!

I take it that according to you, the following weren't Roman:
Hadrians Wall, Verulamium, Silchester, the Roman Road a couple of hundred yards from my house...

Not to mention the roads and settlements in western France, all but the eastern tip of Spain, Portugal, Morocco, parts of Algeria - are they all illusions too?


And, of course, to a Roman, everywhere west of Rome (the centre of the world) was in the western hemisphere!
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 10:21:39 AM
English si is an anal assclown.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: english si on December 31, 2015, 11:04:21 AM
Well when you've always lived in a (very large and highly populated) area whose existence is repeatedly denied on this forum (non-American Western Hemisphere) you feel you have to be an anal assclown to try and bash it into people's small minds that the place where you live actually exists.

If by "Western Hemisphere" you mean "The Americas" then why go with the incorrect one with more letters?
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 01:54:43 PM
The anal Western Hemisphere has no real world relevance at all, due to the Prime Meridian's arbitrary location.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: english si on December 31, 2015, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 01:54:43 PMThe anal Western Hemisphere has no real world relevance at all, due to the Prime Meridian's arbitrary location.
Absolutely, so why do people keep on using the term when they really mean "The Americas"?
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: vdeane on December 31, 2015, 02:20:12 PM
Probably because "Eastern Hemisphere" is shorter than "the places that aren't North or South America" and to be consistent with the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: Rothman on December 31, 2015, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: english si on December 31, 2015, 11:04:21 AM
Well when you've always lived in a (very large and highly populated) area whose existence is repeatedly denied on this forum (non-American Western Hemisphere) you feel you have to be an anal assclown to try and bash it into people's small minds that the place where you live actually exists.

You should be grateful we are sensitive to your illusion that there is somewhere else to live than on the American Continent.  We're happy to let you believe in your Neverland.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 31, 2015, 04:57:21 PM

Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 10:21:39 AM
English si is an anal assclown.

Such a sweetheart.


Quote from: english si on December 31, 2015, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 01:54:43 PMThe anal Western Hemisphere has no real world relevance at all, due to the Prime Meridian's arbitrary location.
Absolutely, so why do people keep on using the term when they really mean "The Americas"?

The same reason summer is from the last week of May until the first week of September–life doesn't really follow orderly boundaries.
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: The Nature Boy on January 01, 2016, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 31, 2015, 04:57:21 PM

Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 10:21:39 AM
English si is an anal assclown.

Such a sweetheart.


Quote from: english si on December 31, 2015, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 01:54:43 PMThe anal Western Hemisphere has no real world relevance at all, due to the Prime Meridian's arbitrary location.
Absolutely, so why do people keep on using the term when they really mean "The Americas"?

The same reason summer is from the last week of May until the first week of September–life doesn't really follow orderly boundaries.

No one ever includes Southeastern cities when they say "East Coast." Richmond and Charleston are on the geographic east coast, after all. Why don't people just say "Northeast?"

When people use geographic terms, they tend to be less than well........accurate. You don't see Southerners attacking everyone for excluding them from the "East Coast."
Title: Re: Ancient Romans visited Canada
Post by: Pete from Boston on January 01, 2016, 11:18:20 AM

Quote from: The Nature Boy on January 01, 2016, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 31, 2015, 04:57:21 PM

Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 10:21:39 AM
English si is an anal assclown.

Such a sweetheart.


Quote from: english si on December 31, 2015, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2015, 01:54:43 PMThe anal Western Hemisphere has no real world relevance at all, due to the Prime Meridian's arbitrary location.
Absolutely, so why do people keep on using the term when they really mean "The Americas"?

The same reason summer is from the last week of May until the first week of September–life doesn't really follow orderly boundaries.

No one ever includes Southeastern cities when they say "East Coast." Richmond and Charleston are on the geographic east coast, after all. Why don't people just say "Northeast?"

When people use geographic terms, they tend to be less than well........accurate. You don't see Southerners attacking everyone for excluding them from the "East Coast."

Much like Arizona, New Mexico, and Southern California are all south of Richmond and yet for historical reasons are never part of "The South."