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Title: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: US71 on January 04, 2016, 11:59:04 AM

High alkalai content  (http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2016/jan/03/concrete-cracking-is-linked-to-alkali-2/?f=news-arkansas) has led to median barrier damage along I-49 and may affect other Arkansas roads as well.
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: Jardine on January 04, 2016, 02:03:20 PM
I don't think the Romans had that problem.

:)
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: US71 on January 04, 2016, 06:05:27 PM
Quote from: Jardine on January 04, 2016, 02:03:20 PM
I don't think the Romans had that problem.

:)
Their water sources probably weren't as gacked up as the Arkansas River is.
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: noelbotevera on January 04, 2016, 06:17:43 PM
So pretty much, this is AHTD's fault because they were dumb enough to think that using Alkali would extend the life of concrete? Can't Arkansas use asphalt, or will it make the problem worse?
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: US71 on January 04, 2016, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on January 04, 2016, 06:17:43 PM
So pretty much, this is AHTD's fault because they were dumb enough to think that using Alkali would extend the life of concrete? Can't Arkansas use asphalt, or will it make the problem worse?

No. It's mostly a bad chemical reaction with the Arkansas River sand.
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: cjk374 on January 07, 2016, 07:23:50 PM
LA DOTD ran into the same problem on a stretch between MP 93 & the Lincoln/Ouachita Parish line. The rock used by the contractor to make the concrete came from Kentucky. It was too alkaline and the concrete was breaking apart in less than 5 years. Putting hotmix over that has lead to at least 2 or 3 repaving jobs since then (it was the mid 90s when the new concrete was poured).
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: TXtoNJ on January 07, 2016, 11:48:59 PM
Chicken manure from the Tyson plants?
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: SteveG1988 on January 08, 2016, 08:03:47 AM
There is that bridge over the LA river that is crumbling from the same reaction.
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: US71 on January 08, 2016, 10:54:43 AM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on January 07, 2016, 11:48:59 PM
Chicken manure from the Tyson plants?
Possible. They've been cited in the past for dumping.
Title: Re: High Alkali content affects I-49 and other Arkansas Roads
Post by: bjrush on January 09, 2016, 02:46:49 PM
This isn't really AHTD's fault. Sometimes the fine aggregate just has a high alkali content. You can't use asphalt for a median barrier.

The same thing happened with XNAs main runway