With all the talk of retrofitting certain highways with tolls...
Has this ever actually been done anywhere? Where an existing, toll-free expressway -- or for that matter, an untolled bridge or tunnel -- was given a toll?
It seems like all the toll roads we have now were built as tollways. I know of two toll roads that had their tolls removed (JFK Highway in MD, and the CT Turnpike). And there are at least two locations where former HOV lanes had tolls added, at least for some users, in the form of HOT or HO/T lanes, in VA and FL. But are there any locations where a toll was added to all lanes of a highway?
SR 520 in Seattle, WA.
Yes, a toll is in the process of being added to the Elgin-O'Hare Expressway (IL-390) in Chicago's NW suburbs. It was built as a freeway by IDOT and given to ISTHA to add lanes and extend eastward.
In Norfolk/Portsmouth VA, Midtown Tunnel (US 58) and Downtown Tunnel (I-264) both had tolls restored after starting out as toll roads then being toll free for nearly 25 years.
Mike
There are several highways & bridges that were converted from 2 way tolls to one way tolls, including 95 (JFK) in MD. Not really removing tolls, as they generally double the tolls on the tolled direction.
Nearly every (or is it every?) Delaware & Hudson River bridge received similar one way tolling treatments.
I-95 over the Delaware River will have tolls added when the bridge is widened in the near future.
The AC Expressways' Interchange 9 had tolls added in what were once free movements.
The eastbound exit from the Dulles Toll Road to VA-7 had a toll added many years after the road opened.
The Portuguese expressways formerly called SCUT (i.e. Without cost for the user). Which resulted in the collapse of the parallel roads they replaced.
The Scudders Falls Bridge will be getting a tall when it is rebuilt.
Quote from: bzakharin on January 18, 2016, 03:44:00 PM
The Scudders Falls Bridge will be getting a toll when it is rebuilt.
Already mentioned a few posts back (reposted below).
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 18, 2016, 02:03:04 PMI-95 over the Delaware River will have tolls added when the bridge is widened in the near future.
Mass Pike, exits 1-6. You could ride it without paying tolls (you would get a ticket that says "$0.00"), but now it's not free anymore.
Quote from: 1 on January 18, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
Mass Pike, exits 1-6. You could ride it without paying tolls (you would get a ticket that says "$0.00"), but now it's not free anymore.
I believe the OP's referring to a road that wasn't
originally tolled but then became tolled. The Mass Pike (I-90)
started as a toll road.
Getting ready to happen on the I-65 Ohio River bridge.
Does converting a free HOV lane to a HOT lane count, such as I-85 NE of Atlanta?
I heard that I-66 in the DC metro area might be converted into a tollway.
SH 99 (Grand Parkway) in Chambers County, TX. The section from I-10 to Fisher Road was free when it opened in 2008, but three years later, TxDOT started to charge tolls for that segment.
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 18, 2016, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on January 18, 2016, 03:44:00 PM
The Scudders Falls Bridge will be getting a toll when it is rebuilt.
Already mentioned a few posts back (reposted below).
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 18, 2016, 02:03:04 PMI-95 over the Delaware River will have tolls added when the bridge is widened in the near future.
Sorry, I thought that was referring to the other I-95 bridge over the Delaware River, though I guess that already happened. That's an interesting case, though. I always thought of the Turnpike bridge as being free with toll roads on either side. Now the bridge has its own one way toll. Does that count as new?
Quote from: bzakharin on January 18, 2016, 07:43:57 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 18, 2016, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on January 18, 2016, 03:44:00 PM
The Scudders Falls Bridge will be getting a toll when it is rebuilt.
Already mentioned a few posts back (reposted below).
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 18, 2016, 02:03:04 PMI-95 over the Delaware River will have tolls added when the bridge is widened in the near future.
Sorry, I thought that was referring to the other I-95 bridge over the Delaware River, though I guess that already happened. That's an interesting case, though. I always thought of the Turnpike bridge as being free with toll roads on either side. Now the bridge has its own one way toll. Does that count as new?
It was always tolled, you have to pay prior to entering it from the nearest exit to the bridge, at least until this month.
Quote from: Lyon Wonder on January 18, 2016, 05:45:27 PM
I heard that I-66 in the DC metro area might be converted into a tollway.
Peak direction only and only during rush hours under the current proposal for I-66 inside the Beltway. Essentially it's converting an HOV roadway to HO/T during the current HOV hours.
In Melbourne (Aus), some previously free sections of the Tullamarine and Monash freeways were tolled in order to pay for the CityLink project that connected them as well as for widening.
Quote from: bzakharin on January 18, 2016, 07:43:57 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 18, 2016, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on January 18, 2016, 03:44:00 PM
The Scudders Falls Bridge will be getting a toll when it is rebuilt.
Already mentioned a few posts back (reposted below).
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 18, 2016, 02:03:04 PMI-95 over the Delaware River will have tolls added when the bridge is widened in the near future.
Sorry, I thought that was referring to the other I-95 bridge over the Delaware River, though I guess that already happened. That's an interesting case, though. I always thought of the Turnpike bridge as being free with toll roads on either side. Now the bridge has its own one way toll. Does that count as new?
Technically, the PA-NJ Turnpike bridge was never tolled and still isn't tolled. Maintenance of the bridge is shared by both the NJTA & the PTC, but no toll is dedicated solely for the bridge.
And to clarify, I was originally referring to the Scudder Falls Bridge.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 18, 2016, 11:46:48 PM
Technically, the PA-NJ Turnpike bridge was never tolled and still isn't tolled. Maintenance of the bridge is shared by both the NJTA & the PTC, but no toll is dedicated solely for the bridge.
NJ Turnpike works it into their toll structure, though. Going from exit 7 to exit 4 or 5 is a lower toll than going from exit 7 to exit 6.
The westbound ramp toll from exit 6A is also awfully high ($3.00) for traffic about to leave the road it's paying for. If we cut this in half there is an implied $1.50 each way "bridge toll", which is also roughly what the surcharge for traffic to/from exit 6 is.
wasn't there some freeway in Miami that they added a toll to that didn't originally have one?
Quote from: mariethefoxy on January 19, 2016, 03:27:07 AM
wasn't there some freeway in Miami that they added a toll to that didn't originally have one?
SR 836 was partially toll-free, but was all under toll maintenance.
Here's a question.
Has there ever been a toll road that became a free road, and then returned to a tolled highway?
I think that would be a version of this.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on January 19, 2016, 06:21:31 AM
Here's a question.
Has there ever been a toll road that became a free road, and then returned to a tolled highway?
I think that would be a version of this.
From the 4th post in this thread...
QuoteIn Norfolk/Portsmouth VA, Midtown Tunnel (US 58) and Downtown Tunnel (I-264) both had tolls restored after starting out as toll roads then being toll free for nearly 25 years.
One very (& thankfully) short-lived example of such was the replacement Sakonnet River Bridge (RI 24/138) linking Portsmouth & Tiverton. The old bridge, which was to be demolished, had no toll. A plan make the new bridge AET nearly became reality but a revolt (regarding the high toll rates, especially for out-of-state motorists & truckers) caused that plan to be shelved though an interim 10-cent toll was charged for a short period.
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 19, 2016, 06:29:15 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on January 19, 2016, 06:21:31 AM
Here's a question.
Has there ever been a toll road that became a free road, and then returned to a tolled highway?
I think that would be a version of this.
From the 4th post in this thread...
QuoteIn Norfolk/Portsmouth VA, Midtown Tunnel (US 58) and Downtown Tunnel (I-264) both had tolls restored after starting out as toll roads then being toll free for nearly 25 years.
Yes, but i meant a highway, not a bridge.
I-95 in NC is going through a $4.4B rebuild/expansion in which the FHA has agreed the state can toll all road users. The construction should be starting later this year.
Didn't I-70 in MO get approval from the FHA for something similar in the recent decade? (having tolls added after reconstruction was finalized)
Quote from: Chris19001 on January 19, 2016, 09:54:32 AM
I-95 in NC is going through a $4.4B rebuild/expansion in which the FHA has agreed the state can toll all road users. The construction should be starting later this year.
Didn't I-70 in MO get approval from the FHA for something similar in the recent decade? (having tolls added after reconstruction was finalized)
The I-95 toll has virtually no chance of happening. It's approved, sure but there was a big blow up a few years ago where the locals were ardently against it ever happening. The I-95 tolls are political poison in eastern North Carolina.
Well NC got one step further down than road than we did up here in PA. That I-80 tolling fiasco still blows my mind.