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Title: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: TheStranger on January 19, 2016, 01:33:45 PM
Thought of this topic after I saw the following last night: this Route 82 signage in South San Francisco (from Arlington Drive)
https://goo.gl/maps/uo6fJsWRYUH2

Sacramento County's River Road (Route 160) has seen a state route shield added to the newer, mixed-case streetblades in recent months too.

Any other examples of this type of practice?  Though route-number-only street blades are interesting enough, I find the mixture of street/road name and route number to be more intriguing.


Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: jwolfer on January 19, 2016, 01:47:57 PM
NJ has the shield on the blade along with street name.. Or just the shield if no street name. I wish Florida did that
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Pink Jazz on January 19, 2016, 01:57:20 PM
I know in the Albuquerque area NMDOT has added shields to signal-mounted street blades on most of their routes.  The only exception seems to be Coors Blvd (NM 45, formerly NM 448), which have blades installed by the City of Albuquerque even though NMDOT still owns the road. 

In fact, at one point the City of Albuquerque got in trouble with NMDOT for installing blue street blades on Coors Blvd, when the state rules at the time required that street blades on state highways be green.  This required the city to change them to green on the state maintained portion of the road.  Apparently some time before NMDOT took over maintenance of the entire length of Coors Blvd, the state's rules on street blade colors have become more lax, since the blue street blades are still up on the portion of the route that was previously city-maintained (consistent with the 2009 MUTCD, the background colors of green, blue, brown, or white are acceptable).
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Brandon on January 19, 2016, 02:00:22 PM
They're common enough, but not everywhere.

Here's a few examples in Illinois I know of:
Crystal Lake (https://goo.gl/maps/LLiCnu3uqd42)
Lombard (https://goo.gl/maps/PQBzCKcb8xT2)
Aurora (https://goo.gl/maps/rxTDyyF22Bv)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: bzakharin on January 19, 2016, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on January 19, 2016, 01:47:57 PM
NJ has the shield on the blade along with street name.. Or just the shield if no street name. I wish Florida did that
This only applies to blades at traffic lights and the name of the street isn't consistently signed. For example, Speedwell Ave in Morristown is signed exclusively as a US 202 shield at traffic lights. On regular non-traffic light blades, the route number does not appear unless there is no other name or the name is not widely known. In such cases, it signed "Route x" or even "rt. X". Here is an example: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9159565,-75.0209031,3a,37.5y,11.76h,80.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRvqCDZWsae-NmU-kpmf0HA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DRvqCDZWsae-NmU-kpmf0HA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D325.91446%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1!6m1!1e1?hl=en

As an aside, you sometimes get interstate shields on blades at traffic lights at intersections where the road acts as an exit/entrance to the interstate only. Here's an example: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7970837,-74.4709423,3a,37.5y,205.09h,85.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sySXdJHAUhFpG97T-rjL16Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1!6m1!1e1?hl=en
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: froggie on January 19, 2016, 05:28:59 PM
Over the past 6 years, Prince William County, VA has replaced most (all?) of their street blades with blades that include the route number.  More recent blades also include the year of sign installation.  To my knowledge, they are the only county in Virginia that does this.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Ace10 on January 19, 2016, 08:33:30 PM
OR 99W has a few sign blades with the route shield on it. Below is one at the intersection of OR 99W (Pacific Highway W) and Hall Blvd in Tigard, near its interchange with OR 217.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4340902,-122.7647784,3a,15.5y,346.52h,95.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVJv8dG4HNt0Q1YQmvNNwlQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4340902,-122.7647784,3a,15.5y,346.52h,95.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVJv8dG4HNt0Q1YQmvNNwlQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

I like when the route shield is signed on street blades as it makes it more apparent that that's where the route is in case you're trying to follow it, but it's probably more expensive (though I'm not sure by how much) to do that than to just simply put the street name with no route shield on the blade.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 19, 2016, 08:54:37 PM
Several regions I know of:

County route written out:
https://goo.gl/maps/xHSi8szF5SG2

Just the number:
https://goo.gl/maps/8zYiUyZwjcr

Clearview:
https://goo.gl/maps/UUutq2e4vGP2
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Zeffy on January 19, 2016, 10:16:38 PM
The only one I can think of offhand:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3238258,-74.9165544,3a,18.6y,64.22h,83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSNFCztqyBfXn_R7ZzCNcVw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: roadfro on January 20, 2016, 03:01:31 AM
Places in Nevada will sometimes spell out route numbers on street name signs, such as "State Route 431" or "SR 88" or "US 95A" (for US 95 Alternate). But I don't know of a single entity that puts route shields on street name signs.

This is a practice I wish some of the agencies would adopt, at least for lighted street name signs at signalized intersections. Reno & Sparks tend to put the city logo, so I don't see them adding this anytime soon. And the agencies in the Vegas area are moving toward oversized street name fonts to increase readability, so there's little likelihood of them doing it either.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 20, 2016, 05:36:12 AM
I noticed them in parts of north Texas, including this sloppy job near my romantic partner's house.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2195288,-96.8980735,3a,15y,168.25h,114.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVtI6RyQv2ASDVYNcSpk9tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 20, 2016, 05:54:35 AM
Philadelphia does this for PA 611 at some intersections:

Correctly:(at the US 13 intersection)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0184516,-75.1491992,3a,75y,294.31h,97.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVYaxcrfq-_ZxUJhNg08iLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0184516,-75.1491992,3a,75y,294.31h,97.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVYaxcrfq-_ZxUJhNg08iLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

And still thinking of it as US 611(more often than not):
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9596228,-75.1619556,3a,75y,23.72h,94.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_PRrnNwANQIWm2PS3UfWuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9596228,-75.1619556,3a,75y,23.72h,94.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_PRrnNwANQIWm2PS3UfWuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

And one for US 13 at PA 73:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0367376,-75.0407781,3a,37.5y,194.54h,87.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOSJajFQB7Fdd93EWetZvjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0367376,-75.0407781,3a,37.5y,194.54h,87.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOSJajFQB7Fdd93EWetZvjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 20, 2016, 08:26:19 AM
Quote from: bzakharin on January 19, 2016, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on January 19, 2016, 01:47:57 PM
NJ has the shield on the blade along with street name.. Or just the shield if no street name. I wish Florida did that
This only applies to blades at traffic lights and the name of the street isn't consistently signed. For example, Speedwell Ave in Morristown is signed exclusively as a US 202 shield at traffic lights.

While there's always going to be a few variances such as shield only or name only, the vast majority of NJ traffic light blades include both name and number.  The difference becomes if the lettering for the street name uses lower case lettering (NJDOT and some counties) or all uppercase lettering (some counties).  At least in Gloucester County, it makes it real easy who has jurisdiction because of the lettering used on the sign.

Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Mapmikey on January 20, 2016, 01:04:43 PM
Quote from: froggie on January 19, 2016, 05:28:59 PM
Over the past 6 years, Prince William County, VA has replaced most (all?) of their street blades with blades that include the route number.  More recent blades also include the year of sign installation.  To my knowledge, they are the only county in Virginia that does this.


Powhatan County has started doing this...here is one where they identify VA 13 as US 13 - https://goo.gl/maps/xD4fdS6Bphq
Chesterfield County is also identifying SR numbers on their street blades as well...

This practice is widespread in North Carolina...

Mike
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: noelbotevera on January 20, 2016, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 20, 2016, 05:54:35 AM
Philadelphia does this for PA 611 at some intersections:

Correctly:(at the US 13 intersection)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0184516,-75.1491992,3a,75y,294.31h,97.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVYaxcrfq-_ZxUJhNg08iLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0184516,-75.1491992,3a,75y,294.31h,97.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVYaxcrfq-_ZxUJhNg08iLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

And still thinking of it as US 611(more often than not):
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9596228,-75.1619556,3a,75y,23.72h,94.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_PRrnNwANQIWm2PS3UfWuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9596228,-75.1619556,3a,75y,23.72h,94.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_PRrnNwANQIWm2PS3UfWuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

And one for US 13 at PA 73:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0367376,-75.0407781,3a,37.5y,194.54h,87.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOSJajFQB7Fdd93EWetZvjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0367376,-75.0407781,3a,37.5y,194.54h,87.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOSJajFQB7Fdd93EWetZvjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Beat me to the punch, but Philadelphia has wayyyy more than the PA 611 examples.

-PA 73, along the time it is on Cottman Avenue
-PA 3, I think along JFK Blvd., mostly near the 30th Street Station
-US 13 and US 30, and along the multiplex on Girard Avenue
-I-676 surface street section of 6th Street...might be wrong here
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Ian on January 20, 2016, 05:33:07 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on January 20, 2016, 05:23:58 PM
-I-676 surface street section of 6th Street...might be wrong here

If I remember correctly, all the street blades along that stretch just say Vine Street. The city does have interstate trailblazers on street blades though...

https://goo.gl/maps/W8DDVZZGGWR2
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: kj3400 on January 20, 2016, 06:36:01 PM
I think I like the way my state does it:
https://goo.gl/maps/9rCGp6hMohy

And without the street name:
https://goo.gl/maps/BDGmiRF5yBu

Anne Arundel County does actual street blades like this, usually:
https://goo.gl/maps/cpndejgGjLM2
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: slorydn1 on January 20, 2016, 07:04:30 PM
 My area of NC's method (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0938562,-77.1319168,3a,15y,351.66h,87.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s24IX6HBgAxjlV79r14Ku3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en). This particular one probably now belongs in erroneous signs (well,sort of, I'll explain later) because this particular stretch of highway is no longer US-17 but US-17 Business now that the bypass is open.


Now for the explanation: The reason why I say "sort of" is because when the bypass was opened as a freeway it was decided by the county GIS department that it just wouldn't be worth the hassle to rename the street US-17 Business and all the work that entails for both the county and the residents/business owners of each address along it since the freeway would not, obviously, have any addresses along it. They learned from the chaos/hate/discontent that was created when the section of road that is in the city limits of New Bern was renamed Martin Luther King Jr Blvd from Clarendon Blvd back in the 90's.


So, even though the highway has been re-designated as US-17 Business, an address along it is xxxx US-17 Hwy South for E-911 purposes (etc).
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Scott5114 on January 22, 2016, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 20, 2016, 05:36:12 AM
I noticed them in parts of north Texas, including this sloppy job near my romantic partner's house.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2195288,-96.8980735,3a,15y,168.25h,114.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVtI6RyQv2ASDVYNcSpk9tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Dallas does it quite consistently on their newer signs.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8671331,-96.9078734,3a,53.3y,211.18h,102.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3xahRHx-ofqMyLONvZ7GvA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: jakeroot on January 22, 2016, 03:57:05 PM
Street blades maintained by WSDOT, AFAIK, always use the route shield. Street blades maintained by local municipalities usually have shields as well, but it's less consistent.

Sometimes, at T-junctions, instead of a street blade, there is a uni-sign with respective route shields.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVY1xzO1.png&hash=963611d984c1ddc4fe835a136a936cc7e5b52547)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFRTqAfo.png&hash=4cba0272d1ccece01807be15609330698ac845f9)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRHuMKlu.png&hash=3a0d06bc73dab7bcb7ee67457d96641a581bcb2c)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbIb5Tv8.png&hash=21d7345b04edd30de4f811af85402a218cda5cdf)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: chays on July 18, 2016, 11:44:09 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on January 19, 2016, 01:47:57 PM
NJ has the shield on the blade along with street name.. Or just the shield if no street name. I wish Florida did that
US 1 through downtown Titusville area has lots of these.  I was able to snap this one...apologies for it not being zoomed in more.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD8sjQ1S.jpg&hash=b7fb0a78b959e8a5f8cd52006e3b403ac231634d)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: national highway 1 on July 19, 2016, 04:13:53 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floodgap.com%2Froadgap%2Fmass%2Fassets%2F0007-0008.JPG&hash=aad28b60c2ef7a58d43fe9557a3a62dce81788f2)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: cl94 on July 19, 2016, 11:56:24 PM
NYSDOT does it on occasion. Seems to be most prevalent in Region 3, which has them all over the place in recent installs, but there are a couple on US 20 in the Albany area (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6816127,-73.8392559,3a,44.7y,31.87h,85.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saexG7dUMjfxzJEQdoKYElg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) as well. I think it looks quite sharp and that it should be done everywhere, as online mapping services often use the number first.

Herkimer County, NY and Summit County, OH put pentagons on their blades, but rarely (if ever) post shields by themselves.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Quillz on July 20, 2016, 01:39:16 AM
I was vacationing in Washington recently, I drove through the Spokane area and liked how US-2 had shields on the street blades. Looked quite nice, too. Don't have a pic handy, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: jakeroot on July 20, 2016, 08:45:50 AM
Quote from: Quillz on July 20, 2016, 01:39:16 AM
I was vacationing in Washington recently, I drove through the Spokane area and liked how US-2 had shields on the street blades. Looked quite nice, too. Don't have a pic handy, unfortunately.

Washington State is very consistent with their use of route numbers on street blades. That said, I'm pretty sure that Hwy 2 through Spokane is maintained by the city, so I'm happy to see Spokane following WSDOT's lead.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Quillz on July 20, 2016, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 20, 2016, 08:45:50 AM
Quote from: Quillz on July 20, 2016, 01:39:16 AM
I was vacationing in Washington recently, I drove through the Spokane area and liked how US-2 had shields on the street blades. Looked quite nice, too. Don't have a pic handy, unfortunately.

Washington State is very consistent with their use of route numbers on street blades. That said, I'm pretty sure that Hwy 2 through Spokane is maintained by the city, so I'm happy to see Spokane following WSDOT's lead.
It was a green background, too. I figured it would just be a typical black square.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: 7/8 on July 20, 2016, 07:00:55 PM
I could've sworn I've seen these in the GTA with regional route shields and numbers on the street blades, but I can't seem to find them on GSV  :-/
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: 7/8 on July 20, 2016, 07:14:33 PM
I guess I was looking in the wrong place :pan: I had a 4-month work term in St. Catharines, and I just remembered that they were really common there!

Here's the intersection of St. Paul St and Ontario St (white on blue):
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.1551933,-79.2457529,3a,37.5y,209.18h,98.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4b9qUvQ3n-Rbne-NjMujKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.1551933,-79.2457529,3a,37.5y,209.18h,98.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4b9qUvQ3n-Rbne-NjMujKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtLx5XNs.png&hash=89c003e036b8402b19b5fc515ce0279326e4633e)

The intersection of Fourth Ave and Ontario St (blue on white):
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.1603705,-79.2555297,3a,30y,136.35h,100.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw2pibDXQTsIXbNmq1v98Cg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.1603705,-79.2555297,3a,30y,136.35h,100.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw2pibDXQTsIXbNmq1v98Cg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fa5b9ARf.png&hash=189129af0637a9397789da2aebe74f526c60dff8)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: 7/8 on July 22, 2016, 08:24:55 PM
I also found some in my local area. I haven't seen any on the main street blades beside the stoplights. But they are sometimes on posts approaching the intersection.

Erbsville Rd at Columbia St in Waterloo:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV4vVgUh.jpg&hash=a0d8683d999b4fa953fdb9f5709643ad761366ba)

King St E at Fairway Rd N in Kitchener:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FI0JxTAb.jpg&hash=9b80193b89c9b5578b70b8dc254e5a5cfa2e43df)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: marleythedog on July 24, 2016, 09:34:10 PM
Huber Heights, OH is the only city I know in my area that does this:

(look on the signal posts, they're tiny)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8468014,-84.1140225,3a,37.5y,114.34h,91.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXiDaW0ZM0t-Sm5RIBPDKEA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Some of the counties put the county road number on the blades, each a bit differently:
Greene County puts it where you'd expect the block number: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7915466,-84.0656975,3a,37.5y,178.89h,73.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soZhAcx6O0OWMn8fegTm5UA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Champaign County puts it in tiny text on a second row: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1208519,-83.9028945,3a,15y,227.66h,84.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh25BtO8DOBXogEUG9jEjQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Mercer County is the closest to OP's example: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.607863,-84.4996519,3a,75y,166.98h,74.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s67tL-nCcmWRsk2HjJbEuww!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Thing 342 on July 24, 2016, 09:54:50 PM
York County is the only area in HR that does this (consistently, at least; expecting consistency from the HR cities is an exercise in futility).  They have a small section for the route name on their blade: example (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1194189,-76.450702,3a,18.2y,202.57h,84.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smovboYmkTE9LYa7fXx-sfA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Takumi on July 24, 2016, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: Thing 342 on July 24, 2016, 09:54:50 PM
York County is the only area in HR that does this (consistently, at least; expecting consistency from the HR cities is an exercise in futility).  They have a small section for the route name on their blade: example (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1194189,-76.450702,3a,18.2y,202.57h,84.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smovboYmkTE9LYa7fXx-sfA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
There are a couple more Virginia counties that do that, to my knowledge. Chesterfield is one, having started doing so in the mid 1990s when they switched to the larger mixed-case blades. For awhile they were using it as a substitute for the white rectangle, but lately there have been new installations with both.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: 7/8 on August 08, 2016, 06:18:15 PM
I've seen a few street blades in Waterloo Region with numbers in circles and I was going to ask what these meant, but Google Maps helped me figure out that these numbers are for "Township Roads".

So for example, the street blade below is for "Township Rd 39". This was taken at Apple Grove Rd and King St in the Township of Woolwich, ON

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyWNUxlR.jpg&hash=3b1ed532c55df519d54571bd68262db39bd1b4f1)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: national highway 1 on August 09, 2016, 01:17:49 AM
Here's one for IA 965
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fiowahighwayends.net%2Fends%2FFall13%2F965streetsign.jpg&hash=64dfc751735aa4e0994601225aca5f0217cac3fa)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: thenetwork on August 09, 2016, 01:40:19 AM
Colorado does it sporadically:  You will find a few in Glenwood Springs, and Grand Junction has just started to put US-6 shields on some of their overhead mast street signs.

There are a few in the Cleveland, OH area as well -- especially in suburban Independence and Brecksville.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: Brian556 on August 09, 2016, 02:11:30 AM
The current TxDOT standard:
(In Roanoke)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1209.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc395%2FBrian5561%2F02272013007_zps489e8f79.jpg&hash=1e57050eb040dc6e0ff176f68687cb33742f6483) (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/Brian5561/media/02272013007_zps489e8f79.jpg.html)

This oddity from Grand Prairie:
Using an interstate shield for auto trail (later a US highway) is absurd
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1209.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc395%2FBrian5561%2F111711024.jpg&hash=9754218776e40b70f1a145cb94ed48eb4ba1bacb) (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/Brian5561/media/111711024.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on August 09, 2016, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: Takumi on July 24, 2016, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: Thing 342 on July 24, 2016, 09:54:50 PM
York County is the only area in HR that does this (consistently, at least; expecting consistency from the HR cities is an exercise in futility).  They have a small section for the route name on their blade: example (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1194189,-76.450702,3a,18.2y,202.57h,84.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smovboYmkTE9LYa7fXx-sfA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
There are a couple more Virginia counties that do that, to my knowledge. Chesterfield is one, having started doing so in the mid 1990s when they switched to the larger mixed-case blades. For awhile they were using it as a substitute for the white rectangle, but lately there have been new installations with both.

Powhatan seems to use both rectangles and route numbers in sign blades. Albemarle seems to do this too, as does Prince William on its horribly ugly, gigantic blue sign blades.
Title: Route shields on signals
Post by: US 89 on May 30, 2017, 07:42:20 PM
On most of the newer signals done by UDOT, the route shield has been included on the street blade. Examples:
https://goo.gl/pLb2pE (https://goo.gl/pLb2pE)
https://goo.gl/QoHZkM (https://goo.gl/QoHZkM)

Is this a common thing across the country?
Title: Re: Route shields on signals
Post by: epzik8 on May 30, 2017, 07:47:17 PM
Maryland has it on quite a few signals.
Title: Re: Route shields on signals
Post by: jakeroot on May 30, 2017, 07:58:27 PM
We've had a thread on this before: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17292.0

To answer your question, they've become more common. Washington has been posting shields on street blades for several decades. A reasonably old example is below.

Is this practice uncommon in Utah? Sometimes, I see "SR XX" or "SH XX" (i.e. route number written out) instead of the shield, usually when the street lacks a name.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbIb5Tv8.png&hash=21d7345b04edd30de4f811af85402a218cda5cdf)
Title: Re: Route shields on signals
Post by: US 89 on May 30, 2017, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 30, 2017, 07:58:27 PM
We've had a thread on this before: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17292.0

Sorry, didn't see that thread.

Quote from: jakeroot on May 30, 2017, 07:58:27 PM
Is this practice uncommon in Utah? Sometimes, I see "SR XX" or "SH XX" (i.e. route number written out) instead of the shield, usually when the street lacks a name.

I had never seen any of these in Utah until a few years ago, when they started putting a bunch of them up.

And you're right, in Utah if the road doesn't have a name, it will say "US-XX" or "SR-XX". In New Mexico, the other place I had seen this, they will use both the shield and the written out number, like this. https://goo.gl/5jYDva (https://goo.gl/5jYDva)
Title: Re: Route shields on signals
Post by: Alex on May 30, 2017, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on May 30, 2017, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 30, 2017, 07:58:27 PM
We've had a thread on this before: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17292.0

Sorry, didn't see that thread.

Went ahead and merged the two topics.

Delaware started using street blades with route markers on newer mast arm assemblies recently.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: PHLBOS on May 31, 2017, 10:05:03 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on January 20, 2016, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 20, 2016, 05:54:35 AM
Philadelphia does this for PA 611 at some intersections:

Correctly:(at the US 13 intersection)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0184516,-75.1491992,3a,75y,294.31h,97.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVYaxcrfq-_ZxUJhNg08iLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0184516,-75.1491992,3a,75y,294.31h,97.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVYaxcrfq-_ZxUJhNg08iLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

And still thinking of it as US 611(more often than not):
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9596228,-75.1619556,3a,75y,23.72h,94.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_PRrnNwANQIWm2PS3UfWuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9596228,-75.1619556,3a,75y,23.72h,94.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_PRrnNwANQIWm2PS3UfWuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

And one for US 13 at PA 73:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0367376,-75.0407781,3a,37.5y,194.54h,87.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOSJajFQB7Fdd93EWetZvjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0367376,-75.0407781,3a,37.5y,194.54h,87.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOSJajFQB7Fdd93EWetZvjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Beat me to the punch, but Philadelphia has wayyyy more than the PA 611 examples.

-PA 73, along the time it is on Cottman Avenue
-PA 3, I think along JFK Blvd., mostly near the 30th Street Station
-US 13 and US 30, and along the multiplex on Girard Avenue
-I-676 surface street section of 6th Street...might be wrong here
For a few years, the portion of Bartram Ave. that's part of PA 291 had route shields on the street blades (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8918754,-75.242018,3a,75y,307.6h,79.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6PBjejpETKo76mz7Mfa3_A!2e0!5s20080801T000000!7i3328!8i1664).  The replacement signs no longer have such (the above-GSV is from 2008), even though the road is still part of PA 291.
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: doorknob60 on May 31, 2017, 04:47:04 PM
It's not very common in Idaho, but here's one on US-20/26 in downtown Boise. Note that the highway is following Broadway northbound, and then turns left (west) onto Front St (this street blade). So actually, east of this sign is not US-20/26, but since it's a one way road (you can't turn onto the non 20/26 part) it's not very misleading. This sign is new as of the last year or so (as far as I'm aware), after the construction of a new Broadway Ave. bridge.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRbjBwa7.png&hash=61dcc54b902b3a4cc9f073c735d3fdf413716760)
GSV Link (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6077953,-116.193361,3a,43.4y,14.72h,90.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdc3QaDHGFyLmvCR2P2p2Iw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: cwf1701 on May 31, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
I seen some on Gratiot (M-3) in MI. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5970162,-82.880832,3a,15y,262.31h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYKeX9td6tqaZxnOvY8FrLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: US71 on June 01, 2017, 11:45:19 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2406/2259963888_e9c1a9ca57_z_d.jpg?zz=1)
Olive Branch, MS

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3086/2626563973_3f3f51ebcd_d.jpg)
Rogers, AR (removed, but not replaced during the 49 transition)

I have more somewhere, but no time to look
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: US 89 on June 01, 2017, 12:00:59 PM
Quote from: US71 on June 01, 2017, 11:45:19 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2406/2259963888_e9c1a9ca57_z_d.jpg?zz=1)
Olive Branch, MS

So which one is the real US 78?
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: US71 on June 01, 2017, 12:56:33 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on June 01, 2017, 12:00:59 PM
Quote from: US71 on June 01, 2017, 11:45:19 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2406/2259963888_e9c1a9ca57_z_d.jpg?zz=1)
Olive Branch, MS

So which one is the real US 78?

Both. One IS 78, the other WAS 78 :)
Title: Re: Route numbers on street blades
Post by: cl94 on June 01, 2017, 01:27:03 PM
How did we get so far without mentioning West Virginia? They're EVERYWHERE in that state. If a route in WV has a number, the shield goes on the blade if WVDOT installed it.