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Title: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: WISFreeways on October 01, 2009, 05:36:51 PM
Why can't they just have the exit onlys be true exit onlys? I saw on some of their interchanges that there was no exit only (even though there was an exit ramp) and the exit only lane just ended.  :confused:
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: mightyace on October 01, 2009, 06:06:36 PM
Can you give us an example or two? (interchanges that are this way)
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: Alps on October 01, 2009, 06:33:43 PM
Supposedly it's better design from a traffic standpoint to end the lane just beyond the interchange instead of having an Exit Only ramp.  This is done at I-280 (NJ) WB at Exit 4A, although curiously "Exit Only" is used on the sign there.  It has to do either with volume balancing and/or preventing last-second lane changes - operational vs. safety benefits.
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: froggie on October 01, 2009, 09:17:55 PM
mightyace:  there's a few on I-694 near the Mississippi River.  Some occasional ones along I-94 in scattered spots across the metro, including westbound at MN 101 and at MN 280.  There's even a "Lane Ends Merge Right", due to a left-side exit on eastbound 94 at Mounds Blvd, on the east side of downtown St. Paul.

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Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: rawr apples on October 01, 2009, 09:30:52 PM
Future widening perhaps?
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: froggie on October 01, 2009, 10:16:07 PM
Doubtful, and just about impossible in most of the cases.  Several of these are basically short extensions of auxiliary lanes between adjacent interchange ramps that have close spacing....MnDOT likes using the term "escape lane" for them, as it gives traffic trying to merge on that extra 100-200-300-whatever feet to get up to speed and make the merge.
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: WISFreeways on October 01, 2009, 10:28:25 PM
NOTE TO THE ADMINS: move this thread since its not only in MN.
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: Alps on October 01, 2009, 10:39:08 PM
I would say in this case there are two topics: the specific treatment of the Minnesota cases (since there are so many) and the more generic case.  If you'd like to start a more general thread in the appropriate forum, go for it!
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: WISFreeways on October 01, 2009, 10:43:31 PM
so whats more costly, the "lane ends merge left/right" signs, or a car crash?
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: WISFreeways on October 02, 2009, 04:59:39 PM
I'll stay in MN.
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: Bryant5493 on October 07, 2009, 04:23:00 PM
I've seen this on I-95 in Chatham County at the I-16 junction, west of Savannah. I've also seen it on I-359 North at I-20/59 (Tuscaloosa, Alabama).


Be well,

Bryant
Title: Re: Lane ends merge lefts in Minnesota
Post by: WISFreeways on October 16, 2009, 08:29:46 PM
I saw this on the 94/WIS 164 interchange heading EB on I-94.