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If you didn't know this so called 'Zootopia' is a thing, either you've been living under a rock or this is the only website you ever go on. I mean, it's getting everywhere. I see some kind of TV thing about it everytime I watch the news, I always have to watch trailers, and if you've played Poptropica lately, every other room you go to there's an entrance to 'Zootopia'. But the thing is:
Who cares?
None of us have even seen the movie yet! It's not even OUT! How do we know it's a good movie just because it's created by the same people that created Frozen, which was a hit with the little girls? Maybe I'll see it once people have confirmed it's a good movie, but to drool over it right now is so unlogical! :banghead: I don't mind hype as long as the movie LIVES UP to it, like what happened with Inside Out. Frozen was kind of overrated, but the hype actually kind of made me decide to give it a try. But THIS? So what I've made out of this is that, of course, it's a Disney movie about, of course, talking biped foxes in this big city.
Corporate marketing is a great thing, isn't it?
FWIW: I have not seen anything for this movie outside of a single post on this forum (ironically enough).
Welcome to the world of buzz.
Somewhere at the end of the last millennium, letting everyone know there's a movie coming out next year seemed to be a trend. And that sets the ball rolling, kind of like Katamari Damacy...eventually that delectable nugget of information becomes a bit lost in the unwieldy morass and possibly unpalatable.
In short, just ignore the fuss and move on. Life lesson: if you spend too much time fussing over the things you don't like, you'll miss out on opportunities best spent on things you enjoy.
Quote from: Zeffy on March 01, 2016, 12:26:14 PM
FWIW: I have not seen anything for this movie outside of a single post on this forum (ironically enough).
Same here.
The preview was very funny.
Quote from: formulanone on March 01, 2016, 01:29:51 PM
Life lesson: if you spend too much time fussing over the things you don't like, you'll miss out on opportunities best spent on things you enjoy.
Basically, don't waste your life trying to win internet arguments? Sounds good to me. :nod:
On topic, I actually want to watch Zootopia, seems like it'll be a decent comedy. Coincidentally enough, it comes out on my brother's birthday.
I've never heard of it either.
Quote from: 1 on March 01, 2016, 03:09:40 PM
I've never heard of it either.
Same, but I don't usually watch movies of any kind that much. I'm pretty frugal and unless a movie is
really good, I don't usually see it,
I'm familiar with the film because I like films, but I haven't noticed any more hype surrounding its release than any other film.
authenticroadgeek, I would guess that, due to your age, you've heard more about this film than most of us because you're the target audience.
I don't know about "very funny." Having sloths at the DMV was a little clever, though.
Quote from: Rothman on March 01, 2016, 10:04:06 PM
I don't know about "very funny." Having sloths at the DMV was a little clever, though.
I thought it was a well-crafted if simple bit. More about executing the jokes likably than anything too cerebral. Nailing the simple things goes a long way.
And those sloths can really act.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 02, 2016, 12:10:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on March 01, 2016, 10:04:06 PM
I don't know about "very funny." Having sloths at the DMV was a little clever, though.
I thought it was a well-crafted if simple bit. More about executing the jokes likably than anything too cerebral. Nailing the simple things goes a long way.
And those sloths can really act.
Personally, although I don't think it's the
best movie that Disney/
anyone have ever made, it's not the worst either. It looks ok and the jokes seem to be executed fairly well. The movie is not all that brainy, but if you want a easy laugh, it's a pretty good choice if you have time to waste. :spin:
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 01, 2016, 01:33:24 PM
The preview was very funny.
Wwhhaatt ddoo yyoouu mmeeaann?? ;-) xD
My advertising over-saturation-related irritation is reserved mostly for Daily Fantasy Sports these days.
Last Disney animation I saw was either Lady and the Tramp or Fantasia.
Looks like it will be worth watching when it appears on TV, though not worth going out of the way to see it.
Isn't every movie overhyped in some fashion?
Quote from: ET21 on March 03, 2016, 09:45:59 AM
Isn't every movie overhyped in some fashion?
No. Not at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_lKShbp3nw
Rotten Tomatoes certified (100+ reviews) it as 99% Fresh (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/zootopia/). OK, that means that it almost everyone's cup of tea, rather than it's an amazing movie (though the average score of 8.0/10 is better than both The Martian and The Revenant which have 7.8 and 7.9 respectively - but they have about three times the reviews, with more than just one rotten one).
Zootopia caters to the furries, fans of anthromorphic animated animals in cartoon movies and TV programs. You would encounter and meet them in fancons (conventions) like the great annual Comic-Con in San Diego. I say it'll have a huge following among furries.
I've hated Disney ever since 101 Dalmations (1961), their last good movie. Let's just say that I'm grateful for not going to the Comic-Con convention in Washington DC, because I know that Disney would be there.
Actually getting on topic, Zootopia just seems to be overhyped. I don't give a (excuse the expletive) damn about it, I just want them to come up with something that's actually than a bad, overhyped, memed piece of crap.
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 25, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
I've hated Disney ever since 101 Dalmations (1961), their last good movie.
The rest of the 60s must've been a tough time for you.
I can't wait to have enough spare energy to be this annoyed at a movie about animal detectives.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 25, 2016, 03:48:03 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 25, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
I've hated Disney ever since 101 Dalmations (1961), their last good movie.
The rest of the 60s must've been a tough time for you.
I can't wait to have enough spare energy to be this annoyed at a movie about animal detectives.
I wasn't alive back then (:crazy:) but I've watched it.
Ditto.
Someone mentioned 101 Dalmatians, what about Robin Hood (1973), a big hit among furries? Furries have been around since the late 1970s or early 1980s, then came out of hiding in the 1990s thanks to the internet.
Zootopia is a metaphor for human ethnicity and race relations, a real life matter in a family movie, but in a child-friendly way. To see different species try to control themselves when they deal with another species, I guess Zootopia is quite human.
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 25, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
I've hated Disney ever since 101 Dalmations (1961), their last good movie.
Hyperbole check: you are absolutely welcome to your opinion, but are you
really of the opinion that (to cherry-pick a few)
The Jungle Book (1967),
Beauty and the Beast (1991, nominated for Best Picture),
Aladdin (1992),
The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993),
The Lion King (1994),
The Emperor's New Groove (2000),
Frozen (2013),
Big Hero 6 (2014) are
all not good movies? Are you considering the Pixar movies to be their own entity (totally valid opinion, especially pre-2006), or are you saying none of those are good either?
No good movies in the last 55 years? You're able to go through this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_theatrical_animated_features (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_theatrical_animated_features)
(and believe me, there are some stinkers on here) and tell me you didn't like
any of them post-1961?
Again, if that's how you truly feel, I respect that, but you understand it does seem a little incredulous, given the sheer number of films, and the massive critical acclaim (and box office receipts) that many of them have.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 01, 2016, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 01, 2016, 12:26:14 PM
FWIW: I have not seen anything for this movie outside of a single post on this forum (ironically enough).
Same here.
When I saw the tread title, I mistook it for the 1993 U2 album called Zooropa.
Count me as another one who apparently lives under a rock.
Quote from: kphoger on April 19, 2016, 12:51:06 PM
When I saw the tread title, I mistook it for the 1993 U2 album called Zooropa.
Glad I'm not the only one! :-D
An oft-maligned album, but one that I will argue is actually quite underappreciated.
Quote from: Duke87 on April 21, 2016, 08:23:47 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 19, 2016, 12:51:06 PM
When I saw the tread title, I mistook it for the 1993 U2 album called Zooropa.
Glad I'm not the only one! :-D
An oft-maligned album, but one that I will argue is actually quite underappreciated.
It's actually one of the few U2 albums I hadn't listened to so, in honor of your post, I played it on YouTube during this evening's shave. (I take my time shaving, building my own lather and doing two passes with a double-edge razor, so I made it through all but the last two songs.) I must say, I wasn't all that impressed. It kind of reminded me of REM's later albums (Up, Around the Sun), which I'm not super fond of either. However, the last song I listened to, "The First Time", was a great one. I think I liked it, though, because its sound is similar to U2's more typical sound than the others, which means I most liked the song that sounded the least like the rest of Zooropa.
Quote from: DTComposer on April 19, 2016, 12:43:29 PMHyperbole check: you are absolutely welcome to your opinion, but are you really of the opinion that (to cherry-pick a few) The Jungle Book (1967), Beauty and the Beast (1991, nominated for Best Picture), Aladdin (1992), The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993), The Lion King (1994), The Emperor's New Groove (2000), Frozen (2013), Big Hero 6 (2014) are all not good movies?
There's some bad examples there:
Jungle Book is really bad as a movie (especially now), but somehow manages to hypnotise you into thinking that it's really good and fun - by the songs, I suppose, but there's only two that anyone remembers - then again, that's 10 minutes as they made the songs long to make up for the issue that there's not really any story.
Frozen is just annoying now (#letletitgogo), though I'd agree that it's hard to deny that it isn't good.
Emperor's New Groove just fell into the wayside - it's good, but nothing special, especially compared to contemporary films (Toy Story 2, Shrek and Monsters, Inc. were all released around that time).
The Lion King was amazing in 1994, but post-Pixar it is a little bit meh and if it was released two years later we'd remember it little more than Tarzan or Hercules (ie not much). The soundtrack is what really makes it, hence the successful musical.
Aladdin was rubbish (I was the target audience as a 6 year old boy when it came out, including for the TV show where I was an 8 year old boy) and saved only by Robin Williams - I actually preferred the straight to VHS sequel "Return of Jafar" when it came out because it had more characterisation, less sappiness, less Aladdin without genie and a better plot. My disdain for Aladdin the character knows no bounds.
Beauty and the Beast was meh. Really the music and animation is memorable, but it wants to be an adult Disney movie (haha!) like Treasure Island, yet it failed at that.
And now Star Wars is a Disney movie..........
Quote from: english si on April 22, 2016, 06:01:05 AM
Quote from: DTComposer on April 19, 2016, 12:43:29 PMHyperbole check: you are absolutely welcome to your opinion, but are you really of the opinion that (to cherry-pick a few) The Jungle Book (1967), Beauty and the Beast (1991, nominated for Best Picture), Aladdin (1992), The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993), The Lion King (1994), The Emperor's New Groove (2000), Frozen (2013), Big Hero 6 (2014) are all not good movies?
There's some bad examples there:
...and I'm no apologist for any of these - most I've only seen once, and I enjoyed them at the time, although I'm sure if I watched them again, some will seem dated or juvenile or whatever. My point (which you supported in your comments by admitting some of those movies are, in your opinion, good, or even amazing when you first saw them) is that it seems hyperbolic for someone to say they "hated"
every movie a studio has released in the past 55 years - it came across to me as someone wanting to hate on Disney because it's hip to bash corporate America.
Quote from: noelbotevera on April 22, 2016, 06:45:07 AM
Beauty and the Beast was meh. Really the music and animation is memorable, but it wants to be an adult Disney movie
??? Explain that. Disney took the original story and, like it did with most of the fairy tales it adapted, actually made it more accessible and appealing to children (adding the enchanted household objects, a stock villain and his dopey sidekick, etc), not adults.
And if the animation and music are memorable to you, but the overall film was meh, I would be interested to hear how that compares to the pre-1961 films that fare better in your opinion. Is the storytelling in, say,
Dumbo or
Cinderella or
Lady and the Tramp that much more compelling to you?
Again, I'm not trying to change your opinion or convince you of anything, I'm simply curious to hear you support your original comment.