With McHenry County now about to begin construction to widen the remaining four lane sections of Randall Road within their boundaries to six lanes, when will Kane County get going on their part? Randall Road should be six lanes from the Algonquin Commons south to at least Main Street in Batavia (but preferably to Orchard Road in North Aurora).
The first section that needs to be done is the section in the I-90 area, from Big Timber Road north to IL-72, including reconstruction/reconfiguration of the Randall Road/I-90 interchange.
Quote from: I-39 on March 08, 2016, 07:01:18 PM
With McHenry County now about to begin construction to widen the remaining four lane sections of Randall Road within their boundaries to six lanes, when will Kane County get going on their part? Randall Road should be six lanes from the Algonquin Commons south to at least Main Street in Batavia (but preferably to Orchard Road in North Aurora).
The first section that needs to be done is the section in the I-90 area, from Big Timber Road north to IL-72, including reconstruction/reconfiguration of the Randall Road/I-90 interchange.
Probably would be good to post a link to the project:
http://www.randallroad.info/
Something tells me there won't be any widening of Randall Road to I-90 at least for several years. I'm sure it would take quite a level of cooperation from the tollway, and I am not too sure how much they will be up for that amount of construction considering that they just are going to be finishing the I-90 widening this year. However, the interchange between I-90 and Randall Road desperately needs expansion.
The other half of the project isn't even on the 5 year plan, so even in 8-10 years when this is all constructed and done there no guarantee Kane County has gotten any kind of plan together. You would have though that they would have rebuilt the interchange when they rebuilt 90 as that only makes sense, but I said the same thing about 290/53 and 90. It really just comes down to the state doesn't have the money and the political bickering in Springfield hasn't ended yet. IDOT needs massive funding, otherwise nothing will get done.
It's been on the plan for a while. Traffic's going to be a whole lot worse with Stearns road, red gate road, Elgin O'hare, 90 being 4 lanes to Randall, westward development, etc.
Randall's a county road, not a state road.
KDOT should really focus on bringing a grade separation on the CP tracks and Randall near Hopps road. I friggen swear every time God sneezes with 1" of snow, that rail crossing goes haywire.
As far as the 90 and Randall road intersection, I wouldn't be surprised if ITHSA comes back up and expands the road to 8 lanes to 47. Development westward is picking up, especially with the new hospital in Huntley. Probably then they'll work with KDOT and redesign the intersection.
Lastly, I bet a lot of highway departments are under budget right now with the mild winter season we've had (less road salt being used) + low gas prices + less money to fix up the potholes caused by the snow plows.
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/7.1%20-%20Recommended%20Improvements.pdf
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/2040_Roadway_ES_reduced_verbiage.pdf
The southern end is starting to get bad, especially around the I-88 overpass where it's still only one lane in each direction. They have two-three lanes towards Batavia already
Randall or 47 should be been a grade separation setup. Back in the 90's I think I-90 to IL-72 was only 2 lanes.
Also why add tolls to the Il-47 ramps (you just paid a main line toll!) All most if they wanted to make IL-47 into fox valley expressway / prairie parkway toll road. (also need to extend Elgin bypass to it)
And IL-47 drops way to fast from 6 lanes down to 2 lanes just after I-90
Kane County's budget is going to be devoted to Longmeadow Parkway for a few years. I don't believe they have even started any of the environmental/design studies necessary for widening Randall yet.
Quote from: ET21 on March 09, 2016, 10:03:39 AM
The southern end is starting to get bad, especially around the I-88 overpass where it's still only one lane in each direction. They have two-three lanes towards Batavia already
The southern end switches from Kane County to North Aurora's jurisdiction - I don't remember where exactly, but it's before the bride over I-88 - so less likely for anything to be done unless Kane County takes it over.
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 09, 2016, 06:34:43 PM
Kane County's budget is going to be devoted to Longmeadow Parkway for a few years. I don't believe they have even started any of the environmental/design studies necessary for widening Randall yet.
Quote from: ET21 on March 09, 2016, 10:03:39 AM
The southern end is starting to get bad, especially around the I-88 overpass where it's still only one lane in each direction. They have two-three lanes towards Batavia already
The southern end switches from Kane County to North Aurora's jurisdiction - I don't remember where exactly, but it's before the bride over I-88 - so less likely for anything to be done unless Kane County takes it over.
Plus, most traffic is diverted down Orchard at that point anyway (where the interchange with I-88 is). If anything, the Orchard/Mooseheart/Randall intersection should be realigned so that Orchard flows smoothly into Randall. That would create one corridor from Crystal Lake to IL-71.
Can the state designate it a state route and take it over? I wonder what traffic numbers are for Randall road after the Orchard road intersection, I'd be interested in those numbers.
Quote from: quickshade on March 10, 2016, 11:38:34 AM
Can the state designate it a state route and take it over? I wonder what traffic numbers are for Randall road after the Orchard road intersection, I'd be interested in those numbers.
Why would you want to curse Randall Road with IDiOT?
Quote from: Brandon on March 10, 2016, 01:26:23 PM
Quote from: quickshade on March 10, 2016, 11:38:34 AM
Can the state designate it a state route and take it over? I wonder what traffic numbers are for Randall road after the Orchard road intersection, I'd be interested in those numbers.
Why would you want to curse Randall Road with IDiOT?
maybe they could have moved funds from the il 31 algonquin bypass to other stuff. When just moving IL-31 to Randall Road would have worked.
My thought here was that Kane county seems to not deem it a big problem, while McHenry county does, so if it were a state project maybe it wouldn't be seen as so much a county by county problem but a much bigger problem. Nothing I hate more than projects that could take 6 years end up taking 15 years. Sectional construction on roads is one of the worse things you can do from a design standpoint. The bottlenecks and traffic data you get from them are so misleading.
Quote from: quickshade on March 10, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
My thought here was that Kane county seems to not deem it a big problem, while McHenry county does, so if it were a state project maybe it wouldn't be seen as so much a county by county problem but a much bigger problem. Nothing I hate more than projects that could take 6 years end up taking 15 years. Sectional construction on roads is one of the worse things you can do from a design standpoint. The bottlenecks and traffic data you get from them are so misleading.
You're talking about a state that lets problems like this fester for 20-30 years while the counties actually do something about it. I can name many, many instances where a county highway has been upgraded while the state route is still two lanes.
Quote from: Brandon on March 10, 2016, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: quickshade on March 10, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
My thought here was that Kane county seems to not deem it a big problem, while McHenry county does, so if it were a state project maybe it wouldn't be seen as so much a county by county problem but a much bigger problem. Nothing I hate more than projects that could take 6 years end up taking 15 years. Sectional construction on roads is one of the worse things you can do from a design standpoint. The bottlenecks and traffic data you get from them are so misleading.
You're talking about a state that lets problems like this fester for 20-30 years while the counties actually do something about it. I can name many, many instances where a county highway has been upgraded while the state route is still two lanes.
Randall road-4 lanes
IL-25 in most sections paralleling Randall-2 lanes, most without a median
IL-31 in most sections paralleling Randall-2 lanes.
However Dupage county has done better with state roads-IL-56 (Butterfield road,) has been upped to 4 lanes until the EJ&E tracks, North ave is 6 lanes throughout Dupage county, 59 being 6 lanes near I-88, and fixing IL-53 near Itasca/Addison.
Kane county has been ripped off by the state in comparison to Dupage county.
North Cook is what pisses me off the most- 6 lanes of Golf road turning into 2 with no median near Barrington road in less than a mile. 2 lanes, no median, all the way until Elgin. And Barrington road and IL-59 being 2 lanes north of I-90 ugh.
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 10, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 10, 2016, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: quickshade on March 10, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
My thought here was that Kane county seems to not deem it a big problem, while McHenry county does, so if it were a state project maybe it wouldn't be seen as so much a county by county problem but a much bigger problem. Nothing I hate more than projects that could take 6 years end up taking 15 years. Sectional construction on roads is one of the worse things you can do from a design standpoint. The bottlenecks and traffic data you get from them are so misleading.
You're talking about a state that lets problems like this fester for 20-30 years while the counties actually do something about it. I can name many, many instances where a county highway has been upgraded while the state route is still two lanes.
Randall road-4 lanes
IL-25 in most sections paralleling Randall-2 lanes, most without a median
IL-31 in most sections paralleling Randall-2 lanes.
However Dupage county has done better with state roads-IL-56 (Butterfield road,) has been upped to 4 lanes until the EJ&E tracks, North ave is 6 lanes throughout Dupage county, 59 being 6 lanes near I-88, and fixing IL-53 near Itasca/Addison.
Kane county has been ripped off by the state in comparison to Dupage county.
North Cook is what pisses me off the most- 6 lanes of Golf road turning into 2 with no median near Barrington road in less than a mile. 2 lanes, no median, all the way until Elgin. And Barrington road and IL-59 being 2 lanes north of I-90 ugh.
The issue with Golf Road I've heard has somewhat to do with the forest preserve, and I wouldn't be surprised if any of the towns with the name "Barrington" in it are a significant part of the reason for the lack of widening on IL 59 and Barrington Road.
It is remarkable how much better Kane County has been about widening Randall Road than IDOT about the parallel roads. At least it is 4 lanes and lit up where it needs to be. I'm sure Randall Road will be 6 lanes long before either IL 31 or IL 25 have 4 lanes much of the way.
james r rakow / Randall IL-31 to I-90 can use some overpasses + right in right out. Or even a michigan left system.
Quote from: Brandon on March 09, 2016, 06:53:44 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 09, 2016, 06:34:43 PM
Kane County's budget is going to be devoted to Longmeadow Parkway for a few years. I don't believe they have even started any of the environmental/design studies necessary for widening Randall yet.
Quote from: ET21 on March 09, 2016, 10:03:39 AM
The southern end is starting to get bad, especially around the I-88 overpass where it's still only one lane in each direction. They have two-three lanes towards Batavia already
The southern end switches from Kane County to North Aurora's jurisdiction - I don't remember where exactly, but it's before the bride over I-88 - so less likely for anything to be done unless Kane County takes it over.
Plus, most traffic is diverted down Orchard at that point anyway (where the interchange with I-88 is). If anything, the Orchard/Mooseheart/Randall intersection should be realigned so that Orchard flows smoothly into Randall. That would create one corridor from Crystal Lake to IL-71.
I never thought of that. Interesting. Unfortunately, I don't think there is enough ROW to do that.
As for widening Randall south of Oak Street over I-88, they are going to need to replace the overpass over I-88 at some point in the next 15-20 years, it's still the original. When they do that, they could widen the corridor to 4 lanes from Oak Street to Sullivan Road.
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 08, 2016, 11:40:25 PM
KDOT should really focus on bringing a grade separation on the CP tracks and Randall near Hopps road. I friggen swear every time God sneezes with 1" of snow, that rail crossing goes haywire.
As far as the 90 and Randall road intersection, I wouldn't be surprised if ITHSA comes back up and expands the road to 8 lanes to 47. Development westward is picking up, especially with the new hospital in Huntley. Probably then they'll work with KDOT and redesign the intersection.
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/7.1%20-%20Recommended%20Improvements.pdf
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/2040_Roadway_ES_reduced_verbiage.pdf
1. There is not enough room to do a grade separation at Hopps Road. How frequently is that railway line used anyway?
2. They will not widen I-90 to eight lanes west of Randall anytime soon, they just finished widening to six lanes and the new crossroad bridges at Tyrell, IL-72 and Powers Road are not big enough to accommodate a 4th lane in each direction.
3. It is in the long range plans, but KDOT has not yet started any serious work (that I know of) on planning for widening their sections of Randall to six lanes (despite being sorely needed).
Quote from: I-39 on March 10, 2016, 09:21:55 PM
1. There is not enough room to do a grade separation at Hopps Road. How frequently is that railway line used anyway?
If IDOT can cram a grade separation in at US 14 and the EJ&E in Barrington, (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1613428,-88.1305003,201m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en), and Melrose Park can cram one in on 25th Avenue at the UP West Line (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8908771,-87.8624671,405m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en), Kane County can easily grade separate Randall Road at the CN line. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9910528,-88.3400045,404m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)
Quote from: I-39 on March 10, 2016, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 08, 2016, 11:40:25 PM
KDOT should really focus on bringing a grade separation on the CP tracks and Randall near Hopps road. I friggen swear every time God sneezes with 1" of snow, that rail crossing goes haywire.
As far as the 90 and Randall road intersection, I wouldn't be surprised if ITHSA comes back up and expands the road to 8 lanes to 47. Development westward is picking up, especially with the new hospital in Huntley. Probably then they'll work with KDOT and redesign the intersection.
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/7.1%20-%20Recommended%20Improvements.pdf
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/2040_Roadway_ES_reduced_verbiage.pdf
2. They will not widen I-90 to eight lanes west of Randall anytime soon, they just finished widening to six lanes and the new crossroad bridges at Tyrell, IL-72 and Powers Road are not big enough to accommodate a 4th lane in each direction.
maybe if they drop the shoulder just for the overpass. Parts of I-94 / I-294 have setups like that.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on March 10, 2016, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 10, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 10, 2016, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: quickshade on March 10, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
My thought here was that Kane county seems to not deem it a big problem, while McHenry county does, so if it were a state project maybe it wouldn't be seen as so much a county by county problem but a much bigger problem. Nothing I hate more than projects that could take 6 years end up taking 15 years. Sectional construction on roads is one of the worse things you can do from a design standpoint. The bottlenecks and traffic data you get from them are so misleading.
You're talking about a state that lets problems like this fester for 20-30 years while the counties actually do something about it. I can name many, many instances where a county highway has been upgraded while the state route is still two lanes.
Randall road-4 lanes
IL-25 in most sections paralleling Randall-2 lanes, most without a median
IL-31 in most sections paralleling Randall-2 lanes.
However Dupage county has done better with state roads-IL-56 (Butterfield road,) has been upped to 4 lanes until the EJ&E tracks, North ave is 6 lanes throughout Dupage county, 59 being 6 lanes near I-88, and fixing IL-53 near Itasca/Addison.
Kane county has been ripped off by the state in comparison to Dupage county.
North Cook is what pisses me off the most- 6 lanes of Golf road turning into 2 with no median near Barrington road in less than a mile. 2 lanes, no median, all the way until Elgin. And Barrington road and IL-59 being 2 lanes north of I-90 ugh.
The issue with Golf Road I've heard has somewhat to do with the forest preserve, and I wouldn't be surprised if any of the towns with the name "Barrington" in it are a significant part of the reason for the lack of widening on IL 59 and Barrington Road.
It is remarkable how much better Kane County has been about widening Randall Road than IDOT about the parallel roads. At least it is 4 lanes and lit up where it needs to be. I'm sure Randall Road will be 6 lanes long before either IL 31 or IL 25 have 4 lanes much of the way.
Simplistically speaking,
Why can't IDOT donate some land somewhere else or give a cash donation for the land in Cook county forest preserve? I know this was a problem a few years ago with Dupage forest preserve and Dupage county transportation when they wanted to widen S. Bartlett road and add a median. In the end Dupage county transportation just gave Dupage county forest preserve land somewhere else in exchange for the land necessary for widening S. Bartlett road.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised with those Barringtons throwing a hissy fit for widening their precious road. Barrington roads under IDOT jurisdiction, no? I know IDOT is planning on widening the intersection of irving park and barrington road.
Quote from: I-39 on March 10, 2016, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 08, 2016, 11:40:25 PM
KDOT should really focus on bringing a grade separation on the CP tracks and Randall near Hopps road. I friggen swear every time God sneezes with 1" of snow, that rail crossing goes haywire.
As far as the 90 and Randall road intersection, I wouldn't be surprised if ITHSA comes back up and expands the road to 8 lanes to 47. Development westward is picking up, especially with the new hospital in Huntley. Probably then they'll work with KDOT and redesign the intersection.
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/7.1%20-%20Recommended%20Improvements.pdf
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/2040_Roadway_ES_reduced_verbiage.pdf
1. There is not enough room to do a grade separation at Hopps Road. How frequently is that railway line used anyway?
2. They will not widen I-90 to eight lanes west of Randall anytime soon, they just finished widening to six lanes and the new crossroad bridges at Tyrell, IL-72 and Powers Road are not big enough to accommodate a 4th lane in each direction.
3. It is in the long range plans, but KDOT has not yet started any serious work (that I know of) on planning for widening their sections of Randall to six lanes (despite being sorely needed).
Often enough. The rail crossing has failed at least 4 times this winter. Additionally, it's the only rail crossing on all of randall road.
Why can't KDOT lower Randall road and raise the tracks? They did it on Mclean when KDOT extended stearns road 6 years ago.
They haven't widened it, but they did install Michigan-esque left turn lanes.
http://kanecountyconnects.com/2015/01/randall-road-will-get-1-7-million-safety-improvements-in-2015/
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on March 10, 2016, 11:30:14 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 10, 2016, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 08, 2016, 11:40:25 PM
KDOT should really focus on bringing a grade separation on the CP tracks and Randall near Hopps road. I friggen swear every time God sneezes with 1" of snow, that rail crossing goes haywire.
As far as the 90 and Randall road intersection, I wouldn't be surprised if ITHSA comes back up and expands the road to 8 lanes to 47. Development westward is picking up, especially with the new hospital in Huntley. Probably then they'll work with KDOT and redesign the intersection.
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/7.1%20-%20Recommended%20Improvements.pdf
http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/planning/2040%20Roadway%20Plan/2040_Roadway_ES_reduced_verbiage.pdf
2. They will not widen I-90 to eight lanes west of Randall anytime soon, they just finished widening to six lanes and the new crossroad bridges at Tyrell, IL-72 and Powers Road are not big enough to accommodate a 4th lane in each direction.
maybe if they drop the shoulder just for the overpass. Parts of I-94 / I-294 have setups like that.
Almost all of I-94/294 has that because ISTHA took the cheap way out on the Tri-State rebuild/widen from 2006-2009 and didn't rebuild most of the crossroad bridges. They learned their lesson and are doing I-90 the right way.
Because of the wider inside shoulder, they couldn't do what you suggest under those bridges. The 4th lane in each direction will stop at Randall Road for the foreseeable future.
Fortunately Google already has Streetview images of I-90 during or since the rebuild:
Tyrell Road overpass (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0913843,-88.3594821,3a,75y,303.96h,73.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRiH2A6qgd3DQXdn6jVqlDg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
IL 72 overpass (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1006406,-88.3808462,3a,75y,337.78h,83.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scpNhxvYzmwjyHfYwzjSEJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Powers Road overpass (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1105232,-88.4083058,3a,75y,301.43h,89.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUtFcAY7z74iyYiDr-Wd1dw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DUtFcAY7z74iyYiDr-Wd1dw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D40.991741%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Certainly appears ISTHA could modify the slopewalls to add a fourth lane without having to completely replace the bridges.
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 11, 2016, 09:36:53 PM
Fortunately Google already has Streetview images of I-90 during or since the rebuild:
Tyrell Road overpass (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0913843,-88.3594821,3a,75y,303.96h,73.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRiH2A6qgd3DQXdn6jVqlDg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
IL 72 overpass (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1006406,-88.3808462,3a,75y,337.78h,83.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scpNhxvYzmwjyHfYwzjSEJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Powers Road overpass (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1105232,-88.4083058,3a,75y,301.43h,89.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUtFcAY7z74iyYiDr-Wd1dw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DUtFcAY7z74iyYiDr-Wd1dw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D40.991741%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Certainly appears ISTHA could modify the slopewalls to add a fourth lane without having to completely replace the bridges.
Those type of setups are intended for easy widening. As stated, they would just need to convert the slopewalls into a regular wall. Look at the Tyrell Road Overpass, on the EB lanes, this is already setup this way. The bridges themselves can easily support additional lanes.
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 10, 2016, 11:39:42 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on March 10, 2016, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 10, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 10, 2016, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: quickshade on March 10, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
My thought here was that Kane county seems to not deem it a big problem, while McHenry county does, so if it were a state project maybe it wouldn't be seen as so much a county by county problem but a much bigger problem. Nothing I hate more than projects that could take 6 years end up taking 15 years. Sectional construction on roads is one of the worse things you can do from a design standpoint. The bottlenecks and traffic data you get from them are so misleading.
You're talking about a state that lets problems like this fester for 20-30 years while the counties actually do something about it. I can name many, many instances where a county highway has been upgraded while the state route is still two lanes.
Randall road-4 lanes
IL-25 in most sections paralleling Randall-2 lanes, most without a median
IL-31 in most sections paralleling Randall-2 lanes.
However Dupage county has done better with state roads-IL-56 (Butterfield road,) has been upped to 4 lanes until the EJ&E tracks, North ave is 6 lanes throughout Dupage county, 59 being 6 lanes near I-88, and fixing IL-53 near Itasca/Addison.
Kane county has been ripped off by the state in comparison to Dupage county.
North Cook is what pisses me off the most- 6 lanes of Golf road turning into 2 with no median near Barrington road in less than a mile. 2 lanes, no median, all the way until Elgin. And Barrington road and IL-59 being 2 lanes north of I-90 ugh.
The issue with Golf Road I've heard has somewhat to do with the forest preserve, and I wouldn't be surprised if any of the towns with the name "Barrington" in it are a significant part of the reason for the lack of widening on IL 59 and Barrington Road.
It is remarkable how much better Kane County has been about widening Randall Road than IDOT about the parallel roads. At least it is 4 lanes and lit up where it needs to be. I'm sure Randall Road will be 6 lanes long before either IL 31 or IL 25 have 4 lanes much of the way.
Simplistically speaking,
Why can't IDOT donate some land somewhere else or give a cash donation for the land in Cook county forest preserve? I know this was a problem a few years ago with Dupage forest preserve and Dupage county transportation when they wanted to widen S. Bartlett road and add a median. In the end Dupage county transportation just gave Dupage county forest preserve land somewhere else in exchange for the land necessary for widening S. Bartlett road.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised with those Barringtons throwing a hissy fit for widening their precious road. Barrington roads under IDOT jurisdiction, no? I know IDOT is planning on widening the intersection of irving park and barrington road.
I've heard several instances where the Cook County Forest Preserve has worked to prevent widening. They even do it to their own highway department. An example is Quentin Road North of IL 68 (Dundee Road). Both North and South of that stretch through the forest preserve have now been widened to four or five lanes, but that stretch through the forest preserve is still a two lane choke-point.
I believe Irving Park Road and Barrington Road is within Hanover Park. The Barringtons throw a fit over any type of progress (especially Barrington Hills). Why else is Algonquin Road still two lanes in between IL 68 and IL 25? Although, getting back on topic, it seems even once IDOT does get clearance on anything, it just sits. I mean, look how long it finally took them to reroute IL 31 in Algonquin, yet Randall Road and other Kane County Highways at least get some of the attention they need in a semi realistic timetable.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on March 12, 2016, 01:02:44 AM
I've heard several instances where the Cook County Forest Preserve has worked to prevent widening. They even do it to their own highway department. An example is Quentin Road North of IL 68 (Dundee Road). Both North and South of that stretch through the forest preserve have now been widened to four or five lanes, but that stretch through the forest preserve is still a two lane choke-point.
The relationships between the County DOTs and the County Forest Preserves are interesting. The Forest Preserve Districts almost always have to get a permit to do any improvements to the county roads (such as a pedestrian underpass), the same as a private developer would.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on March 12, 2016, 01:02:44 AMI believe Irving Park Road and Barrington Road is within Hanover Park.
Per the street name signs at the intersection, you are correct (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0054461,-88.1446957,3a,39.2y,371.69h,98.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFE-C6PcI2TXdr22SdBLp0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en)
Quote from: jonhdoe780And Barrington road and IL-59 being 2 lanes north of I-90 ugh.
IIRC, IDOT did try to get CMAQ funding a couple years ago to fill in the gap on Barrington Road between IL 62 and I-90, but was turned down.