What are some destinations shown on exit or intersection signage that, for all practical purposes, don't really exist (or barely so)?
One that I see regularly is the US 9 exit for "Senasqua Rd" in Croton-on-Hudson, NY. Senasqua Rd technically exists, but it amounts to only a one-way stretch adjacent to the US 9 freeway and is barely distinguishable from part of an exit ramp or, at best, a frontage road. As far as I know there is only one address located on the road, that of the former NY Central station.
Other examples might be some of the exits from western Interstates that have names, but the name is of a vanished settlement, one that may never have existed in much form at all. I know I've found several interchange names that don't appear in the GNIS database or on USGS maps, so they can't even be said to represent localities.
Others?
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Exit 44 on I-90 in SD is signed as Bethlehem Rd, but exits to Chimney Canyon Rd and 218th St. Other than that, SDDOT does a good job of not putting a destination for an exit if there's nothing there.
I-278, exit 28A: Cadman Plaza West (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7010141,-73.9945151,3a,75y,70.29h,97.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJzlZof_DOmF2Juaxhl6wFQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Cadman Plaza is a basically a park which isn't far from the exit, but is not a street. You get dumped onto Fulton Street in reality if you take this exit.
They exist, but the I-787 exit for "Colonie St Columbia St" bugs me. You're really put onto Water Street. No one cares about the two-block-long Colonie St and Columbia St, which I suppose gets you to City Hall, is more blocks down Water Street.
Exit 87A on SB 101 in Carpinteria, CA is signed for Reynolds Avenue, but it only lasts one block south of the trumpet interchange. It's essentially an access road for Santa Ynez Avenue, which crosses the freeway.
Does "Thru Traffic" count?
Quote from: 1 on March 19, 2016, 06:08:07 AM
Does "Thru Traffic" count?
Never quite understood but has been like that since I can remember or more likely when I-990 was built :D
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0019504,-78.814391,3a,75y,127.76h,86.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2km91QJk4ijVjIm7DslpZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9927104,-78.8016179,3a,75y,330.88h,82.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYHT0BYUYLJZ7fSRfr1SSww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I'm sure this counts as well at I-990's southern terminus
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0034644,-78.8037691,3a,75y,178.69h,88.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skFwVlX8O-KdAYr1kp99mdA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
On US 15 immediately north of Williamsport, an interchange is labeled "Foy Ave (https://goo.gl/maps/pFfAAsVurAu)" . At its peak, Foy Avenue was never more than a disconnected side street with a handful of homes on it, severed from the street grid on one end by railroad tracks.
When the freeway bypasses of US 15 and 220 were built in the early '70s, Foy Avenue become the northern terminus of the 15 freeway; the few homes that stood along that street and neighboring streets were all razed, leaving no trace of Foy except the sign.
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 19, 2016, 01:16:16 AM
I-278, exit 28A: Cadman Plaza West (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7010141,-73.9945151,3a,75y,70.29h,97.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJzlZof_DOmF2Juaxhl6wFQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Cadman Plaza is a basically a park which isn't far from the exit, but is not a street. You get dumped onto Fulton Street in reality if you take this exit.
Cadman Plaza West certainly is a street, and a rather major one. It does connect to Fulton St. so it's not a direct connection to the BQE, but definitely not non-existent.
Quote from: 1 on March 19, 2016, 06:08:07 AM
Does "Thru Traffic" count?
Yes, if there isn't any actual thru traffic!
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Quote from: noelbotevera on March 19, 2016, 01:16:16 AM
I-278, exit 28A: Cadman Plaza West (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7010141,-73.9945151,3a,75y,70.29h,97.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJzlZof_DOmF2Juaxhl6wFQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Cadman Plaza is a basically a park which isn't far from the exit, but is not a street. You get dumped onto Fulton Street in reality if you take this exit.
Cadman Plaza is still a place. Otherwise where are my NYC parking fines going?
On i195 in New Jersey exit 21 and 22 have Siloam and Georgia.. Sections of townships but nobody knows them really
Closest approximation of a non-existent destination in this area would be the county road exit just east of the I-680 Mormon Bridges over the Missouri River at Omaha.
The I-29 exit for Loveland Iowa is close, the community is unincorporated and the population is under 40.
Churchman's Crossing in Delaware. Originally named Metroform, the redevelopment of the area surrounding Delaware Park at the cross roads of Delaware 4 and 7 never came to pass. Signs along I-95 and DE 1 at DE 7 reference it consistently but Stanton is pretty much all that is recognizable as one heads north. Further more Deltech's campus nearby is still the Stanton Campus and not the Churchman's Crossing Campus.
Quote from: Alex on March 19, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
Churchman's Crossing in Delaware. Originally named Metroform, the redevelopment of the area surrounding Delaware Park at the cross roads of Delaware 4 and 7 never came to pass. Signs along I-95 and DE 1 at DE 7 reference it consistently but Stanton is pretty much all that is recognizable as one heads north. Further more Deltech's campus nearby is still the Stanton Campus and not the Churchman's Crossing Campus.
It's just home to a bunch of shopping centers and restaurants now, really. But you never hear of Christiana Hospital or the hotels in the area as being in Churchman's Crossing. Really, they should've tied the area name into Christiana, with the mall and hospital being named after it already. Heck, Christiana Crossing would've been better!
6th St NE off I-90 in Austin, MN. 6th St ends at T-intersections in either direction immediately after the I-90 interchange.
Norwood, Maryland (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/commuting/take-the-icc-and-exit-at-norwood--where/2012/01/04/gIQAoo7SfP_story.html), which is listed on BGSs on the Intercounty Connector.
(Link is to a Washington Post story talking about how nobody who lives in Norwood has heard of it. The article even uses the term "control cities" but puts it in quotation marks as if to suggest it's some strange term. I note my use of quotation marks here is simply because I'm referring to the term being used as a term.)
Exit 94 on I-64 in Kentucky for KY 1958 has, for as long as I can remember, had "Van Meter Rd./Winchester" as its destinations.
The biggest problem with that is that KY 1958 is NOT Van Meter Rd. It's officially known as Bypass Road. Van Meter Road is a county road that connects with KY 2888, which intersects KY 1958 just north of the I-64 interchange, and really serves nothing of any importance. Better signage would be for "Winchester/Richmond," the way "Boonesboro/Winchester" are signed on Exit 95, KY 627, on I-75.
"Ramapo, NY" is indeed a place, but it is not a destination because no person ever says to themselves, "I have to go to Ramapo." It is just a line around places people identify as such. If they do say this, call the government or shoot them because they are an alien or a spy.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 19, 2016, 11:18:49 PM
"Ramapo, NY" is indeed a place, but it is not a destination because no person ever says to themselves, "I have to go to Ramapo." It is just a line around places people identify as such. If they do say this, call the government or shoot them because they are an alien or a spy.
They could be referring to the rest area. The Ramapo Service Area is always a stop of mine heading SB on the Thruway, as it's the last rest area.
NJDOT used to sign all sorts of little dinky areas on small green signs all over the state. Other than some of the more well known areas, most of those signs have disappeared thru the years, and in many cases the people living in those areas now don't even realize what the area had formerly been called. A longtime volunteer fire department's name may be the only remaining hint of the areas' identity.
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 19, 2016, 12:32:43 AM
Exit 44 on I-90 in SD is signed as Bethlehem Rd, but exits to Chimney Canyon Rd and 218th St. Other than that, SDDOT does a good job of not putting a destination for an exit if there's nothing there.
Is there a Bethlehem Road anywhere nearby, or is it an alternate/obsolete name for one of the others?
Quote from: Jardine on March 19, 2016, 01:24:35 PM
Closest approximation of a non-existent destination in this area would be the county road exit just east of the I-680 Mormon Bridges over the Missouri River at Omaha.
Does the exit not serve a county road? Looks like it connects to 130th Street.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 19, 2016, 02:58:19 PM
Norwood, Maryland (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/commuting/take-the-icc-and-exit-at-norwood--where/2012/01/04/gIQAoo7SfP_story.html), which is listed on BGSs on the Intercounty Connector.
Yeah, that's the type of place I feel like I've seen elsewhere, too. There seem to be a couple such locales around State College, for example–is it because people choose exit destinations by poring over old DOT maps and using whatever placename happens to still be shown there? (And as the article also asks, do obsolete names ever see much resurgence in use by being assigned to exits this way?)
Quote from: hbelkins on March 19, 2016, 10:08:43 PM
Exit 94 on I-64 in Kentucky for KY 1958 has, for as long as I can remember, had "Van Meter Rd./Winchester" as its destinations.
The biggest problem with that is that KY 1958 is NOT Van Meter Rd. It's officially known as Bypass Road. Van Meter Road is a county road that connects with KY 2888, which intersects KY 1958 just north of the I-64 interchange, and really serves nothing of any importance. Better signage would be for "Winchester/Richmond," the way "Boonesboro/Winchester" are signed on Exit 95, KY 627, on I-75.
This seems to be a prominent sub-theme emerging: where the destination does very much exist, but connects to the interchange only circuitously or indirectly–and in a few rare cases, not at all. I feel like Texas has a thing with this, actually.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 19, 2016, 02:58:19 PM
Norwood, Maryland (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/commuting/take-the-icc-and-exit-at-norwood--where/2012/01/04/gIQAoo7SfP_story.html), which is listed on BGSs on the Intercounty Connector.
(Link is to a Washington Post story talking about how nobody who lives in Norwood has heard of it. The article even uses the term "control cities" but puts it in quotation marks as if to suggest it's some strange term. I note my use of quotation marks here is simply because I'm referring to the term being used as a term.)
More about Norwood, Montgomery County, Maryland from the Just Up the Pike blog here (http://www.justupthepike.com/2011/12/forgotten-village-of-norwood-makes.html).
Quote from: cl94 on March 20, 2016, 12:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 19, 2016, 11:18:49 PM
"Ramapo, NY" is indeed a place, but it is not a destination because no person ever says to themselves, "I have to go to Ramapo." It is just a line around places people identify as such. If they do say this, call the government or shoot them because they are an alien or a spy.
They could be referring to the rest area. The Ramapo Service Area is always a stop of mine heading SB on the Thruway, as it's the last rest area.
They're not. This is on 202 in New Jersey.
Always loved the Metropark Amtrak stop, and GSP Exit 131. There is no Metropark, NJ. It's located in Iselin, which itself is part of Woodbridge Township.
Quote from: empirestate on March 20, 2016, 01:03:42 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 19, 2016, 12:32:43 AM
Exit 44 on I-90 in SD is signed as Bethlehem Rd, but exits to Chimney Canyon Rd and 218th St. Other than that, SDDOT does a good job of not putting a destination for an exit if there's nothing there.
Is there a Bethlehem Road anywhere nearby, or is it an alternate/obsolete name for one of the others?
Yes, but they don't give directions to it... that might change when the exit's redone next year.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 20, 2016, 12:19:48 PM
Always loved the Metropark Amtrak stop, and GSP Exit 131. There is no Metropark, NJ. It's located in Iselin, which itself is part of Woodbridge Township.
But it is a place and a destination. No one said it was a town because it was on the sign.
Metropark was always intended to be a park and ride and nothing more, hence the name. The idea was to have people park there to take the Metroliner.
Quote from: cl94 on March 20, 2016, 03:06:41 PM
Metropark was always intended to be a park and ride and nothing more, hence the name. The idea was to have people park there to take the Metroliner.
Always meaning what? How did it go from just parking lot to office park?
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 20, 2016, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: empirestate on March 20, 2016, 01:03:42 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 19, 2016, 12:32:43 AM
Exit 44 on I-90 in SD is signed as Bethlehem Rd, but exits to Chimney Canyon Rd and 218th St. Other than that, SDDOT does a good job of not putting a destination for an exit if there's nothing there.
Is there a Bethlehem Road anywhere nearby, or is it an alternate/obsolete name for one of the others?
Yes, but they don't give directions to it... that might change when the exit's redone next year.
Oh, I see it, it's a couple miles north.
I think that's the same deal I've seen in Texas, especially: the roads that actually connect to the interchange don't go much of anywhere, so they pick something else that's (relatively) nearby, but actually leads to some destination–in this case, into the national forest and some kind of settlement called Bethlehem, I suppose. But then that begs the question: why didn't they just built the exit at Bethlehem Road?
There's an exit west of Topeka on I-70 between K-4 and K-99 for Ranch Road. Essentially, it serves a ranch to the south and a ranch to the north. I also seem to remember on that stretch of interstate an exit which seemed to solely exist just so you could get gas at the one gas station there.
Driving south on I-29 from Council Bluffs, there is an exit for McPaul (the former IA 145) which, as near as I can tell, is just a couple of farms. There must have been something there once, because why sign it otherwise, but there's not much there now.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 20, 2016, 12:19:48 PM
Always loved the Metropark Amtrak stop, and GSP Exit 131. There is no Metropark, NJ. It's located in Iselin, which itself is part of Woodbridge Township.
And I believe the Edison town line is just after the station heading south. You're also running right next to NJ Route 27 there.
This sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6804457,-75.4774216,3a,75y,348.39h,81.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqafbhPkti7T1AdMUdnz7Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
NJ 40 of course does not exist (It's US 40), but NJ Turnpike southbound, while technically correct, is about to end, is not signed, is past the toll barrier, and the next exit is after the I-295 merge.
Quote from: cl94 on March 20, 2016, 03:06:41 PM
Metropark was always intended to be a park and ride and nothing more, hence the name. The idea was to have people park there to take the Metroliner.
It doesn't matter what it was intended to be. This sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5658927,-74.3311554,3a,15y,203.18h,84.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6SrD_AH2sre9P5axXQl-wQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
shows that people identify Metropark as a place. I used to live near there. Metropark is where I said I was from. It was technically in Edison, but no one associates that thin sliver of Edison with the "real" Edison west of Metuchen. Nor does anyone associate Iselin with "real" Woodbridge centered around the crossing of the GS Parkway with the NJ Turnpike (which has its own train station)
On the new Lincoln Bridge spanning the Ohio River, the NB sign for Exit 0 includes 6th St. along with Court Ave.
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/indiana/2016/01/06/new-albany-mayor-residents-raise-concern-bridge-signs/78374954/
6th St. is nothing more than a 3 block long side street and it makes no sense to include it along with Court Ave. I've been really confused by this ever since the first time I saw the sign.
Quote from: empirestate on March 21, 2016, 12:57:25 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 20, 2016, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: empirestate on March 20, 2016, 01:03:42 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 19, 2016, 12:32:43 AM
Exit 44 on I-90 in SD is signed as Bethlehem Rd, but exits to Chimney Canyon Rd and 218th St. Other than that, SDDOT does a good job of not putting a destination for an exit if there's nothing there.
Is there a Bethlehem Road anywhere nearby, or is it an alternate/obsolete name for one of the others?
Yes, but they don't give directions to it... that might change when the exit's redone next year.
Oh, I see it, it's a couple miles north.
I think that's the same deal I've seen in Texas, especially: the roads that actually connect to the interchange don't go much of anywhere, so they pick something else that's (relatively) nearby, but actually leads to some destination–in this case, into the national forest and some kind of settlement called Bethlehem, I suppose. But then that begs the question: why didn't they just built the exit at Bethlehem Road?
Maybe because the railroad was too close?
Bethlehem Road used to actually go somewhere, but now I think it's either a dead end on private property or the only way to get into the Hills from that part of Meade County.
Boracho Station in Far West Texas comes to mind. It's listed as the destination for Exit 166 off of Interstate 10. By the 1970s, "a cemetery was all that remained there," according to the Texas State History Association's online Handbook of Texas.
Incidentally, "Sta" isn't an accepted abbreviation for "Station."
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi907.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac274%2Fmartinbartlett%2FBoracho%2520Station_zpspiqtcjhg.png&hash=a5a7d74bcce062954dbb20eb8357ec510620360d) (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/martinbartlett/media/Boracho%20Station_zpspiqtcjhg.png.html)
Quote from: mwb1848 on March 29, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
Incidentally, "Sta" isn't an accepted abbreviation for "Station."
Sure it is; I accept it readily, it being the abbreviation I most commonly see for that word.
Quote from: mwb1848 on March 29, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
Boracho Station in Far West Texas comes to mind. It's listed as the destination for Exit 166 off of Interstate 10.
Yep, Boracho was never quite the same after Jack Lemmon and Larry Storch demolished it during
The Great Race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb82OazTVQI
Quote from: mwb1848 on March 29, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
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Incidentally, "Sta" isn't an accepted abbreviation for "Station."
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What else would you use? (I note these are older signs since replaced with Clearview signs that replace the Metro station with the Intercounty Connector.)
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/maryland270/i-270_nb_exit_008_05.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/maryland270/i-270_nb_exit_008_06.jpg)
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 29, 2016, 09:14:41 PM
Quote from: mwb1848 on March 29, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
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Incidentally, "Sta" isn't an accepted abbreviation for "Station."
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What else would you use? (I note these are older signs since replaced with Clearview signs that replace the Metro station with the Intercounty Connector.)
Doesn't the MUTCD prescribe "Stn" or some such? Then again, don't they also prescribe "Lt" for "left"?
Will Middletown, NY become a control city on both I-84 and I-86 when the latter gets completed? It will be now be at the junction of two interstates when I-86 gets officially signed. Right now "Scranton" acts as the WB city from the NY Thruway because there is nothing in the way before of great size or significance in between the Thruway and of course Scranton. With I-86 junctioning that will make Middletown a significant place.
Also, the NJ 23 ramp at Port Jervis already lists it, but that is because NYSDOT in that region liked to use more local destinations then far away large cities like other NYSDOT Regions do. Of course PennDOT is content with using "Milford" on its EB signs from Scranton to PA 739 at Lords Valley, and only "Port Jervis" from both US 6 interchanges in Pike County, and I doubt they will change that either so EB in PA at least will not have that issue.
Quote from: mwb1848 on March 29, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
Boracho Station in Far West Texas comes to mind. It's listed as the destination for Exit 166 off of Interstate 10. By the 1970s, "a cemetery was all that remained there," according to the Texas State History Association's online Handbook of Texas.
Incidentally, "Sta" isn't an accepted abbreviation for "Station."
Another Sta: https://goo.gl/maps/S2kUSm6C1PD2
Starting with this table, http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part1/part1a.htm#table1A01 and scrolling down, there is no designated standard abbreviation for Station (which seems to be an oversight, as they have nearly every other word found on road signs designated with an abbreviation). Sta appears to be commonly used and understandable, and thus is an commonly used and acceptable abbreviation for Station.
This BGS (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5750915,-70.8770438,3a,75y,271.33h,85.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sroBUkvyBUl6MgwqnXt24Jw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (and its companions) along MA 128 southbound lists Montserrat, which is a small section of Beverly, as a destination. While there is a commuter rail station with that name; nothing else in the surrounding area is referred to as such. Interestingly, exit signage along 128 northbound does not list Montserrat as a destination for Exit 19 (Sohier Road/Brimball Ave.).
Quote from: empirestate on March 30, 2016, 08:55:20 AM
Doesn't the MUTCD prescribe "Stn" or some such? Then again, don't they also prescribe "Lt" for "left"?
Table 1A-2 (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part1/part1a.htm#table1A02) lists
Lft as the abbreviation for
left on Portable Changeable Message Signs. Table 1A-3 lists
Lt as unacceptable for
light because of possible confusion with
left.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 30, 2016, 09:08:47 AM
Will Middletown, NY become a control city on both I-84 and I-86 when the latter gets completed? It will be now be at the junction of two interstates when I-86 gets officially signed. Right now "Scranton" acts as the WB city from the NY Thruway because there is nothing in the way before of great size or significance in between the Thruway and of course Scranton. With I-86 junctioning that will make Middletown a significant place.
Also, the NJ 23 ramp at Port Jervis already lists it, but that is because NYSDOT in that region liked to use more local destinations then far away large cities like other NYSDOT Regions do. Of course PennDOT is content with using "Milford" on its EB signs from Scranton to PA 739 at Lords Valley, and only "Port Jervis" from both US 6 interchanges in Pike County, and I doubt they will change that either so EB in PA at least will not have that issue.
Which of those places are you thinking is non-existent? Middletown is a city with thousands of residents, Interstate junction or no.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3251714,-76.7950038,3a,75y,114.6h,112.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdIQdlOCdUS52U9tD4lkjvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3251714,-76.7950038,3a,75y,114.6h,112.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdIQdlOCdUS52U9tD4lkjvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
These places are unincorporated, though they do function like a borough.
I've seen "Lt Lane Closed" on variable message signs way too many times, and it drives me crazy. What's wrong with"Left Ln Closed?" Makes more sense to me.
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 31, 2016, 03:30:50 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3251714,-76.7950038,3a,75y,114.6h,112.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdIQdlOCdUS52U9tD4lkjvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3251714,-76.7950038,3a,75y,114.6h,112.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdIQdlOCdUS52U9tD4lkjvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
These places are unincorporated, though they do function like a borough.
So they're not 'essentially non-existent'.
https://goo.gl/maps/8cF1hdym4yn - I-295's Exit 15 in NJ. Specifically, Harrisonville.
It's an odd city for the exit. I can only imagine someone from DOT lived in that area and wanted it posted somewhere on the highway.
The population is only about 150 people, living in a handful of houses. Harrisonville is actually part of South Harrison Township, which gets no love on any exit sign. As far as I know, there's no signage telling you you're actually in Harrisonville; not even a school, fire station or post office. From what I can tell, you won't find it on Google Maps unless you actually type in "Harrisonville". There is Harrisonville Lake, and two roads with Harrisonville in its name.
Exits 7, 10, 11, & 14 are all closer to Harrisonville than Exit 15, where it's 9 miles and a few towns away. Especially going north, you would've bypassed the town long before reaching this exit.
Zzyzx Road, off of I-15? It was once a populated settlement but was reclaimed by the government. There is a desert study center there, but what was the original settlement doesn't appear to exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zzyzx,_California
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 03:51:32 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/8cF1hdym4yn - I-295's Exit 15 in NJ. Specifically, Harrisonville.
It's an odd city for the exit. I can only imagine someone from DOT lived in that area and wanted it posted somewhere on the highway.
The population is only about 150 people, living in a handful of houses. Harrisonville is actually part of South Harrison Township, which gets no love on any exit sign. As far as I know, there's no signage telling you you're actually in Harrisonville; not even a school, fire station or post office. From what I can tell, you won't find it on Google Maps unless you actually type in "Harrisonville". There is Harrisonville Lake, and two roads with Harrisonville in its name.
Exits 7, 10, 11, & 14 are all closer to Harrisonville than Exit 15, where it's 9 miles and a few towns away. Especially going north, you would've bypassed the town long before reaching this exit.
I see a post office on Google Maps; also a church, police station, elementary school–all in all, an appreciable settlement. Only thing I can say is that it's pretty far removed from the Interstate to be signed there, but the place itself isn't totally negligible.
Quote from: Rick Powell on March 31, 2016, 03:57:12 PM
Zzyzx Road, off of I-15? It was once a populated settlement but was reclaimed by the government. There is a desert study center there, but what was the original settlement doesn't appear to exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zzyzx,_California
Zzyzx itself might be non-existent, but the signed destination is the road, which looks about as existent as many other remotely-situated desert roads.
Quote from: empirestate on March 31, 2016, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 03:51:32 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/8cF1hdym4yn - I-295's Exit 15 in NJ. Specifically, Harrisonville.
It's an odd city for the exit. I can only imagine someone from DOT lived in that area and wanted it posted somewhere on the highway.
The population is only about 150 people, living in a handful of houses. Harrisonville is actually part of South Harrison Township, which gets no love on any exit sign. As far as I know, there's no signage telling you you're actually in Harrisonville; not even a school, fire station or post office. From what I can tell, you won't find it on Google Maps unless you actually type in "Harrisonville". There is Harrisonville Lake, and two roads with Harrisonville in its name.
Exits 7, 10, 11, & 14 are all closer to Harrisonville than Exit 15, where it's 9 miles and a few towns away. Especially going north, you would've bypassed the town long before reaching this exit.
I see a post office on Google Maps; also a church, police station, elementary school–all in all, an appreciable settlement. Only thing I can say is that it's pretty far removed from the Interstate to be signed there, but the place itself isn't totally negligible.
The post office, police station & school are in South Harrison, not Harrisonville. There's no separate zip code for Harrisonville. And the 1 church that is within what is considered Harrisonville itself doesn't use Harrisonville in its name. Thus, you'd drive thru the area and never realize you were in it.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
There's no separate zip code for Harrisonville.
Um.
Default City Name in ZIP Code™ 08039
Please use the default city whenever possible.
HARRISONVILLE NJ (http://tools.usps.com/go/ZipLookupResultsAction!input.action?resultMode=2&companyName=&address1=&address2=&city=&state=Select&urbanCode=&postalCode=08039&zip=)
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 30, 2016, 09:45:47 AM
Another Sta: https://goo.gl/maps/S2kUSm6C1PD2
Here's yet another:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2680566,-74.4930104,3a,75y,292.56h,92.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sl27LewRj4N269IuYz5mYnQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Although this is a jughandle-LGS, it actually likely qualifies for this thread. Cranbury Station is unincorporated, and the station it refers to hasn't seen passengers in at least 50 years. (It's on a very lightly used industrial track, which now comes to an end about a mile south of there, just after it ducks under the NJ Turnpike.) There are now some residential areas near Cranbury Station, but when the sign was first put up circa 1970 with the dualization of NJ-33, it was pretty much all farmland, save an industrial building or two along the tracks. Even today you have to take multiple narrow farm roads to get there from that jughandle; the Probasco Rd. bridge over the Millstone River had a
wooden deck until recently. Applegarth Rd., a couple of intersections east of there, would be a better bet.
Cranbury Station is not to be confused with Cranbury Township, which is better accessed via US-130.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: empirestate on March 31, 2016, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 03:51:32 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/8cF1hdym4yn - I-295's Exit 15 in NJ. Specifically, Harrisonville.
It's an odd city for the exit. I can only imagine someone from DOT lived in that area and wanted it posted somewhere on the highway.
The population is only about 150 people, living in a handful of houses. Harrisonville is actually part of South Harrison Township, which gets no love on any exit sign. As far as I know, there's no signage telling you you're actually in Harrisonville; not even a school, fire station or post office. From what I can tell, you won't find it on Google Maps unless you actually type in "Harrisonville". There is Harrisonville Lake, and two roads with Harrisonville in its name.
Exits 7, 10, 11, & 14 are all closer to Harrisonville than Exit 15, where it's 9 miles and a few towns away. Especially going north, you would've bypassed the town long before reaching this exit.
I see a post office on Google Maps; also a church, police station, elementary school–all in all, an appreciable settlement. Only thing I can say is that it's pretty far removed from the Interstate to be signed there, but the place itself isn't totally negligible.
The post office, police station & school are in South Harrison, not Harrisonville. There's no separate zip code for Harrisonville. And the 1 church that is within what is considered Harrisonville itself doesn't use Harrisonville in its name. Thus, you'd drive thru the area and never realize you were in it.
Google gives this address for the post office: 34 Main St, Harrisonville, NJ 08039 (https://goo.gl/maps/1k5vK8YYNm72)
...this for the school: 904 Mullica Hill Rd, Harrisonville, NJ 08039
...and this for the police station: 664 Harrisonville Rd, Harrisonville, NJ 08039.
Then there's https://goo.gl/maps/eiGQKXw3At82, and as a general view of the place: https://goo.gl/maps/41bvAzcZiW62.
Sorry, I'm having a hard time seeing this one as essentially non-existent!
I saw that particular sign many years ago living and traveling through New Jersey. I think its more of a fulfillment destination than a control city. Bascically NJDOT just wants to give a destination at either end of the road not so much to guide motorists there.
Its like I-84 at NY 17K near Newburgh, NY using "Montgomery" as well as Newburgh for that particular exit, even Eastbound where if you really wanted to go to Montgomery you would have previously exited onto NY 208 N Bound and then west on NY 17K. It is just that Montgomery and Newburgh are both used because the first major settlement west of I-84 on NY 17K is Mongomery and the first city east of I-84 for the state route is Newburgh hence both "Newburgh" and "Montgomery" for Exit 6 on I-84.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2016, 07:18:39 PM
I saw that particular sign many years ago living and traveling through New Jersey. I think its more of a fulfillment destination than a control city. Bascically NJDOT just wants to give a destination at either end of the road not so much to guide motorists there.
Its like I-84 at NY 17K near Newburgh, NY using "Montgomery" as well as Newburgh for that particular exit, even Eastbound where if you really wanted to go to Montgomery you would have previously exited onto NY 208 N Bound and then west on NY 17K. It is just that Montgomery and Newburgh are both used because the first major settlement west of I-84 on NY 17K is Mongomery and the first city east of I-84 for the state route is Newburgh hence both "Newburgh" and "Montgomery" for Exit 6 on I-84.
I'm afraid I still don't follow you. All the places you've mentioned are pretty significant: Montgomery is a substantial village, Newburgh is another city, etc.
I mean, take another place someone mentioned recently: here's a view of Boracho (Station), TX: https://goo.gl/maps/vbdmNSQnSzR2
Here's Middletown, NY: https://goo.gl/maps/njqzMWEuBap
And Montgomery, NY: https://goo.gl/maps/kxYM3sPZPKp
As you can see, Boracho really is non-existent. The others? Heck of a lot more going on there!
Not exactly what the OP intended, but how many times have you seen Hillsborough on a sign in New Jersey? I can't think of any offhand, and it seems like Google Maps doesn't even acknowledge us anymore!
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5028316,-74.6630719,13z?hl=en
A town of about 40K residents, but we're definitely non-existent on road signs. Most of the signs say Belle Meade instead, which is in neighboring Montgomery Township.
Quote from: empirestate on March 31, 2016, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: empirestate on March 31, 2016, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 03:51:32 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/8cF1hdym4yn - I-295's Exit 15 in NJ. Specifically, Harrisonville.
It's an odd city for the exit. I can only imagine someone from DOT lived in that area and wanted it posted somewhere on the highway.
The population is only about 150 people, living in a handful of houses. Harrisonville is actually part of South Harrison Township, which gets no love on any exit sign. As far as I know, there's no signage telling you you're actually in Harrisonville; not even a school, fire station or post office. From what I can tell, you won't find it on Google Maps unless you actually type in "Harrisonville". There is Harrisonville Lake, and two roads with Harrisonville in its name.
Exits 7, 10, 11, & 14 are all closer to Harrisonville than Exit 15, where it's 9 miles and a few towns away. Especially going north, you would've bypassed the town long before reaching this exit.
I see a post office on Google Maps; also a church, police station, elementary school–all in all, an appreciable settlement. Only thing I can say is that it's pretty far removed from the Interstate to be signed there, but the place itself isn't totally negligible.
The post office, police station & school are in South Harrison, not Harrisonville. There's no separate zip code for Harrisonville. And the 1 church that is within what is considered Harrisonville itself doesn't use Harrisonville in its name. Thus, you'd drive thru the area and never realize you were in it.
Google gives this address for the post office: 34 Main St, Harrisonville, NJ 08039 (https://goo.gl/maps/1k5vK8YYNm72)
...this for the school: 904 Mullica Hill Rd, Harrisonville, NJ 08039
...and this for the police station: 664 Harrisonville Rd, Harrisonville, NJ 08039.
Then there's https://goo.gl/maps/eiGQKXw3At82, and as a general view of the place: https://goo.gl/maps/41bvAzcZiW62.
Sorry, I'm having a hard time seeing this one as essentially non-existent!
Quote from: NE2 on March 31, 2016, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
There's no separate zip code for Harrisonville.
Um.
Default City Name in ZIP Code™ 08039
Please use the default city whenever possible.
HARRISONVILLE NJ (http://tools.usps.com/go/ZipLookupResultsAction!input.action?resultMode=2&companyName=&address1=&address2=&city=&state=Select&urbanCode=&postalCode=08039&zip=)
Fine. Big town. Whatever. I figured (not realizing the post office had Harrisonville on it) that there was nothing the average driver would see driving thru indicating it was Harrisonville. Going around looking up addresses at home does not help a driver If he was driving thru a town.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 09:05:44 PM
Fine. Big town. Whatever. I figured (not realizing the post office had Harrisonville on it) that there was nothing the average driver would see driving thru indicating it was Harrisonville. Going around looking up addresses at home does not help a driver If he was driving thru a town.
That doesn't matter; the driver would certainly realize that he was driving through a town; he wouldn't get there and say "there's nothing here" except hyperbolically. (I realize there's a large proportion of the populace who consider anything under a quarter million to be a "small town", but that's a very different topic.)
And in any case, he certainly would have seen it referred to as Harrisonville: that's what's listed on the sign he followed getting off the freeway. Assuming he navigates successfully to that destination (and the reasons why he mightn't are, again, a different topic), he could arrive there and immediately confirm that he had, indeed, reached a destination.
Quote from: Zeffy on March 31, 2016, 08:32:37 PM
Not exactly what the OP intended, but how many times have you seen Hillsborough on a sign in New Jersey? I can't think of any offhand, and it seems like Google Maps doesn't even acknowledge us anymore!
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5028316,-74.6630719,13z?hl=en
A town of about 40K residents, but we're definitely non-existent on road signs. Most of the signs say Belle Meade instead, which is in neighboring Montgomery Township.
It comes up for me; you're referring to Hillsborough Township, right?
https://goo.gl/maps/MWez3cEvqDw
I think what you're noticing is the cartographic treatment of the township as an areal division of land rather than as a locatable place. In theory, a township would be a subdivision of a county and would contain various built-up areas with their own names; there might be a central place with the same name as the township, but maybe not. In some cases, these built-up areas would incorporate separately and (in New Jersey's case) break off from the township. But we're still very much left with the idea that these places, whether separately incorporated or just localities inside the township, amount to "dots on the map" that make good destinations for wayfinding, whereas the township is still a line drawn broadly around an area and thus not appropriately specific for this purpose.
As your daily life shows, of course, this distinction today is incompatible with real development patterns. A township like Hillsborough could be totally built over by 40,000 residents who all identify the area as "Hillsborough", eclipsing any of the centralized settlements that might once have defined the area. But some geographers still regard the place only as a division of land, and it's still the traditional "dots on the map"–like Harrisonville–that are retained as destinations.
(This is also why it's widely known that the second-largest city in New York is Buffalo, even though the second-largest group-of-people-all-encompassed-by-the-same-government is the town of Hempstead, by a considerable margin.)
Quote from: empirestate on March 31, 2016, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2016, 07:18:39 PM
I saw that particular sign many years ago living and traveling through New Jersey. I think its more of a fulfillment destination than a control city. Bascically NJDOT just wants to give a destination at either end of the road not so much to guide motorists there.
Its like I-84 at NY 17K near Newburgh, NY using "Montgomery" as well as Newburgh for that particular exit, even Eastbound where if you really wanted to go to Montgomery you would have previously exited onto NY 208 N Bound and then west on NY 17K. It is just that Montgomery and Newburgh are both used because the first major settlement west of I-84 on NY 17K is Mongomery and the first city east of I-84 for the state route is Newburgh hence both "Newburgh" and "Montgomery" for Exit 6 on I-84.
I'm afraid I still don't follow you. All the places you've mentioned are pretty significant: Montgomery is a substantial village, Newburgh is another city, etc.
I mean, take another place someone mentioned recently: here's a view of Boracho (Station), TX: https://goo.gl/maps/vbdmNSQnSzR2
Here's Middletown, NY: https://goo.gl/maps/njqzMWEuBap
And Montgomery, NY: https://goo.gl/maps/kxYM3sPZPKp
As you can see, Boracho really is non-existent. The others? Heck of a lot more going on there!
Its not about them being non existent but an example used to support my reasoning behind the why the Harrisonville is used on a road sign. I was trying to point out that many major road agencies put a name up on sign no matter how small or large the place is just to fulfill a road sign spec. In that case the said Harrisonville is used for that as another user did point out there are more direct ways to get they from I-295.
I was just simply using Montgomery, NY being signed the not so direct way either from I-84 EB in NY to make my point. The second paragraph in my statement supports the first paragraph which gave my opinion to why NJDOT signed Harrisoville at that particular location. The "its like" is the same as for example. There was no mention that I was referring to Montgomery as a non existent place at all.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2016, 11:55:36 AM
Its not about them being non existent but an example used to support my reasoning behind the why the Harrisonville is used on a road sign. I was trying to point out that many major road agencies put a name up on sign no matter how small or large the place is just to fulfill a road sign spec. In that case the said Harrisonville is used for that as another user did point out there are more direct ways to get they from I-295.
I was just simply using Montgomery, NY being signed the not so direct way either from I-84 EB in NY to make my point. The second paragraph in my statement supports the first paragraph which gave my opinion to why NJDOT signed Harrisoville at that particular location. The "its like" is the same as for example. There was no mention that I was referring to Montgomery as a non existent place at all.
Oh, I see. I thought you were following up on your earlier post about Middletown, etc. (it being the same general area). Still not sure where you were heading with that one, but I get your point about Montgomery now.
In West Virginia, I-79's Exit #91 for US 19 is signed for Roanoke. Roanoke never was much of a town and what did exist was destroyed in the 1980s when Stonewall Jackson Lake was built.
WV also has a couple exits where the listed destination is just an existing city with a cardinal direction prefixed (e.g., "East Fairmont" for the east side of Fairmont).
Quote from: empirestate on April 01, 2016, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2016, 11:55:36 AM
Its not about them being non existent but an example used to support my reasoning behind the why the Harrisonville is used on a road sign. I was trying to point out that many major road agencies put a name up on sign no matter how small or large the place is just to fulfill a road sign spec. In that case the said Harrisonville is used for that as another user did point out there are more direct ways to get they from I-295.
I was just simply using Montgomery, NY being signed the not so direct way either from I-84 EB in NY to make my point. The second paragraph in my statement supports the first paragraph which gave my opinion to why NJDOT signed Harrisoville at that particular location. The "its like" is the same as for example. There was no mention that I was referring to Montgomery as a non existent place at all.
Oh, I see. I thought you were following up on your earlier post about Middletown, etc. (it being the same general area). Still not sure where you were heading with that one, but I get your point about Montgomery now.
Oh no. I think I derailed on the Middletown one though as it was a question for another topic. No Middletown is a decent size community and should now be used especially if I-86 will make it there soon. I would rather see it signed in PA than Milford, which is not exactly a nobody either, but it is an interesting question of why PennDOT used that over even Port Jervis which is ten miles further and much larger in population.
Carpenterville was a small hamlet on the original US 101 section between Gold Beach and Brookings in Curry County, Oregon. Signs still refer to it and even a few maps have it on but there is not a trace of this town to be found. Until the Redwood Freeway section north of Orick CA was constructed, Carpenterville was the highest elevation found on US 101. On a clear day you could see the Siskiyou Mountains from there.
Rick
When I originally posted on this topic, I should have mentioned that on I-29 in Iowa, Iowa essentially invented two cities in Nebraska. "North Omaha" is on the I-680 exit westbound (this is also true going west on I-80 onto I-680) and "South Bellevue" is a destination for the new US 34 westbound exit. To be fair, there is a part of Omaha referred to as North Omaha, but unless you are being generous in what your definition of what North Omaha is, North Omaha doesn't go as far north as I-680. South Bellevue, OTOH, is totally an invention, although in the future, Bellevue may develop in that direction. That requires it to leapfrog over Offutt AFB first, however.
I'm going on a limb and say there are several exits on I-70 in Utah that have non-existent destinations. Over the last few years, UDOT renamed exits formerly known as simply RANCH ACCESS(ES) to specific names -- yet they are not necessarily names of actual roads or cities. Some may be names of nearby creeks, or land masses but are not destinations that 99.9 percent of the traffic are specifically looking for.
I will also dare say that Cove Fort, aka the western terminus of I-70 at I-15 is a non-destination. Cove Fort is a historical park near that interchange, but again, it's not a destination that people are driving from hundreds of miles away to specifically visit or to stay overnight at. To make a pit stop specifically at the park or at the nearby Truck Stop perhaps, but most advance signage should just list the mileage to I-15 or I-70, while the control cities should just say Las Vegas for I-70 West, Salt Lake (City) for I-15-North and Cedar City/Las Vegas for I-15 South.
Quote from: thenetwork on April 03, 2016, 02:01:54 AM
Cove Fort is a historical park near that interchange, but again, it's not a destination that people are driving from hundreds of miles away to specifically visit or to stay overnight at.
Cove Fort is a significant historic site for Mormons and Mormons do indeed drive from hundreds of miles away to visit it, especially since the park's enhanced development over the past decade or so.
Quote from: empirestate on April 01, 2016, 11:22:59 AM
It comes up for me; you're referring to Hillsborough Township, right?
https://goo.gl/maps/MWez3cEvqDw
I think what you're noticing is the cartographic treatment of the township as an areal division of land rather than as a locatable place. In theory, a township would be a subdivision of a county and would contain various built-up areas with their own names; there might be a central place with the same name as the township, but maybe not. In some cases, these built-up areas would incorporate separately and (in New Jersey's case) break off from the township. But we're still very much left with the idea that these places, whether separately incorporated or just localities inside the township, amount to "dots on the map" that make good destinations for wayfinding, whereas the township is still a line drawn broadly around an area and thus not appropriately specific for this purpose.
As your daily life shows, of course, this distinction today is incompatible with real development patterns. A township like Hillsborough could be totally built over by 40,000 residents who all identify the area as "Hillsborough", eclipsing any of the centralized settlements that might once have defined the area. But some geographers still regard the place only as a division of land, and it's still the traditional "dots on the map"–like Harrisonville–that are retained as destinations.
Oops, I meant if you look at Google Maps (without typing anything), Hillsborough doesn't show up, unlike Harlingen and Somerville and Manville which do. It doesn't seem to be labeled anymore, which I dislike.
(This is also why it's widely known that the second-largest city in New York is Buffalo, even though the second-largest group-of-people-all-encompassed-by-the-same-government is the town of Hempstead, by a considerable margin.)
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Quote from: Zeffy on April 04, 2016, 10:48:16 AM
Oops, I meant if you look at Google Maps (without typing anything), Hillsborough doesn't show up, unlike Harlingen and Somerville and Manville which do. It doesn't seem to be labeled anymore, which I dislike.
Yeah, there's something algorithmic about how Google chooses to display or suppress labels for minor civil divisions. I'm not sure if the reason is categorical or simply label placement priority.
I'm not sure why none of the commercial mapping services seem to make much effort to competently display governmental boundaries as distinct from point-based placenames. I would think this information is more pertinent than it's made out to be.
I question the validity of "Caiman Creek Interchange" on I-35 (https://goo.gl/maps/Bt6ohLMhfMM2) in south Texas. There is no community named Caiman Creek (unlike the other named interchanges between Laredo and San Antonio). Caiman Creek itself is a minor creek that is only 10 miles long. If these signs did not exist, would anybody at all refer to this location as the Caiman Creek Interchange??
Quote from: kphoger on April 05, 2016, 06:29:09 PM
I question the validity of "Caiman Creek Interchange" on I-35 (https://goo.gl/maps/Bt6ohLMhfMM2) in south Texas. There is no community named Caiman Creek (unlike the other named interchanges between Laredo and San Antonio). Caiman Creek itself is a minor creek that is only 10 miles long. If these signs did not exist, would anybody at all refer to this location as the Caiman Creek Interchange??
What's most odd about that to me is that the interchange
itself is the destination.
Quote from: kphoger on April 05, 2016, 06:29:09 PM
I question the validity of "Caiman Creek Interchange" on I-35 (https://goo.gl/maps/Bt6ohLMhfMM2) in south Texas. There is no community named Caiman Creek (unlike the other named interchanges between Laredo and San Antonio). Caiman Creek itself is a minor creek that is only 10 miles long. If these signs did not exist, would anybody at all refer to this location as the Caiman Creek Interchange??
At least they gave it a name. Most other rural exits aren't so lucky.
But that's my point exactly. Most rural exits in Texas with no legitimate destination get a route number or road name only; those with no appreciable crossroad are simply labeled "Frontage Rd". Why did they feel the need along this stretch of highway to make up interchange names? The Caiman Creek Interchange is basically just a spot to turn around. It should be labeled "Frontage Rd" and nothing more.
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/colorado070/i-070_eb_exit_119_09.jpg)
Quote from: kphoger on April 05, 2016, 07:41:59 PM
But that's my point exactly. Most rural exits in Texas with no legitimate destination get a route number or road name only; those with no appreciable crossroad are simply labeled "Frontage Rd". Why did they feel the need along this stretch of highway to make up interchange names? The Caiman Creek Interchange is basically just a spot to turn around. It should be labeled "Frontage Rd" and nothing more.
Some aren't even that lucky. Some have no signage other than a gore sign.
Quote from: national highway 1 on April 07, 2016, 07:24:12 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/colorado070/i-070_eb_exit_119_09.jpg)
Funny thing about that exit was that it was called "No Name" when nothing was there, but it's now a CDP with 123 people. Exit 218 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6989907,-105.8680923,3a,75y,83.94h,72.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqVxyVxE0UOcGf7pXCk4Ixg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) really has no name[/url].
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 20, 2016, 12:29:09 AM
NJDOT used to sign all sorts of little dinky areas on small green signs all over the state.
I think I remember seeing those on US 9 when I was a little kid, mostly at the jughandles.
Exit 56 off of I-84 in Oregon kind of leads you to nowhere.
Not sure if this meets the criteria of the thread, but Tennyson (TX) (https://goo.gl/maps/9LLB5Q3xVu12) had a population of 64 as of the 2000 census. A post office and church have somehow managed to remain. A better destination, IMO, would simply be Hwy 277.
I-80's last exit in California before the Nevada border, "Farad" (Exit 201), leads to a surface street called Mystic Road. Farad itself is apparently a former settlement according to Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farad,_California
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4203851,-120.0331002,3a,75y,334.3h,78.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWEQREAoUsRQ3mkCWjGqapQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: kphoger on April 07, 2016, 05:09:32 PM
Not sure if this meets the criteria of the thread, but Tennyson (TX) (https://goo.gl/maps/9LLB5Q3xVu12) had a population of 64 as of the 2000 census. A post office and church have somehow managed to remain. A better destination, IMO, would simply be Hwy 277.
On a minor route in a rural area, a community of that size seems like a pretty reasonable destination. It's still an inhabited place with local services, and it's not like you hit any bigger places along the way.