I consider an industrial wasteland to have these:
1. At least one river
2. A lot of industrial facilities
3. Railroads (you have to see them)
Gary, Indiana.
Chester, Pennsylvania
Caldwell, ID
Battle Creek, Michigan, to the immediate west of downtown is quite an industrial wasteland. I would consider a wasteland to have several abandoned factory sites. Just about anyplace with a closed/abandoned paper mill would also qualify, although there are efforts to redevelop many of those sites.
Cairo, Illinois.
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such a friendly welcome!
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would you vote for a man named Street Preacher?
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behold the vibrance and activity.
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some of the buildings have just entirely given up out of sheer despair.
the town is at the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers - how on earth they managed to screw up such a strategic location, I will never know. Ask Mr. Preacher, I suppose.
I welcome any photos showing Detroit! Ryan sent me a few months ago. Anyone else have any?
Cleveland, OH, Calumet City, IL, and just south of Los Angeles.
Quote from: Chris petite on October 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PM
Cleveland, OH, Calumet City, IL, and just south of Los Angeles.
There are certainly parts of Cleveland that qualify. However, it would be unfair to paint the whole city that way.
Other cities in the region with sections of town that would qualify:
Youngstown, OH
Pittsburgh, PA (as I said some parts, other parts of Pittsburgh are very nice)
Ashtabula, OH
And further afield:
Wilmington, DE along the river
sections of Knoxville and Chatanooga, TN
The "chemical coast" section of Houston, TX and surrounding cities
Quote from: mightyace on October 15, 2009, 05:32:29 PM
Wilmington, DE along the river
Wilmington has dramatically revitalized their riverfront, tearing down most of the industrial sites and replacing them with shops, offices, Frawley Stadium, etc. Even portions of the South Bridge community have seen revitalization on the river (however areas just south of there remain extremely blighted). Overall the northeast side (Eastlawn), areas along and east of U.S. 13 (Church/Spruce Streets), and the aforementioned South Bridge remain in a serious state of poverty. Sections of Westside between 6th Street and Delaware 48 (Lancaster Avenue) remain riddled with crime and gang problems too.
There was a nice site (http://www.addresswilmington.com) covering the renewal of Wilmington and its growing skyline, but it appears to be dead.
Quote from: AARoads on October 15, 2009, 05:42:44 PM
Wilmington has dramatically revitalized their riverfront, tearing down most of the industrial sites and replacing them with shops, offices, Frawley Stadium, etc. Even portions of the South Bridge community have seen revitalization on the river (however areas just south of there remain extremely blighted). Overall the northeast side (Eastlawn), areas along and east of U.S. 13 (Church/Spruce Streets), and the aforementioned South Bridge remain in a serious state of poverty. Sections of Westside between 6th Street and Delaware 48 (Lancaster Avenue) remain riddled with crime and gang problems too.
so basically they took down the old signs, but made no actual progress on behalf of their citizens. Yippeekayay. I want my '61 spec shields back.
Quote from: AARoads on October 15, 2009, 05:42:44 PM
Quote from: mightyace on October 15, 2009, 05:32:29 PM
Wilmington, DE along the river
Wilmington has dramatically revitalized their riverfront, tearing down most of the industrial sites and replacing them with shops, offices, Frawley Stadium, etc.
Well my memories are 25 or 30 years out of date! :banghead:
Kearny, NJ and anywhere near the Meadowlands.
Pittsburgh is not as much a wasteland as it used to be. Most of the mill sites are now some kind of complex and the neighborhoods are getting a little better.
Also, the entire city of Camden, NJ. Waterfront and all.
"You know what I'd consider an industrial wasteland, all of NEW JERSEY!"
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The port of Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
30 miles of continuous refineries, coal harbors, container terminals, car terminals, oil storage tanks, power plants, power lines, railroads, shipping and freeways.
I took this pic in 2005, it was even published in a Belgian earth science school book.
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-Marcus Hook, PA
-Spots along the south New Jersey Delaware River waterfront
-all of northeastern New Jersey
-parts of Baltimore
Quote from: Chris on October 16, 2009, 01:46:42 PM
The port of Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
30 miles of continuous refineries, coal harbors, container terminals, car terminals, oil storage tanks, power plants, power lines, railroads, shipping and freeways.
I took this pic in 2005, it was even published in a Belgian earth science school book.
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Hey, that road looks too nice for an industrial wasteland! (at least here in America) I expect roads in an industrial wasteland are to be in an advanced state of decay. :-D
You know what I'd consider as one?
Menomonee River Valley in Milwaukee (no thats not the reason I-94 is very depressed :-P, there was actually an abandoned railroad there that followed that route)
NE Minneapolis and SE St. Paul (dont forget the Mississippi River :-D)
Just south of that double-decker section of I-64 in STL.
There was even this razor blade commercial turning the wasteland into nice mountains
Northern Lake County, Indiana. Anything north of the toll road.
Quote from: mightyace on October 15, 2009, 05:32:29 PMPittsburgh, PA (as I said some parts, other parts of Pittsburgh are very nice)
Most of where the mills were located have been cleared and are now used for other purposes. The Mon Valley, which took the brunt of the steel industry collapse, is where you will still find relics of the industrial past as well as the survivors in Braddock's Edgar Thompson Works and the Clairton Coke Works.
Well San Angelo has a steel company, railroad tracks, a river, a new wind turbine manufactoring company(under construction) and multiple other factories, would this count...
BigMatt
Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 16, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
-all of northeastern New Jersey
Then, no offense, but you're an idiot. And I would say that to anyone who thinks that.
If you want to know where the industrial wastelands are in NE NJ: Carteret. Port Newark/Elizabeth aren't so much industrial as heavy commercial. There's a lot of warehousing near the NJ Turnpike in general. That's no more than 5% of the total land area of NE NJ and about 1% of the roadscape.
Quote from: njroadhorse on October 15, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
Kearny, NJ and anywhere near the Meadowlands.
Pittsburgh is not as much a wasteland as it used to be. Most of the mill sites are now some kind of complex and the neighborhoods are getting a little better.
Also, the entire city of Camden, NJ. Waterfront and all.
I have to defend NJ against a New Jerseyan? Really? Kearny, believe it or not, is a town. Try driving NJ 17 through it. The Meadowlands has light industry and heavy commerce (i.e. warehousing) between itself and Teterboro. The Meadowlands itself is just a swamp, though.
Camden? Industrial wasteland? I don't think you've been off of I-676 or US 30 based on your response, especially re: the waterfront.
Quote from: AARoads on October 15, 2009, 12:01:30 PM
I welcome any photos showing Detroit! Ryan sent me a few months ago. Anyone else have any?
I'm sitting on a bunch but I'm focusing on my roads pages for the time being (and gotta get this damn update out). Besides, I only took photos of the cool stuff, not the wasteland stuff. The industrial wasteland I saw is near the river and south of the city (M-85 corridor) or along the Jeffries (I-96) west of the city, IIRC.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 23, 2009, 07:46:37 AM
Quote from: njroadhorse on October 15, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
Kearny, NJ and anywhere near the Meadowlands.
Pittsburgh is not as much a wasteland as it used to be. Most of the mill sites are now some kind of complex and the neighborhoods are getting a little better.
Also, the entire city of Camden, NJ. Waterfront and all.
I have to defend NJ against a New Jerseyan? Really? Kearny, believe it or not, is a town. Try driving NJ 17 through it. The Meadowlands has light industry and heavy commerce (i.e. warehousing) between itself and Teterboro. The Meadowlands itself is just a swamp, though.
Camden? Industrial wasteland? I don't think you've been off of I-676 or US 30 based on your response, especially re: the waterfront.
Kearny is rather beautiful, especially in the Arlington section. State street in Perth Amboy is major industry north & south of the city itself
okay fellers, to avoid this sort of conflict, and to make the thread one Hell of a lot more interesting. From now on: pictures.
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the oil fields of Taft, California.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 23, 2009, 09:53:40 AM
the oil fields of Taft, California.
I think that simply qualifies as a wasteland, period.
The suburbs of Paris (well, the social housing burbs)
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Quote from: mightyace on October 23, 2009, 03:51:21 PM
I think that simply qualifies as a wasteland, period.
it is a major oil drilling area... the only decent photo I happened to have was the one of the yellow stop sign, not the endless lines of derricks.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 23, 2009, 07:44:22 AM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 16, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
-all of northeastern New Jersey
Then, no offense, but you're an idiot. And I would say that to anyone who thinks that.
If you want to know where the industrial wastelands are in NE NJ: Carteret. Port Newark/Elizabeth aren't so much industrial as heavy commercial. There's a lot of warehousing near the NJ Turnpike in general. That's no more than 5% of the total land area of NE NJ and about 1% of the roadscape.
Alright, I'm sorry. It's just that the parts of northeastern NJ look like a wasteland. Jeeze.
Helpful note: don't denigrate entire regions without considering that people who live there may know better.
Those pictures of Parisian suburbs look similar to what is left of the cities near Chernobyl, Ukraine, only the French buildings are inhabited. Very sad.
Quote from: AARoads on October 15, 2009, 12:01:30 PM
I welcome any photos showing Detroit! Ryan sent me a few months ago. Anyone else have any?
You can lose yourself for hours, if not days, at DetroitYES (http://detroityes.com/0tourdetroit.htm).
Here's Camden, NJ:
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Quote from: Chris on October 23, 2009, 03:58:21 PM
The suburbs of Paris (well, the social housing burbs)
Wow. Those remind me of the Robert Taylor Homes that used to exist along the Dan Ryan Expressway (I-90/94). :wow:
Emelle, AL. Home to the world's largest Hazmat Dump
I went exploring in the Red Arroyo behind my house, and about half a mile from my house, and I went to a storm drainage culvert and saw all this graffiti.
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BigMatt
Times Beach, MO
Centralia, PA
Quote from: florida on November 15, 2009, 01:29:23 PM
Times Beach, MO
Centralia, PA
I don't think a resort community for rich people counts an an
industrial wasteland, even though it later became a Superfund site and demolished ;)
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 16, 2009, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: florida on November 15, 2009, 01:29:23 PM
Times Beach, MO
Centralia, PA
I don't think a resort community for rich people counts an an industrial wasteland, even though it later became a Superfund site and demolished ;)
Not every place can be as poor as Chernobyl ;-) I didn't even know it was a community for rich people since any pictures I saw were of ratty houses on dirt roads.
I think this thread more of reflects urban decay rather than industrial wasteland. The two sort of go hand in hand, but most of the images posted above reflect derelict neighborhoods then industry.
OK, here's one (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.499229,-1.998503&spn=0,359.981976&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=52.499132,-1.998435&panoid=zFeTQIxxdNHHJwJ_Z6HB_w&cbp=12,15.4,,0,-8.45) near me which is non-residential. It's a Google streetview image but I go past it nearly every day and it's been in this state for over a year now. The large brick structure to the right is also closed down and metal fencing has been installed over the windows to keep vandals out :-D
Quote from: Truvelo on November 17, 2009, 01:42:16 PM
OK, here's one (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.499229,-1.998503&spn=0,359.981976&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=52.499132,-1.998435&panoid=zFeTQIxxdNHHJwJ_Z6HB_w&cbp=12,15.4,,0,-8.45) near me which is non-residential. It's a Google streetview image but I go past it nearly every day and it's been in this state for over a year now.
Nice example of a shuttered industrial site. My previous comment about urban decay is to not discourage imagery of those examples from being posted. I certainly welcome those, as urban decay is one of my interests overall.
With the current recession and economic crisis there's never been a better time to see examples of closed businesses. A good place at the moment, in the UK anyway, is the High Street. You guys probably call it Main Street. There are plenty of store fronts covered in For Sale and To Let signs. A common feature with closed stores is to cover the windows in a white substance, I assume to stop potential burglars seeing what's inside.
Another thing that's been going on for years is the closing of pubs and gas stations. High taxation is the likely cause of the demise of these. You can buy four cans of beer in a supermarket for the price of a single glass in a pub. With gas stations it's the low profit from fuel that's leading to closures, particularly the independent mom and pop garages that can't compete with the big guys.
I took this picture of a local pub a couple of years ago. I'm not sure if it's still there as many are sold off to be replaced by housing. Closed gas stations also suffer the same fate.
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Check out the thread Brutal New York (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=402544) on the Skyscrapercity forums. It shows pictures of the urban decay in New York City between 1965 and 1995. Some previews:
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Flint, MI
Quote from: Chris on November 17, 2009, 04:10:36 PM
Check out the thread Brutal New York (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=402544) on the Skyscrapercity forums. It shows pictures of the urban decay in New York City between 1965 and 1995. Some previews:
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Now, of course, Chris, New York has been fixed up really well...you can't find places like that in NYC anymore, I'm proud to say!
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on November 24, 2009, 03:42:12 PM
Now, of course, Chris, New York has been fixed up really well...you can't find places like that in NYC anymore, I'm proud to say!
I know, just today I was browsing with Streetview through the Bronx. Most of those pics above are in Google Earth as well, but they do not look anything like they looked before the 90's. NYC shaped up great from the 90's onward.
By the way, I've read today Camden, NJ was once again America's most dangerous city in 2008.
the wasteland now looks like this.
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pretty depressing.
there are, fortunately, plenty of places in New York that are a lot more fun. Chinatown (lower Manhattan), Queens Blvd, etc...
Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 24, 2009, 04:13:44 PM
the wasteland now looks like this.
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pretty depressing.
there are, fortunately, plenty of places in New York that are a lot more fun. Chinatown (lower Manhattan), Queens Blvd, etc...
You may say depressing, but at least it's a sign of progress. That said, I agree with you that starbucks isn't what NY is about it...NYC is a fabulous city, no doubt.
Ybor City, Tampa, FL
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on November 24, 2009, 05:24:40 PM
You may say depressing, but at least it's a sign of progress. That said, I agree with you that starbucks isn't what NY is about it...NYC is a fabulous city, no doubt.
no, there are about 47321890 better, or at least more interesting, coffee places in NYC. luckily even the Harlem batch from which I extracted that Starbucks photo has a lot of small-business storefronts; good to know the rebuilding is not brought to you solely by faceless chains.
Brooklyn still has a very "1980s New York" feel to it - in everything ranging from its businesses to its graffiti to its non-gentrified population distributions... but without the rampant violent crime. I've felt perfectly safe walking around and taking the subway in Brooklyn around 2-6am.
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^Hirschfeld Industries, the corporate headquarters are in San Angelo.
BigMatt
Steubenville,OH/Weirton,WV. Although the 4th St. historic district in Steubenville is very nice and shows a glimmer of what that city could be if it got its act together.
The. Whole. World.
Jokes aside, I saw some images of Detroit and it doesn't look to good. I cant say Thunder Bay is anything better but we aren't a ghost town ... yet. If I think further, I can think of more but I don't have time though I'd imagine every city has its wasteland spots.