(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8003/29672103602_5c1b02817f_k_d.jpg)
This is at County S and U in Northern Kewaunee County telling motorists that they can take either road to Sturgeon Bay
"Baseball Hall of Fame: Exit 24 or 17"
(I-88 in New York, westbound, exits are sequential)
I'm not sure if I'm understand this correct, but here's one:
I-83 Exit 46B, the control city is Hershey
I-81 Exit 77, the control city is also Hershey
For over 30 years the guide sign at the US 78-SC 61 jct had Charleston as a destination on both routes:
https://goo.gl/maps/QSMdePgYpRU2
The 2016 GMSV shows a new sign with only Branchville given for US 78...
A well known one in the Spanish internet was located here (https://www.google.es/maps/@42.4616227,-7.5867186,3a,18.9y,352.93h,88.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scA2IArBSyIT0M-YNbSG08w!2e0). The sign that used to stand there said 'N-120 Ourense Monforte' in both directions!
Then there's this one I caught a couple years ago:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5TcJeuIUAEWbfz.jpg)
Currently the right one is greened whited out, although it is still possible to enter the road by turning right. Note that the left one hides something. Indeed, that entrance will be closed as works on this freeway section progress, and both whiteouts will be removed. At that point, turning left will only access a nearby dam.
I've seen this one on the forum before. Emporia KS signs for Kansas City via I-35 or I-335 to I-70:
https://goo.gl/maps/mZbYePzYbT12
Entrance ramp signage for US 3 South from MA 62 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5014503,-71.2463625,3a,75y,83.09h,86.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skshstH8Bo-e0EFsEv5tocA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Adjacent sign facing traffic entering MA 62 (from US 3 South) (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5014796,-71.2461964,3a,75y,106.94h,83.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjkdX3o4NJM3bqbXjoKG7ug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Atlantic City from the Garden State Parkway:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4146608,-74.5532017,3a,75y,194.57h,82.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4O08fJwwsc2mdobTca4G4A!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
US90 between Knippa and Uvalde, Texas:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/719/21233824830_6411a35456_o.jpg)
Rural routes whose endpoints are both at the same highway. Any third route intersecting it will likely have "Route ##" as both destinations.
Quote from: 1 on September 19, 2016, 05:08:10 AM
"Baseball Hall of Fame: Exit 24 or 17"
(I-88 in New York, westbound, exits are sequential)
This kind of stuff drives me up a wall. The "Camden Yards: Next 6 Exits" sign coming down I-83 into Baltimore is diabolical.
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 19, 2016, 05:08:10 AM
"Baseball Hall of Fame: Exit 24 or 17"
(I-88 in New York, westbound, exits are sequential)
This kind of stuff drives me up a wall. The "Camden Yards: Next 6 Exits" sign coming down I-83 into Baltimore is diabolical.
In case of Baseball hall of fame - problem is that there are many way to get there, but none of them is
the road.
Google suggests 3 routes - exits 21, 24 and 25, pick any one. exit 17 would be going to Colliersville and taking north on rt. 28.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Albany,+NY/National+Baseball+Hall+of+Fame+and+Museum,+25+Main+St,+Cooperstown,+NY+13326/@42.7616787,-74.5327658,10z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x89de0a34cc4ffb4b:0xe1a16312a0e728c4!1m2!1m1!1s0x89dc072711fb2c8b:0x4c857db79bbf0385!3e0
Quote from: kalvado on September 19, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 19, 2016, 05:08:10 AM
"Baseball Hall of Fame: Exit 24 or 17"
(I-88 in New York, westbound, exits are sequential)
This kind of stuff drives me up a wall. The "Camden Yards: Next 6 Exits" sign coming down I-83 into Baltimore is diabolical.
In case of Baseball hall of fame - problem is that there are many way to get there, but none of them is the road.
Google suggests 3 routes - exits 21, 24 and 25, pick any one. exit 17 would be going to Colliersville and taking north on rt. 28.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Albany,+NY/National+Baseball+Hall+of+Fame+and+Museum,+25+Main+St,+Cooperstown,+NY+13326/@42.7616787,-74.5327658,10z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x89de0a34cc4ffb4b:0xe1a16312a0e728c4!1m2!1m1!1s0x89dc072711fb2c8b:0x4c857db79bbf0385!3e0
NYDOT or whoever is responsible for this still ought to just pick one in each direction. Adding any amount of potential indecision to the motorist's plate just isn't helpful. I can't imagine that there would be
so much volume heading for the HOF on a daily basis that it'd be some kind of traffic disaster (fear of which is pretty clearly the reason for the Camden Yards ambiguity) on, say, U.S. 20 if they just directed everyone there who was coming in from the east. (And Exit 21 seems to be about the worst of the options, to me - way more twists and turns and changing roads just to save 5 minutes).
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: kalvado on September 19, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 19, 2016, 05:08:10 AM
"Baseball Hall of Fame: Exit 24 or 17"
(I-88 in New York, westbound, exits are sequential)
This kind of stuff drives me up a wall. The "Camden Yards: Next 6 Exits" sign coming down I-83 into Baltimore is diabolical.
In case of Baseball hall of fame - problem is that there are many way to get there, but none of them is the road.
Google suggests 3 routes - exits 21, 24 and 25, pick any one. exit 17 would be going to Colliersville and taking north on rt. 28.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Albany,+NY/National+Baseball+Hall+of+Fame+and+Museum,+25+Main+St,+Cooperstown,+NY+13326/@42.7616787,-74.5327658,10z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x89de0a34cc4ffb4b:0xe1a16312a0e728c4!1m2!1m1!1s0x89dc072711fb2c8b:0x4c857db79bbf0385!3e0
NYDOT or whoever is responsible for this still ought to just pick one in each direction.
Business interests at the exits not chosen would throw a fit. Have to remember that NYSDOT is a political organization and is therefore subject to influence from such fits.
When the Northeast Expressway first opened between Chelsea and Revere (MA), the double "paddle" sign at the entrance ramp from Route 60 in Revere read "Expressway to Boston Via Bridge (referring to the Mystic River Bridge) " and "60 Boston Via Tunnel" (referring to the Sumner Tunnel).
Quote from: Rothman on September 20, 2016, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: kalvado on September 19, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 19, 2016, 05:08:10 AM
"Baseball Hall of Fame: Exit 24 or 17"
(I-88 in New York, westbound, exits are sequential)
This kind of stuff drives me up a wall. The "Camden Yards: Next 6 Exits" sign coming down I-83 into Baltimore is diabolical.
In case of Baseball hall of fame - problem is that there are many way to get there, but none of them is the road.
Google suggests 3 routes - exits 21, 24 and 25, pick any one. exit 17 would be going to Colliersville and taking north on rt. 28.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Albany,+NY/National+Baseball+Hall+of+Fame+and+Museum,+25+Main+St,+Cooperstown,+NY+13326/@42.7616787,-74.5327658,10z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x89de0a34cc4ffb4b:0xe1a16312a0e728c4!1m2!1m1!1s0x89dc072711fb2c8b:0x4c857db79bbf0385!3e0
NYDOT or whoever is responsible for this still ought to just pick one in each direction.
Business interests at the exits not chosen would throw a fit. Have to remember that NYSDOT is a political organization and is therefore subject to influence from such fits.
There's also a traffic thruput issue. If just one exit was used, on the days when the Hall of Fame is packed, it would potentially lead to gridlock conditions trying to get there. Thus, by using multiple existing roads, the traffic can be spread out.
Same thing with the Baltimore example above...better to spread traffic out, as no one route can handle all the traffic going to Camden Yards. Besides, depending on the parking lot, you have to use certain exits to get to specific lots.
MA-3A & MA-14 in Duxbury, MA: Both routes point to Boston
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0486588,-70.6918438,3a,60y,310.61h,105.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siPHtIecP97pkDSDmjhnnYA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0486588,-70.6918438,3a,60y,310.61h,105.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siPHtIecP97pkDSDmjhnnYA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)
I-35 & TX-130 in Georgetown, TX: Both routes used to point to Austin up until 2013 (see historical street view imagery).
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7047709,-97.6510142,3a,75y,201.2h,91.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1seXCGJSSsTtsSj8-f9qdp9A!2e0!5s20130801T000000!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7047709,-97.6510142,3a,75y,201.2h,91.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1seXCGJSSsTtsSj8-f9qdp9A!2e0!5s20130801T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
At the end of the road leading out of Peggy's Cove:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F020819c7.jpg&hash=86fcc66e1532cae96a4acb2f8bf93ce68f936019)
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 21, 2016, 01:32:58 PM
At the end of the road leading out of Peggy's Cove:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F020819c7.jpg&hash=86fcc66e1532cae96a4acb2f8bf93ce68f936019)
Strangely, the difference in travel time between going either way is probably within minutes.
Quote from: Rothman on September 21, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 21, 2016, 01:32:58 PM
At the end of the road leading out of Peggy's Cove:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F020819c7.jpg&hash=86fcc66e1532cae96a4acb2f8bf93ce68f936019)
Strangely, the difference in travel time between going either way is probably within minutes.
I believe that's right due to the higher speed limit if you go left out to Route 103, despite it being about 10 km further.
I-78/US 22 eastbound prior to the 2 routes splitting. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.583534,-75.6044932,3a,75y,59.51h,81.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srnn4t6QCMKuyhzS1COeo_w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
I-81 southbound prior to the I-83 interchange. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3251873,-76.80877,3a,75y,245.77h,90.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQv4gGMbFhMumzE-P0nlYmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
I'm surprised this hasn't popped up yet:
Chicago via... (https://goo.gl/maps/MMGkbtyjRDD2) on I-94 eastbound.
For Ohio...
Exit 118, shows Sandusky (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3240896,-82.6033734,3a,19.8y,276.13h,98.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHPcaXYA3E2gXImahFxUwbQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Exit 110, also shows Sandusky (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3405812,-82.7617545,3a,17.8y,287.75h,91.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfAAThd3fYVFb_gx--pTB-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 21, 2016, 04:58:12 PM
For Ohio...
Exit 118, shows Sandusky (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3240896,-82.6033734,3a,19.8y,276.13h,98.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHPcaXYA3E2gXImahFxUwbQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Exit 110, also shows Sandusky (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3405812,-82.7617545,3a,17.8y,287.75h,91.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfAAThd3fYVFb_gx--pTB-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
To clarify, I'm looking for the same sign or sign assembly like the first photo I posted on this thread with the same destination accessible by the signs pointing different directions. Having the same control city for different exits is fairly common in larger areas and that is not what I'm looking for.
Quote from: peterj920 on September 21, 2016, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 21, 2016, 04:58:12 PM
For Ohio...
Exit 118, shows Sandusky (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3240896,-82.6033734,3a,19.8y,276.13h,98.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHPcaXYA3E2gXImahFxUwbQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Exit 110, also shows Sandusky (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3405812,-82.7617545,3a,17.8y,287.75h,91.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfAAThd3fYVFb_gx--pTB-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
To clarify, I'm looking for the same sign or sign assembly like the first photo I posted on this thread with the same destination accessible by the signs pointing different directions. Having the same control city for different exits is fairly common in larger areas and that is not what I'm looking for.
Indeed. I mean, think about towns with business loops...
US 421/KY 80 in Hyden, Ky.
https://goo.gl/maps/eVEE8DB4rdT2
Chicago via I-290 or I-90 on SB IL 53 in Rolling Meadows (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0733579,-88.0278653,3a,34.3y,164.97h,91.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1st2uS3OPFakNP5xTO3MDoiQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: Rothman on September 20, 2016, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: kalvado on September 19, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 19, 2016, 05:08:10 AM
"Baseball Hall of Fame: Exit 24 or 17"
(I-88 in New York, westbound, exits are sequential)
This kind of stuff drives me up a wall. The "Camden Yards: Next 6 Exits" sign coming down I-83 into Baltimore is diabolical.
In case of Baseball hall of fame - problem is that there are many way to get there, but none of them is the road.
Google suggests 3 routes - exits 21, 24 and 25, pick any one. exit 17 would be going to Colliersville and taking north on rt. 28.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Albany,+NY/National+Baseball+Hall+of+Fame+and+Museum,+25+Main+St,+Cooperstown,+NY+13326/@42.7616787,-74.5327658,10z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x89de0a34cc4ffb4b:0xe1a16312a0e728c4!1m2!1m1!1s0x89dc072711fb2c8b:0x4c857db79bbf0385!3e0
NYDOT or whoever is responsible for this still ought to just pick one in each direction.
Business interests at the exits not chosen would throw a fit. Have to remember that NYSDOT is a political organization and is therefore subject to influence from such fits.
Is each route clearly marked and is each route more or less equivalent in distance? If that is the case, then there could be multiple exits to lead to the destination.
Quote from: wphiii on September 19, 2016, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 19, 2016, 05:08:10 AM
"Baseball Hall of Fame: Exit 24 or 17"
(I-88 in New York, westbound, exits are sequential)
This kind of stuff drives me up a wall. The "Camden Yards: Next 6 Exits" sign coming down I-83 into Baltimore is diabolical.
And here is the sign!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F446xuwT.jpg&hash=1374e339fc388081ee1a54624da827503c4da21f)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ozroads.com.au%2FNSW%2FRouteNumbering%2FMetroads%2F1%2F20.JPG&hash=c948f2bb64c21392054afe7210daf5653f04fbc7)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ozroads.com.au%2FNSW%2FFreeways%2FWesternDistributor%2FMap%25203%2FVictoria%2520Rd-AD3.JPG&hash=7ee245692d706c9611b2121db9647cc0aa90ee58)
US 1/MA 114 cloverleaf in Danvers, MA:
Ramp to US 1 South from MA 114 Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5619105,-70.9788855,3a,75y,168.99h,82.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suo0BOQPuxDHq7-rRCecnsg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Ramp to MA 114 East from US 1 Southbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5606982,-70.9776065,3a,75y,198.5h,74.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbV-7XqVlJlbZHjk63mWZiw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ozroads.com.au%2FNSW%2FFreeways%2FWesternDistributor%2FMap%25203%2FVictoria%2520Rd-AD3.JPG&hash=7ee245692d706c9611b2121db9647cc0aa90ee58)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upstatenyroads.com%2Faaroads%2Fnew_hartford.png&hash=ab28f7363585b988fcbb635b9775c60b7bccf416)
British Columbia has a few, all bannered with the oh-so-empowering YOUR CHOICE header. Here's one:
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/2/1226/1143006286_3fbca75332_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2K1cWW)
Kamloops Your Choice TC-1 East (https://flic.kr/p/2K1cWW) by Zach (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacharymaillard/), on Flickr
Noticed an interesting one on I-990 yesterday:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0086043,-78.8036687,3a,75y,138.46h,89.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stv1g8DCbIVziVL52cxfu5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Exit 29A & Exit 37A Northern State Parkway Westbound exits to I-495 West Both BGS New York
Exit 42 I-495 Long Island Expressway Westbound exits to Northern State Westbound Both BGS New York
When there are two roads that go to the same destination, what else can one do but sign both of them for that destination?
If the two roads are really equivalent in getting there, then both should be signed to there. If one is considerably longer, then it shouldn't be signed for the destination.
That being said, if two roads go to the same ultimate destination, but pass through two different destinations - then it is better to have both roads signed for the ultimate destination but each road singed for its intermediate destination. One key example of this is I-5/170 in the LA area. Currently, I-5 is signed for LA and 170 for Hollywood, but both roads go to LA. I think a better control at this split would be: I-5: Burbank/LA , 170: Hollywood/LA
I'm surprised that nobody mentioned this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8201569,-75.4485769,3a,75y,222.82h,79.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skN-6DrJYIXJcZ-wLVQaQ-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) yet. Note (to those unfamiliar with the area): Port of Wilmington is not a separate municipality from the City of Wilmington.
The yellow LOCAL TRAFFIC and THRU TRAFFIC placards were added later.
US 30 and SR-49/2 in northwest Indiana.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4513372,-87.0229349,3a,75y,310.66h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSLtg9uIcf0GKw4DgPFy_UA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2FExplore%2FAlt-2-SLC%2Falt_rts_slc.jpg&hash=514583f7d79793a0277a2df43a06a7a5d310d905)
When you are this far west out of Denver on I-70 (35 miles +/- ), the word "Alternate" is not really appropriate -- they are pretty much your only choices at this point!