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National Boards => General Highway Talk => Topic started by: dzlsabe on September 25, 2016, 10:55:56 PM

Title: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: dzlsabe on September 25, 2016, 10:55:56 PM
Has such a thing been considered, tested, maybe even built somewhere? This would be a translucent suspended tarp, akin to an indoor golf dome over a multi lane highway or intersections.

It would stop rain and snow from hitting the roadway, which would decrease maintenance esp. in winter, make roads last longer, on E-W roads eliminate the blazing sunrise or sunset, decrease radiation making roadways cooler and all those AC units running easier, be a sound-barrier to decrease the spread of roadway noise.

Certainly would have to be robust to deal with wind gusts and heavy snowfall and designed to be well ventilated.
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: hbelkins on September 26, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
I can't imagine how expensive such a contraption would have to be to support the weight of the canopy plus snow accumulation. The canopy we had over a portion of our dog kennel collapsed last winter under the weight of a heavy, wet snow.
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: kalvado on September 26, 2016, 12:27:38 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 26, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
I can't imagine how expensive such a contraption would have to be to support the weight of the canopy plus snow accumulation. The canopy we had over a portion of our dog kennel collapsed last winter under the weight of a heavy, wet snow.
And a picture of collapse in a really big doghouse...
(https://www.aopa.org/-/media/images/legacy/aopa/home/news/all/2010/winter-blast-hits-dulles-airport/slide03.jpg?la=en)
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: coatimundi on September 26, 2016, 12:45:54 PM
California, and particularly Highway 1, has several rock shelters that are large concrete canopies. This is one of the most recent ones built, but they're actively buildong another just to the north of there.
http://www.discover-central-california.com/rain-rocks-rock-shed.html

Highway 1 is notoriously bad for rock slides and tends to close for a few days at least once each winter for clearing, effectively cutting off residents and turning tourist dollars around. So it was necessary here.
But snow and ice maintenance costs are not nearly enough to warrant something like this, unless there were issues with avalanches. And, if I'm not mistaken, there are a couple avalanche shelters on highways out there.
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: mhh on September 26, 2016, 12:46:32 PM
 We already have covered roadways. They're called tunnels.
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: spooky on September 26, 2016, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: mhh on September 26, 2016, 12:46:32 PM
We already have covered roadways. They're called tunnels.

sorry, this guy doesn't understand those.
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: NE2 on September 26, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
For sound:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F3d%2FTullamarineFwy.jpg%2F1200px-TullamarineFwy.jpg&hash=5ef88acedef8a7981e900358c32bc2016d1cfd6f)
For snow: look up snowsheds.
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: dzlsabe on September 27, 2016, 02:20:28 AM
I was thinking more like a semicircle hoop of 1" rebar every 10-20? ft. or so, but thats nice too. Four cars on a three lane road. Quaint.
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: odditude on September 27, 2016, 08:39:09 AM
Quote from: dzlsabe on September 27, 2016, 02:20:28 AM
I was thinking more like a semicircle hoop of 1" rebar every 10-20? ft. or so
problems off the top of my head:
Title: Re: Giant Highway "Umbrella"?
Post by: dzlsabe on September 27, 2016, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: odditude on September 27, 2016, 08:39:09 AM
Quote from: dzlsabe on September 27, 2016, 02:20:28 AM
I was thinking more like a semicircle hoop of 1" rebar every 10-20? ft. or so
problems off the top of my head:

  • wind loading
  • exhaust buildup
  • overheight vehicles

Hence this in the OP.."Certainly would have to be robust to deal with wind gusts and heavy snowfall and designed to be well ventilated."