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Title: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Desert Man on October 08, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
In MLB postseason (baseball for some of you), the ALDS game 2: the Toronto Blue Jays lead series after their 5-1 win vs. the Texas Rangers. They won game 1 with a score 10-0 or 1 (don't know) but the AL wild card champ did a 5-2 homer in the 11th to end the AL wild card showdown vs the Orioles. I rooted for the home team Angels but I returned to my old childhood (1990s) fave who won back to back world series titles in 1992 and 93 (and kept them in the 1994 strike when no world series was held). I want them to win the next 2, then the ALCS and the world series. They went to last year's ALDS and ALCS, so GO BLUE JAYS!  :clap:

Anyways, I'm watching the postseason game coverage all weekend: Cleveland Indians lead 2-0 vs Boston Red Sox and ALDS games 3 tomorrow (I predict a Jays vs Indians ALCS). Today is the NLDS games 2: CA teams LA Dodgers vs Washington Nats, the Dodgers won it 4-3 and SF Giants vs Chicago Cubs, who won last night 1-0. CA baseball fans hope for a Giants-Dodgers NLCS faceoff, but don't be so sure with the "cursed" Cubs had the best record of MLB this season (103! what a robust number) and the Cubs never been to the series since 1945, nor won it since 1908 (why, that's 108 years ago, my passed great-grandma was a toddler back then).
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 08, 2016, 03:40:46 PM
NLDS Game 2 is postponed until 1 PM ET tomorrow due to rain in DC from Hurricane Matthew.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 08, 2016, 03:54:27 PM
I'm all in with the Cubs (again)! If it wasn't last year like Back to the Future predicted, then they will do it this year. There's no curse in place after Alanland was closed down.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Takumi on October 08, 2016, 04:59:45 PM
With my Orioles out, I'm rooting for the Dodgers, but would be OK with any team aside from the Jays, Red Sox, or Giants winning it all.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on October 08, 2016, 03:54:27 PM
I'm all in with the Cubs (again)! If it wasn't last year like Back to the Future predicted, then they will do it this year. There's no curse in place after Alanland was closed down.

I just want to see them win so their fans can stop complaining.  Boston with the Red Sox and Cleveland with anything were bad enough to listen to for all those decades.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 1995hoo on October 09, 2016, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 08, 2016, 03:40:46 PM
NLDS Game 2 is postponed until 1 PM ET tomorrow due to rain in DC from Hurricane Matthew.

Postponement came right as we exited the elevator near our seats.

Today it's cold and windy. It didn't rain much after about 5:00 last night. Not sure whether it would have been better for them to have attempted to play in the wet or in the wind today. I guess it's windy all the time in Chicago.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 09, 2016, 11:10:18 AM
If the Toronto Blue Jays will put the Texas Rangers to rest. They'll meet Boston or Cleveland. If the Cleveland Indians will win against Boston and...Toronto. Does that mean then Cleveland will concede the title of "mistake-on-the-lake" to Toronto? ;) Sorry I couldn't resist. ^^; 
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: jp the roadgeek on October 09, 2016, 12:33:01 PM
My Sox looked great in the first 2 games :ded: :banghead:

And the weather gave us a 24 hour stay of execution.

If the Sox don't win, wouldn't mind seeing the Cubs finally end it.  Large Sox contingent there (Lester, Lackey, Ross, Rizzo was a draft pick, Theo).  Suppose I'd root for the Indians to join them in the Series (Tito, Napoli, Crisp).
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Jmiles32 on October 09, 2016, 05:42:58 PM
Lets go NATS!!!! I had pretty low expectations for them after they limped into the playoffs, but now with the series tied, with their momentum, combined with Skins win over the Ravens, I'm beginning to hope...
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: triplemultiplex on October 10, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
I'll be the first to say it: screw the Cubs.  I wish all the worst for them.  Just because your team sucked for so long doesn't make you more deserving of jack shit.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Alps on October 10, 2016, 10:28:13 PM

Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 10, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
I'll be the first to say it: screw the Cubs.  I wish all the worst for them.  Just because your team sucked for so long doesn't make you more deserving of jack shit.


Sounds like a sore Brewers fan to me.


Also: THE RED SOX GOT SWEPT!!!  :-D :D :) :clap: :happy:
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: DaBigE on October 10, 2016, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: Alps on October 10, 2016, 10:28:13 PM

Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 10, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
I'll be the first to say it: screw the Cubs.  I wish all the worst for them.  Just because your team sucked for so long doesn't make you more deserving of jack shit.


Sounds like another sore smart Brewers fan to me.


Also: THE RED SOX GOT SWEPT!!!  :-D :D :) :clap: :happy:

Fixed it :bigass:
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: jp the roadgeek on October 11, 2016, 01:00:07 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 10, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
I'll be the first to say it: screw the Cubs.  I wish all the worst for them.  Just because your team sucked for so long doesn't make you more deserving of jack shit.
Also: THE RED SOX GOT SWEPT!!!  :-D :D :) :clap: :happy:

:verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad:  More like we didn't even show.  Terrible way for Big Papi to go out. :-(



Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: epzik8 on October 11, 2016, 07:17:58 AM
Hopefully my Nats can finish the Dodgers!
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Buck87 on October 11, 2016, 10:22:01 AM
Go Tribe!

It will be Cleveland vs. Toronto in the ALCS, just like it was Cleveland vs. Toronto in the NBA Eastern Conference Finals back in May. This is the first time that 2 cities have had both their NBA and MLB teams face each other in the semifinal rounds in the same year (since it first became possible in 1969)
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: kurumi on October 11, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
Giants are still alive after 13-inning thriller -- EYBS FTW :-)
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Desert Man on October 11, 2016, 09:14:49 PM
Quote from: kurumi on October 11, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
Giants are still alive after 13-inning thriller -- EYBS FTW :-)

and so are the Dodgers cross-state, 6-5 vs the Nats, tied the series 2-2. The "cursed" Cubs really want to get past that, then the NLCS and finally the world series. Baseball is a sport of surprises, twists and turns.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: kurumi on October 12, 2016, 12:50:07 AM
Quote from: kurumi on October 11, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
Giants are still alive after 13-inning thriller -- EYBS FTW :-)

Edit: even years not divisible by 8
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 12, 2016, 05:49:22 AM
At least the Giants kept the Mets away from sweeping the Cubs again.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: inkyatari on October 12, 2016, 12:09:35 PM
My Cubbies advance. 

What an amazing 9th inning.  Giants bullpen really sucks bad.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 14, 2016, 06:48:36 AM
Okay, the Cubs have to visit California again. I hope they don't get swept again like last year!
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Buck87 on October 14, 2016, 10:55:19 AM
So we just had the 2 teams with the longest active world series title droughts knock out the 2 teams that have won it 3 times in this century. Meanwhile in the other 2 division series, the 2 titleless teams who have owned the rights to the Washington "curly W" logo were knocked out by teams whose WS title droughts are 23 and 28 years.

This year we are guaranteed a world series in which both teams will be making their first appearance in the 21st century.

Of the 4 possible matchups, 3 would be the first ever WS matchup between those teams. The only one that would be a repeat would be Dodgers-Indians, which last occurred in 1920.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: roadman on October 14, 2016, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 11, 2016, 01:00:07 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 10, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
I'll be the first to say it: screw the Cubs.  I wish all the worst for them.  Just because your team sucked for so long doesn't make you more deserving of jack shit.
Also: THE RED SOX GOT SWEPT!!!  :-D :D :) :clap: :happy:

:verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad:  More like we didn't even show.  Terrible way for Big Papi to go out. :-(


The Red Sox performance (or lack thereof) in the 2016 ALDS is another reason why the bulk of a player's salary should be performance based.  Give them a base of $150K - want to earn more, earn it by good hitting, proper fielding, and winning games.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 14, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: roadman on October 14, 2016, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 11, 2016, 01:00:07 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 10, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
I'll be the first to say it: screw the Cubs.  I wish all the worst for them.  Just because your team sucked for so long doesn't make you more deserving of jack shit.
Also: THE RED SOX GOT SWEPT!!!  :-D :D :) :clap: :happy:

:verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad:  More like we didn't even show.  Terrible way for Big Papi to go out. :-(


The Red Sox performance (or lack thereof) in the 2016 ALDS is another reason why the bulk of a player's salary should be performance based.  Give them a base of $150K - want to earn more, earn it by good hitting, proper fielding, and winning games.

The MLBPA is way too powerful for even such an idea to be considered.

Also I was astonished that Clayton Kershaw got the save by pitching the final two outs last night after Dodgers closer Kenley Jansen came in during the 7th.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Rothman on October 14, 2016, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 14, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: roadman on October 14, 2016, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 11, 2016, 01:00:07 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on October 10, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
I'll be the first to say it: screw the Cubs.  I wish all the worst for them.  Just because your team sucked for so long doesn't make you more deserving of jack shit.
Also: THE RED SOX GOT SWEPT!!!  :-D :D :) :clap: :happy:

:verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad: :verymad:  More like we didn't even show.  Terrible way for Big Papi to go out. :-(


The Red Sox performance (or lack thereof) in the 2016 ALDS is another reason why the bulk of a player's salary should be performance based.  Give them a base of $150K - want to earn more, earn it by good hitting, proper fielding, and winning games.

The MLBPA is way too powerful for even such an idea to be considered.

Also I was astonished that Clayton Kershaw got the save by pitching the final two outs last night after Dodgers closer Kenley Jansen came in during the 7th.

Yeah, that happened with Tazawa on the Red Sox a couple of times this season that left everyone thinking that although the rules were being followed, the rules weren't quite right.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Buck87 on October 15, 2016, 07:29:06 PM
Great pitching for the Tribe so far, who now have a 2-0 series lead after a couple of tight low scoring wins.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Buck87 on October 18, 2016, 12:29:28 AM
The Indians just became the first team in MLB history to both...

1) win a postseason game while having no pitcher record more than 5 outs
2) win a postseason game using 5 different pitchers through the first 5 innings

This became necessary after starting pitcher Trevor Bauer had to leave the game in the first inning after his pinkie finger, which had 10 stitches in it, began bleeding uncontrollably. Why did he need to have stitches in his pinkie?.....because he sliced it open while repairing a freaking drone during the time between the ALDS and ALCS, resulting in him being moved from the game 2 starting spot into the game 3 starting spot.

Great job by the Tribe to overcome this situation and take a 3-0 lead in the series.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Desert Man on October 19, 2016, 11:44:43 AM
It's not over: the Jays pulled off a win to halted the Indians' transition to the world series. They play again today and let's see whose fortunes are on top. And the Dodgers now have a 2-1 lead vs the Cubs in the NLCS. Clayton Kershaw and the Cubs curse...this will be a difficult road ahead for the Cubs and their fans.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on October 19, 2016, 07:35:49 PM
Indians won 3-0. World Series starts Tuesday. Same night as the Cavs' ring ceremony.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Buck87 on October 19, 2016, 07:53:42 PM
2016 AL Champions! Great job by Merritt today in his 2nd ever MLB start, as well as the bullpen, anchored by series MVP Andrew Miller.

Gonna be interesting to sit back and see how this NLCS turns out.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 20, 2016, 04:05:01 AM
I'll be rooting for the Indians if the Cubs don't make it for the first time in 71 years. The semifinals (as I call both championship series) are now tied 2-2. Unlike the Cubs, the Indians have the advantage their curse was broken by the Cavs earlier this year.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on October 20, 2016, 12:53:52 PM
I'm pulling for the Cubs. As a New Yorker, I can't support the Dodgers in any way.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 20, 2016, 05:50:03 PM
Toronto who lost last years against the Royals and this year against the Indians, I wonder if they are now the new "mistake on the lake"? ;)
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Alps on October 20, 2016, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 20, 2016, 12:53:52 PM
I'm pulling for the Cubs. As a New Yorker, I can't support the Dodgers in any way.
Well, you're not really of the right generation, but one thing I've learned is that for everyone who felt betrayed by the Dodgers and Giants leaving, there's a New Yorker who stayed with those teams, or one born before the advent of the Mets who chose to follow the former NY team instead of the Yankees. So being a NYer is not really a qualification to hate one of the Cali NL teams.
Incidentally, if you dial back to the era with 3 NY teams, 0 Cali teams, and a lack of expansion, can you really blame them for leaving for those ripe untapped markets?
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Duke87 on October 20, 2016, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: Alps on October 20, 2016, 07:00:20 PM
Incidentally, if you dial back to the era with 3 NY teams, 0 Cali teams, and a lack of expansion, can you really blame them for leaving for those ripe untapped markets?

As a business decision, no. However there are a significant number of people out there who object to major league baseball being run as a business, and believe that preservation of tradition should come before profit.

I'm rooting for the Dodgers to go all the way simply because that is the only possible outcome at this point that does not result in the breaking of a curse.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on October 20, 2016, 09:42:34 PM
Cleveland curse was already broken by the Cavs, so they're in the clear.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 21, 2016, 06:32:51 AM
The cubbies are only one win away from making history! Not only that, they have home advantage.

Today last year it was the Back to the Future day. And indeed there was a sweep involving the Cubs, but instead of them sweeping Miami Gators to clinch their first World Series in 107 years, they were swept by NY Mets in the semifinals (NLCS).

PS: Changed my avatar, temporarily. I'll return to I-41 later.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on October 22, 2016, 10:54:41 PM
The Cubs won the pennant! The Cubs won the pennant! First time since 1945. A Cubs-Indians series means that one of the 2 longest championship droughts in professional sports will end this year.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: amroad17 on October 22, 2016, 11:34:56 PM
This is going to be one fun Series.

Prediction:  Cubs in six games.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 23, 2016, 07:13:37 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on October 22, 2016, 11:34:56 PM
Prediction:  Cubs in six games.

I agree based on the Indians starting pitching situation.  I do not think they can recover from Trevor Bauer missing another start due to the stitches on his finger from the drone incident.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 23, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
I saw some articles about the curse of the Billy Goat who had hit the Cubs.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/page/playoffs16_CubsIndians5Qs/world-series-questions-chicago-cubs-versus-cleveland-indians
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/odd-coincidence-creator-of-cubs-curse-died-on-oct-22-cubs-win-pennant-oct-22/
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 23, 2016, 09:24:40 AM
For the first time in 71 years (which also means for the first time since NBA first came into existence), Cubs will play in the fall classic. One of the two longest championship droughts will be broken this year (If cubbies win, then the longest active drought will pass over to Cleveland Indians). The longest pennant drought has passed to Washington Nationals, one of the two teams that have yet to make it to the World Series (The other is Seattle Mariners, which coincidentally has now the second longest pennant drought).
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 23, 2016, 09:51:52 AM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on October 23, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
I saw some articles about the curse of the Billy Goat who had hit the Cubs.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/page/playoffs16_CubsIndians5Qs/world-series-questions-chicago-cubs-versus-cleveland-indians
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/odd-coincidence-creator-of-cubs-curse-died-on-oct-22-cubs-win-pennant-oct-22/


I started watching the game in the 7th inning last night. If I had a shot for every time the announcers mentioned the curse in the final 3 innings, i would probably be dead this morning. They couldn't let it go.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 23, 2016, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 23, 2016, 09:51:52 AM
I started watching the game in the 7th inning last night. If I had a shot for every time the announcers mentioned the curse in the final 3 innings, i would probably be dead this morning. They couldn't let it go.

Remember that the 8th inning of Game 6 in the 2003 NLCS (after the Steve Bartman incident) was when the Cubs blew that game against the Marlins.  I partially wonder if that was why Joe Maddon replaced Kyle Hendricks with Aroldis Chapman right after the Josh Reddick single.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 23, 2016, 06:56:59 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on October 23, 2016, 09:24:40 AM
For the first time in 71 years (which also means for the first time since NBA first came into existence), Cubs will play in the fall classic. One of the two longest championship droughts will be broken this year (If cubbies win, then the longest active drought will pass over to Cleveland Indians). The longest pennant drought has passed to Washington Nationals, one of the two teams that have yet to make it to the World Series (The other is Seattle Mariners, which coincidentally has now the second longest pennant drought).

Technically, it was one of the ancestors of the NBA, the BAA (Basketball association of America) who was created in 1946, they merged with the NBL (National Basketball league who was created in 1937) in 1949 to became the NBA.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: amroad17 on October 24, 2016, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 23, 2016, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 23, 2016, 09:51:52 AM
I started watching the game in the 7th inning last night. If I had a shot for every time the announcers mentioned the curse in the final 3 innings, i would probably be dead this morning. They couldn't let it go.

Remember that the 8th inning of Game 6 in the 2003 NLCS (after the Steve Bartman incident) was when the Cubs blew that game against the Marlins.  I partially wonder if that was why Joe Maddon replaced Kyle Hendricks with Aroldis Chapman right after the Josh Reddick single.
There were three reasons the Cubs lost that Game 6 against Florida in 2003--and none of it had to do with Steve Bartman...

     1.  If Moises Alou had not been so demonstrative about the play, and just went back to left field, the team would have been calmed and went to the task of recording the final two outs of the inning.  His demonstrativeness not only affected the team, but also affected the fans in attendance.
     2.  The real biggest reason--Dusty Baker allowed the pitcher, Mark Prior, to throw over 130 pitches in the game.  He should have pulled him right after the walk to Luis Castillo.  However, in that season, Baker (and the pitching coach) allowed almost all his starters to throw 120-150 pitches per game.
     3.  The unfortunate error by normal sure-handed shortstop Alex Gonzales.  I know errors can happen at any time; it just so happened that this was magnified by what happened prior.  If he made the play correctly, the Cubs would have gotten out of the inning with a double play and up 3-1 or, at the worst, two outs and runners at the corners.

Sure, the foul ball that Bartman (and others) tried to catch started what happened in 2003.  Unfortunately, because of the reasons described above, it led to a Cubs loss in that game and in Game 7.  Even the fans felt doom and gloom come on--even before Prior walked Castillo.  Just watch the 30 for 30 movie "Catching Hell".  The fans who documented this thought only something bad was going to happen--and it did.  OMG, the Curse of the Goat.

I watched that game and always felt the Cubs lost Game 6 because of what the Cubs did or did not do, not because of Steve Bartman. 

Now the Cubs are in the World Series!  They were led there by one of the best managers in baseball today, Joe Maddon, who is three times the manager Dusty Baker is.  He would never let a pitcher throw more than 110 pitches in a game--much less 130+ like the other guy.  He really knows when to pull a pitcher when it is needed.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on October 24, 2016, 12:19:30 AM
Pitch count wasn't a metric a lot of people considered until relatively recently. Granted, pitching in general has changed quite a bit over the past few decades, but that's another story.

That being said, I remember Game 6 in 2003 and I completely agree that Prior should have been pulled much earlier. Granted, some of the same mistakes that happened to the Cubs in 03 happened to the Dodgers. Kershaw choked and the Dodgers offense was miserable.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: amroad17 on October 24, 2016, 12:57:47 AM
Clayton Kershaw has "choked"/performed miserably in the post-season for most of his career.  He is, IMHO, the Peyton Manning of baseball.  A fantastic regular season pitcher but a mere mortal in the playoffs.

This isn't to say he may be part of a World Series-winning team.  It always seems he tires in the playoffs because he is, with the exception of this year, approaching the 260-inning plus mark.  Nowadays, that is a lot of innings.  Also, because of the Dodgers offense, he is almost always pitching in a 2-1, 3-1, or 3-2 game.  That will not only wear on a pitcher physically, but also mentally.  By the end of the season, he is probably worn out mentally and probably overthinks on how he is to perform out on the mound.  He does fine for five or six innings, but when the seventh comes around, he just starts to pitch badly.

BTW, if the Cubs win the World Series, they should give Steve Bartman at least ten seasons' worth of free passes to Wrigley and have him throw out the first pitch at the game the Cubs raise the World Series Champion banner next year.  Boston "forgave" Bill Buckner; Cubs fans should "forgive" Steve Bartman.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 24, 2016, 07:17:02 AM
You have to also remember that the Dodgers bullpen (minus Kenley Jansen) has not been reliable over the years.  That was why Kershaw stayed in Game 1 of the 2014 NLDS a few too many batters than he should have in the 7th inning as a 6-2 Dodgers lead turned into what became a 10-9 Cardinals win.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 25, 2016, 11:26:42 AM
The tickets at Wrigley's Field aren't cheap. http://www.tsn.ca/world-series-tickets-at-wrigley-aren-t-cheap-1.591442

TSN also posted that video titled "A World Series like no other". http://www.tsn.ca/video/the-reporters-a-world-series-like-no-other%7E978789
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on October 25, 2016, 11:29:11 AM
I saw some of the prices. $1 million for a seat. Granted, it's probably the most historic World Series in any of our lifetimes in that one of the two longest droughts in professional sports will end.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on October 25, 2016, 11:32:38 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on October 24, 2016, 12:57:47 AM
Clayton Kershaw has "choked"/performed miserably in the post-season for most of his career.  He is, IMHO, the Peyton Manning of baseball.  A fantastic regular season pitcher but a mere mortal in the playoffs.

This isn't to say he may be part of a World Series-winning team.  It always seems he tires in the playoffs because he is, with the exception of this year, approaching the 260-inning plus mark.  Nowadays, that is a lot of innings.  Also, because of the Dodgers offense, he is almost always pitching in a 2-1, 3-1, or 3-2 game.  That will not only wear on a pitcher physically, but also mentally.  By the end of the season, he is probably worn out mentally and probably overthinks on how he is to perform out on the mound.  He does fine for five or six innings, but when the seventh comes around, he just starts to pitch badly.

BTW, if the Cubs win the World Series, they should give Steve Bartman at least ten seasons' worth of free passes to Wrigley and have him throw out the first pitch at the game the Cubs raise the World Series Champion banner next year.  Boston "forgave" Bill Buckner; Cubs fans should "forgive" Steve Bartman.

I don't know if its fair to say that Kershaw choked this year in the postseason.  Certainly he didn't have his best stuff in game 6 against the Cubs, but he'd pitched amazingly well all post season this year.  And he did it without regular rest.  Though the Dodgers were betting differently, you can't fault the guy for being a little bit out of gas given all that had been asked of his thus far.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 26, 2016, 07:32:04 AM
Cleveland won the 1st game.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: TravelingBethelite on October 26, 2016, 08:24:51 AM
More like dominated...damn that Corey Kleuber!!!!!  :ded:  :banghead: :verymad: :thumbdown:
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: inkyatari on October 26, 2016, 08:53:07 AM
Be fair, the ump totally sucked with his strike zone.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: TR69 on October 26, 2016, 08:56:46 AM
Cubbies lost a road game to an excellent pitcher -- it happens. They're weren't going to sweep the series anyway. Lots more baseball left to play, including 3 in Chicago.  :spin:
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 26, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
I invoke the Curse of Rocky Colavito (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Rocky_Colavito). Now the Cubs can easily win the World Series :sombrero: (I said several times the Curse of the Billy Goat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_Billy_Goat) was broken by the closure of the Alanland thread).
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on October 26, 2016, 03:35:55 PM
I still stand by Cubs in 6. Kluber is quite good and he has had a 2.52 ERA since the All-Star break.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 26, 2016, 07:07:19 PM
Some talks of a 1993 yearbook who predicted the 2016 Cubs victory.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-did-a-high-school-yearbook-predict-cubs-winning-world-series-in-2016-20161026-htmlstory.html
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/10/world-series-2016-chicago-cubs-indians-win-yearbook-prediction-1993

However, some might be afriad then it might bring a new jinx to the Cubs.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 29, 2016, 11:33:53 AM
Indians takes the lead 2-1. http://www.tsn.ca/indians-edge-cubs-for-world-series-lead-1.594835
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Buck87 on October 29, 2016, 11:40:46 PM
Indians now with a 3-1 lead
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 30, 2016, 04:47:49 AM
Damnit. I decided to revert to the I-41 shield because of that. I don't think Cubs will win the World Series this year, but again, they can overcome that.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on October 30, 2016, 11:47:47 PM
Might want to bring the Cubs logo back. The W flag is going up tonight. Indians now lead 3-2 after Game 5.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on October 31, 2016, 03:01:25 PM
The World Series ratings beat the Sunday Night Football ratings. http://deadline.com/2016/10/cubs-indians-world-series-game-5-ratings-cowboys-eagles-sunday-night-football-nbc-nfl-mlb-fox-1201845375/
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 1995hoo on October 31, 2016, 07:21:20 PM
The last time there were two ties in a single NFL season, the Indians lost the World Series.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: amroad17 on October 31, 2016, 09:56:18 PM
^ Those two tie games in 1997 also occurred in back-to-back weeks.

Some series, huh?  Cleveland's pitching has been very good (two shutouts) and the Cubs aren't hitting.  It took an eight-out save by Chapman to save the season for the Cubs.  Game 6 should be quite electric.

My earlier prediction was incorrect, obviously.  Oh well!  :-|
Title: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 1995hoo on November 01, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
I remember those 1997 ties quite well. I was bellowing at my TV in rage when Westbrook took a penalty that moved the Redskins out of field goal range at the end of OT (it was also the infamous Gus Frerotte headbutt game) and I was so loud and so profane it scared the crap out of the chicks downstairs.

Not watching baseball tonight. The Caps are on.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 01, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
Not watching baseball tonight. The Caps are on.

You're missing what has so far been a crazy game.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: TR69 on November 01, 2016, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 01, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
Not watching baseball tonight. The Caps are on.

You're missing what has so far been a crazy game.

Yeah, crazy *awesome*  :clap:  Lots more game yet to go, though...   :paranoid:
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 09:05:28 PM
Quote from: TR69 on November 01, 2016, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 01, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
Not watching baseball tonight. The Caps are on.

You're missing what has so far been a crazy game.

Yeah, crazy *awesome*  :clap:  Lots more game yet to go, though...   :paranoid:

Grand. Slam. 7-0 Cubs.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 1995hoo on November 01, 2016, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 01, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
Not watching baseball tonight. The Caps are on.

You're missing what has so far been a crazy game.
I saw the score. I'd rather watch a team for which I root, that's all.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 01, 2016, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 09:05:28 PM
Quote from: TR69 on November 01, 2016, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 01, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
Not watching baseball tonight. The Caps are on.



You're missing what has so far been a crazy game.

Yeah, crazy *awesome*  :clap:  Lots more game yet to go, though...   :paranoid:

Grand. Slam. 7-0 Cubs.  :cheers:

No Andrew Miller in the 5th inning either.   :-D
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Desert Man on November 01, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
As of 8:40pm CA time (11:40pm in Cleveland), the Cubs postponed the Indians' world series championship once again. The score Cubs 9-Tribe 3, so you know game 7 will come...the series intensifies and tomorrow's results will be epic.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 11:42:51 PM
Remember, the last time the Indians were in the World Series (and lost) was the last year there were 2 ties in a single NFL season...
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 02, 2016, 04:56:18 AM
Quote from: Desert Man on November 01, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
As of 8:40pm CA time (11:40pm in Cleveland), the Cubs postponed the Indians' world series championship once again. The score Cubs 9-Tribe 3, so you know game 7 will come...the series intensifies and tomorrow's results will be epic.

4:40 am next day here :sombrero: (Note that DST has already ended here). And I hope the Cubs get to postpone at least one year more the Indians' championship by winning their first one in a century. Once again, I invoke the curse of Rocky Colavito.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 02, 2016, 06:36:14 AM
Quote from: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 11:42:51 PM
Remember, the last time the Indians were in the World Series (and lost) was the last year there were 2 ties in a single NFL season...

I remember reading that NBC (which had the World Series that year) did not want to air that series as they faced the Marlins so they wanted a four-game sweep.  As we know, that did not happen.   :-D
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Stephane Dumas on November 02, 2016, 06:50:55 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on November 02, 2016, 04:56:18 AM
Quote from: Desert Man on November 01, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
As of 8:40pm CA time (11:40pm in Cleveland), the Cubs postponed the Indians' world series championship once again. The score Cubs 9-Tribe 3, so you know game 7 will come...the series intensifies and tomorrow's results will be epic.

4:40 am next day here :sombrero: (Note that DST has already ended here). And I hope the Cubs get to postpone at least one year more the Indians' championship by winning their first one in a century. Once again, I invoke the curse of Rocky Colavito.

If you invoke the curse of Rocky Colavito, should I invoke the Billy Goat curse? ;)
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 1995hoo on November 02, 2016, 07:27:18 AM
Quote from: cl94 on November 01, 2016, 11:42:51 PM
Remember, the last time the Indians were in the World Series (and lost) was the last year there were 2 ties in a single NFL season...

I think I heard that somewhere before. :biggrin:

Quote from: 1995hoo on October 31, 2016, 07:21:20 PM
The last time there were two ties in a single NFL season, the Indians lost the World Series.

Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 02, 2016, 08:08:16 AM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on November 02, 2016, 06:50:55 AM
If you invoke the curse of Rocky Colavito, should I invoke the Billy Goat curse? ;)

No, that one was broken when Alanland was closed down (I've also said this several times).
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on November 02, 2016, 11:53:08 PM
We're going to extra innings. Would probably be over by now if Lester wasn't pulled.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 02, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
Just pulled the tarp out.  Well I'm not staying up if this last long....sucks since this has been an awesome game so far.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 03, 2016, 12:10:31 AM
The tarp is being taken off.  They plan to restart at 12:15. 

Quote from: cl94 on November 02, 2016, 11:53:08 PM
We're going to extra innings. Would probably be over by now if Lester wasn't pulled.

I still think Kyle Hendricks should have been given at least one more batter in the 5th.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on November 03, 2016, 12:33:54 AM
8-6 middle of the 10th
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: cl94 on November 03, 2016, 12:49:33 AM
Cubs won the Series 8-6 in Game 7. Longest championship drought is now held by the Indians. What a crazy game.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 03, 2016, 12:53:35 AM
Well that was a hell of an entertaining series and final game.  Added bonus I get to hear all my cousins in Cleveland complain and whine like they always do.   :-D

Incidentally...weird how not far away from this scene from Back to the Future Part II came from being true:

Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 03, 2016, 01:11:05 AM
World Series MVP goes to Ben Zobrist (also a part of last year's Royals team that also won the WS) who had the GW RBI Double in the 10th.   I would have personally given it to Kris Bryant though.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 03, 2016, 01:29:06 AM
Congrats to the Cubs for breaking their World Series drought!
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: amroad17 on November 03, 2016, 01:37:10 AM
Congrats to the Chicago Cubs and all Cubs fans everywhere!!!  This is well-deserving for the fans who have waited a lifetime for this.  It was simply a great game to watch!

I started listening to the game on ESPN on my way home from work in the fifth inning.  I watched it at home (with my son who is not really a sports fan but enjoyed the game himself) from the sixth inning on.  What a game!!!  This will be talked about for years!

I have decided to change my avatar for the next seven days to honor the team that "broke all the curses they have endured."  These players, coaches, and management are going to be folk heroes forever.

Chicago Cubs--2016 World Series Champions!!!
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 03, 2016, 05:01:30 AM
I knew they would do it. I've also changed my avatar (again). I cannot believe both of my grandfathers spent their entire lives between two Cubs' championships. Anyway, I hope they don't have to wait until 2124 to get another World Series.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 03, 2016, 09:09:06 AM
So obviously the longest World Series winless streak is the Indians now with their last at 1948.  Interestingly the Cardinals football franchise has them beat with their last NFL championship being back in 1947.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Buck87 on November 03, 2016, 10:02:32 AM
Well that was brutal to get so close and fall just short. Though I'm still proud as hell about what this Indians team managed to accomplish. It was quite an amazing feat to get as far a they did after losing their 2nd and 3rd starters right at the end of the year....not to mention having their best hitter out for the whole season. I was just hoping they could at least hold to win the Division title....and they far exceeded any expectations I had.

It's still going to take a while to get over letting this opportunity slip away, but at least the recent championships by the Cavs and Buckeyes have made this at least a little bit easier for me to take.


Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: inkyatari on November 03, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
As a Cubs fan, kudos to the fight you guys put up.  Here's to hoping your drought ends soon.
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 03, 2016, 05:32:49 PM
Now that the MLB season has finally ended (with the Cubs finally getting it after more than a century), it's time to wait until the NFL's Super Bowl and then the March Madness (this year I inadvertidly predicted the champion of the latter).
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: Alps on November 03, 2016, 10:40:13 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 03, 2016, 01:11:05 AM
World Series MVP goes to Ben Zobrist (also a part of last year's Royals team that also won the WS) who had the GW RBI Double in the 10th.   I would have personally given it to Kris Bryant though.
Also a part of the Rays' losing team in 2008. How many people get to go to the World Series with 3 different teams?
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 04, 2016, 03:27:29 AM
Quote from: Alps on November 03, 2016, 10:40:13 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 03, 2016, 01:11:05 AM
World Series MVP goes to Ben Zobrist (also a part of last year's Royals team that also won the WS) who had the GW RBI Double in the 10th.   I would have personally given it to Kris Bryant though.
Also a part of the Rays' losing team in 2008. How many people get to go to the World Series with 3 different teams?

Eric Hinske (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hinsker01.shtml) did it in three consecutive years just in the AL East.  (Red Sox in 2007, Rays in 2008, Yankees in 2009)

It gave me hope in 2010 when he was on the Braves as he hit a 2-run HR in the bottom of the 8th against the Giants in Game 3 of the NLDS for a 2-1 lead.  Sadly that day someone named Brooks Conrad could not field a groundball.    :banghead:
Title: Re: 2016 ML baseball postseason
Post by: epzik8 on November 08, 2016, 12:00:01 PM
I'm a bit late here, but YAY CUBS!