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Title: San Luis Obispo County Measure J-16 & CA 46 Expressway
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 08:13:15 PM
This is to the editor of The Tribune of SLO, Bay News and New Times newspapers:


To the people of San Luis Obispo County, there are no longer any funds to repair and repave our roads and highways. What it will not do is be able to fund a diamond interchange on U.S. 101 freeway at Prado Road, for a commercial development that looks like it is not going to take place for real. And also it will not provide funds for California state route 46 east at the junction of California state route 41 north either.  Such widening of California state route 46, used to come from 10 years ago from the passage of Proposition 1A. Fresno and Tulare Counties have a self help plan, while Kern County doesn't. I do support Measure J-16 as it always is for a plan to fix our roads and highways within our county. This is also in regards to the 60th anniversary of the Interstate Highway system created by the late Dwight Eisenhower. Even the Automobile Club of Southern California is backing the support of passage of Measure J-16.  Please vote yes on this measure, it benefits us and us only!
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Since there isn't a lot of context on what J-16 is, found this for everyone.  :-D

http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Assets/CR/Elections/November+8$!2c+2016+Presidential+General+Election/J-16+Public+Notice.pdf
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Since there isn't a lot of context on what J-16 is, found this for everyone.  :-D

http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Assets/CR/Elections/November+8$!2c+2016+Presidential+General+Election/J-16+Public+Notice.pdf


Not unless I have the ballot at my desk in which I am going to vote on, Max, which is printed now, and handed out via "snail mail" to San Luis Obispo County residents.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Since there isn't a lot of context on what J-16 is, found this for everyone.  :-D

http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Assets/CR/Elections/November+8$!2c+2016+Presidential+General+Election/J-16+Public+Notice.pdf


Not unless I have the ballot at my desk in which I am going to vote on, Max, which is printed now, and handed out via "snail mail" to San Luis Obispo County residents.

Okay....then vote for it then?   Wouldn't a letter to the editor of a newspaper be better served...maybe going to the newspaper and telling us about the proposal instead and why you favor it for infrastructure development?  It seems like a nominal tax increase from what I read.  I'm just not sure what you are trying to accomplish posting it here with no context on J-16 itself?   :confused:

Edit:  Good god my grammar went to $%@ tonight.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Since there isn't a lot of context on what J-16 is, found this for everyone.  :-D

http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Assets/CR/Elections/November+8$!2c+2016+Presidential+General+Election/J-16+Public+Notice.pdf


Not unless I have the ballot at my desk in which I am going to vote on, Max, which is printed now, and handed out via "snail mail" to San Luis Obispo County residents.

Okay....then vote for it then?   Wouldn't a letter to the editor of a newspaper be better served...maybe going to the newspaper and telling us about the proposal instead and why you favor it for infrastructure development?  It seems like a nominal tax increase from what I read.  I'm just not sure what you are trying to accomplish posting it here with no context on J-16 itself?   :confused:

Edit:  Good god my grammar went to $%@ tonight.

Not unless you are a Automobile Club of Southern California member, but this is locally.  I can't trash how my letters will be published.  Max.  It is opinion only.  I don't need to comment any longer.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 09:00:33 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 08:18:50 PM
Since there isn't a lot of context on what J-16 is, found this for everyone.  :-D

The ballot is not on .pdf file either for Adobe Acrobat to share it with you, Max on the personal computer.  It would take most of my time away just to copy that ballot, so here you go: http://yesonj-slo.org/

http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/Assets/CR/Elections/November+8$!2c+2016+Presidential+General+Election/J-16+Public+Notice.pdf


Not unless I have the ballot at my desk in which I am going to vote on, Max, which is printed now, and handed out via "snail mail" to San Luis Obispo County residents.

Okay....then vote for it then?   Wouldn't a letter to the editor of a newspaper be better served...maybe going to the newspaper and telling us about the proposal instead and why you favor it for infrastructure development?  It seems like a nominal tax increase from what I read.  I'm just not sure what you are trying to accomplish posting it here with no context on J-16 itself?   :confused:

Edit:  Good god my grammar went to $%@ tonight.

Not unless you are a Automobile Club of Southern California member, but this is locally.  I can't trash how my letters will be published.  Max.  It is opinion only.  I don't need to comment any longer.

http://yesonj-slo.org/
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
Will your letter be published?  Have your letters been published?  What are you actually trying to say?  I don't recall saying anything about not mailing your newspaper?  :eyebrow:  I'm not even sure what you were looking for when you opened this topic up?  Was it a discussion on J-16?...I think?  If so, then it might have been helpful to include the proposal for J-16 in with the thread to start with.  Like I said, once I looked it I didn't see anything that have me saying "no" to it.  Why start a thread and then say you won't comment on it?

Just saw your latest post, that would have been useful from the start...although it's weighted towards yes without really giving any meat to the proposed tax increases.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
Will your letter be published?  Have your letters been published?  What are you actually trying to say?  I don't recall saying anything about not mailing your newspaper?  :eyebrow:  I'm not even sure what you were looking for when you opened this topic up?  Was it a discussion on J-16?...I think?  If so, then it might have been helpful to include the proposal for J-16 in with the thread to start with.  Like I said, once I looked it I didn't see anything that have me saying "no" to it.  Why start a thread and then say you won't comment on it?

Just saw your latest post, that would have been useful from the start...although it's weighted towards yes without really giving any meat to the proposed tax increases.

Ok you just didn't click the link below that what I am assuming.  I may have to put you on ignore for now, because it would be a waste of my time to continue like this, please.  I did and here it is, go read it for yourself: http://yesonj-slo.org/  :poke: 
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 09:30:42 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
Will your letter be published?  Have your letters been published?  What are you actually trying to say?  I don't recall saying anything about not mailing your newspaper?  :eyebrow:  I'm not even sure what you were looking for when you opened this topic up?  Was it a discussion on J-16?...I think?  If so, then it might have been helpful to include the proposal for J-16 in with the thread to start with.  Like I said, once I looked it I didn't see anything that have me saying "no" to it.  Why start a thread and then say you won't comment on it?

Just saw your latest post, that would have been useful from the start...although it's weighted towards yes without really giving any meat to the proposed tax increases.

Ok you just didn't click the link below that what I am assuming.  I may have to put you on ignore for now, because it would be a waste of my time to continue like this, please.  I did and here it is: http://yesonj-slo.org/  :poke:

Actually I did read it and referenced it in my last post.  Like I said, it just references the "pros" for the arguments in regards to J-16.  I'm starting to think YOU didn't read my first reply which included the entire J-16 proposal.  I'm not sure what you're getting so offended at here.  I'm just trying to have a conversation with you that involves the proposal your referencing.  I've asked for your commentary on why you think it's a good idea....or at least why you said what you said in your newspaper letter. 

As it stands right now you're the one wasting everyone's time by not giving any context for your arguments and opinions.  You could have just started with your link, your thoughts, possibly your newspaper commentary, and it probably would have cultivated a much less confused response.  No offense, but this is typically how your threads end up going if you haven't noticed.

So with that in mind if you feel like Sunnydale Syndrome is the way to go, by all means put me on your ignore list.  I know that I'm not the only who has given you similar feed back when you've shotgunned out a thread like this with no substance.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 09:33:33 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 08, 2016, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 08, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
Will your letter be published?  Have your letters been published?  What are you actually trying to say?  I don't recall saying anything about not mailing your newspaper?  :eyebrow:  I'm not even sure what you were looking for when you opened this topic up?  Was it a discussion on J-16?...I think?  If so, then it might have been helpful to include the proposal for J-16 in with the thread to start with.  Like I said, once I looked it I didn't see anything that have me saying "no" to it.  Why start a thread and then say you won't comment on it?

Just saw your latest post, that would have been useful from the start...although it's weighted towards yes without really giving any meat to the proposed tax increases.

Ok you just didn't click the link below that what I am assuming.  I may have to put you on ignore for now, because it would be a waste of my time to continue like this, please.  I did and here it is, go read it for yourself: http://yesonj-slo.org/  :poke: 

I have posted about there is no more money for California state route 46 east, and the ridicious proposal for a diamond interchange for Prado Road, for a commercial development that didn't come to past for 10 years. U.S. 101 needs to be improved in the southern part of San Luis County at Shell Beach, and Arroyo Grande and Caltrans just shut down a interchange further southeastward on the freeway.  Max here it is finally on my opinion what needs to be fixed, see this for yourself now I got it.  I just hope that i made my point clear without Mayhem getting in the way, LOL. (from Allstate Insurance).  This is my comments, because I am from San Luis Obispo County.  I think the roads and highways over here are in very poor condition.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: myosh_tino on October 08, 2016, 11:35:21 PM
So does Measure J fund specific projects or is it a general sales tax increase?  I believe Santa Clara county was the first to tax itself in 1984 to fund transportation projects.  By the way, why are you calling it "J-16"?  As far as I can tell, it's Measure J.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2016, 07:32:41 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 08, 2016, 11:35:21 PM
So does Measure J fund specific projects or is it a general sales tax increase?  I believe Santa Clara county was the first to tax itself in 1984 to fund transportation projects.  By the way, why are you calling it "J-16"?  As far as I can tell, it's Measure J.

It's really J-16, the PDF I posted in the first reply has all the specifics.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 09, 2016, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2016, 07:32:41 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 08, 2016, 11:35:21 PM
So does Measure J fund specific projects or is it a general sales tax increase?  I believe Santa Clara county was the first to tax itself in 1984 to fund transportation projects.  By the way, why are you calling it "J-16"?  As far as I can tell, it's Measure J.

It's really J-16, the PDF I posted in the first reply has all the specifics.

Now someone can believe me for real what I am talking about.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 09, 2016, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2016, 07:32:41 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 08, 2016, 11:35:21 PM
So does Measure J fund specific projects or is it a general sales tax increase?  I believe Santa Clara county was the first to tax itself in 1984 to fund transportation projects.  By the way, why are you calling it "J-16"?  As far as I can tell, it's Measure J.

It's really J-16, the PDF I posted in the first reply has all the specifics.

Now someone can believe me for real what I am talking about.

Just for the record, I never "didn't" believe you. I just wanted to know more about the measure hence why I looked up the public records on it.  I actually agree with you, it seems like a pretty nominal tax hike to get some infrastructure funding for SLO County.  Really the only question I have is that going to be sufficient or is another hike going to be looked at down the line?  Better to start with something like this and revisit it as needed I say.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 09, 2016, 05:13:28 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 09, 2016, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 09, 2016, 07:32:41 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 08, 2016, 11:35:21 PM
So does Measure J fund specific projects or is it a general sales tax increase?  I believe Santa Clara county was the first to tax itself in 1984 to fund transportation projects.  By the way, why are you calling it "J-16"?  As far as I can tell, it's Measure J.

It's really J-16, the PDF I posted in the first reply has all the specifics.

Now someone can believe me for real what I am talking about.

Just for the record, I never "didn't" believe you. I just wanted to know more about the measure hence why I looked up the public records on it.  I actually agree with you, it seems like a pretty nominal tax hike to get some infrastructure funding for SLO County.  Really the only question I have is that going to be sufficient or is another hike going to be looked at down the line?  Better to start with something like this and revisit it as needed I say.

Tulare County voted for it for three times, and finally is passed there in November, 2006.  For other counties Santa Barbara, Los Angeles And Orange Counties, etc. did pass theirs too during the last 20-25 years.

Unless. Max bonds replaces nominal tax increases, maybe bonds would be better for my county alone.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: coatimundi on October 09, 2016, 07:43:38 PM
Max didn't know about it because he can't vote for or against it. Neither can I. We don't live in SLO County.
Monterey County has a similar one this cycle:
http://www.montereycountyelections.us/a_measures_NOVEMBER_2016_EN_MX.html

All of our other measures seem to be about municipalities taxing dispensaries, the typical school bonds, and the very controversial anti-fracking measure.

These local measures are just called by their letter. The "16" is for the year. If they didn't reuse letters, then they'd have to go all Excel on it and we'd have "Measure ABRC" or something by now. But, if you insist:

(https://highwaysignfanatic.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/trent-iphone-8-12-16-198.jpg?w=290)

Yes on J-16 signage!
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 11, 2016, 04:37:36 PM
The question remains, Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
I doubt so, because it doesn't mention anything about what has to be done to convert the rest to expressway for California state route 46 far east of Paso Robles, CA.
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 11, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
There something wrong with the previous thread on J-16?   We sorted all the information on the previous thread, so why another?   
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 11, 2016, 07:38:52 PM
Gonna bump this one up since there are duplicates now. 
Title: Re: Would Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County provide funds to widen CA 46 E?
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 11, 2016, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 11, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
There something wrong with the previous thread on J-16?   We sorted all the information on the previous thread, so why another?   

In my original letter I did not say that one cent would go for CA 46 E widening projects, did I Max, no I didn't.  It isn't in the ballot with a lengthy project.
Title: Measure J-16 in San Luis Obispo County will help CA 46 Expressway to be built!
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 11, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
I have made a mistake in reporting that California state route 46 east, from where the late actor James Dean died at in 1955 at the town of Chalome, California to the San Luis Obispo/Kern County line will not be widened.  According to my J-16 ballot that I will be voting on, it will widen California 46 east at Chalome all the way to county border as expressway.  This is a $225 million 1/2 % .50 cent addition to the 8 % I pay for my errands.  So I want to correct a misunderstanding that I had, because I was confused.
Title: Re: Letter about San Luis Obispo County's Measure J-16.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 11, 2016, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 11, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
There something wrong with the previous thread on J-16?   We sorted all the information on the previous thread, so why another?   

I made a move to change back the subject to Measure J-16 for San Luis Obispo County, Max.  Not for widening California state route 46 east, I cover that in a separate subject under Propostion 1A bonds.
Title: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 05:24:57 PM
Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Not a reference point to make a comment about this, but for the newspapers.  I am trying to avoid unneccassary comments that would turn negative, this is a correction only, please.   Keep it cool, now.

This is the right letter to be published in your newspapers, I am submitting a correction here.

I am in support of San Luis Obispo County's Measure J-16, because it will be able to widen California state route 46 from Chalome where the late actor James Dean died in 1955 (when it was numbered U.S. 466) to the San Luis Obispo/Kern County border. Most of California's roads and highways have been crumbling, along with the rest of the country under our 60 year old Interstate Highway system too, even to mention other U.S. and state highways as well as county routes too.  I recommend  a yes vote on Measure J-16, along with the support from the Automobile Club of Southern California too.

Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: NE2 on October 13, 2016, 06:22:20 PM
You are dumb.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 07:07:53 PM
Quote from: NE2 on October 13, 2016, 06:22:20 PM
You are dumb.

No I am not dumb, NE.  Don't give me that kind of nonsense, ok.  I corrected myself, and I am pleased to do it, it you have nothing to say, then don't say it, or you will get into trouble.  This e-mail letter is going to my Facebook group page, which you don't have access to it called "California Highways and Freeways, and beyond."  You sound idiot-ic very much so.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2016, 07:37:06 PM
Mods, there any way all these threads can be merged together?  All of them are related and don't require a new thread for a slight variation of thought, I at least that's my opinion. 
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: noelbotevera on October 13, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Don't you realize that you're not helping?
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 07:56:21 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 13, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Don't you realize that you're not helping?

Who me?  I am not at fault. Don't waste my time please.  It should be merged into the one I have already written this past weekend, but I am really not at fault for my correction, thank you.  Thank you Max, for my understand it should be merged now.   :colorful:
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 13, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Don't you realize that you're not helping?

Actually to the contrary whenever someone has requested a reasonable merge or thread lock for duplication it seems to have been granted.  It's just a little aggravating to see this over and over with the same topics or a slight variation.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 13, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Don't you realize that you're not helping?


Actually to the contrary whenever someone has requested a reasonable merge or thread lock for duplication it seems to have been granted.  It's just a little aggravating to see this over and over with the same topics or a slight variation.

I request it too, so Max you can help me this subject matter will be over with.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 13, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Don't you realize that you're not helping?


Actually to the contrary whenever someone has requested a reasonable merge or thread lock for duplication it seems to have been granted.  It's just a little aggravating to see this over and over with the same topics or a slight variation.

I request it too, so Max you can help me this subject matter will be over with.

That's not my job to fix your threads for you Scott.  The forum rules are published and anyone can read them.  You could just as easily replied and expanded on your existing thread pertaining to this topic.  For what it's worth I've tried to help and you gotten upset with me.  For what it's worth I probably add too much snark but for the most part I've tried to give you helpful suggestions.  And....I'm not the only member who has tried also, I know frequent posters on this board had tried to help you out.  I guess for me it's getting annoying seeing viable topics get buried.

Really you ought to probably delete this thread and just copy/paste your original note here into your pre-existing thread.  Hell I consolidated all my photo posts into a single thread and they have sometimes wildly different topics.  I didn't want to clog the board up, so I just expand on what I have already.  If someone wants to comment, great bit of not that's cool too.  The point is that it's all in once thread and not multiple.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:14:19 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 13, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 13, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Don't you realize that you're not helping?


Actually to the contrary whenever someone has requested a reasonable merge or thread lock for duplication it seems to have been granted.  It's just a little aggravating to see this over and over with the same topics or a slight variation.

I request it too, so Max you can help me this subject matter will be over with.

That's not my job to fix your threads for you Scott.  The forum rules are published and anyone can read them.  You could just as easily replied and expanded on your existing thread pertaining to this topic.  For what it's worth I've tried to help and you gotten upset with me.  For what it's worth I probably add too much snark but for the most part I've tried to give you helpful suggestions.  And....I'm not the only member who has tried also, I know frequent posters on this board had tried to help you out.  I guess for me it's getting annoying seeing viable topics get buried.

Really you ought to probably delete this thread and just copy/paste your original note here into your pre-existing thread.  Hell I consolidated all my photo posts into a single thread and they have sometimes wildly different topics.  I didn't want to clog the board up, so I just expand on what I have already.  If someone wants to comment, great bit of not that's cool too.  The point is that it's all in once thread and not multiple.

Ok then one single new subject will be delivered, i think I will copy this letter to the other subject that it will be Measure J-16 will be widening CA 46 East Expressway.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: myosh_tino on October 13, 2016, 08:24:19 PM
As I see it, the following topics can all be merged into a single one...

* This one
* Letter about San Luis Obispo County's Measure J-16 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18983.0)
* Measure J-16 in San Luis Obispo County will help CA 46 Expressway to be built! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19005.0)

I'd also like to echo Max's sentiments about all of the topics you starting on this board.  Of all the topics you have started over the past few months many of them are related and/or duplicate topics and few are downright nonsense to the point where the only viable response is "Huh?" or "What?".  What you are doing is annoying at best and irritating at worst.  Whether this behavior could lead to a ban is up to the mods.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 13, 2016, 08:24:19 PM
As I see it, the following topics can all be merged into a single one...

* This one
* Letter about San Luis Obispo County's Measure J-16 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18983.0)
* Measure J-16 in San Luis Obispo County will help CA 46 Expressway to be built! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19005.0)

I'd also like to echo Max's sentiments about all of the topics you starting on this board.  Of all the topics you have started over the past few months many of them are related and/or duplicate topics and few are downright nonsense to the point where the only viable response is "Huh?" or "What?".  What you are doing is annoying at best and irritating at worst.  Whether this behavior could lead to a ban is up to the mods.

Ok stop making me want to cry, I get it.  I will stick to one subject matters ok!   Just give me time to change.  I will no longer be using my ID name ever again after a ban.  I won't be banned because there is one way to change and that is simple, give me a chance, and I will correct myself with one post only,  the is the end to simple repeating myself as of now, and I am GOING TO DO my best to REALLY correct myself, no mods should ban me when I should be give a chance!!!
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: myosh_tino on October 13, 2016, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 13, 2016, 08:24:19 PM
As I see it, the following topics can all be merged into a single one...

* This one
* Letter about San Luis Obispo County's Measure J-16 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18983.0)
* Measure J-16 in San Luis Obispo County will help CA 46 Expressway to be built! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19005.0)

I'd also like to echo Max's sentiments about all of the topics you starting on this board.  Of all the topics you have started over the past few months many of them are related and/or duplicate topics and few are downright nonsense to the point where the only viable response is "Huh?" or "What?".  What you are doing is annoying at best and irritating at worst.  Whether this behavior could lead to a ban is up to the mods.

Ok stop making me want to cry, I get it.  I will stick to one subject matters ok!   Just give me time to change.  I will no longer be using my ID name ever again after a ban.

I never said you will be banned.

Second, I messaged Roadfro (our moderator) asking him to clean up the 3 discussions and get them merged into a single discussion.  So hang tight and wait for that to happen before posting anything further regarding the SLO Measure J-16.

Third, it was not my intention to make you cry.  I was attempting to get you to realize that this is a community and some of us are starting to lose patience with the sheer number of topics you have started over the past few months.  With that said, some of your topics are really good ones that have promoted a meaningful discussion.  The problem is some of them are not so good that have lead to either one of us getting upset or you getting upset at us for trying to get you to stop.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 13, 2016, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 13, 2016, 08:24:19 PM
As I see it, the following topics can all be merged into a single one…

* This one
* Letter about San Luis Obispo County's Measure J-16 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18983.0)
* Measure J-16 in San Luis Obispo County will help CA 46 Expressway to be built! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19005.0)

I'd also like to echo Max's sentiments about all of the topics you starting on this board.  Of all the topics you have started over the past few months many of them are related and/or duplicate topics and few are downright nonsense to the point where the only viable response is "Huh?" or "What?".  What you are doing is annoying at best and irritating at worst.  Whether this behavior could lead to a ban is up to the mods.

Ok stop making me want to cry, I get it.  I will stick to one subject matters ok!   Just give me time to change.  I will no longer be using my ID name ever again after a ban.

I never said you will be banned.

Second, I messaged Roadfro (our moderator) asking him to clean up the 3 discussions and get them merged into a single discussion.  So hang tight and wait for that to happen before posting anything further regarding the SLO Measure J-16.

Third, it was not my intention to make you cry.  I was attempting to get you to realize that this is a community and some of us are starting to lose patience with the sheer number of topics you have started over the past few months.  With that said, some of your topics are really good ones that have promoted a meaningful discussion.  The problem is some of them are not so good that have lead to either one of us getting upset or you getting upset at us for trying to get you to stop.

However, I don't have an anger or temper anymore where I would blow up like a volcano, that is under control since 2010, thank goodness.  However I am going to make a real change for all of you, so that we can remain happy by not repeating the same mistake again, my repeating my post, however comments i will add.  It is time to get NORMAL, if anyone knows what I mean?  It is just time for me to be very simple now.  With enough of the past, let the future begin.
Title: Re: Measure J-16 in San Luis Obispo County will help CA 46 Expressway to be built!
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on October 13, 2016, 08:26:37 PM
Oy!

Roadfro is going to have his hands full trying to clean up this clusterf***.  :banghead:

ENOUGH Myosh, i made my point in another post I had dont add to getting me into a mad mood with you, when I am very happy. I have deleted my letter, ok.
Title: Re: Measure J-16 in San Luis Obispo County will help CA 46 Expressway to be built!
Post by: Desert Man on October 13, 2016, 09:23:21 PM
I stopped by Cholame as a child when my Mom drove there from Bakersfield where she had family live (and around Arvin), the James Dean monument was set up in the 1980s by Japanese fans on that stretch of the 46. I went north to Parkfield, ate at the world-famous cafe sits exactly on the San Andreas Fault.
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: formulanone on October 13, 2016, 10:04:31 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:50:56 PM
However I am going to make a real change for all of you, so that we can remain happy by not repeating the same mistake again, my repeating my post, however comments i will add.  It is time to get NORMAL, if anyone knows what I mean?  It is just time for me to be very simple now.  With enough of the past, let the future begin.

I think you just need to watch what everyone else does on internet forums...so how most everyone does it. Maybe it's the first forum you've joined?

1) Keep everything related to the same topic to one thread. I don't understand why you need three "J-16" threads, especially when it's a rather local issue.

2) Give a little more information on obscure stuff - we don't have all the information on every little detail. We're not looking at the same map you are...upload an image.

3) Proofread your sentences so it makes sense to as many people as possible. "Stream of consciousness" is not an effective way to be understood by others over the web.

4) Don't flood the board with questions -- give each one a week or so before asking the next one -- some people get annoyed with answering lots of questions all at once, because it feels like they are doing work for you. Not everyone feels this way, but by the 20th question, it gets a bit stale.

5) Do a bit of search and/or researching on your own for simple questions. This board has a search feature; navigate back to the forum's main page and use the search (otherwise it only searches within the sub-forum or just the thread you are viewing).
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: coatimundi on October 13, 2016, 10:51:36 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 05:24:57 PM
This is the right letter to be published in your newspapers, I am submitting a correction here.

My newspapers will be publishing this in their evening editions tomorrow. From San Francisco to Canton Bay, the public must know.

Sincerely,
W.M. Hearst
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 11:10:37 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 13, 2016, 10:04:31 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 08:50:56 PM
However I am going to make a real change for all of you, so that we can remain happy by not repeating the same mistake again, my repeating my post, however comments i will add.  It is time to get NORMAL, if anyone knows what I mean?  It is just time for me to be very simple now.  With enough of the past, let the future begin.

I think you just need to watch what everyone else does on internet forums...so how most everyone does it. Maybe it's the first forum you've joined?

1) Keep everything related to the same topic to one thread. I don't understand why you need three "J-16" threads, especially when it's a rather local issue.

2) Give a little more information on obscure stuff - we don't have all the information on every little detail. We're not looking at the same map you are...upload an image.

3) Proofread your sentences so it makes sense to as many people as possible. "Stream of consciousness" is not an effective way to be understood by others over the web.

4) Don't flood the board with questions -- give each one a week or so before asking the next one -- some people get annoyed with answering lots of questions all at once, because it feels like they are doing work for you. Not everyone feels this way, but by the 20th question, it gets a bit stale.

5) Do a bit of search and/or researching on your own for simple questions. This board has a search feature; navigate back to the forum's main page and use the search (otherwise it only searches within the sub-forum or just the thread you are viewing).


I will try that for real, however I will only post once or twice every 7 to 14 days or become offline for a period of time,  I am on another forum, called "MiceAge" for Disney fans, that has greater passion in my life than roads and highways.  I will follow other and just comment on others people's post and see what happens. ---SCP
Title: Re: Correction on my subject CA 46 East widening at Chalome to San Luis Obispo line.
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 14, 2016, 12:52:05 AM
Quote from: coatimundi on October 13, 2016, 10:51:36 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 13, 2016, 05:24:57 PM
This is the right letter to be published in your newspapers, I am submitting a correction here.

My newspapers will be publishing this in their evening editions tomorrow. From San Francisco to Canton Bay, the public must know.

Sincerely,
W.M. Hearst

This is about the only thing that I thought was worth replying to after coming back from dinner:

Title: Re: San Luis Obispo County Measure J-16 & CA 46 Expressway
Post by: roadfro on October 14, 2016, 02:53:54 AM
Okay folks, I've merged the three threads into one. All further discussion on the SLO measure J and potential CA 46 improvements shall be placed in this thread ONLY. Please reign things back on topic.


ACSCmapcollector:

As others have mentioned already, discussion is much more meaningful if you keep all similar questions and topics in one thread. It will be better to use more general subject titles, so that it doesn't seem necessary to start new threads if the conversation or question is slightly different (for an example, compare the revised title of this merged thread to the three previous thread names). When multiple threads are created, the conversation becomes fragmented and harder to follow–not to mention that people become irritated by the multiple threads and fragmented conversation, so you end up with more posts lamenting the state of the thread(s) rather than discussing the original topic. It also makes more work for me as the board moderator to clean up everything (merge conversations, edit posts, etc.).

Please heed the advice of other members moving forward–the tips posted by formulaone are a good start. Thanks.

–Roadfro
Title: Re: San Luis Obispo County Measure J-16 & CA 46 Expressway
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 14, 2016, 06:24:34 PM
Quote from: roadfro on October 14, 2016, 02:53:54 AM
Okay folks, I've merged the three threads into one. All further discussion on the SLO measure J and potential CA 46 improvements shall be placed in this thread ONLY. Please reign things back on topic.

ACSCmapcollector:

As others have mentioned already, discussion is much more meaningful if you keep all similar questions and topics in one thread. It will be better to use more general subject titles, so that it doesn't seem necessary to start new threads if the conversation or question is slightly different (for an example, compare the revised title of this merged thread to the three previous thread names). When multiple threads are created, the conversation becomes fragmented and harder to follow–not to mention that people become irritated by the multiple threads and fragmented conversation, so you end up with more posts lamenting the state of the thread(s) rather than discussing the original topic. It also makes more work for me as the board moderator to clean up everything (merge conversations, edit posts, etc.).

Please heed the advice of other members moving forward–the tips posted by formulaone are a good start. Thanks.

–Roadfro

Your welcome, I just posted something about Arizona state route 85 being widened to expressway standards between Interstate 8 and Interstate 10 for ADOT outside of California for my own use.  (Mountain States region).

Moved reply outside of quotes. –Roadfro
Title: Re: San Luis Obispo County Measure J-16 & CA 46 Expressway
Post by: noelbotevera on October 14, 2016, 10:56:48 PM
What?
Title: Re: San Luis Obispo County Measure J-16 & CA 46 Expressway
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 15, 2016, 02:55:37 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 14, 2016, 10:56:48 PM
What?

Never mind Noel, it is over.
Title: Re: San Luis Obispo County Measure J-16 & CA 46 Expressway
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 15, 2016, 11:34:22 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 15, 2016, 02:55:37 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 14, 2016, 10:56:48 PM
What?

Never mind Noel, it is over.

John Rambo would have a counter to that sentiment:

Title: Re: San Luis Obispo County Measure J-16 & CA 46 Expressway
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on October 16, 2016, 11:58:37 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 15, 2016, 11:34:22 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on October 15, 2016, 02:55:37 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 14, 2016, 10:56:48 PM
What?

No comment for me, Max.

Never mind Noel, it is over.

John Rambo would have a counter to that sentiment:



(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/Themes/Button_Copy/images/buttons/mutcd_merge.png)Post Merge: October 16, 2016, 08:42:31 PM

No comment from me.