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Title: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: stevenliu96 on October 27, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
Has anybody seen two-section pedestrian signals in California? I've seen (on Google StreetView) a handful in Stockton but they were removed between 2012 and 2014. A few of the ones in Stockton even had the circular Wait / Walk displays!
Title: Re: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 28, 2016, 12:10:55 AM
Got a linked example?
Title: Re: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: stevenliu96 on October 28, 2016, 12:20:15 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 28, 2016, 12:10:55 AM
Got a linked example?

Older Style WAIT / WALK: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9506578,-121.2836803,3a,19.6y,3.68h,82.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sl36E37RbZE-uuzQ6oqKxYA!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Newer Style WAIT / WALK: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9511196,-121.2866223,3a,15y,64.14h,85.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sp853YJdWqMKQgSwE-CjREA!2e0!5s20120401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

DONT WALK / WALK: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9512269,-121.2865184,3a,26.7y,185.13h,83.7t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDisTzJ1rPilaF9eVDVLmKA!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: jrouse on October 28, 2016, 12:50:24 AM
I know there were 2 in Sacramento.  Interestingly, they were both used at school crossings.  One was on Marysville Blvd by Hagginwood Elementary School and the other was on Howe Avenue by Howe School. 

The installation on Marysville Blvd was converted to a single section fixture perhaps sometime in the mid-80s.  The entire signal itself was replaced in the late 80s.  The installation on Howe Avenue was converted to single section pedestrian heads perhaps in the late 80s.  The signal installation itself remains.

Not quite sure if this counts but one of the first demonstrations of a countdown signal that I saw used a two-section configuration, with the hand/walking man in the top section, and the numbers on the bottom.  That installation, at Watt Avenue and Whitney Avenue, was around for only a short time and was replaced when the signals were upgraded about 10 years ago.


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Title: Re: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 28, 2016, 12:57:11 AM
Seems that California has been using 16 inch pedestrian signals ever since they started using neon pedestrian signals back in the 1950s/1960s.
Title: Re: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: stevenliu96 on October 28, 2016, 01:09:30 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 28, 2016, 12:57:11 AM
Seems that California has been using 16 inch pedestrian signals ever since they started using neon pedestrian signals back in the 1950s/1960s.

There was one of those exposed neon tube pedestrian signals still remaining in the Los Angeles area until not too long ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2TLe_W3qnM
Title: Re: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: compdude787 on October 28, 2016, 02:07:57 AM
Quote from: stevenliu96 on October 28, 2016, 01:09:30 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 28, 2016, 12:57:11 AM
Seems that California has been using 16 inch pedestrian signals ever since they started using neon pedestrian signals back in the 1950s/1960s.

There was one of those exposed neon tube pedestrian signals still remaining in the Los Angeles area until not too long ago: [video]

I remember seeing those in Seattle when I was younger (10+ years ago). I don't know if they still exist. There's been a big push to replace the walk signals with ones that are newer and make sounds to let blind people know when it's okay to cross the street.
Title: Re: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: stevenliu96 on October 28, 2016, 02:37:06 AM
Quote from: compdude787 on October 28, 2016, 02:07:57 AM
Quote from: stevenliu96 on October 28, 2016, 01:09:30 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 28, 2016, 12:57:11 AM
Seems that California has been using 16 inch pedestrian signals ever since they started using neon pedestrian signals back in the 1950s/1960s.

There was one of those exposed neon tube pedestrian signals still remaining in the Los Angeles area until not too long ago: [video]

I remember seeing those in Seattle when I was younger (10+ years ago). I don't know if they still exist. There's been a big push to replace the walk signals with ones that are newer and make sounds to let blind people know when it's okay to cross the street.

I didn't know that they had those in Washington. I thought the older pedestrian signals in Washington were the two section variety. Bellingham has (or used to have) the two section pedestrian signals in the downtown area like this one: https://www.google.com/maps/@48.7498046,-122.4793563,3a,26.2y,51.42h,87.42t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgr-vrSE6T-wK4Xv6HO7knw!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656. I haven't been up there for a few years but based on Google StreetView they've been replaced them with single section pedestrian signals. I believe Spokane's older pedestrian signals especially the worded ones have the two section pedestrian signals while the newer ones with the symbols seem to be on the single section pedestrian signals.
Title: Re: Two-Section Pedestrian Signals in California
Post by: compdude787 on October 28, 2016, 03:00:58 AM
Actually, never mind, those older ones that were in Seattle were indeed the two-section kind like the one in Bellingham that you linked to.