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Title: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: treichard on November 02, 2009, 06:05:21 PM
AASHTO's attempt at updating the old 1989 US Highway Log is now available on the web:
http://nchrp20-7-228.com/ (http://nchrp20-7-228.com/)
This is a rough draft under review by the various DOTs across the country.

It is mentioned and linked in the US Route Numbering special committee's responses to the renumbering applications from last week's AASHTO meeting:
http://www.transportation.org/?siteid=68&pageid=1540 (http://www.transportation.org/?siteid=68&pageid=1540)
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: florida on November 02, 2009, 06:12:49 PM
Definitely a rough draft, but some of it makes me wonder.
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: Duke87 on November 02, 2009, 07:48:48 PM
"Select an Interstate" 
"US Interstate Route Number"
:eyebrow:
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: corco on November 02, 2009, 07:57:30 PM
That's a very rough draft. It still shows US-666, US-187, US-163 pre-truncation, the new US-169 KC alignment and US-425 entering Mississippi  . In fact, the only recent change I can find (among changes I know off the top of my head) that's been applied is the US-197 truncation in Washington (and upon further review, it doesn't show that either! As far as I can tell, that's still the 1987 edition .
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: andytom on November 02, 2009, 08:51:35 PM
Chances are, the date of the meeting came along before they could get all the change data in, but they still wanted to publish the new website in the meeting minutes.

--Andy
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: hbelkins on November 02, 2009, 09:30:36 PM
At least it doesn't call them "US Federal Routes."  :clap:
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: Revive 755 on November 02, 2009, 11:56:09 PM
Missouri doesn't list I-72 with US 36, yet the new I-64 extension to I-70 is listed for US 40.
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: Rover_0 on November 03, 2009, 11:55:40 AM
This also shows US-89 going all the way down to the Mexico border in Nogales.  Wow.
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: roadfro on November 03, 2009, 05:12:19 PM
US 6 in Nevada is mislabeled as being in Utah :pan: Definitely a project in the works...

One thing I noticed is that descriptions are given from east to west and north to south, contrary to conventional mileposting and descriptions used by FHWA for Interstates.  You'd think they'd reverse those to be consistent.

Knowing that AASHTO has been in the process of developing this new log for some time, you'd think they would have made it more modern and not just a carbon copy of the previous version's layout. Mileages to at least a decimal place, updated references, listing the bannered routes separately, using something other than "intersection" to list cities and state lines...  I don't know, it just seems to be lacking at this point.  And using the term "Interstate" when referencing U.S. routes...:banghead:
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: treichard on January 14, 2010, 11:07:48 AM
AASHTO has given the Log a visible link and page on their web site now:
http://www.transportation.org/?siteid=68&pageid=3144

It looks like their progress hasn't been much more than simply putting it online in the new format.  The part where they catch up on 20 years' worth of changes isn't yet evident.
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: Brandon on January 14, 2010, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 03, 2009, 05:12:19 PM
And using the term "Interstate" when referencing U.S. routes...:banghead:

Well, the US routes were the original "interstate routes" until that red, white, & blue shield came along.
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: Bickendan on January 14, 2010, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: treichard on January 14, 2010, 11:07:48 AM
AASHTO has given the Log a visible link and page on their web site now:
http://www.transportation.org/?siteid=68&pageid=3144

It looks like their progress hasn't been much more than simply putting it online in the new format.  The part where they catch up on 20 years' worth of changes isn't yet evident.
Case in point: OR US 26 still goes to Astoria. Also, the route logs for OR US 20, 26 and 30 are east to west, not west to east. o.0
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: andytom on January 14, 2010, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on January 14, 2010, 12:33:33 PM
Also, the route logs for OR US 20, 26 and 30 are east to west, not west to east. o.0

I believe that east-to-west and north-to-south have always been the standard sequence in the AASHTO US Hwy route log.

--Andy
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: roadfro on January 14, 2010, 05:44:40 PM
Quote from: treichard on January 14, 2010, 11:07:48 AM
AASHTO has given the Log a visible link and page on their web site now:
http://www.transportation.org/?siteid=68&pageid=3144

It looks like their progress hasn't been much more than simply putting it online in the new format.  The part where they catch up on 20 years' worth of changes isn't yet evident.

Yeah, it still looks the same as the last time I posted about it. All of Nevada US 6 is under Utah, and nothing seems to have been updated. And there's still the "Interstate" references on their log pages.
Title: Re: 2009 AASHTO US Highway Log
Post by: treichard on May 31, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
The latest AASHTO USRN committee results briefly mentioned the new route log.  It sounds like many states haven't bothered to help update the Log, and AASHTO knows it.

QuoteIt was also discussed that USRN information was posted on-line in December 2009 and that it is important for
states to ensure accuracy. Information can be accessed through the AASHTO Route Numbering Website. Marty
Vitale, committee Secretary will email SCOH members and state contacts requesting this review.

http://www.transportation.org/sites/route/docs/SM2010_USRN_Natcez,%20MS%20Report%20to%20SCOH.pdf