Australia: national highway 1
Austria: webfil
Brazil: New to Seattle
Canada: Some of us, including jakeroot and sammi
Chile: froggie
Costa Rica: doorknob60
Czech Republic: Alps
France: Chris
Germany: Chris
Iceland: Alps
Indonesia: gibranalnn
Israel: Alps
Italy: Alps
Jordan: Alps
Mexico: US 41 and others
Nepal: berberry
The Netherlands: Chris
Norway: Alps
Philippines: wishfulanthony
Poland: Alps
Slovenia: webfil
South Africa: Chris
Spain: CNGL-Leudimin
Sweden: Alps
Switzerland: Alps
Trinidad and Tobago: formulanone
United Kingdom: Some of us, including english si and Truvelo
United States: Most of us
(If your country is already listed, you don't need to list it again, even if it's under someone else's name.)
JeffandNicole:
Dominican Republic
Haiti
(Also, Canada, Mexico & US)
You can add me to Canada and Spain as well. (You've already marked me for T&T.)
Thailand, India, Belgium, Japan: me (not on the same trip)
Does Vatican City count?
Quote from: kurumi on November 15, 2016, 11:09:29 AM
Does Vatican City count?
I suppose there's no harm in listing the microstates.
Countries I've been to not yet listed:
Croatia
Hungary
Ireland
Luxembourg
Slovakia
I've been to Andorra and Portugal, which aren't listed yet.
I don't think Chris (ChrisZwolle at SkyscraperCity) has ever left Europe.
In addition to the above, I've been to
People's Republic of China
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Serbia
Romania
Bulgaria
FYRO Macedonia
Greece
Albania
Montenegro
We need to change this thread so we each update the list ourselves, rather than waiting for the OP to do so–i.e. quote the OP, add ourselves in, then remove the [quote string. I'm not scrolling through all the replies to see which ones have been updated and which ones haven't been. With that being said, here's my list:
Austria
Belgium (transit by rail only, changed trains once)
Canada
Czech Rep. (transit by rail only, never set foot outside the train)
France
Germany
Italy
Liechtenstein (transit by coach only, stopped at one gift shop)
Luxemburg
Mexico
Netherlands
Poland
Switzerland
United Kingdom
[edited to add: All European countries were pre-EU]
A pitiful list, IMHO, here goes:
United States (of course - born there, live there)
Canada
Mexico
Belize
Honduras
Cayman Islands
Quote from: kurumiDoes Vatican City count?
Officially, it's a separate country, so I'd say yes.
Quote from: kphogerWe need to change this thread so we each update the list ourselves,
Albania: corco
Andorra: CNGL-Leudimin
Argentina: froggie
Aruba: froggie
Australia: national highway 1, froggie
Austria: webfil, kphoger
Bahamas: froggie
Bahrain: froggie
Belgium: kurumi, kphoger
Belize: Brandon
Bosnia and Herzegovina: corco
Brazil: New to Seattle, froggie
Bulgaria: corco
Canada: Several forum members
Cayman Islands: Brandon
Chile: froggie
China:: corco, froggie (technically)
Costa Rica: doorknob60
Croatia: Truvelo
Cuba: froggie
Czech Republic: Alps, kphoger
Djibouti: froggie
Dominican Republic: jeffandnicole
Ecuador: froggie
Ethiopia: froggie
France: Chris
Germany: Chris, froggie, kphoger
Greece: froggie, corco
Haiti: jeffandnicole
Honduras: Brandon
Hungary: Truvelo
Iceland: froggie, Alps, Dougkerr, Duke87
India: kurumi
Indonesia: gibranalnn
Ireland: Truvelo
Israel: Alps
Italy: froggie, Alps, kphoger
Japan: froggie, kurumi
Jordan: Alps
Kenya: froggie
Liechtenstein: kphoger
Luxembourg: Truvelo
Maceonia: corco
Malaysia: froggie
Mauritius: froggie
Mexico: Several forum members
Montenegro: corco
Nepal: berberry
The Netherlands: Chris, froggie, kphoger
Norway: froggie, Alps
Panama: froggie
Philippines: wishfulanthony, froggie
Poland: froggie, Alps, kphoger
Portugal: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie
Romania: corco
St. Lucia: froggie
Serbia: corco
Seychelles: froggie
Singapore: froggie
Slovakia: Truvelo
Slovenia: webfil
South Africa: Chris
Spain: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie, formulanone
Sweden: froggie, Alps
Switzerland: Alps, kphoger
Thailand: froggie, kurumi
Trinidad and Tobago: formulanone
United Arab Emirates: froggie
United Kingdom: Several forum members
United States: Most of us
Uruguay: froggie
Vatican City: kurumi, froggie
** If more than 4 forum members, I listed it as "several forum members".
I have been to U.S., Canada, Mexico, Spain and Russia.
I haven't been to any countries not already on the list. But you could add me to France and Italy, as well as perhaps Haiti (only in an airport transit lounge) and Ireland (only for an airport connection or refueling stop, when I was eleven months old, in the era before commercial flights could fly non-stop between the U.S. and continental Europe).
I don't know if they're technically countries, but Bermuda, Grand Bahamas, Cayman Islands, & Jamaica (just naming cruise ports at this point!)
Republic of China (Taiwan), France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Vatican City, Austria, Canada.
Albania: corco
Andorra: CNGL-Leudimin
Argentina: froggie
Aruba: froggie
Australia: national highway 1, froggie
Austria: webfil, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Bahamas: froggie
Bahrain: froggie
Belgium: kurumi, kphoger
Belize: Brandon
Bosnia and Herzegovina: corco
Brazil: New to Seattle, froggie
Bulgaria: corco
Canada: Several forum members
Cayman Islands: Brandon
Chile: froggie
China (PRC):: corco, froggie (technically)
China (ROC): AlexandriaVA
Costa Rica: doorknob60
Croatia: Truvelo
Cuba: froggie
Czech Republic: Alps, kphoger
Djibouti: froggie
Dominican Republic: jeffandnicole
Ecuador: froggie
Ethiopia: froggie
France: Chris, AlexandriaVA
Germany: Chris, froggie, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Greece: froggie, corco
Haiti: jeffandnicole
Honduras: Brandon
Hungary: Truvelo
Iceland: froggie, Alps, Dougkerr, Duke87
India: kurumi
Indonesia: gibranalnn
Ireland: Truvelo
Israel: Alps
Italy: froggie, Alps, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Japan: froggie, kurumi
Jordan: Alps
Kenya: froggie
Liechtenstein: kphoger
Luxembourg: Truvelo
Maceonia: corco
Malaysia: froggie
Mauritius: froggie
Mexico: Several forum members
Montenegro: corco
Nepal: berberry
The Netherlands: Chris, froggie, kphoger
Norway: froggie, Alps
Panama: froggie
Philippines: wishfulanthony, froggie
Poland: froggie, Alps, kphoger
Portugal: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie
Romania: corco
St. Lucia: froggie
Serbia: corco
Seychelles: froggie
Singapore: froggie
Slovakia: Truvelo
Slovenia: webfil
South Africa: Chris
Spain: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie, formulanone
Sweden: froggie, Alps
Switzerland: Alps, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Thailand: froggie, kurumi
Trinidad and Tobago: formulanone
United Arab Emirates: froggie
United Kingdom: Several forum members
United States: Most of us
Uruguay: froggie
Vatican City: kurumi, froggie, AlexandriaVA
** If more than 4 forum members, I listed it as "several forum members".
I'm not sure if you count U.S. territories as part of the United States or as separate countries, but I was born in Puerto Rico. Also, I have been to Mexico, as well as on a military charter flight that made a stop at Gitmo (Cuba) on the way to Roosevelt Roads in Puerto Rico (a base that has since closed). However, I am not sure if Cuba counts since it was an American military base.
Canada
United States
France
Belgium
Netherlands
I've been to the US and Canada. That's it.
I don't want to edit the whole list via iPad.
I've been to:
USA
Canada
Mexico
UK
Denmark
Estonia
Russia
Finland
Sweden
Germany
Canada
USA
France
Italy
Germany
UK
Peru
Cumulative list, including some new countries from 1995hoo and AsphaltPlanet:
Albania: corco
Andorra: CNGL-Leudimin
Argentina: froggie
Aruba: froggie
Australia: national highway 1, froggie
Austria: webfil, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Bahamas: froggie
Bahrain: froggie
Belgium: kurumi, kphoger, MisterSG1
Belize: Brandon
Bosnia and Herzegovina: corco
Brazil: New to Seattle, froggie
Bulgaria: corco
Canada: Several forum members
Cayman Islands: Brandon
Chile: froggie
China (PRC):: corco, froggie (technically)
China (ROC): AlexandriaVA
Costa Rica: doorknob60
Croatia: Truvelo
Cuba: froggie
Czech Republic: Alps, kphoger
Denmark: 1995hoo
Djibouti: froggie
Dominican Republic: jeffandnicole
Ecuador: froggie
Estonia: 1995hoo
Ethiopia: froggie
Finland: 1995hoo
France: several forum members
Germany: several forum members
Greece: froggie, corco
Haiti: jeffandnicole, (technically) oscar
Honduras: Brandon
Hungary: Truvelo
Iceland: froggie, Alps, Dougkerr, Duke87
India: kurumi
Indonesia: gibranalnn
Ireland: Truvelo, (really technically) oscar
Israel: Alps
Italy: several forum members
Japan: froggie, kurumi
Jordan: Alps
Kenya: froggie
Liechtenstein: kphoger
Luxembourg: Truvelo
Maceonia: corco
Malaysia: froggie
Mauritius: froggie
Mexico: Several forum members
Montenegro: corco
Nepal: berberry
The Netherlands: Chris, froggie, kphoger
Norway: froggie, Alps
Panama: froggie
Peru: AsphaltPlanet
Philippines: wishfulanthony, froggie
Poland: froggie, Alps, kphoger
Portugal: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie
Romania: corco
Russia: 1995hoo
St. Lucia: froggie
Serbia: corco
Seychelles: froggie
Singapore: froggie
Slovakia: Truvelo
Slovenia: webfil
South Africa: Chris
Spain: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie, formulanone
Sweden: froggie, Alps, 1995hoo
Switzerland: Alps, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Thailand: froggie, kurumi
Trinidad and Tobago: formulanone
United Arab Emirates: froggie
United Kingdom: Several forum members
United States: Most of us
Uruguay: froggie
Vatican City: kurumi, froggie, AlexandriaVA
USA
Spain
Canada
Mexico
Quote from: oscar on November 15, 2016, 07:57:22 PM
Cumulative list, including some new countries from 1995hoo and AsphaltPlanet:
Albania: corco
Andorra: CNGL-Leudimin
Argentina: froggie
Aruba: froggie
Australia: national highway 1, froggie
Austria: webfil, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Bahamas: froggie
Bahrain: froggie
Belgium: kurumi, kphoger, MisterSG1
Belize: Brandon
Bosnia and Herzegovina: corco
Brazil: New to Seattle, froggie
Bulgaria: corco
Canada: Several forum members
Cayman Islands: Brandon
Chile: froggie
China (PRC):: corco, froggie (technically)
China (ROC): AlexandriaVA
Costa Rica: doorknob60
Croatia: Truvelo
Cuba: froggie
Czech Republic: Alps, kphoger
Denmark: 1995hoo
Djibouti: froggie
Dominican Republic: jeffandnicole
Ecuador: froggie
Estonia: 1995hoo
Ethiopia: froggie
Finland: 1995hoo
France: several forum members
Germany: several forum members
Greece: froggie, corco
Haiti: jeffandnicole, (technically) oscar
Honduras: Brandon
Hungary: Truvelo
Iceland: froggie, Alps, Dougkerr, Duke87
India: kurumi
Indonesia: gibranalnn
Ireland: Truvelo, (really technically) oscar
Israel: Alps
Italy: several forum members
Japan: froggie, kurumi
Jordan: Alps
Kenya: froggie
Liechtenstein: kphoger
Luxembourg: Truvelo
Maceonia: corco
Malaysia: froggie
Mauritius: froggie
Mexico: Several forum members
Montenegro: corco
Nepal: berberry
The Netherlands: Chris, froggie, kphoger
Norway: froggie, Alps
Panama: froggie
Peru: AsphaltPlanet
Philippines: wishfulanthony, froggie
Poland: froggie, Alps, kphoger
Portugal: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie
Romania: corco
Russia: 1995hoo, Rothman
St. Lucia: froggie
Serbia: corco
Seychelles: froggie
Singapore: froggie
Slovakia: Truvelo
Slovenia: webfil
South Africa: Chris
Spain: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie, formulanone, Rothman
Sweden: froggie, Alps, 1995hoo
Switzerland: Alps, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Thailand: froggie, kurumi
Trinidad and Tobago: formulanone
United Arab Emirates: froggie
United Kingdom: Several forum members
United States: Most of us
Uruguay: froggie
Vatican City: kurumi, froggie, AlexandriaVA
Forgot me, Oscar.
I've also been to the Helsinki airport, but didn't go through customs, so I don't think it counts.
USA, Canada, Japan, Indonesia, and Taiwan for me.
United States, Canada, Mexico, Bahamas, Belize.
Guatemala. (I think all my others have already been covered)
Updating (and removing South Africa, as I'm sure Chris has never left Europe):
Albania: corco
Andorra: CNGL-Leudimin
Argentina: froggie
Aruba: froggie
Australia: national highway 1, froggie
Austria: webfil, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Bahamas: froggie, epzik8
Bahrain: froggie
Belgium: kurumi, kphoger, MisterSG1
Belize: Brandon, epzik8
Bosnia and Herzegovina: corco
Brazil: New to Seattle, froggie
Bulgaria: corco
Canada: Several forum members
Cayman Islands: Brandon
Chile: froggie
China (PRC):: corco, froggie (technically)
China (ROC, better known as Taiwan): AlexandriaVA, SignGeek101
Costa Rica: doorknob60
Croatia: Truvelo
Cuba: froggie
Czech Republic: Alps, kphoger
Denmark: 1995hoo
Djibouti: froggie
Dominican Republic: jeffandnicole
Ecuador: froggie
Estonia: 1995hoo
Ethiopia: froggie
Finland: 1995hoo
France: several forum members
Germany: several forum members
Greece: froggie, corco
Guatemala: Us 81
Haiti: jeffandnicole, (technically) oscar
Honduras: Brandon
Hungary: Truvelo
Iceland: froggie, Alps, Dougkerr, Duke87
India: kurumi
Indonesia: gibranalnn, SignGeek101
Ireland: Truvelo, (really technically) oscar
Israel: Alps
Italy: several forum members
Japan: froggie, kurumi, SignGeek101
Jordan: Alps
Kenya: froggie
Liechtenstein: kphoger
Luxembourg: Truvelo
Maceonia: corco
Malaysia: froggie
Mauritius: froggie
Mexico: Several forum members
Montenegro: corco
Nepal: berberry
The Netherlands: Chris, froggie, kphoger
Norway: froggie, Alps
Panama: froggie
Peru: AsphaltPlanet
Philippines: wishfulanthony, froggie
Poland: froggie, Alps, kphoger
Portugal: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie
Romania: corco
Russia: 1995hoo, rothman
St. Lucia: froggie
Serbia: corco
Seychelles: froggie
Singapore: froggie
Slovakia: Truvelo
Slovenia: webfil
Spain: several forum members
Sweden: froggie, Alps, 1995hoo
Switzerland: Alps, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Thailand: froggie, kurumi
Trinidad and Tobago: formulanone
United Arab Emirates: froggie
United Kingdom: Several forum members
United States: Most of us
Uruguay: froggie
Vatican City: kurumi, froggie, AlexandriaVA
I've also been to France and Italy, but there have been a bunch of us who have been to both countries.
I think we should also list those forum members who have never been to the USA. Chris and myself come to mind.
San Marino for me, in addition.
USA
Canada
Mexico
Bahamas
Barbados
St. Lucia
Antigua and Barbuda
Just Canada so far
US, Canada, Mexico, UK, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Germany and Netherlands.
Adding myself to the list (new countries in bold):
Albania: corco
Andorra: CNGL-Leudimin
Argentina: froggie
Aruba: froggie
Australia: national highway 1, froggie
Austria: webfil, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Bahamas: froggie, epzik8, empirestate
Bahrain: froggie
Barbados: empirestate
Belgium: kurumi, kphoger, MisterSG1
Belize: Brandon, epzik8
Bosnia and Herzegovina: corco
Brazil: New to Seattle, froggie
Bulgaria: corco
Canada: Several forum members
Cayman Islands: Brandon
Chile: froggie
China (PRC):: corco, froggie (technically), empirestate
China (ROC, better known as Taiwan): AlexandriaVA, SignGeek101
China (Hong Kong): empirestate
Colombia: empirestate
Costa Rica: doorknob60
Croatia: Truvelo
Cuba: froggie
Czech Republic: Alps, kphoger
Denmark: 1995hoo
Djibouti: froggie
Dominican Republic: jeffandnicole
Ecuador: froggie
Estonia: 1995hoo
Ethiopia: froggie
Finland: 1995hoo
France: several forum members
Germany: several forum members
Greece: froggie, corco
Guatemala: Us 81
Haiti: jeffandnicole, (technically) oscar
Honduras: Brandon
Hungary: Truvelo
Iceland: froggie, Alps, Dougkerr, Duke87
India: kurumi
Indonesia: gibranalnn, SignGeek101
Ireland: Truvelo, (really technically) oscar, empirestate
Israel: Alps
Italy: several forum members
Japan: froggie, kurumi, SignGeek101, empirestate
Jordan: Alps
Kenya: froggie
Korea, South: empirestate
Liechtenstein: kphoger
Luxembourg: Truvelo
Maceonia: corco
Malaysia: froggie
Mauritius: froggie
Mexico: Several forum members
Monaco: empirestate
Montenegro: corco
Nepal: berberry
The Netherlands: Chris, froggie, kphoger
Norway: froggie, Alps
Panama: froggie, empirestate (?) (onboard a vessel in inland waters)
Peru: AsphaltPlanet
Philippines: wishfulanthony, froggie
Poland: froggie, Alps, kphoger
Portugal: CNGL-Leudimin, froggie
Romania: corco
Russia: 1995hoo, rothman, empirestate
St. Kitts and Nevis: empirestate
St. Lucia: froggie, empirestate
St. Vincent and the Grenadines: empirestate
Serbia: corco
Seychelles: froggie
Singapore: froggie
Slovakia: Truvelo
Slovenia: webfil
Spain: several forum members
Sweden: froggie, Alps, 1995hoo
Switzerland: Alps, kphoger, AlexandriaVA
Thailand: froggie, kurumi
Trinidad and Tobago: formulanone, empirestate
United Arab Emirates: froggie
United Kingdom: Several forum members
United States: Most of us
Uruguay: froggie
Vatican City: kurumi, froggie, AlexandriaVA
And how are we handling dependent territories? I've been to the following dependencies of the Netherlands, but not the "mother" country:
Aruba
Netherlands Antilles (at the time; now Curaçao and Sint Maarten)
And the following dependencies, as well as their homelands:
British Virgin Islands (UK)
Isle of Man (UK)
Saint-Martin (then part of Guadeloupe, an overseas department of France)
Hong Kong has been part of PR China since the British handover in 1997. It is a special administrative region with a different legal system, but is as much part of PR China as Beijing is.
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on November 17, 2016, 09:05:33 AM
Hong Kong has been part of PR China since the British handover in 1997. It is a special administrative region with a different legal system, but is as much part of PR China as Beijing is.
That's correct. However, because of its special status many sources list it separately from, or in addition to, the mainland. So I've added that option, to be dealt with as appropriate (perhaps it's best thought of as a dependent territory).
The ones I've been to are:
US
Mexico
Cayman Islands (UK)
Jamaica
Honduras
Nicaragua
Brazil
Argentina
I've been to all the lower 48 and British Columbia and Ontario.
I have seen the Mexican border.
And got threatened by a border patrol agent because I was supposedly not supposed to take pictures of it.
France
Germany
Indonesia
Ireland
Italy
Malta
Spain
Thailand
UK
USA
Quote from: inkyatari on November 17, 2016, 03:33:33 PM
I have seen the Mexican border.
And got threatened by a border patrol agent because I was supposedly not supposed to take pictures of it.
I wonder if anyone on here has been to the border with North Korea and tried to take photos :ded:
Quote from: empirestate on November 16, 2016, 11:55:58 PM
And how are we handling dependent territories? I've been to the following dependencies of the Netherlands, but not the "mother" country:
Aruba
Netherlands Antilles (at the time; now Curaçao and Sint Maarten)
I would say you have been to the Netherlands. A dependent territory of a country is still a part of it.
Quote from: Duke87 on November 18, 2016, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: empirestate on November 16, 2016, 11:55:58 PM
And how are we handling dependent territories? I've been to the following dependencies of the Netherlands, but not the "mother" country:
Aruba
Netherlands Antilles (at the time; now Curaçao and Sint Maarten)
I would say you have been to the Netherlands. A dependent territory of a country is still a part of it.
FWIW, my claim upthread to have visited France is based solely on a visit to the French overseas department of Guadeloupe.
Quote from: Duke87 on November 18, 2016, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: empirestate on November 16, 2016, 11:55:58 PM
And how are we handling dependent territories? I've been to the following dependencies of the Netherlands, but not the "mother" country:
Aruba
Netherlands Antilles (at the time; now Curaçao and Sint Maarten)
I would say you have been to the Netherlands. A dependent territory of a country is still a part of it.
That could depend on the type of territory, though. In this case, the Netherlands Antilles were (and its component now are) a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, so you'd be quite apt in saying that they are part of the nation.
But in the U.S., for example, we distinguish between incorporated and unincorporated territories. The former comprise all the states, D.C., and for some reason Palmyra Atoll. (The reason is that Hawaii, like the other pre-statehood territories, was also an incorporated territory, and it included Palmyra Atoll. But the atoll was not retained by the state of Hawaii, nor was it ever disincorporated from the U.S.) All the other U.S. possessions are unincorporated, which essentially means they belong to the U.S. but are not "part of" it. And for whatever reason, if you'd been to Puerto Rico, you might let technicalities slide and say you'd been to the U.S., but you might not have the same inclination for American Samoa.
Quote from: empirestate on November 19, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 18, 2016, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: empirestate on November 16, 2016, 11:55:58 PM
And how are we handling dependent territories? I've been to the following dependencies of the Netherlands, but not the "mother" country:
Aruba
Netherlands Antilles (at the time; now Curaçao and Sint Maarten)
I would say you have been to the Netherlands. A dependent territory of a country is still a part of it.
That could depend on the type of territory, though. In this case, the Netherlands Antilles were (and its component now are) a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, so you'd be quite apt in saying that they are part of the nation.
But in the U.S., for example, we distinguish between incorporated and unincorporated territories. The former comprise all the states, D.C., and for some reason Palmyra Atoll. (The reason is that Hawaii, like the other pre-statehood territories, was also an incorporated territory, and it included Palmyra Atoll. But the atoll was not retained by the state of Hawaii, nor was it ever disincorporated from the U.S.) All the other U.S. possessions are unincorporated, which essentially means they belong to the U.S. but are not "part of" it. And for whatever reason, if you'd been to Puerto Rico, you might let technicalities slide and say you'd been to the U.S., but you might not have the same inclination for American Samoa.
CGP Grey to the rescue, making everything simple and easy as always.
You will now develop a deep love for Venn diagrams.
The Netherlands:
The UK:
The USA:
And, for good measure, the EU (including France specifically):
Quote from: empirestate on November 19, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
That could depend on the type of territory, though. In this case, the Netherlands Antilles were (and its component now are) a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, so you'd be quite apt in saying that they are part of the nation.
But in the U.S., for example, we distinguish between incorporated and unincorporated territories. The former comprise all the states, D.C., and for some reason Palmyra Atoll. (The reason is that Hawaii, like the other pre-statehood territories, was also an incorporated territory, and it included Palmyra Atoll. But the atoll was not retained by the state of Hawaii, nor was it ever disincorporated from the U.S.) All the other U.S. possessions are unincorporated, which essentially means they belong to the U.S. but are not "part of" it. And for whatever reason, if you'd been to Puerto Rico, you might let technicalities slide and say you'd been to the U.S., but you might not have the same inclination for American Samoa.
I would have the same inclination for American Samoa simply because there is no logical alternative. American Samoa is not an independent sovereign nation, so it therefore it must be considered a part of the nation it is dependent upon.
Quote from: Duke87 on November 20, 2016, 01:21:13 AM
Quote from: empirestate on November 19, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
That could depend on the type of territory, though. In this case, the Netherlands Antilles were (and its component now are) a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, so you'd be quite apt in saying that they are part of the nation.
But in the U.S., for example, we distinguish between incorporated and unincorporated territories. The former comprise all the states, D.C., and for some reason Palmyra Atoll. (The reason is that Hawaii, like the other pre-statehood territories, was also an incorporated territory, and it included Palmyra Atoll. But the atoll was not retained by the state of Hawaii, nor was it ever disincorporated from the U.S.) All the other U.S. possessions are unincorporated, which essentially means they belong to the U.S. but are not "part of" it. And for whatever reason, if you'd been to Puerto Rico, you might let technicalities slide and say you'd been to the U.S., but you might not have the same inclination for American Samoa.
I would have the same inclination for American Samoa simply because there is no logical alternative. American Samoa is not an independent sovereign nation, so it therefore it must be considered a part of the nation it is dependent upon.
Well, right, unless we decide we're counting non-constituent dependencies separately. (Or all dependencies, for that matter.)
My list:
United States of America --- born here
Canada --- visited many times
Iceland
Ireland
United Kingdom
France
The Netherlands
Germany
Switzerland
Liechtenstein
Austria
Denmark
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Estonia
Russia
Quote from: Duke87 on November 20, 2016, 01:21:13 AM
Quote from: empirestate on November 19, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
That could depend on the type of territory, though. In this case, the Netherlands Antilles were (and its component now are) a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, so you'd be quite apt in saying that they are part of the nation.
But in the U.S., for example, we distinguish between incorporated and unincorporated territories. The former comprise all the states, D.C., and for some reason Palmyra Atoll. (The reason is that Hawaii, like the other pre-statehood territories, was also an incorporated territory, and it included Palmyra Atoll. But the atoll was not retained by the state of Hawaii, nor was it ever disincorporated from the U.S.) All the other U.S. possessions are unincorporated, which essentially means they belong to the U.S. but are not "part of" it. And for whatever reason, if you'd been to Puerto Rico, you might let technicalities slide and say you'd been to the U.S., but you might not have the same inclination for American Samoa.
I would have the same inclination for American Samoa simply because there is no logical alternative. American Samoa is not an independent sovereign nation, so it therefore it must be considered a part of the nation it is dependent upon.
American Samoa is weird because of the fact that American Samoans are not US citizens (in fact, they are citizens of no country, unless their parents are or they naturalize) but instead US nationals. American Samoa also has its own customs/immigration and many laws in conflict with federal law (such as a communal land structure and banning non-Samoans from owning property in many areas), and I read that a passport is required if you want to visit.
You do not need a passport to travel to visit the American Samoa or any other territory. https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/980/~/needing-a-passport-to-enter-the-united-states-from-u.s.-territories
I think I've mentioned this before, but I've been to San Marino (as well as Canada and Italy).
Apparently the island territories are even more complicated than I thought.
http://cis.org/USIslandTerritories-InternationalMigration
Taiwan in 1992.