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Title: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: peterj920 on November 15, 2016, 09:16:30 PM
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Here is a roundabout at County F and Mid Valley Rd in De Pere, WI.  A path was constructed through the center of the roundabout to accommodate large trucks.  Usually there is a gate that prevents other traffic from cutting through the center.  Are there any other examples where there is a path constructed through the center of a roundabout?
Title: Re: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: Brian556 on November 16, 2016, 12:53:29 AM
To me, that's a bad idea. If trucks can't fit through the roundabout, don't build the damn thing.
Title: Re: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: lordsutch on November 16, 2016, 01:41:00 AM
There are some in the UK for routes that frequently see oversized vehicles, but in general they're designed in such a way that you'd need to shut down traffic temporarily to use them. Without clearer photos I can't tell if this roundabout is similar.

This example in the UK (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ross-on-Wye,+UK/@52.0477663,-2.1362941,254m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4871ac149bba7cbb:0x791467235f8dc432!8m2!3d51.91445!4d-2.582446) seems to be used more as a staging area than as a cut-through, though, as the radius of the roundabout should be sufficient for even a huge vehicle.
Title: Re: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 16, 2016, 06:17:18 AM
While not true roundabouts, NJ has done that on occasion with some of their circles.  But...they have traffic lights as well.  A notable example is US 1 at Washington Road: https://goo.gl/maps/tNkC2Nzyrz42 .  Another example of one recently constructed is on Delilah Road off Exit 9 of the AC Expressway: https://goo.gl/maps/ETE1yWQk7PS2
Title: Re: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: 1995hoo on November 16, 2016, 07:31:16 AM
Usually with roundabouts, both in the US and in the UK, I've seen the island designed with a "mountable curb [or kerb, I guess]" that large trucks can run up onto while passing through the roundabout.
Title: Re: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: english si on November 16, 2016, 09:20:02 AM
This one is an escape lane (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.1260317,1.3272454,3a,32.5y,343.92h,83.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1skajx9E81GvNsbRPolQIP2w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dkajx9E81GvNsbRPolQIP2w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D126.80644%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) for runaway vehicles - it used to be a bit better weeded.
Title: Re: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: BrianP on November 16, 2016, 09:47:13 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 16, 2016, 07:31:16 AM
Usually with roundabouts, both in the US and in the UK, I've seen the island designed with a "mountable curb [or kerb, I guess]" that large trucks can run up onto while passing through the roundabout.
It's a truck apron:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_apron
Title: Re: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: PHLBOS on November 16, 2016, 12:00:27 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 16, 2016, 06:17:18 AM
While not true roundabouts, NJ has done that on occasion with some of their circles.  But...they have traffic lights as well.  A notable example is US 1 at Washington Road: https://goo.gl/maps/tNkC2Nzyrz42 .  Another example of one recently constructed is on Delilah Road off Exit 9 of the AC Expressway: https://goo.gl/maps/ETE1yWQk7PS2
MA did similar when it redesigned its Bell Circle rotary (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4091198,-71.001387,204m/data=!3m1!1e3) in Revere circa 1977.
Title: Re: Paths that cut through a roundabout
Post by: froggie on November 16, 2016, 02:02:05 PM
Definitely a bad idea.  This is what the truck apron is for.