NFL Playoffs! Who will win Super Bowl LI??? We'll fins out February 5 in Houston!
The twelve lucky teams who made the cut:
AFC 1: New England Patriots (AFC East Champions) 14-2
AFC 2: Kansas City Chiefs (AFC West Champions) 12-4
AFC 3: Pittsburgh Steelers (AFC North Champions) 11-5
AFC 4: Houston Texans (AFC South Champions) 9-7
AFC 5: Oakland Raiders (Wild Card 1) 12-4
AFC 6: Miami Dolphins (Wild Card 2) 10-6
NFC 1: Dallas Cowboys (NFC East Champions) 13-3
NFC 2: Atlanta Falcons (NFC South Champions) 11-5
NFC 3: Seattle Seahawks (NFC West Champions) 10-5-1
NFC 4: Green Bay Packers (NFC North Champions) 10-6
NFC 5: New York Giants (Wild Card 1) 11-5
NFC 6: Detroit Lions (Wild Card 2) 9-7
The Raiders, Dolphins and Lions have already been eliminated and the final wild card game, Giants-Packers, is in progress.
Giants are now eliminated after losing 38-13 to the Packers.
Probably would have been better to start this before Saturday. Not really any good games this weekend, kind of disappointing.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 08, 2017, 09:14:53 PM
Giants are now eliminated after losing 38-13 to the Packers.
So this means that we Bears fans now have to root for Dallas to beat them in the Divisional round.
We'll eventually find out Robert Kraft hired the yacht OBJ and his buddies partied on in Miami, and sent the invite
Dallas and Green Bay will be meeting each other in the playoffs for the 8th time (DAL leads 4-3 currently.) That will tie Cowboys/Rams, Steelers/Broncos and 49ers/Giants for the most frequent playoff matchup in NFL history.
Okay, I'm biased as a Redskins fan but...WOOHOO THE COWBOYS ARE OUT!!!!!!!!
As a Packers fan, I still do not understand how Aaron Rodgers keeps making these plays at the end of games. Great catch by Jared Cook for sure.
I'm a Falcons fan, but this year they seem like one of those teams that inevitably get run over by a team on a magical run like the Packers, so I think I know how I'll be spending Superbowl Sunday.
I hate Dallas, so Green Bay winning is about the only time in any sport I like hearing "Crosby scores."
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 15, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
I hate Dallas, so Green Bay winning is about the only time in any sport I like hearing "Crosby scores."
I disagree. I am so tired of Green Bay. I am tired of New England and Pittsburgh so I am going for Atlanta becasue they are the only team left that is not there every year. It's pathetic every year it's always the same old same old in the playoffs it's not good for the league. In the AFC it's always the Patriots if not in the Super Bowl at least in the AFC Championship game and if it's not them it's the Steelers and of course they are the same 2 teams we are stuck with again this year.
Quote from: dvferyance on January 16, 2017, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 15, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
I hate Dallas, so Green Bay winning is about the only time in any sport I like hearing "Crosby scores."
I disagree. I am so tired of Green Bay. I am tired of New England and Pittsburgh so I am going for Atlanta becasue they are the only team left that is not there every year. It's pathetic every year it's always the same old same old in the playoffs it's not good for the league. In the AFC it's always the Patriots if not in the Super Bowl at least in the AFC Championship game and if it's not them it's the Steelers and of course they are the same 2 teams we are stuck with again this year.
Packers: Won 1997 and 2011, lost 1998. Hardly a recent history of "same old every year". Falcons lost 1999. Steelers have four appearances starting in 1996.
Quote from: Alps on January 16, 2017, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on January 16, 2017, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 15, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
I hate Dallas, so Green Bay winning is about the only time in any sport I like hearing "Crosby scores."
I disagree. I am so tired of Green Bay. I am tired of New England and Pittsburgh so I am going for Atlanta becasue they are the only team left that is not there every year. It's pathetic every year it's always the same old same old in the playoffs it's not good for the league. In the AFC it's always the Patriots if not in the Super Bowl at least in the AFC Championship game and if it's not them it's the Steelers and of course they are the same 2 teams we are stuck with again this year.
Packers: Won 1997 and 2011, lost 1998. Hardly a recent history of "same old every year". Falcons lost 1999. Steelers have four appearances starting in 1996.
I am referring to the NFL postseason in general not just the super bowl. The Packers have been in the playoffs every year since 2009 they still even made the playoffs in 2013 when Rodgers was out half the season and went a miserable 8-7-1. Almost never does an 8-7-1 team make the playoffs but they were still there. I don't even have to go on with the Patriots they are there every year going as far as at least the AFC championship game and the Steelers almost every year make the playoffs as well. I should mention that the AFC qb in the super bowl since 2004 has been either Brady, Manning or Rothlisburger. One exception being Joe Flacco in super bowl 47. Manning is now retired and well guess what who are the 2 AFC qbs left? Of course Brady and Rothlisburger. This is just getting to be so fatiguing.
GB-Atl: Shootout City! Pit-NE: Crack The Safe! Those are the gameflows I see coming next Sunday. No way would I bet on who wins but the over for GB-Atl looks to be a good proposition if it is 65 or under. These two offenses are on fire and neither D is that good as we saw in the regular season matchup between these two teams.
Rick
I was just happy to get some decent games going after the wild card round. I'll admit though, it was a lot of fun to watch the Falcons smack around the Sea Hawks...since I really don't care for the other three teams left I'll be rooting for them.
Quote from: dvferyance on January 16, 2017, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 15, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
I hate Dallas, so Green Bay winning is about the only time in any sport I like hearing "Crosby scores."
I disagree. I am so tired of Green Bay. I am tired of New England and Pittsburgh so I am going for Atlanta becasue they are the only team left that is not there every year. It's pathetic every year it's always the same old same old in the playoffs it's not good for the league. In the AFC it's always the Patriots if not in the Super Bowl at least in the AFC Championship game and if it's not them it's the Steelers and of course they are the same 2 teams we are stuck with again this year.
At least the Super Bowl was different last year, though it was embarrassing as hell to watch my Panthers take the ass whippin' that they did. The Panthers have been a total shit-show this season. :ded:
With a PaPa Bowl I could probably sit back and just enjoy the game, but probably end up rooting for the Packers. Pats are a little annoying as of late (even though they're the original home team). In the future, I guess it will be marginally nicer if the Pats have won n+1 Super Bowls instead of n. But this year... ehh.
What I'd like to see (however unlikely) is a Bills-Vikings Super Bowl. Somebody has to win that one.
Quote from: kurumi on January 17, 2017, 10:47:21 PM
With a PaPa Bowl I could probably sit back and just enjoy the game, but probably end up rooting for the Packers. Pats are a little annoying as of late (even though they're the original home team). In the future, I guess it will be marginally nicer if the Pats have won n+1 Super Bowls instead of n. But this year... ehh.
What I'd like to see (however unlikely) is a Bills-Vikings Super Bowl. Somebody has to win that one.
That matchup would be Super Bowl magic! The only one better would be two no-shows in the form of Detroit and Cleveland. If we can wind up with a tremendous World Series between the Cubs and Indians, why not dream of the equivalent for a pro pigskin title matchup?
Rick
Quote from: Alps on January 16, 2017, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on January 16, 2017, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 15, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
I hate Dallas, so Green Bay winning is about the only time in any sport I like hearing "Crosby scores."
I disagree. I am so tired of Green Bay. I am tired of New England and Pittsburgh so I am going for Atlanta becasue they are the only team left that is not there every year. It's pathetic every year it's always the same old same old in the playoffs it's not good for the league. In the AFC it's always the Patriots if not in the Super Bowl at least in the AFC Championship game and if it's not them it's the Steelers and of course they are the same 2 teams we are stuck with again this year.
Packers: Won 1997 and 2011, lost 1998. Hardly a recent history of "same old every year". Falcons lost 1999. Steelers have four appearances starting in 1996.
This is nothing compared to the run from 1986/7 to 1994/5 where four teams won nine Super Bowls, all NFC (and four AFC teams lost those nine Super Bowls, two accounting for seven losses).
Quote from: nexus73 on January 17, 2017, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: kurumi on January 17, 2017, 10:47:21 PM
With a PaPa Bowl I could probably sit back and just enjoy the game, but probably end up rooting for the Packers. Pats are a little annoying as of late (even though they're the original home team). In the future, I guess it will be marginally nicer if the Pats have won n+1 Super Bowls instead of n. But this year... ehh.
What I'd like to see (however unlikely) is a Bills-Vikings Super Bowl. Somebody has to win that one.
That matchup would be Super Bowl magic! The only one better would be two no-shows in the form of Detroit and Cleveland. If we can wind up with a tremendous World Series between the Cubs and Indians, why not dream of the equivalent for a pro pigskin title matchup?
Rick
Wouldn't that technically be Arizona vs Cleveland? The Cardinals haven't won a championship since 1947 and the Lions last was in 1957. Granted Arizona has actually made it to a Super Bowl and almost won.
Doing what we did last year, we're gonna watch the Superbowl up in NYC. Turns out rates are very cheap that weekend (at least when I booked it), and a particular bar we like has unlimited draft beers and a large plate of wings for starters for $25. We don't care the team that's playing...it's a good, relatively cheap for NYC Weekend trip!
The rate we got was under $100, just off Times Square. Looking around the Hilton website, I came upon an offer for a deeply discounted point offer. So now we're going to stay Sat & Sun night in NYC for absolutely free! :-)
I'm definitely rooting for a Pittsburgh-Atlanta Super Bowl, because I hate the Packers, and I do not like the Patriots either.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 19, 2017, 07:48:42 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on January 17, 2017, 10:53:56 PM
That matchup would be Super Bowl magic! The only one better would be two no-shows in the form of Detroit and Cleveland. If we can wind up with a tremendous World Series between the Cubs and Indians, why not dream of the equivalent for a pro pigskin title matchup?
Rick
Wouldn't that technically be Arizona vs Cleveland? The Cardinals haven't won a championship since 1947 and the Lions last was in 1957. Granted Arizona has actually made it to a Super Bowl and almost won.
If you want it to be the teams that have gone the longest without a championship it would be Cardinals vs Lions. The Browns last championship was in 1964.
Quote from: Buck87 on January 19, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 19, 2017, 07:48:42 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on January 17, 2017, 10:53:56 PM
That matchup would be Super Bowl magic! The only one better would be two no-shows in the form of Detroit and Cleveland. If we can wind up with a tremendous World Series between the Cubs and Indians, why not dream of the equivalent for a pro pigskin title matchup?
Rick
Wouldn't that technically be Arizona vs Cleveland? The Cardinals haven't won a championship since 1947 and the Lions last was in 1957. Granted Arizona has actually made it to a Super Bowl and almost won.
If you want it to be the teams that have gone the longest without a championship it would be Cardinals vs Lions. The Browns last championship was in 1964.
That was the old Browns who are now the Baltimore Ravens and they have won 2 super bowls. The Current Browns team as only been around since 1999.
Quote from: dvferyance on January 19, 2017, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on January 19, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 19, 2017, 07:48:42 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on January 17, 2017, 10:53:56 PM
That matchup would be Super Bowl magic! The only one better would be two no-shows in the form of Detroit and Cleveland. If we can wind up with a tremendous World Series between the Cubs and Indians, why not dream of the equivalent for a pro pigskin title matchup?
Rick
Wouldn't that technically be Arizona vs Cleveland? The Cardinals haven't won a championship since 1947 and the Lions last was in 1957. Granted Arizona has actually made it to a Super Bowl and almost won.
If you want it to be the teams that have gone the longest without a championship it would be Cardinals vs Lions. The Browns last championship was in 1964.
That was the old Browns who are now the Baltimore Ravens and they have won 2 super bowls. The Current Browns team as only been around since 1999.
Not according to the NFL. The Browns history stays with the Browns, who just happened to be inactive for three years around the same time that the Ravens came to the NFL as a new franchise. Oh and the 1996 Ravens just happened to have a lot of the same players as the 1995 Browns. [/sarcasm]
Either way, the Browns history is still Cleveland's/Ohio's, whether or not the NFL officially says it is. History is not something that can be relocated.
I consider the old Browns to have split into the current Browns and the Ravens. In that line, in the NBA I also consider such a split, from the original Hornets into the New Orleans Hornets (now Pelicans) and the Bobcats (now once again Hornets).
Atlanta leads Green Bay 24-0 at halftime.
Some costly turnovers and a missed FG really hurting the Packers so far.
Green Bay... :-D :-D
Nice way for the Falcons to close out the Georgia Dome. I'll definitely be pulling for them in the Super Bowl, as I dislike both teams in the AFC title game. Speaking of that game, it's been a pretty good one so far, with NE currently holding a 17-9 lead early in the 3rd.
Welp, the Steelers are out. I hope the Falcons beat the Patriots.
Quote from: LM117 on January 23, 2017, 07:12:05 AM
Welp, the Steelers are out. I hope the Falcons beat the Patriots.
Hopefully they make it interesting, people are going to assume that this is going to the Patriots coronation game.
The Falcons it is! And I'm so glad they eliminated the hated Packers in what was the last ever game at the Georgia Dome; it had all the makings of a storybook ending.
Quote from: Henry on January 23, 2017, 10:35:40 AM
The Falcons it is! And I'm so glad they eliminated the hated Packers in what was the last ever game at the Georgia Dome; it had all the makings of a storybook ending.
Last ever game? Twenty-five years is as long as stadiums last now?
Was MC Hammer back for an encore? He was the star of that place when it opened, hanging around the sidelines in his Zubaz, flashing that "2 legit 2 quit" hand signal.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 23, 2017, 11:18:48 AMLast ever game? Twenty-five years is as long as stadiums last now?
And I know it wasn't built for the Olympics specifically, and merely used as a venue because it was there and newish, but this Atlantan attitude to the '96 games' venues is why US cities will struggle to get a Summer Olympics - zero lasting legacy, zero respect for the games.
But I guess if you are going to be logan's runned, then last nights game is a good way to go - dominating a conference championship final from start to end.
Given that cities generally will bend over backwards to pay for the stadium, it doesn't take a genius to see why they get built so frequently.
Quote from: Buck87 on January 19, 2017, 03:05:43 PM
Either way, the Browns history is still Cleveland's/Ohio's, whether or not the NFL officially says it is. History is not something that can be relocated.
So does that mean the old Hornets team history is now part of the current Hornets instead of the Pelicans? Does that mean the Colts records in Baltimore now count as the Ravens since the team moved to Indianapolis? The Houston Oilers history is now part of the Texans? How about the LA Rams? Since they won their only super bowl in St Louis they shouldn't be allowed to have that super bowl banner up in LA. A franchise is still the same franchise regardless of whether the team relocates or not.
Quote from: Henry on January 23, 2017, 10:35:40 AM
The Falcons it is! And I'm so glad they eliminated the hated Packers in what was the last ever game at the Georgia Dome; it had all the makings of a storybook ending.
Agreed the Falcons were the only team remaining that were not all sick of. I would love to see them win the sb. It's such a shame though that they are going to tear down the Georgia Dome that stadium is just 25 years old could last at least another 5 more years.
Quote from: dvferyance on January 23, 2017, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on January 19, 2017, 03:05:43 PM
Either way, the Browns history is still Cleveland's/Ohio's, whether or not the NFL officially says it is. History is not something that can be relocated.
So does that mean the old Hornets team history is now part of the current Hornets instead of the Pelicans? Does that mean the Colts records in Baltimore now count as the Ravens since the team moved to Indianapolis? The Houston Oilers history is now part of the Texans? How about the LA Rams? Since they won their only super bowl in St Louis they shouldn't be allowed to have that super bowl banner up in LA. A franchise is still the same franchise regardless of whether the team relocates or not.
Actually, as far as the Hornets/Pelicans goes, the NBA did officially return the 1988-2002 history of the original Hornets to the current Hornets when they did the name change, which is a great decision IMO.
But anyway, the point I'm making is that while franchises may move, the history they made while in a city will always be a part of that city's history. The 1955 World Series will always be a part of the history of Brooklyn, not Los Angeles. The 1957 World Series will always be a part of the history of Milwaukee, not Atlanta. And so on.
Quote from: english si on January 23, 2017, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 23, 2017, 11:18:48 AMLast ever game? Twenty-five years is as long as stadiums last now?
And I know it wasn't built for the Olympics specifically, and merely used as a venue because it was there and newish, but this Atlantan attitude to the '96 games' venues is why US cities will struggle to get a Summer Olympics - zero lasting legacy, zero respect for the games.
But I guess if you are going to be logan's runned, then last nights game is a good way to go - dominating a conference championship final from start to end.
The Braves are also moving into a new stadium this year northwest of the city in Cobb County. Turner Field was specifically built for the 1996 games before the Braves started playing there in 1997.
The idea of reattaching a team's history to their replacement is a fairly recent one that seems to be to smooth over public objection.
It feels like they're saying, "Look, see? There was never any trouble here."
It's as plausible as that time in the Simpsons where something preposterous upended the basic premise of a character so the judge declared that nobody could ever speak of it again.
Quote from: english si on January 23, 2017, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 23, 2017, 11:18:48 AMLast ever game? Twenty-five years is as long as stadiums last now?
And I know it wasn't built for the Olympics specifically, and merely used as a venue because it was there and newish, but this Atlantan attitude to the '96 games' venues is why US cities will struggle to get a Summer Olympics - zero lasting legacy, zero respect for the games.
But I guess if you are going to be logan's runned, then last nights game is a good way to go - dominating a conference championship final from start to end.
At least Los Angeles' bid to host the Olympics in 2024 will involve them using the same stadium that they used in 1932 and 1984 (with some enhancements.) Along with the new Rams/Chargers football stadium of course.
And as a Colts fan I can only say, let's go Falcons.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 23, 2017, 10:05:23 PM
It's as plausible as that time in the Simpsons where something preposterous upended the basic premise of a character so the judge declared that nobody could ever speak of it again.
Armin who? ;)
I guess we ran out of table yesterday :/
Good luck Atlanta. Take down the evil empire.
So there are now commercials running for Falcons NFC championship gear and Patriots AFC Championship (both for the NFL online store)
While there are always commericals for championship gear that pop up immediately after each of the Big 4 Pro and Big 2 College championships, I can't quite remember seeing ones like this at the conference/semifinal round.
Quote from: Buck87 on January 26, 2017, 05:57:14 PM
So there are now commercials running for Falcons NFC championship gear and Patriots AFC Championship (both for the NFL online store)
While there are always commericals for championship gear that pop up immediately after each of the Big 4 Pro and Big 2 College championships, I can't quite remember seeing ones like this at the conference/semifinal round.
Its pretty normal in the cities where the teams have won. If you're seeing them elsewhere, they're probably just taking advantage of the opportunity to market their website.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 23, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 23, 2017, 10:05:23 PM
It's as plausible as that time in the Simpsons where something preposterous upended the basic premise of a character so the judge declared that nobody could ever speak of it again.
Armin who? ;)
I guess we ran out of table yesterday :/
Good luck Atlanta. Take down the evil empire.
Obligatory pie chart making the rounds over the past few days:
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This will be a fun super bowl
The Patriots have won enough Super Bowls across the years with different rosters that I think it proves:
Every position/occupation other than Head Coach and QB is pretty irrelevant.
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on January 26, 2017, 11:11:26 PM
The Patriots have won enough Super Bowls across the years with different rosters that I think it proves:
Every position/occupation other than Head Coach and QB is pretty irrelevant.
Every position is irrelevant when you're friends with the commish. The NFL is more corrupt than Hudson County in the 1970s.
Quote from: Alps on January 26, 2017, 11:38:26 PM
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on January 26, 2017, 11:11:26 PM
The Patriots have won enough Super Bowls across the years with different rosters that I think it proves:
Every position/occupation other than Head Coach and QB is pretty irrelevant.
Every position is irrelevant when you're friends with the commish. The NFL is more corrupt than Hudson County in the 1970s.
Who's friends with the commissioner?
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on January 26, 2017, 11:11:26 PM
The Patriots have won enough Super Bowls across the years with different rosters that I think it proves:
Every position/occupation other than Head Coach and QB is pretty irrelevant.
I would NOT go that far. If that was the case, the Packers would be in the Super Bowl every year playing them. :wow: They got creamed by the Falcons partly due to a defense that could not have stopped the Falcons offense in its sleep.
Also the Broncos won the Super Bowl last year almost entirely due to its defense.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 27, 2017, 06:50:02 AMAlso the Broncos won the Super Bowl last year almost entirely due to its defense.
You just HAD to bring that up! :poke: :ded:
Right, and where were the Broncos this year? Trend analysis can allow for one-off flukes. I should have added that if you're looking at the best strategy for increasing the odds of winning a Super Bowl in any given season.
Folks in New England still love to perpetuate the idea that people dislike the Patriots simply out of envy. It's completely lost on them that to the casual fan, this is getting dull.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 27, 2017, 10:02:04 PM
Folks in New England still love to perpetuate the idea that people dislike the Patriots simply out of envy. It's completely lost on them that to the casual fan, this is getting dull.
I'm cheering for the Patriots and I know how hated they truly are.
Quote from: texaskdog on January 28, 2017, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 27, 2017, 10:02:04 PM
Folks in New England still love to perpetuate the idea that people dislike the Patriots simply out of envy. It's completely lost on them that to the casual fan, this is getting dull.
I'm cheering for the Patriots and I know how hated they truly are.
I usually go for whatever team has the most University of Michigan players (god knows the Lions won't be in the Super Bowl anytime soon) for the most part since they are my college team. That being the case the Patriots obviously have Tom Brady but had other notable UofM players like Ty Law for a long time. Besides why would I want teams other than mine to succeed or end long championship droughts? The Falcons have never won anything, the Lions last won a championship back in 1957....so yeah, doesn't do anything for me. Back when the Cardinals were in the Super Bowl I got a whole bunch my neighbors all relied up (I was living in Phoenix) because I didn't want their streak from 1947 to end and push the Lions back yet another peg.
But for the casual fan I think that they just want to see something new. The Patriots do have a seedy reputation with all the minor level scandals over the years on top of all the championships they have already won. Its ironic to me because I remember when I was living in Connecticut as a kid that they really weren't much of anything other than another bad team.
I can't wait for the Pro Bowl.
said no one ever
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 27, 2017, 06:50:02 AM
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on January 26, 2017, 11:11:26 PM
The Patriots have won enough Super Bowls across the years with different rosters that I think it proves:
Every position/occupation other than Head Coach and QB is pretty irrelevant.
I would NOT go that far. If that was the case, the Packers would be in the Super Bowl every year playing them. :wow: They got creamed by the Falcons partly due to a defense that could not have stopped the Falcons offense in its sleep.
Also the Broncos won the Super Bowl last year almost entirely due to its defense.
The Packers were very lucky they got as far as they did this year. Had they lost one or two more games in the regular season which was very possible they would not have even been in the playoffs.
Quote from: Alps on January 28, 2017, 11:25:04 AM
I can't wait for the Pro Bowl.
said no one ever
Weird it showed up in Orlando of all places. Probably still wouldn't have gone if I was still living there.
Anyone hoping the Patriots win so it forces Goodell to hand the trophy to Brady? :-D
Quote from: ET21 on February 02, 2017, 06:20:58 PM
Anyone hoping the Patriots win so it forces Goodell to hand the trophy to Brady? :-D
You know the whole thing is a shell game. Goodell loves the cheaters because they rake in money around the country, both from those who bandwagon for them and those who hate them (buying more stuff for the other 31 teams to counter).
Quote from: ET21 on February 02, 2017, 06:20:58 PM
Anyone hoping the Patriots win so it forces Goodell to hand the trophy to Brady? :-D
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The year of the Rooster (鳥) must surely bring good fortune upon the Falcons (笨鳥).
Other Super Bowl vocabulary: football (手卵), Patriots (白人), guacamole (緑泥), Budweiser (水).
From now I decided to root for whoever has the longest championship drought. In this case the Atlanta Falcons since they have never won a Super Bowl, which keeps in line with all the hate towards the New England Patriots.
Quote from: kurumi on February 03, 2017, 11:55:29 AMBudweiser (尿).
Fixed that for you, it was missing a few strokes...
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 27, 2017, 06:50:02 AM
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on January 26, 2017, 11:11:26 PM
The Patriots have won enough Super Bowls across the years with different rosters that I think it proves:
Every position/occupation other than Head Coach and QB is pretty irrelevant.
I would NOT go that far. If that was the case, the Packers would be in the Super Bowl every year playing them. :wow: They got creamed by the Falcons partly due to a defense that could not have stopped the Falcons offense in its sleep.
Also the Broncos won the Super Bowl last year almost entirely due to its defense.
The Packers lost because they over preformed and eventually ran out of gas. They had to go on the road at Dallas come home to Green Bay then play at Atlanta. That's a tough place to be in especially when you win 8 games in a row.
Quote from: dvferyance on February 04, 2017, 11:42:26 PM
The Packers lost because they over preformed and eventually ran out of gas. They had to go on the road at Dallas come home to Green Bay then play at Atlanta. That's a tough place to be in especially when you win 8 games in a row.
Somehow it's easier to take a blow-out loss than a dramatic, last minute loss as a fan. When you're blown away, there's never only one or two things to get outraged at. Clearly nothing went right the thoughts of "if only" don't gnaw at you.
I've experienced both in recent years and I can say definitively, this one sucked less.
The only person in the NFL I might dislike more than the High Commissioner is Tom Brady. Well, there's also Belichek... and Robert Kraft. Ooh, and Jerry Jones is another asshole. No, I can't start counting owners, because most of them are scum. Seriously, the majority of NFL team owners are awful human beings who deserve cancer. That's a different level of 'fuck you'. Brady is a saint compared to them. So I'll stick with players. Brady probably tops my list of most dislikable players. Which is saying something in a league with routine DUI's, steroid use, alleged sexual assault, occasional attempted murder and rampant domestic abuse. There's just something about his smarmy, punchable face that causes me to dislike Tom Brady more than guys who beat up girlfriends and forced dogs to kill each other.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on February 05, 2017, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on February 04, 2017, 11:42:26 PM
The Packers lost because they over preformed and eventually ran out of gas. They had to go on the road at Dallas come home to Green Bay then play at Atlanta. That's a tough place to be in especially when you win 8 games in a row.
Somehow it's easier to take a blow-out loss than a dramatic, last minute loss as a fan. When you're blown away, there's never only one or two things to get outraged at. Clearly nothing went right the thoughts of "if only" don't gnaw at you.
I've experienced both in recent years and I can say definitively, this one sucked less.
The only person in the NFL I might dislike more than the High Commissioner is Tom Brady. Well, there's also Belichek... and Robert Kraft. Ooh, and Jerry Jones is another asshole. No, I can't start counting owners, because most of them are scum. Seriously, the majority of NFL team owners are awful human beings who deserve cancer. That's a different level of 'fuck you'. Brady is a saint compared to them. So I'll stick with players. Brady probably tops my list of most dislikable players. Which is saying something in a league with routine DUI's, steroid use, alleged sexual assault, occasional attempted murder and rampant domestic abuse. There's just something about his smarmy, punchable face that causes me to dislike Tom Brady more than guys who beat up girlfriends and forced dogs to kill each other.
You are dramatic and slightly scary but I endorse the above paragraph.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on February 05, 2017, 12:32:34 PMSomehow it's easier to take a blow-out loss than a dramatic, last minute loss as a fan.
The "what might have been" issue. I take England's Euro '96 and France '98 exits more severely than getting schooled by Iceland (who should have been schooled by England) in Euro '16 - part of that is the age I was, part of that is the 'old enemy' part of the losses (Germany and Argentina respectively), but most of that was the closeness of the fixture.
Both went through overtime and then penalties - Euro '96 going beyond the five and into sudden death.
'98 is worse as there's injustice: Simeone fouled Beckham with a challenge that was a red card offence in that tournement (and certainly a yellow). Beckham reacted and got sent off, but Simeone got a mere yellow, for diving in response to Beckham's reaction and then scored the winning penalty. England also had an overtime goal disallowed for little-to-no reason.
Great half by Atlanta. Scored on the ground, through the air, and with their defense.
Quote from: Buck87 on February 05, 2017, 08:05:33 PM
Great half by Atlanta. Scored on the ground, through the air, and with their defense.
I just want to see a good game, not a rehash of almost every 80s and 90s Super Bowl blow out.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 08:20:23 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on February 05, 2017, 08:05:33 PM
Great half by Atlanta. Scored on the ground, through the air, and with their defense.
I just want to see a good game, not a rehash of almost every 80s and 90s Super Bowl blow out.
You're probably the minority. Most of us would love to see the Patriots get destroyed.
Some issues for the Falcons, like giving away penalties they didn't need to and which saved the Pats skins a few times, albeit at the expense of another round of make Brady feel inadequate and get roughed up. My highlight of the first half - that disappointed and frustrated face on Brady as he sat down to make way for the kicking team to give them something to take into the second half.
And is it me, but did all that first block of Gaga songs blend so easily as they were so similar? And I'm guessing the crowd on the field are not in the stands when the football is out - it seems like they would have needed training to do the light show (which needed all the bathroom lights in the stadium off!!).
The one time the Pats were behind by 18+ at half time in the last 10 seasons, they won that game. And it's looking like Atlanta's Offense is a bit rusty after an hour of real time with nothing to do, plus little pressure with the defense being so strong, and the scoreline meaning a lack of demand for points (bad news for us seeking the Pats getting destroyed).
Quote from: cl94 on February 05, 2017, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 08:20:23 PM
Quote from: Buck87 on February 05, 2017, 08:05:33 PM
Great half by Atlanta. Scored on the ground, through the air, and with their defense.
I just want to see a good game, not a rehash of almost every 80s and 90s Super Bowl blow out.
You're probably the minority. Most of us would love to see the Patriots get destroyed.
Probably, but I'm a Lions fan and I have literally no stake in this game at all. Get Green Bay, Minnesota, and Chicago involved then we're talking a different story. Right now I'm getting ready to watch something else if the Falcons get in the end zone again.
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Now we got a real game 28-20.
indeed, getting very interesting now
Wow, Jones with an amazing catch, but Atlanta can't do anything with it
Then Edelman with a crazy catch and the Pats are knocking on the door at the 2 minute warning
Quote from: Buck87 on February 05, 2017, 10:01:55 PM
Wow, Jones with an amazing catch, but Atlanta can't do anything with it
Then Edelman with a crazy catch and the Pats are knocking on the door at the 2 minute warning
Really they got to get into the end-zone here. There isn't too much time to get another full field drive going.
Tie game, what a finish this turning out to be.
Looks like we're going for the first overtime in Super Bowl history
Amazing game. Cannot believe this will be the 1st OT in Super Bowl history.
Quote from: cl94 on February 05, 2017, 10:12:20 PM
Looks like we're going for the first overtime in Super Bowl history
Indeed it is, this should be interesting. Makes me wonder if that missed extra point is going to come back to haunt New England.
Almost blew it with that pass.... What a friggin comeback, glad that I didn't turn the game off after all. :-D
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 10:14:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 05, 2017, 10:12:20 PM
Looks like we're going for the first overtime in Super Bowl history
Indeed it is, this should be interesting. Makes me wonder if that missed extra point is going to come back to haunt New England.
They made up for that with their first 2 point conversion. Had they hit all their extra points they still would have been down 28-20.
Quote from: Buck87 on February 05, 2017, 10:25:47 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 10:14:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 05, 2017, 10:12:20 PM
Looks like we're going for the first overtime in Super Bowl history
Indeed it is, this should be interesting. Makes me wonder if that missed extra point is going to come back to haunt New England.
They made up for that with their first 2 point conversion. Had they hit all their extra points they still would have been down 28-20.
Yeah in retrospect that was the beer talking. That would have made more sense if that 2-point conversion at 28-26 was missed. Man, what a finish though....but maybe sudden death isn't the way to go with overtime in the Super Bowl? Why not just play a full 15 minutes, it isn't like there is a game the week after.
Greatest comeback and greatest choke in SB history in the same game?
So much for a new SB winner. That graphic they showed with world titles where Atlanta had one to Boston's 27 ended up being quite appropriate.
Quote from: Alex on February 05, 2017, 10:33:06 PM
Greatest comeback and greatest choke in SB history in the same game?
So much for a new SB winner. That graphic they showed with world titles where Atlanta had one to Boston's 27 ended up being quite appropriate.
Oh biggest choke by a country mile, all Atlanta had to do was make ONE defensive stop. I would still put the Rams/Titans and the Patroits/Panthers game ahead of this one despite the comeback.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
Yeah in retrospect that was the beer talking. That would have made more sense if that 2-point conversion at 28-26 was missed. Man, what a finish though....but maybe sudden death isn't the way to go with overtime in the Super Bowl? Why not just play a full 15 minutes, it isn't like there is a game the week after.
Yeah, the OT rule is pretty dumb IMO. It was good that they got rid of a first possession FG ending the game, but they just
had to leave the sudden death aspect in if its a first possession TD.
Here's hoping that having the first OT Super Bowl end this way puts pressure on the league to do something about the rules to ensure both teams get to have a possession no matter what.
Was thinking of that Atlanta vs Boston graphic and got it wrong. The SB 51 win is the 36th championship for Boston among the 4 major sports. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_in_Boston
Haha, Goodell got the shit booed out of him. :-D
Quote from: Buck87 on February 05, 2017, 10:39:17 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
Yeah in retrospect that was the beer talking. That would have made more sense if that 2-point conversion at 28-26 was missed. Man, what a finish though....but maybe sudden death isn't the way to go with overtime in the Super Bowl? Why not just play a full 15 minutes, it isn't like there is a game the week after.
Yeah, the OT rule is pretty dumb IMO. It was good that they got rid of a first possession FG ending the game, but they just had to leave the sudden death aspect in if its a first possession TD.
Here's hoping that having the first OT Super Bowl end this way puts pressure on the league to do something about the rules to ensure both teams get to have a possession no matter what.
At minimum in the playoffs both teams ought to get a possession. There isn't any reason why the length of the overtime should matter in a post season game. At least with this game it was pretty clear that the OT rules didn't hose the other team. Atlanta could have won this game with a stop on any of those drives or those two point conversions and it never would have gotten to OT.
Quote from: Alex on February 05, 2017, 10:44:02 PM
Was thinking of that Atlanta vs Boston graphic and got it wrong. The SB 51 win is the 36th championship for Boston among the 4 major sports. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_in_Boston
Haha, Goodell got the shit booed out of him. :-D
Hell I find it amusing Detroit ranks 5th with 22 and somehow the Lions have contributed 4 despite not winning since 1957. That is kind of amazing in retrospect the Braves only one World Series. That was pretty funny when Goodell got booed. :-D
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 10:44:16 PM
At minimum in the playoffs both teams ought to get a possession. There isn't any reason why the length of the overtime should matter in a post season game. At least with this game it was pretty clear that the OT rules didn't hose the other team. Atlanta could have won this game with a stop on any of those drives or those two point conversions and it never would have gotten to OT.
Or perhaps not trying to throw the ball while in FG range up 8 with about 3 minutes left. The sack and then holding call killed them.
Quote from: Buck87 on February 05, 2017, 10:52:53 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 10:44:16 PM
At minimum in the playoffs both teams ought to get a possession. There isn't any reason why the length of the overtime should matter in a post season game. At least with this game it was pretty clear that the OT rules didn't hose the other team. Atlanta could have won this game with a stop on any of those drives or those two point conversions and it never would have gotten to OT.
Or perhaps not trying to throw the ball while in FG range up 8 with about 3 minutes left. The sack and then holding call killed them.
True, running the ball seems to be lost art these days.
I congratulated my Buffalo Bills fan friend upon the occasion of his relinquishing the seat on the Porcelain Throne in the Hall of Ignominy, where his butt had been planted for the last quarter-century.
Sherman's March to the Sea, 1996 Olympics, and this...Atlanta just can't seem to catch a break
Goddamn it, Atlanta! You weren't supposed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory! :banghead:
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Catch of the year, first OT SB ever. Damn that was a nice one :clap: :clap: :clap:
Greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. First overtime in Super Bowl history. Most yards passing by a QB in Super Bowl history. Heck, the game even played out like Trump's win since he was farther down in the October polls than any POTUS winner ever has been, which is appropriate considering he is friends with Kraft, Belichick and Brady. Now Brady gets the record for most Super Bowl wins as a QB and most Super Bowl MVP awards. NE covered the spread but it was done with the most improbable game flow I have ever seen in a Super Bowl.
Rick
Overtime is so driven by the coin toss - if Atlanta won it, might it have been a different story??
Then again, Atlanta came out at half-time very tired from the get go. What were they doing / drinking while Gaga was on?
Dang it. I decided to pull a FC Barcelona and not congratulate the Patriots.
Quote from: english si on February 06, 2017, 04:05:31 AM
Overtime is so driven by the coin toss - if Atlanta won it, might it have been a different story??
Then again, Atlanta came out at half-time very tired from the get go. What were they doing / drinking while Gaga was on?
Atlanta looked gassed more and more as the 2nd half progressed. Should have better used their time outs, but did have to burn one with the challenge. The sack and ensuing penalty pushing them out of FG range did them in.
Quote from: Alex on February 06, 2017, 07:56:14 AM
Quote from: english si on February 06, 2017, 04:05:31 AM
Overtime is so driven by the coin toss - if Atlanta won it, might it have been a different story??
Then again, Atlanta came out at half-time very tired from the get go. What were they doing / drinking while Gaga was on?
Atlanta looked gassed more and more as the 2nd half progressed. Should have better used their time outs, but did have to burn one with the challenge. The sack and ensuing penalty pushing them out of FG range did them in.
Atlanta couldn't stay on the field with their offense it absolutely was a big problem as the game progressed:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup?gameId=400927752
New England controlled the ball for two thirds of the game, Atlanta had the ball for not even 21 minutes. Tom Brady threw 62 passes to Matt Ryan's 23, New England had 37 1st down to the Falcons 17. Basically Atlanta did everything they had to do up until the score was 28-3, they literally had all the breaks and capitalized at every turn. From that point on they couldn't make a single stop, they couldn't stay on the field, and they couldn't stay in scoring position...literally they did nothing and New England completely capitalized on every last opportunity they were given. I guess that's what really is amazing about the game last night, it is rare you see such a reversal but the numbers in the box score explain why it happened.
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/super-bowl-li-ratings-patriots-falcons-24-1201978629/
Ratings for Super Bowl LI are out.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 06, 2017, 09:22:24 AM
Quote from: Alex on February 06, 2017, 07:56:14 AM
Quote from: english si on February 06, 2017, 04:05:31 AM
Overtime is so driven by the coin toss - if Atlanta won it, might it have been a different story??
Then again, Atlanta came out at half-time very tired from the get go. What were they doing / drinking while Gaga was on?
Atlanta looked gassed more and more as the 2nd half progressed. Should have better used their time outs, but did have to burn one with the challenge. The sack and ensuing penalty pushing them out of FG range did them in.
Atlanta couldn't stay on the field with their offense it absolutely was a big problem as the game progressed:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup?gameId=400927752
New England controlled the ball for two thirds of the game, Atlanta had the ball for not even 21 minutes. Tom Brady threw 62 passes to Matt Ryan's 23, New England had 37 1st down to the Falcons 17. Basically Atlanta did everything they had to do up until the score was 28-3, they literally had all the breaks and capitalized at every turn. From that point on they couldn't make a single stop, they couldn't stay on the field, and they couldn't stay in scoring position...literally they did nothing and New England completely capitalized on every last opportunity they were given. I guess that's what really is amazing about the game last night, it is rare you see such a reversal but the numbers in the box score explain why it happened.
Atlanta really blew it. They scored no points after going up 28-3 if they had just gotten one field goal they likely would have won. When Ryan took the sack instead of throwing it away I believe that was the big play that gave the game away.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 05, 2017, 08:20:23 PM
I just want to see a good game, not a rehash of almost every 80s and 90s Super Bowl blow out.
Yeah, I know the Super Bowl used to have that reputation for producing mostly clunker games. Those of us that are younger have been spoiled, since over the past 20 years the Super Bowls have almost all been good games, with about half of them coming down to the wire, and only a small few that were blowouts (SEA/DEN, TB/OAK, BAL/NYG)
I saw a Downfall parody clip about Super Bowl LI. That's never gets old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVgoWisxx5M