California seems to almost always use a sign that puts County Line under the county name. While other states, like Oregon, seem to use "Entering _____ ."
I think some states too (can't recall which ones....Wisconsin comes to mind) just use "_______ Co."
Does your state use one type of signing language to denote a county line, or is it a mixed bag?
Massachusetts (with rare exceptions) does not do either. County lines are not even signed.
Virginia seems to prefer
ENTER
<county or city name>
LEAVE
<county or city name>
Example on I-395 at the border between Arlington County and the City of Alexandria here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8352238,-77.0964981,3a,15y,283.39h,88.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2a-pXDqeoVMseHGliTFgoA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Somtimes the sign will read
ENTER (or ENTERING)
<county or city name>
Especially when entering Virginia from an adjoining state.
Maryland often just posts the name of the county and not much more. Sometimes the county seal and
WELCOME TO
<county name>
Pennsylvania is actually pretty good at this:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/998bd50dc96babb311e1c0fc1eb2b756.jpg)
They seem to vary in Ontario. Some of them are simple blue signs that say "County ___", while others are more unique to the specific county.
Oxford County sign on the 401
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWKUzMCL.jpg&hash=45b2bbebd9684575469a26491f093b639bcb4d3a)
Region of Waterloo sign near New Hamburg (I really should have a photo of this, but I don't)
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.3571484,-80.7359565,3a,15y,24.34h,89.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa4r0tYQjOkqphNdKp5P4tQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.3571484,-80.7359565,3a,15y,24.34h,89.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa4r0tYQjOkqphNdKp5P4tQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Halton Region on old Hwy 25
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN1Kwx5K.jpg&hash=7d5ce2d7cd61161ad0ddf465fe2dd73a99723f45)
Blurry photo for Renfrew County on Hwy 60
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5weloCo.jpg&hash=780263a8fc5b11ab9a13fb9cd2b31e5038d28661)
Wellington County on the 401
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4223079,-80.2792665,3a,15y,106.01h,92.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS67H-VfRatEunKSupLIY5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4223079,-80.2792665,3a,15y,106.01h,92.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS67H-VfRatEunKSupLIY5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: 1 on May 01, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Massachusetts (with rare exceptions) does not do either. County lines are not even signed.
Some of the bookleaf townline signs include the county name underneath the city/city name if such crosses a county line; though MassDOT isn't always consistent.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easton.ma.us%2Fsliderimage%2FEaston%2520Property%2520Locator.jpg&hash=bdd11b1f35b3c3f494f4e70e686b5eb8aed2f456)
I've noticed a few states where you don't see any mention of a county at the state line.
Examples:
I-5 going into Washington state. No mention of Clark County.
I-5 going south into Oregon, no mention on Multnomah County.
I-15 entering Nevada. No mention of Clark County.
I-15 entering Utah. No mention on Washington County.
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Let's just say that Indiana is consistently inconsistent. Here are two signs for motorists entering Elkhart County from St. Joseph County.
On the Indiana Toll Road:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F2v8ffr8.png&hash=9db0ea6abfbae7338820a04e1c02311c23d67ad5)
On SR-933:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F2uf3915.png&hash=3aa6b1492281e5b18c42dc24a3ff4836a1e1cc40)
Notice that one sign lists the "enter" county first, while the other lists the "leave" county first. One shows just the names of the counties while the other adds the "Co."
As cabiness states, many signs on the interstates show just the name of the county the driver is entering.
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 01, 2017, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 01, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Massachusetts (with rare exceptions) does not do either. County lines are not even signed.
Some of the bookleaf townline signs include the county name underneath the city/city name if such crosses a county line; though MassDOT isn't always consistent.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easton.ma.us%2Fsliderimage%2FEaston%2520Property%2520Locator.jpg&hash=bdd11b1f35b3c3f494f4e70e686b5eb8aed2f456)
I thought the Hampden/Hampshire line was still signed on I-91.
Texas changed its boundary styles to
Nameofcounty
County Line
Similar to city limits, except the new city limit signs no longer show population.
In both Minnesota (https://i.imgur.com/AJj9Kr9.jpg) and Iowa (https://i.imgur.com/bdaOnok.jpg), they're simply signed as "______ County." Only difference is that Minnesota uses mixed case (on both name and "County"), while Iowa uses all caps. There are a few special exceptions, like this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1162716,-93.4323074,3a,63.4y,201.3h,80.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-Fa0AHIY0I6mon8j3TzbXA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664) where MN-47 runs along the county line for quite a distance. (Sorry it's hard to read, but it's the best I could do–the sign reads "Kanabec County" with a left arrow on top and "Mille Lacs County" with a right arrow on the bottom.)
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 01, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
I think some states too (can't recall which ones....Wisconsin comes to mind) just use "_______ Co."
New York does this. Connecticut doesn't sign county lines at all.
Quote from: dgolub on May 01, 2017, 06:42:48 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 01, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
I think some states too (can't recall which ones....Wisconsin comes to mind) just use "_______ Co."
New York does this. Connecticut doesn't sign county lines at all.
Ditto for Arkansas and Oklahoma.
Ohio uses the same type of county line signage as Virginia:
ENTER
<county or city name>
LEAVE
<county or city name>
West Virginia just posts "{name} County" signs.
Alaska, like WV, just posts signs where you enter a borough or equivalent unit, unless you're entering from Canada in which case there is no borough sign. The only indication you're leaving a borough is if you see another borough's sign at the border. Since the vast Unorganized Borough (areas not yet covered by any county-type government) has no entrance signs, you'd need to look in your rearview mirror to spot the entrance sign for the borough you just left.
Hawaii has only one land boundary between counties, between Maui and Kalawao Counties. The latter has the infamous "unwelcome" signs (http://www.hawaiihighways.com/photos-Kalawao.htm) (scroll down the page), threatening criminal penalties if you enter without a state permit. There are no signs in the other direction, welcoming you to Maui County.
Quote from: Rothman on May 01, 2017, 05:39:37 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 01, 2017, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 01, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Massachusetts (with rare exceptions) does not do either. County lines are not even signed.
Some of the bookleaf townline signs include the county name underneath the city/city name if such crosses a county line; though MassDOT isn't always consistent.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easton.ma.us%2Fsliderimage%2FEaston%2520Property%2520Locator.jpg&hash=bdd11b1f35b3c3f494f4e70e686b5eb8aed2f456)
I thought the Hampden/Hampshire line was still signed on I-91.
It is (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2844345,-72.6155134,3a,75y,298.8h,71.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siewRxzGfmVO261y-qOaqQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1).
My
inconsistency comment was primarily directed towards the MA-exclusive bookleaf townline signs posted on smaller roads &
non-limited-access highways.
Along major highways in MA, per the above-posted example along I-91; county-line crossings are marked
within supplemental the
ENTERING XXXXXXX LGS.
Quote from: 1 on May 01, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Massachusetts (with rare exceptions) does not do either. County lines are not even signed.
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 01, 2017, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 01, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Massachusetts (with rare exceptions) does not do either. County lines are not even signed.
Some of the bookleaf townline signs include the county name underneath the city/city name if such crosses a county line; though MassDOT isn't always consistent.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easton.ma.us%2Fsliderimage%2FEaston%2520Property%2520Locator.jpg&hash=bdd11b1f35b3c3f494f4e70e686b5eb8aed2f456)
Per current MassDOT practice, new bookleaf town line signs are now supposed to include the county name if the boundary is at a county line. As PHLBOS noted, applicable LGS boundary signs on Interstates and freeways are formatted as "ENTERING Xxxxxx (horizontal divider) Yyyyyy County"
Years ago, Kentucky posted black-on-white "Enter XXX County, Leave YYY County." The last remaining one I can remember was at the Estill/Jackson county line on KY 89.
Now Kentucky just uses a white-on-green sign that lists the name of the county.
West Virginia does the same.
A lot of NC counties seem to supplement the standard sign with a non-MUTCD "welcome to blah, blah blah". I assume these are put up by the county and not the state.
Maine simply uses "________ COUNTY LINE" signs underneath of their town line signs whenever one crosses into a new county. Nowadays, the county name is mixed-case, but here's an older all-caps version.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8473/8140254605_d16b33bfbb_z.jpg)
Their older black and white signs were cooler though...
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5321/7376253614_33bb041934_z.jpg)
New Jersey doesn't mandate a specific design, but:
The Garden State Parkway uses blue pentagons that say "entering X county" like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6070454,-74.3131667,3a,75y,31.86h,73.93t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPs4EiBZQeQ95SGT4ECtomA!2e0!5s20161001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Elsewhere counties are free to sign their lines any way they want, and most don't bother in most places, but when they do, it's usually "welcome to" or just county name and slogan. This is just an example:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-pNVLFHP2ydU%2FVkP6e_E8gtI%2FAAAAAAAAK2Y%2F0RFvhcEFyBM%2Fs1600%2FAtlantic%252BCounty%252BNJ%252B2015%252BWBlog.jpg&hash=15855e2d5df04878af7f5f2da7d833b00f625371)
Quote from: 7/8 on May 01, 2017, 04:29:45 PM
They seem to vary in Ontario. Some of them are simple blue signs that say "County ___", while others are more unique to the specific county.
Oxford County sign on the 401
Region of Waterloo sign near New Hamburg (I really should have a photo of this, but I don't)
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.3571484,-80.7359565,3a,15y,24.34h,89.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa4r0tYQjOkqphNdKp5P4tQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.3571484,-80.7359565,3a,15y,24.34h,89.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa4r0tYQjOkqphNdKp5P4tQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Halton Region on old Hwy 25
Blurry photo for Renfrew County on Hwy 60
Wellington County on the 401
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4223079,-80.2792665,3a,15y,106.01h,92.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS67H-VfRatEunKSupLIY5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4223079,-80.2792665,3a,15y,106.01h,92.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS67H-VfRatEunKSupLIY5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Oxford, Halton, and Renfrew are the old standard. New standard uses mixed case:
https://goo.gl/maps/6rZ7zNZmzPt
Standard signs may include "enhanced" versions with a slogan or such:
https://goo.gl/maps/oF3tBiekAZP2
The Waterloo one is a locally-produced sign that the county uses for their own roads. The Wellington County one is a decorative municipal display, ie, a glorified billboard.
In Georgia, it's usually just the name of the county being entered, like so:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2F2017%2Fga_county_example.png&hash=9096e7d34840349884f6c8a41880205e6822d637)
In middle Georgia, we have more elaborate signs for Baldwin, Putnam and Greene Counties, welcoming you to Georgia's Lake Country. :wave:
Quote from: Road Hog on May 01, 2017, 06:46:44 PM
Quote from: dgolub on May 01, 2017, 06:42:48 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 01, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
I think some states too (can't recall which ones....Wisconsin comes to mind) just use "_______ Co."
New York does this. Connecticut doesn't sign county lines at all.
Ditto for Arkansas and Oklahoma.
Not true for Oklahoma. County lines are not usually signed at state lines, but we do have small one-line signs reading, e.g. "ADAIR CO." on surface roads and two-line "Cleveland/County" signs on freeways (unlike the Georgia example above, "County" appears in the same font size and capitalization as the county name). OTA sometimes omits county lines on its highways, which is frustrating.
Kansas uses the same "Chase/COUNTY LINE" style as TX and CA.
Missouri uses "ENTERING/Greene/COUNTY". (Missouri also has the unusual convention of placing "CITY LIMITS"
above the city name; "CITY LIMITS/Springfield".)
Nevada's typical county border signage on NDOT-maintained roadways (white-on-green rectangle):
Clark
COUNTY LINE
Town/City limit signs are similarly styled, but list elevation instead of denoting a town/city line.
Las Vegas
ELEV 2165
The one consistent exception is Carson City, which is a consolidated city-county. Carson City is signed as a county, and lists "State Capital" instead of "County Line", and does not indicate elevation, even near the actual city.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 01, 2017, 04:34:55 PM
I've noticed a few states where you don't see any mention of a county at the state line.
Examples:
I-15 entering Nevada. No mention of Clark County.
County line signs are usually posted below or next to the state welcome sign. The sign was probably just missing sign when you happened to go through. Street view shows the county line sign on I-15 north at Primm/CA line in July 2016 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6069338,-115.3911647,3a,31.6y,57.52h,88.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOn7MJsNccq2KhSbqzZH7_w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and I-15 south at Mesquite/AZ line in Dec 2016 (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.817973,-114.049853,3a,15y,287.42h,86.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stLhfeMC_eMlKp52gZH0TlQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (albeit non-standard in design, with a bonus uncommon "Nevada state line" sign similarly styled but surprisingly in Clearview font :hmm:).
Florida uses ENTERING followed by Mixed Case County name and then all caps COUNTY..
NYSDOT just uses the county name like Georgia, except all mixed-case nowadays. As far as local jurisdictions, some counties sign it the same way (i.e. Warren County (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3531941,-73.603525,3a,44.6y,287.81h,85.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8kx2xwQ_PFCvE59f608X_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), others use the "entering" sign (i.e. Washington County (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3778454,-73.6083618,3a,49.4y,132.58h,75.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUVJzR7sGnyQuWJecK2Pn3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). In several places, I have seen the Vermont-style sign parallel to the road in lieu of or in addition to other signage. "Leaving -" signage is rare, but Warren County does post it on roads they maintain.
Vermont visibly signs county lines on expressways, putting the county name under the town name (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Windham+County,+VT/@43.2335955,-72.4481143,3a,27.1y,223.57h,80.65t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKwSAVBasoHTeCFgqopvw5Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKwSAVBasoHTeCFgqopvw5Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D111.57449%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e0fe1a8d78e8fd:0x88cfa2a2b64d161e!8m2!3d43.0151325!4d-72.8042797) similar to Maine. Surface roads get the typical "parallel sign" treatment (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8718144,-72.9254582,3a,26.7y,234.6h,84.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC8YxxGpcB8O91pbUAvQaIg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Quote from: 1 on May 01, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Massachusetts (with rare exceptions) does not do either. County lines are not even signed.
Do counties even matter in Massachusetts?
Quote from: Bitmapped on May 01, 2017, 06:49:00 PM
Ohio uses the same type of county line signage as Virginia:
ENTER
<county or city name>
LEAVE
<county or city name>
On non-freeways, that is the standard for ODOT. On freeway-grade roads (including expressway type ones like US 30 or OH 11 dual carriageways), they use
ENTERING
Summit
County
With the ENTERING in small caps.
The Ohio Turnpike has fallen into line with the ODOT standard in the past decade, but before that, the Turnpike county line signs were in a format of
Summit
CO LINE
The old-style Turnpike median crossover signage changed around the same time as well, to the No U-Turn/Authorized and Emergency Vehicles Only combo. It was a larger rectangular sign with a yellow background before.
This is what a county line sign looks like along a Michigan Interstate highway:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.onlyinyourstate.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F10%2FCheboygan-700x525.jpg&hash=9fcf0ff1eeba18790bd3ec267ab8b865ecbf7ec7)
This is the normal sign on a Michigan State Highway and U.S Highway:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffamily.cameraontheroad.com%2Fpics%2Fwest%2Flenaweecountysign.jpg&hash=40c31792d8b064fb9b0c686172a8c960fc879999)
Quote from: SP Cook on May 02, 2017, 10:57:12 AM
A lot of NC counties seem to supplement the standard sign with a non-MUTCD "welcome to blah, blah blah". I assume these are put up by the county and not the state.
Yes and no. IIRC, a county can usually request/design a county sign, but the design has to be submitted to NCDOT, who has the final say-so. If NCDOT goes along with it, they will install the sign and get reimbursed by the county. If the county does not request a custom sign, NCDOT will just put up signs with nothing but the name of the county on them, such as those found on I-795 at the Wayne/Wilson county line.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on May 01, 2017, 04:07:14 PM
Virginia seems to prefer
ENTER
<county or city name>
LEAVE
<county or city name>
North Carolina has a few of those as well. Three spots that I know of is the Wayne/Johnston County line on US-70 (in addition to the big signs), the Wayne/Wilson county line on US-117, and the Caswell/Orange county line on NC-86. There may be others, but those are the only ones I paid any attention to.
Quote from: LM117 on August 17, 2017, 05:09:36 AM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on May 01, 2017, 04:07:14 PM
Virginia seems to prefer
ENTER
<county or city name>
LEAVE
<county or city name>
North Carolina has a few of those as well. Three spots that I know of is the Wayne/Johnston County line on US-70 (in addition to the big signs), the Wayne/Wilson county line on US-117, and the Caswell/Orange county line on NC-86. There may be others, but those are the only ones I paid any attention to.
North Carolina is full of this style county line sign. Pretty much any 2-lane primary route has them. Divided Highways, Expressways, etc. tend to go with the single county name signs (US 264 freeway east of Wilson has the dual signage, though). Secondary routes tend to have the single county name sign.
Quote from: Road Hog on May 01, 2017, 06:29:24 PM
Texas changed its boundary styles to
Nameofcounty
County Line
Similar to city limits, except the new city limit signs no longer show population.
There are a few exceptions, mainly like
ENTERING
XXXXXX (the name is usually in bigger letters)
COUNTY
but are more often seen lately as what Road Hog described. At least TX doesn't have the triangular-obelisk style black-on-whites (or the later 'flattened' version) anymore that weren't exactly the easiest to read.
In Utah, it's usually just "XXX County". The older signs (pre-2007 or so) are all caps, the newer ones are mixed case.
County lines are almost always signed on state highways including interstates, but not always at the state line.
While counties aren't signed, towns are signed like this
___________
| |
| Farmington |
| Town Line |
|___________|
|Next 3 Exits |
| |
|___________|
|___________|
|| ||
|| ||
|| ||
Not good, but it's worth a try
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
Illinois just uses a simple sign showing the new county name. Because of the shift in MUTCD standards, they have recently switched from all-caps to mixed case. IDOT puts them up whenever one of their roads crosses a county line. Pretty standard. Ohio uses "ENTERING/LEAVING" signs which are neat.
There was a 1974 movie titled "Macon County Line". Not sure if that reflected the real-life Georgia signage, though.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071788/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071788/)
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
How cheap can you get???
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 23, 2017, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
How cheap can you get???
If I have a chance, I'll take a photo of an area of I-69 where you see the sign for Warrick County, and then about 100' away a sign for Vanderburgh County, where the road is in Vanderburgh, then clips Warrick, and back to Vanderburgh again. The other side of the road doesn't change. This is also the stretch of road where we have two ditches that are signed. Indiana did need to drop some of these signing requirements, but perhaps not all.
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
I agree. I think that's stupid, especially because Google maps doesn't even show county lines. Or time zones. Also, what if you're driving by yourself? Surely they don't
want you to look at your phone while driving...
PTC used to use blue on white small rectangular signs for the PA Turnpike county lines while PennDOT on the interstates would use traditional white on green all using the phrase "COUNTY LINE."
I believe local roads signed like the Turnpike.
Virginia always use to have both entering and leaving and if a city was involved it would say Entering City of X or leaving City of X.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 23, 2017, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
How cheap can you get???
Honestly, county lines are not that important in most places. Certainly outside of a few places people don't know or care which county a city is in. For that matter, on a freeway, it's beside the point what city you're in unless it's a big one with multiple exits. Otherwise, just signing them on exit BGS's should be enough. State lines are the only things a freeway should really sign on the roadway itself.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 22, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Illinois just uses a simple sign showing the new county name. Because of the shift in MUTCD standards, they have recently switched from all-caps to mixed case. IDOT puts them up whenever one of their roads crosses a county line. Pretty standard. Ohio uses "ENTERING/LEAVING" signs which are neat.
A fine Ohio example
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4343/36911485231_63d6cc06cb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YeK1zM)
IMG_0825 (https://flic.kr/p/YeK1zM) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 05, 2017, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 01, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
Massachusetts (with rare exceptions) does not do either. County lines are not even signed.
Do counties even matter in Massachusetts?
Some counties still have sheriffs and some still have county governments.
Quote from: bzakharin on August 24, 2017, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 23, 2017, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
How cheap can you get???
Honestly, county lines are not that important in most places. Certainly outside of a few places people don't know or care which county a city is in. For that matter, on a freeway, it's beside the point what city you're in unless it's a big one with multiple exits. Otherwise, just signing them on exit BGS's should be enough. State lines are the only things a freeway should really sign on the roadway itself.
Neither are the names of rivers, mountain passes, milemarkers, or "Spc. Maj. Gen. Lt. Sgt. Adm. Trooper Stopp N. de Nameodelaw Memorial Highway", and yet there's some degree of utility for all of them to the point that the MUTCD includes them (well, maybe not the last one). Road signs are not posted to get an ROI. Not posting county lines is just being cheap.
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 05, 2017, 08:26:16 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on August 24, 2017, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 23, 2017, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
How cheap can you get???
Honestly, county lines are not that important in most places. Certainly outside of a few places people don't know or care which county a city is in. For that matter, on a freeway, it's beside the point what city you're in unless it's a big one with multiple exits. Otherwise, just signing them on exit BGS's should be enough. State lines are the only things a freeway should really sign on the roadway itself.
Neither are the names of rivers, mountain passes, milemarkers, or "Spc. Maj. Gen. Lt. Sgt. Adm. Trooper Stopp N. de Nameodelaw Memorial Highway", and yet there's some degree of utility for all of them to the point that the MUTCD includes them (well, maybe not the last one). Road signs are not posted to get an ROI. Not posting county lines is just being cheap.
And I wouldn't post any of them either. Except mile markers. Those are actually extremely important for a wide variety of reasons, from knowing how much you have traveled on a roadway to how much is left to travel (if exits are mile-based) to the best and most precise location ID in case of an emergency. Those other things are nice to have at best and useless at worst.
Quote from: bzakharin on September 07, 2017, 01:50:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 05, 2017, 08:26:16 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on August 24, 2017, 11:04:17 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 23, 2017, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
How cheap can you get???
Honestly, county lines are not that important in most places. Certainly outside of a few places people don't know or care which county a city is in. For that matter, on a freeway, it's beside the point what city you're in unless it's a big one with multiple exits. Otherwise, just signing them on exit BGS's should be enough. State lines are the only things a freeway should really sign on the roadway itself.
Neither are the names of rivers, mountain passes, milemarkers, or "Spc. Maj. Gen. Lt. Sgt. Adm. Trooper Stopp N. de Nameodelaw Memorial Highway", and yet there's some degree of utility for all of them to the point that the MUTCD includes them (well, maybe not the last one). Road signs are not posted to get an ROI. Not posting county lines is just being cheap.
And I wouldn't post any of them either. Except mile markers. Those are actually extremely important for a wide variety of reasons, from knowing how much you have traveled on a roadway to how much is left to travel (if exits are mile-based) to the best and most precise location ID in case of an emergency. Those other things are nice to have at best and useless at worst.
County lines, rivers, and mountain passes are also helpful in emergencies, though. And "useless" goes too far, since these geographical features often give drivers a sense of where they are and where they're going.
Colorado's default is just a simple 2-line white-on-green sign that says " XXX COUNTY ".
https://www.aaroads.com/west/colorado001/co-009_sb_hoosier_pass_03.jpg
That being said, not all county lines are signed (CoughcoughMetroDenverCoughCough).
Where county lines are signed, many counties along major routes create their own "ENTERING/WELCOME TO XXX COUNTY" signs which can range from a smaller sign:
http://www.gjsentinel.com/images/photos/imgkit_sized/070916_1a_signs_600x400.jpg
or
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/130/417911083_44e42c27d0_b.jpg
to a huge wooden roadside structure that rival the "WELCOME TO COLORFUL COLORADO" signs at the border:
http://www.coloradoinfo.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery/public/gallery/CountySign_July%20%281%29.JPG?itok=fYxA7SAP.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3492298,-74.4793757,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spMPIG6sitVRUmoT1_qhOhg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Not by far a county, but South Brunswick in NJ is a municipality like many in the North-East that play the same role in government that counties do elsewhere. Anyway, this sign is very unique for an entering sign, pointing out that "You" are entering.
Arkansas designates a county line by name. Now, our road naming is a whole other thread! :bigass:
Arizona, traditional style is somewhat small:
ENTERING
Xxxxxxxxx
COUNTY
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4038/4385206108_eae2a586f1_b.jpg)
Newer ones are significantly larger with the bottom two lines in mixed case:
ENTERING
Xxxxxxxxx
County
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3831/13874453884_476df2e775_b.jpg)
Quote from: roadiejay on September 14, 2017, 11:14:30 PM
Newer ones are significantly larger with the bottom two lines in mixed case:
ENTERING
Xxxxxxxxx
County
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3831/13874453884_476df2e775_b.jpg)
These are pretty much straight from the Ohio style book for limited access roads and other dual carriageways, although they are always BGS style (previous generation button copy, now reflective copy, were clearview but now not, but always with ribs and with breakaway supports) but Arizona's layout is completely identical.
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on September 14, 2017, 10:25:31 PM
Arkansas designates a county line by name. Now, our road naming is a whole other thread! :bigass:
Arkansas is short and sweet, all on one line: "INDEPENDENCE CO."
I've seen one exception, at the county line on I-30 at Alexander either way:
PULASKI
COUNTYand
SALINE
COUNTY
I'll do Tennessee, since no one else has and I used to live there. Basically interstate and non interstates are signed the same way, which a green sign that says "XXX CO", however, the interstate sign uses a different variant of the FHWA font than the non interstate does (I'm not familiar enough with the fonts to tell the difference).
Colorado is a mixed bag.
Some signs are just white on green which said _________ COUNTY.
Other Counties may create their own (Welcome to) _____________ County signs of various colors, styles and designs.
Some county lines are not even identified on CDOT roads. Driving through the Denver metro area, you may go through 4 and 5 counties and not even know it.
Wisconsin just has small green signs that say "Dane Co" or whatever county it is. Always abbreviated.
In Michigan, on non-freeways, it's a smaller green sign that says "ENTER" followed by the county name on separate lines. The size of the text for the name of the county is a bit larger than the words "enter" or "county". It's frequently accompanied by a similar sign on the same pole for the township being entered as well, and those signs would have a smaller "ZONED" at the bottom if appropriate.
On freeways, a larger green sign bearing just the name of the county is used.
Lincoln Parish, when entering or leaving the parish:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/736/20393359290_4e9aa4c3d5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/x56idW)Pylant Rd. becomes Brothers Rd. at Lincoln/Union line. (https://flic.kr/p/x56idW) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
I don't have a picture of ENTER for some reason. Shame on me.
ENTER x PARISH on non-freeway state and US routes:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1846/43783486704_5e6b999615.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29GZPcN)DOTD sign on Old Arcadia Rd. at Webster/Claiborne Parish line. (https://flic.kr/p/29GZPcN) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Strangely, I found this on a parish road.
On the interstates, it's just a simple x PARISH sign (I have no pic. Sorry.)
Quote from: cjk374 on August 04, 2019, 12:14:38 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/736/20393359290_4e9aa4c3d5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/x56idW)Pylant Rd. becomes Brothers Rd. at Lincoln/Union line. (https://flic.kr/p/x56idW) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
That reminds me of the "Go Children Slow" signs in Massachusetts.
May as well post this here, NJ state and country welcome signs. None of it is my work except finding them and putting them together.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/55623dbaf6e92e31b3f873babafa7ac2.jpg)
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Quote from: theline on May 01, 2017, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Let's just say that Indiana is consistently inconsistent. Here are two signs for motorists entering Elkhart County from St. Joseph County.
On the Indiana Toll Road:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F2v8ffr8.png&hash=9db0ea6abfbae7338820a04e1c02311c23d67ad5)
On SR-933:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F2uf3915.png&hash=3aa6b1492281e5b18c42dc24a3ff4836a1e1cc40)
Notice that one sign lists the "enter" county first, while the other lists the "leave" county first. One shows just the names of the counties while the other adds the "Co."
As cabiness states, many signs on the interstates show just the name of the county the driver is entering.
Indiana has three sets of standards for signing highways at County Lines; the Indiana Toll Road (inconsistent), the Interstate System (MUTCD sign I2, listing only the name of the county one is entering), and for US/State Roads (IN MUTCD sign I-Y12, showing both the "leaving" and "entering" county); hence the variations depicted here. The Toll Road seems to have NO standards whatsoever since it was privatized (or "pirateized" as some maintain). They even improperly use a County
Route 17 shield on some of the BGS signs at/approaching the interchange with County
Road 17 east of Elkhart. Elkhart County has authorized
NO County Routes. The number there is part of the highway NAME, not a route designation.
Quote from: bzakharin on August 04, 2019, 10:04:20 AM
May as well post this here, NJ state and country welcome signs. None of it is my work except finding them and putting them together.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/55623dbaf6e92e31b3f873babafa7ac2.jpg)
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I guess the officials in Monmouth & Ocean counties want to express that there is either no room for selfish people in their area (or no room for people who cooperate with others) since they state they are the "NO. I" place to live. Either that, or the have a Horta choosing their fonts ("NO KILL I"). :bigass:
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 23, 2017, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
How cheap can you get???
INDOT is notorious for doing things as cheaply as possible, even if it costs more in the long run. Yes, they are beginning to phase out I2 signs on Interstates and other roads, which is a shame and adds to distracted driving as people take their eyes off the road to check their f'n cell phones to determine where the heck they are. But if they name the road after a lackey politician (esp. a member of the GOP), they seem to find all the money needed to put up a huge sign with no problem whatsoever (see the signs on I-469 near Ft. Wayne).
Quote from: SSR_317 on August 04, 2019, 01:27:06 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on August 04, 2019, 10:04:20 AM
May as well post this here, NJ state and country welcome signs. None of it is my work except finding them and putting them together.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/55623dbaf6e92e31b3f873babafa7ac2.jpg)
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I guess the officials in Monmouth & Ocean counties want to express that there is either no room for selfish people in their area (or no room for people who cooperate with others) since they state they are the "NO. I" place to live. Either that, or the have a Horta choosing their fonts ("NO KILL I"). :bigass:
I'm wondering more why anyone would still care about a 1998 little league championship.
Michigan might of already been answered and I might of posted already I can't remember and don't feel like looking lol. Michigan generally uses just County under the name of the county like on I-75 it would simply say, "Wayne County" or on a state highway most of the time it will say, "Enter Saginaw County" and for the most part that's how it is in Michigan.
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 08, 2019, 09:02:31 AM
Michigan might of already been answered and I might of posted already I can't remember and don't feel like looking lol. Michigan generally uses just County under the name of the county like on I-75 it would simply say, "Wayne County" or on a state highway most of the time it will say, "Enter Saginaw County" and for the most part that's how it is in Michigan.
Pro tip: When you're in a thread, simply type something in the search bar up at the top, then click [Search]. For example, you can very easily search this thread for "Michigan".
The only "search" function that I can see takes me to a new page and searches the entire forum.
Quote from: webny99 on August 08, 2019, 01:25:07 PM
The only "search" function that I can see takes me to a new page and searches the entire forum.
Searching while in a thread searches the thread itself; searching anywhere else searches the entire forum.
Quote from: 1 on August 08, 2019, 01:28:24 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 08, 2019, 01:25:07 PM
The only "search" function that I can see takes me to a new page and searches the entire forum.
Searching while in a thread searches the thread itself; searching anywhere else searches the entire forum.
What I'm saying is that it's is not possible to search while in a thread. I have to go to the search page, which then searches the entire forum.
(Edit: fixed typo and reworded for clarity)
Quote from: kphoger on August 08, 2019, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 08, 2019, 09:02:31 AM
Michigan might of already been answered and I might of posted already I can't remember and don't feel like looking lol. Michigan generally uses just County under the name of the county like on I-75 it would simply say, "Wayne County" or on a state highway most of the time it will say, "Enter Saginaw County" and for the most part that's how it is in Michigan.
Pro tip: When you're in a thread, simply type something in the search bar up at the top, then click [Search]. For example, you can very easily search this thread for "Michigan".
Quote from: webny99 on August 08, 2019, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 08, 2019, 01:28:24 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 08, 2019, 01:25:07 PM
The only "search" function that I can see takes me to a new page and searches the entire forum.
Searching while in a thread searches the thread itself; searching anywhere else searches the entire forum.
What I'm saying is that it's is not possible to search while in a thread. I have to go to the search page, which then searches the entire forum.
(Edit: fixed typo and reworded for clarity)
Here is where I enter my search criteria
within a thread. This searches only the thread I'm in. Are you saying that box doesn't exist for you?
(https://i.imgur.com/kdBJuNN.png)
Quote from: kphoger on August 08, 2019, 04:04:38 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 08, 2019, 01:31:00 PM
What I'm saying is that it's is not possible to search while in a thread. I have to go to the search page, which then searches the entire forum.
Here is where I enter my search criteria within a thread. This searches only the thread I'm in. Are you saying that box doesn't exist for you?
Aha! I had that whole top bar permanently minimized. I can see it now. Good to know!
I've seen both, though County line seems to be more common in rural areas, whereas entering tends to be by urban centers.
Quote from: US 89 on August 23, 2017, 08:41:42 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
I agree. I think that's stupid, especially because Google maps doesn't even show county lines. Or time zones. Also, what if you're driving by yourself? Surely they don't want you to look at your phone while driving...
Along I-65 in Indiana (one of the boringest drives you can take), all counties are signed, but the change in time zone is not. Only the change of the hour on your mobile phone or connected car provide a hint that you've just crossed the Eastern/Central time zone boundary. Indiana is infamous for being horrible about this; counties periodically change which zone they're in, they used to be a mish-mash of counties that did and did not observe DST (although no longer) and time zone boundaries are never signed -
except for the crossing on the Indiana Toll Road.
This one is pretty typical in Wisconsin: ___ Co. Even on freeways, it's basically an upgauged version of the same.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6703325,-88.0516063,3a,75y,37.63h,69.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN5IIKRvoaSdFJFO9yfrnGw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 01, 2017, 04:11:19 PM
Pennsylvania is actually pretty good at this:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/998bd50dc96babb311e1c0fc1eb2b756.jpg)
The signs say "COUNTY LINE" on the Interstates, though.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on August 12, 2019, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: US 89 on August 23, 2017, 08:41:42 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on August 21, 2017, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 01, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
In Indiana, INDOT puts up signs on their roads. Interstates just have signs naming the county you are entering. US and State highways have signs that say Enter XXX Co Leave YYY Co. It's up to the counties as to whether or not they sign county roads.
Though they don't anymore. County lines are not signed on the new I-69, and several signs on US 24 and I-94 have been missing for years and have never been replaced. When I reported those signs being missing (along with the Central/Eastern Time Zone sign on I-94 at the MI line), they informed me that they have indeed discontinued that sort of signage due to safety and cost, as many people nowadays use their cell phones to determine what county they are in, what city they are passing through, or what time it is.
I agree. I think that's stupid, especially because Google maps doesn't even show county lines. Or time zones. Also, what if you're driving by yourself? Surely they don't want you to look at your phone while driving...
Along I-65 in Indiana (one of the boringest drives you can take), all counties are signed, but the change in time zone is not. Only the change of the hour on your mobile phone or connected car provide a hint that you've just crossed the Eastern/Central time zone boundary. Indiana is infamous for being horrible about this; counties periodically change which zone they're in, they used to be a mish-mash of counties that did and did not observe DST (although no longer) and time zone boundaries are never signed - except for the crossing on the Indiana Toll Road.
IMHO, Daylight "Shifting" Time should be abolished, worldwide. Conformists beware!
Quote from: SSR_317 on August 17, 2019, 12:45:46 PM
IMHO, Daylight "Shifting" Time should be abolished, worldwide. Conformists beware!
Actually, DST should become the new year-round standard.
In before deletion... :-D
Quote from: hbelkins on August 17, 2019, 01:48:51 PM
Quote from: SSR_317 on August 17, 2019, 12:45:46 PM
IMHO, Daylight "Shifting" Time should be abolished, worldwide. Conformists beware!
Actually, DST should become the new year-round standard.
In before deletion... :-D
The 52-page thread never got deleted.