What are the busiest 2-lane (2-way) roads in your area?
Do you agree that the days of being stuck behind someone and unable to pass are over?
I'm new here so my apologies if this thread already exists...
Fairway Road right by my house in Kitchener has gotten quite busy since the bridge across the Grand River was built a few years back. Thankfully I don't have to drive it a rush hour often, but it can get pretty backed up!
A little farther away is Highway 6 in Morriston, ON. The highway is five-lanes undivided (2 each way with a centre-turn lane) south of Puslinch, but it's still 2-lanes through the town before the 401. The AADT is pretty high, as it's the main route between Hamilton and Guelph/KW. I know they're planning to build a new bypass of the town to solve the issue.
I personally don't think the days of being stuck behind someone is over, since transportation departments don't have unlimited budgets to upgrade every 2-lane road. There's bound to be many busy 2-lane roads that need upgrading, but don't have the funds (or have space constraints).
CA 65 consistently has the most people on it in the two lane segments out in the Southern California Valley, 46 might rival it at times with the ease of the route towards the coastline. 178 gets out of hand in Lower Kern River Canyon on weeks with the crowds going to/from Lake Isabella.
Hell, the worst I used to live on was US 1 in the Florida Keys. You're almost always stuck behind a freight train of cars with a slow driver up front. Picking people off is dicey given the volumes of traffic and there are almost no passing areas south of Tavernier. I think US 93 before it was built out to an expressway between Phoenix and Boulder City was probably the only two-lane highway that could ever rival US 1 in regards to being busy on a consistent basis that I recall.
The two lane sections of US-17 in Jones County (soon to be extinct) and north of New Bern in Craven County for me.
During the summer it can be excruciating being stuck in the beach traffic, and good luck attempting to pass before the next no passing zone.
I second what Max said about US-1 in the Keys, too.I never lived there, but I had been down to Key West several times and yep, it could be brutal.
Around here, probably the 2-lane section of US-69 (NE 14th St) that still exists between Des Moines and Ankeny. Despite only being a mile from Interstate 35 it still sees some pretty heavy traffic, including a decent amount of truck traffic.
Another candidate would be IA-141 once it pares down to two lanes west of Perry. I've only ever been out to US-71 on that road but even out that far it still sees a good amount of traffic.
Back in my hometown of Cambridge, MN-95 through town always sucked, except at night. Only major east/west thoroughfare, then pair that with a railroad crossing. It was widened to four lanes (more like MnDOT repaved it and converted the shoulder to a travel lane, for at least part of it) from Emerson St to the east edge of town, but that only helped a little. The whole route through town needs widening, but because there's no extra ROW space, it'd be an expensive proposition what with several businesses and a few homes along the way that would need to be razed. There were proposals put out to convert MN-95 into a pair of one-ways using 2nd Ave S, but obviously the people living on the street weren't fans of that. I dunno what's been proposed since I left there in 2010, but obviously nothing's been done.
Quote from: ParrDa on May 08, 2017, 11:18:47 PM
What are the busiest 2-lane (2-way) roads in your area?
Do you agree that the days of being stuck behind someone and unable to pass are over?
I'm new here so my apologies if this thread already exists...
First, in California a lot of permissive passing has been eliminated. Most 2-lane roads are solid striped unless there are really good lines of sight. So, if you do get stuck behind someone, the chance of passing may be approximately "when hell freezes over". Fortunately, we also have a law requiring you to pull over into a turnout, if you can do so safely and are holing up the show.
Second, CASR-92 from I-280 to CASR-1 is frequently two lanes and can get really busy, especially on weekend. I haven't ever really tried it at commute hour.
NC 105 between US 221/321 in Boone and US 221 in Linville serves several tourist destinations, as well as a truck route for US 221. More often than not you'll get stuck behind some Floridian that doesn't know how to accelerate up hills.
NJ 47 is very busy during beach season, especially northbound on Sunday afternoons. We really need NJ 55 to be completed, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
Quote from: bzakharin on May 09, 2017, 09:29:55 AM
NJ 47 is very busy during beach season, especially northbound on Sunday afternoons. We really need NJ 55 to be completed, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
72 is another one in beach going area that can be completely miserable on weekdays, especially the closer you get to US 9.
Quote from: michravera on May 09, 2017, 05:30:04 AM
Quote from: ParrDa on May 08, 2017, 11:18:47 PM
What are the busiest 2-lane (2-way) roads in your area?
Do you agree that the days of being stuck behind someone and unable to pass are over?
I'm new here so my apologies if this thread already exists...
First, in California a lot of permissive passing has been eliminated. Most 2-lane roads are solid striped unless there are really good lines of sight. So, if you do get stuck behind someone, the chance of passing may be approximately "when hell freezes over". Fortunately, we also have a law requiring you to pull over into a turnout, if you can do so safely and are holing up the show.
Second, CASR-92 from I-280 to CASR-1 is frequently two lanes and can get really busy, especially on weekend. I haven't ever really tried it at commute hour.
Some of the others in the quasi-extended Bay Area that are pretty bad would include:
- 152 when it drops from a four-lane expressway to two lanes west of the junction with 156 to US 101. That stretch through Gilroy would probably rank among the worst or most miserable drives in the state.
- 129 since people use the easy low pass to cut through the Santa Cruz range to get to the coast. Nothing that will likely stop but you won't get anywhere fast.
- The entirety of 156 is essentially two-lanes with no passing zones with heavy truck traffic. 25 north of Hollister is similar north to US 101, but I would honestly rather take a combination of 156 and 25 to get to US 101 any day over 152.
- 68 west of Salinas to Monterey has heavy traffic with commuters everywhere.
- 9 essentially is almost always bogged down with tourist traffic or people trying to get to work down in San Jose.
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 09, 2017, 03:33:20 AM
I second what Max said about US-1 in the Keys, too.I never lived there, but I had been down to Key West several times and yep, it could be brutal.
The worst part of it is from Florida City to Key Largo on the 18 mile stretch. There is a concrete divider between the lanes and every usually goes at least 80 MPH or more to get around the boat traffic when there is actually a passing zone. FHP loves to tag people coming off Key Largo northbound at Jewfish Creek near the bridge over the Anchorage Resort. Unless I'm really early in the morning I'll generally take Card Sound Road/CR 905 since people tend to avoid it due to the toll.
Two more slogs in the Miami Area I thought about would be the entirety of FL 997 due to the farm traffic and US 41 west of FL 997 through the Tamiami Trail.
The busiest two lane road near me would have to be MO76 in Branson.
I'm pretty sure the 20,000 AADT is in a two (three) lane section.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlM3d69a.png&hash=d20372cfca23ca7af3cfb1792bcc00b001651e3f)
In Maryland it's part of MD-32 in Howard County, a road that desperately wants to be a Super-2, but does not quite make it (to the south and east of here, MD-32 is almost entirely freeway). In particular the segment between MD-108 and I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.2093227,-76.944945/39.3105619,-76.9520446/@39.2595754,-77.0380807,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0), passing Dayton and Glenelg.
AADT (2015) on this part of MD-32 is between 28,450 and 23,950.
In WV the very dangerous 12 mile gap in US 35 which will hopefully be eliminated by fall of 19 is the busiest. After that, there really are no 2-lane roads that make much sense for thru traffic.
In the little time I spent on the Big Island, HI 19 could get really busy between the Kona airport and the intersection with HI 270 (https://www.google.com/maps/@20.0227322,-155.8130029,193m/data=!3m1!1e3) in Waikui. Once we spent 10-15 minutes in a loooong line at that intersection (northbound gets a stop sign while E-W traffic has right-of-way). I usually took HI 190 instead when I could.
Yeah, US 1 from Florida City to Key Largo needs the upgrade, for safety and evacuation reasons: AADT of 25,000 with peak weekends/holidays.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
Two more slogs in the Miami Area I thought about would be the entirety of FL 997 due to the farm traffic...
One topic that hasn't had much discussion is the Krome Avenue widening (http://www.fdotmiamidade.com/krome). Didn't know about it until I flew into Miami last year. Unless you're in western Miami-Dade, it isn't exactly a high-priority corridor, but there's loads of commuter traffic and trucks that use it to connect to US 27.
Quote...and US 41 west of FL 997 through the Tamiami Trail.
Probably will never happen. The first quarter of it has elevated sections (from 2010-2013) to allow more natural water flow through the Everglades, but I don't think twinning is going to occur. If the Miccosukee give it a nod for tourism, maybe. The two-lane section through Collier County should remain intact from the Dade/Monroe County tri-point to CR 951, for its scenic quality. I don't believe that much traffic (AADT from 2200-3000) is using it as a through road to make up time, when Alligator Alley is much faster.
There's also many sections of A1A which are busy two-lanes and may never get widened. In some cases, hopefully they never will...although there's some places adjacent to major intersections (at Intracoastal Waterway crossings) which desperately need turn lanes.
^^^^
Interesting I had no idea upgrades were happening on 997 and have actually appeared to be completed in places. There was talks about an outer beltway at one point but that seemed really excessive. I always used to use 997 if I hit rush hour on Miami to get up to US 27 and I-75, the a Turnpike was always backed up to Bird Road at least.
U.S. 41 really has been relegated to a tourism corridor nowadays anyways. I don't really see the traffic ever increasing but rather just staying about what it is now into the future. When I left Florida FDOT was just beginning to build the new bridgework to improve the flow of the Everglades, got that one on my list to check out the next two weeks since I'll be out there.
Quote from: bzakharin on May 09, 2017, 09:29:55 AM
NJ 47 is very busy during beach season, especially northbound on Sunday afternoons. We really need NJ 55 to be completed, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
And 347. And 322. And 83. And 9.
Hell, we can pretty much name every state and US road in NJ with 2 lanes - they just about all qualify.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 09, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on May 09, 2017, 09:29:55 AM
NJ 47 is very busy during beach season, especially northbound on Sunday afternoons. We really need NJ 55 to be completed, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
And 347. And 322. And 83. And 9.
Hell, we can pretty much name every state and US road in NJ with 2 lanes - they just about all qualify.
Would you say that about US 40 or have I just had a run of dumb luck with the two-lane segments?
Not quite in my area, but in my state: Maryland Route 404 on the Eastern Shore. The section that goes around Denton is a four-lane divided highway, and I do believe they're working on upgrading the whole thing to a divided highway. Route 404 is busy because people use it to get to Delaware's beaches, and as an alternate to U.S. 50 to Ocean City.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2017, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 09, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on May 09, 2017, 09:29:55 AM
NJ 47 is very busy during beach season, especially northbound on Sunday afternoons. We really need NJ 55 to be completed, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
And 347. And 322. And 83. And 9.
Hell, we can pretty much name every state and US road in NJ with 2 lanes - they just about all qualify.
Would you say that about US 40 or have I just had a run of dumb luck with the two-lane segments?
Yes. Get behind a truck that's slow to start up from traffic lights and maxes out at 40 or 45 in a 50, or weekend traffic, and it's nearly impossible to find a safe area to pass.
In Washington, there are two several highways that are un-twinned but very busy (data from WashDOT Traffic Data GeoPortal):
Hwy 18 from Issaquah-Hobart Road to I-90 -- last un-twinned section of Hwy 18. AADT: 25,000
Hwy 522 from north of Paradise Lake to the Snohomish River -- twinned sections on either side of this stretch (twinning coming soon). AADT: 27-28,000
US-2 east of Snohomish -- to be twinned at some point. AADT: 27,000
Hwy 302 near Purdy (primarily the bridge) -- Several alternatives to improve traffic but no hard plan. AADT: 22,000
Quote from: epzik8 on May 09, 2017, 12:23:52 PM
Not quite in my area, but in my state: Maryland Route 404 on the Eastern Shore. The section that goes around Denton is a four-lane divided highway, and I do believe they're working on upgrading the whole thing to a divided highway. Route 404 is busy because people use it to get to Delaware's beaches, and as an alternate to U.S. 50 to Ocean City.
Not as high as the two-lane section of MD-32 in Howard County that I mentioned above, according to the 2015 Highway Location Reference. MD-404 AADT ranges from 17,070 to 21,271 in Queen Anne's County; and 17,170 to 17,150 in Talbot County. In Caroline County, it gets above that to 27,421, but that's on the four-lane expressway-type bypass of Denton. Back to two lanes, it gets down to 12,431 approaching the Delaware state line.
Now does it carry more traffic than the published AADTs during the beach season? Yes, of course it does.
SR 151/SR 18 in Blytheville, AR. I can see why they constructed the bypass in the first place.
Quote from: SP Cook on May 09, 2017, 10:33:57 AM
In WV the very dangerous 12 mile gap in US 35 which will hopefully be eliminated by fall of 19 is the busiest. After that, there really are no 2-lane roads that make much sense for thru traffic.
Wonder how busy U.S. 60 was before I-64 was completed? Say from Sam Black Church to W.Va. 61?
Centerville Road in Lancaster County. The road seems to be always packed with cars at all hours. Widening is improbable, due to the development beside the road.
Quote from: SP Cook on May 09, 2017, 10:33:57 AM
In WV the very dangerous 12 mile gap in US 35 which will hopefully be eliminated by fall of 19 is the busiest. After that, there really are no 2-lane roads that make much sense for thru traffic.
The remaining 2-lane segments of US 340 would fit the bill, especially the segment near Harpers Ferry which is well into the 20K's for daily traffic.
In Idaho, #1 of state highways (not even going to try to consider city streets, though I can't think of any good candidates) is likely US-20/26 between Eagle Rd. and Locust Grove (3 lanes, one a center turn lane only counts for this, right?) in Boise/Meridian/Eagle. I can't find any traffic data there (ITD's website is pretty bad compared to ODOT, and information is less plentiful and harder to find), but farther west at McDermott Rd. (where there is less traffic) the AADT is around 16,000. So it wouldn't surprise me if farther east it approaches 25,000-30,000 (but that's just a guess). 1 mile between Eagle Rd. and Locust Grove is already planned for widening soon, and long terms plans for widening from Eagle Rd. to Caldwell.
A close #2 I'd guess would be ID-55 between Nampa and Marsing. Data shows about 16,000 AADT near Indiana Ave, though I bet closer in to Nampa that number is more like 20,000-25,000 (though again I'm just estimating).
EDIT: Another contender is ID-44 between Star and Eagle. Traffic counters should about 18,500 AADT there, though that's probably the peak of the 2 lane section (whereas the above two don't have counters in the highest traffic segments).
US 1 from FL City to Key Largo. Now with the Jersey barrier its harder to pass, except only in the passing areas. It can get pretty congested with it being a major road to all the Keys. Card Sound Road is nearby, but still is not the best alternate.
Portland: Sellwood Bridge, though Division Street between 3rd and 82nd gets up there.
Aside from the routes Max mentioned in his earlier post, the 2-lane road that stands out in terms of consistent congestion is CA 84: two segments, the first being Niles Canyon Road (between CA 238 and I-680; the second is the segment immediately east of I-680 heading toward Livermore. The final segment of that route, the N-S section along Isabel Ave. (on the west side of Livermore) has recently been upgraded to a multilane facility.
In the same general area, Vasco Road has an unimproved section in Alameda County that remains 2 lanes, although the northern portion of the road in Contra Costa County has been improved to 2 lanes on uphill segments (both directions) with a K-rail down the middle. However, the single-lane downhill sections are unbelievably congested during rush hours (morning, SB and evening, NB); Silicon Valley workers heading to and from their homes in Brentwood and Discovery Bay (where houses are about half as expensive as San Jose and environs).
When I was traveling regularly (at least 8-10 times per year) beween Northern California and the Northwest, I used to use OR 58 as a NB route during the periods of benign weather; that route was incredibly busy no matter what time of day or which day of the week -- and dominated by trucks. US 97 from Klamath Falls to the OR 58 junction was equally busy -- and also truck-heavy. Both were primarily 2 lanes except through the larger towns.
US 190 in Slidell from the US 11 junction westward is hell on Earth.
Highest I can find in the Harrisburg-York-Lancaster area according to PennDOT is 21,000. It appears 3x:
PA 74 between Davidsburg Rd in Dover and the beginning of the 4-lane by US 30.
PA 94 between PA 234 and PA 394
Harrisburg Pike in Lancaster east of US 30 to PA 72.
Nexus 6P
Quote from: froggie on May 09, 2017, 01:58:47 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on May 09, 2017, 10:33:57 AM
In WV the very dangerous 12 mile gap in US 35 which will hopefully be eliminated by fall of 19 is the busiest. After that, there really are no 2-lane roads that make much sense for thru traffic.
The remaining 2-lane segments of US 340 would fit the bill, especially the segment near Harpers Ferry which is well into the 20K's for daily traffic.
Very much agree. That section of U.S. 340 is the main gateway road from "metropolitan" Maryland to the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia (even though U.S. 340 crosses the northern tip of Loudoun County, Virginia to get there), and carries heavy traffic most days of the week.
The horse race track and casino at Charles Town draws at least some customers from Maryland, presumably via U.S. 340.
Then there's the matter of a fair amount of "leapfrog" development in Jefferson and Berkeley Counties with many of the new homes being sold to Marylanders "voting with their feet" to leave the high home prices (caused at least in part by Smart Growth policies at the state and local levels) and move to the Eastern Panhandle.
I am not aware of West Virginia having any Smart Growth laws at the state level.
Sullivan Ave. (CT 194), South Windsor, CT. It serves as a main road/industrual route through the center of town and handles rush-hour traffic coming from west of the CT River via the Bissell Bridge. It carries a 40mph speed limit but good luck going more than 35 during the day. The NIMBYs refuse to widen it too even though there's a bunch of warehouses and a FedEx sorting center the lie on it.
I'd venture a guess that the multiplexed US 2/US 95 between Bonners Ferry and Sandpoint, ID would be the busiest 2-lane segment in northern Idaho -- and probably the entire extended Spokane area. Carries most of the area traffic -- commercial and otherwise -- from I-90 north into Canada.
Wisconsin tends to 4-lane the busier stretches before they crest 10,000 vehicles per day. US-12/18 is an exception at 12,500 vpd east of the County N interchange, and north (west) of Sauk City.
Michigan hangs onto the 2-lanes a bit longer. US-127 south of Jackson is one outlier, at 19,000 vpd. Stretches of M-72 east of Traverse City run at about 15,000 vpd. M-53 north of Romeo reaches as high as 20,000 vpd, as does M-59 between Howell and US-23.
It'd be nice if we started seeing more AADT (VPD) numbers. That way, we could get an idea of the busiest section of single-carriageway in the US.
Surely traffic counts are published by most agencies. WSDOT publishes an interactive map. Several local counties near me publish PDFs with a list of every road.
In order from most to least, based on solid numbers already mentioned, here's the current leaderboard (only one number from each state):
1) sections of WA-522 (~27,500 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
2) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
3) sections of PA-74/PA-94/Harrisburg Pike (~21,000 VPD)
4) sections of MO-76 (~20,000 VPD)
5) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
6) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
7) sections of US-12/US-18 (WI)(~12,500 VPD)
Several other more vague responses have been mentioned:
froggie suggests US-340 in WV is "well into the 20k's"
7/8 suggests ON-8 has an AADT that is "pretty high"
Most every other user has suggested that "X road is pretty busy" but not much in the way of a number or even a mention of the terms "AADT" or "VPD".
I wouldn't mind just looking up some of the roads mentioned, but it can be hard to decipher these AADT PDFs without being familiar with the route's mileposts or cross routes.
It turns out finding AADT for Ontario's provincial highways is easier than I expected: http://www.raqsa.mto.gov.on.ca/techpubs/TrafficVolumes.nsf/tvweb?OpenForm&Seq=1 (http://www.raqsa.mto.gov.on.ca/techpubs/TrafficVolumes.nsf/tvweb?OpenForm&Seq=1)
It says that in 2013, the section of Highway 6 between Puslinch Townline Road and Calfass Road has an AADT of 27,700. Now that I know how easy it is to look up, I'll check the numbers before posting next time :)
Quote from: 7/8 on May 10, 2017, 11:58:31 PM
It turns out finding AADT for Ontario's provincial highways is easier than I expected: http://www.raqsa.mto.gov.on.ca/techpubs/TrafficVolumes.nsf/tvweb?OpenForm&Seq=1 (http://www.raqsa.mto.gov.on.ca/techpubs/TrafficVolumes.nsf/tvweb?OpenForm&Seq=1)
It says that in 2013, the section of Highway 6 between Puslinch Townline Road and Calfass Road has an AADT of 27,700. Now that I know how easy it is to look up, I'll check the numbers before posting next time :)
Not to worry. OP didn't ask for AADT numbers. I'm just being a finicky dickhead.
New list:
1) sections of ON-6 (CAN)(~27,700 VPD)
2) sections of WA-522 (~27,500 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
3) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
4) sections of PA-74/PA-94/Harrisburg Pike (~21,000 VPD)
5) sections of MO-76 (~20,000 VPD)
6) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
7) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
8) sections of US-12/US-18 (WI)(~12,500 VPD)
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 10, 2017, 07:28:19 AM
Highest I can find in the Harrisburg-York-Lancaster area according to PennDOT is 21,000.
US 30 between PA 896 and Ronks Road (a two-lane section) is 24,000 according to PennDOT's 2015 Lancaster County traffic volume map (http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/BPR_pdf_files/MAPS/Traffic/Traffic_Volume/County_Maps/Lancaster_TV.pdf).
Quote from: briantroutman on May 11, 2017, 12:13:25 AM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 10, 2017, 07:28:19 AM
Highest I can find in the Harrisburg-York-Lancaster area according to PennDOT is 21,000.
US 30 between PA 896 and Ronks Road (a two-lane section) is 24,000 according to PennDOT's 2015 Lancaster County traffic volume map (http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/BPR_pdf_files/MAPS/Traffic/Traffic_Volume/County_Maps/Lancaster_TV.pdf).
PA remains at number 4...
1) sections of ON-6 (CAN)(~27,700 VPD)
2) sections of WA-522 (~27,500 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
3) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
4) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
5) sections of MO-76 (~20,000 VPD)
6) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
7) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
8) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 09, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on May 09, 2017, 09:29:55 AM
NJ 47 is very busy during beach season, especially northbound on Sunday afternoons. We really need NJ 55 to be completed, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
And 347. And 322. And 83. And 9.
Hell, we can pretty much name every state and US road in NJ with 2 lanes - they just about all qualify.
Agreeed on that... 70 and 72 should have been 4 lanes decades ago. Wont happen due to Pinelands
NJ had plans for an extensive freeway network, so old 2 lanes roads were not dualized... Then of course all the, well at least most if the plans were canceled or remain incomplete... Like 55 and 18
LGMS428
Sellwood Bridge clocks in at 30,000 VPD, and that count will include SE Tacoma St from the foot of the bridge to at least SE 13th Ave, likely to 17th.
Nothing too crazy in the Buffalo area, which I would attribute to the ample capacity our roads have as a result of the population decline.
Although Losson Road in Lancaster runs between ~16-13k VPD from Union to Transit Roads, which might be the result of newer housing developments east of Transit Road. The turning lanes at Losson/Union/William would suggest these are big movements, with traffic headed to I-90.
Commuting that far out with no expressway must not be great.
Edit: I should also add Central Ave in Lancaster, as well as Genesee St east of Transit Rd.
I've added the 2-lane portion of Highway 7 between Kitchener and Guelph to the list (a new freeway is being built just to the north of the existing road).
1) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
2) sections of WA-522 (~27,500 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
3) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
4) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
5) sections of ON-7 (CAN) (~21,800 VPD)
6) sections of MO-76 (~20,000 VPD)
7) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
8) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
9) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
Quote from: jakeroot on May 10, 2017, 11:49:53 PM
It'd be nice if we started seeing more AADT (VPD) numbers. That way, we could get an idea of the busiest section of single-carriageway in the US.
Hey, thanks. I had that thought, but felt kind of like an asshole for thinking to suggest that. :wave:
Based on this (http://mhd.ms2soft.com/tcds/tsearch.asp?loc=Mhd&mod=) webpage, US 3 immediately south of I-95/MA 128 (Exit 33A) has over 30000 AADT (and under 60000, but that's almost guaranteed anyway).
Note: The link itself won't do it for you. You have to use the interactive for it to show this segment of US 3 in orange, which means between 30000 and 60000 AADT. My steps were:
1. Zoom in to the segment of road I mentioned.
2. Click the + next to Tools in the upper right.
3. Click the Traffic Flow checkbox.
4. Click the + net to Traffic Flow to show the legend.
One that would have been near the top of the list until the recent completion of it's dualization is the US 58 Midtown Tunnel between Portsmouth and Norfolk, VA. It was sitting at a 32,000 AADT.
One that should be on the list: the US 12 Long Lake Bypass (MN) has a 2015 AADT of 23,100. I'm not 100% on this next bit, but I believe this is the highest 2-lane average annual volume in Minnesota.
The Virginia portion of the above-mentioned US 340 near Harpers Ferry has an AADT of 24,000.
Quote from: 1 on May 11, 2017, 09:46:28 AM
Based on this (http://mhd.ms2soft.com/tcds/tsearch.asp?loc=Mhd&mod=) webpage, US 3 immediately south of I-95/MA 128 (Exit 33A) has over 30000 AADT (and under 60000, but that's almost guaranteed anyway).
Note: The link itself won't do it for you. You have to use the interactive for it to show this segment of US 3 in orange, which means between 30000 and 60000 AADT.
I got the page up and running. The blue boxes that appear along the route suggest an AADT somewhere between 24k and 26k, but the years were '92 and '88 when they were counted (respectively). Not sure how accurate that is in 2016 though. I couldn't manipulate the site to give me any new numbers. I try to use the location ID, but it wasn't having it. Either way, if you average those two numbers, that's still a very high AADT.
Quote from: 7/8 on May 11, 2017, 08:46:21 AM
I've added the 2-lane portion of Highway 7 between Kitchener and Guelph to the list (a new freeway is being built just to the north of the existing road).
I'm trying to just have one route from each state or province. If you find a route in Ontario that has a higher VPD than sections of Hwy 6, you'd want to replace Hwy 6 on the list with the new route (since only one route from each state/province is allowed).
I'm only doing one route from state/province because I don't want the list to get ridiculously long. That said, if someone wants to keep track the busiest routes, period, they are certainly welcome to.
Quote from: Bickendan on May 11, 2017, 02:44:20 AM
Sellwood Bridge clocks in at 30,000 VPD, and that count will include SE Tacoma St from the foot of the bridge to at least SE 13th Ave, likely to 17th.
Is that before or after widening? The new bridge looks to be four lanes. If before, that would be a very busy bridge! Looks like it would squeeze in at #2 (#1 for Oregon until we know better).Whoops. Looks like the new bridge is still two lanes. I've added the bridge to the list...
Quote from: froggie on May 11, 2017, 10:38:30 AM
One that would have been near the top of the list until the recent completion of it's dualization is the US 58 Midtown Tunnel between Portsmouth and Norfolk, VA. It was sitting at a 32,000 AADT.
One that should be on the list: the US 12 Long Lake Bypass (MN) has a 2015 AADT of 23,100. I'm not 100% on this next bit, but I believe this is the highest 2-lane average annual volume in Minnesota.
The Virginia portion of the above-mentioned US 340 near Harpers Ferry has an AADT of 24,000.
Looks good. Looks like we have a new leader (by a country mile)
1) sections of SW Sellwood (OR, Sellwood Bridge) (~30,000 VPD)
2) sections of WA-522 (~28,000 VPD)
3) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
4) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
5) sections of (MA) US-3 (~25,550 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
6) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
6) sections of (VA) US-340 (~24,000 VPD)
8) sections of (MN) US-12 (~23,100 VPD)
9) sections of MO-76 (~20,000 VPD)
9) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
11) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
12) sections of (NY, Lancaster) Losson Road (~14,500 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
13) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
By the way, I've changed the Michigan routes to also be number 8, since they're a tie with the Missouri route.
EDIT: I've had to adjust my Washington route (522). My original count included a four-lane section well past the Snohomish River. Weirdly, this four lane section is quieter than the two lane section (the number went up).
Jake: take US 58 off the list. As I noted, it would have been near the top until the recent completion of it's dualization. It's a past one, but no longer current since it's now 4 lanes (as of last summer). You also missed what I posted about US 340 near Harpers Ferry which would put it tied with #7.
Quote from: froggie on May 11, 2017, 11:01:49 AM
Jake: take US 58 off the list. As I noted, it would have been near the top until the recent completion of it's dualization. It's a past one, but no longer current since it's now 4 lanes (as of last summer). You also missed what I posted about US 340 near Harpers Ferry which would put it tied with #7.
Ahh crap. I did see the bit on Harpers Ferry, but I ignored it because it looked like US-58 was busier. I see now that I completely missed that bit on dualization. Here's the list again:
1) sections of SW Sellwood (OR, Sellwood Bridge) (~30,000 VPD)
2) sections of WA-522 (~28,000 VPD)
3) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
4) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
5) sections of (MA) US-3 (~25,550 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
6) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
6) sections of (VA) US-340 (~24,000 VPD)
8) sections of (MN) US-12 (~23,100 VPD)
9) sections of MO-76 (~20,000 VPD)
9) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
11) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
12) sections of (NY, Lancaster) Losson Road (~14,500 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
13) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
CA 1 just north of Moss Landing (Between Dolan and Jensen Rds) has ~37,000 VPD according to Caltrans in 2015: http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/census/volumes2015/Route1.html
There are probably higher California 2-lane numbers - I haven't looked very hard.
Quote from: citrus on May 11, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
CA 1 just north of Moss Landing (Between Dolan and Jensen Rds) has ~37,000 VPD according to Caltrans in 2015: http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/census/volumes2015/Route1.html
There are probably higher California 2-lane numbers - I haven't looked very hard.
Holy shit! That's remarkable. Easily number one on the list:
1) sections of CA-1 (~37,000 VPD)
2) sections of SW Sellwood (OR, Sellwood Bridge) (~30,000 VPD)
3) sections of WA-522 (~28,000 VPD)
4) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
5) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
6) sections of (MA) US-3 (~25,550 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
7) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
7) sections of (VA) US-340 (~24,000 VPD)
8) sections of (MN) US-12 (~23,100 VPD)
10) sections of MO-76 (~20,000 VPD)
10) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
12) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
13) sections of (NY, Lancaster) Losson Road (~14,500 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
14) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 10, 2017, 04:10:28 PM
Sullivan Ave. (CT 194), South Windsor, CT. It serves as a main road/industrual route through the center of town and handles rush-hour traffic coming from west of the CT River via the Bissell Bridge. It carries a 40mph speed limit but good luck going more than 35 during the day. The NIMBYs refuse to widen it too even though there's a bunch of warehouses and a FedEx sorting center the lie on it.
ConnDOT provides traffic logs on their site. The highest ADT along CT 194 is the short "overlap" between CT 74 and CT 30 (22600); other than that, CT 194 tops out at 16800, between Ayers Road and Sand Hill Road (where South Windsor's venture capital firms are :-)
There's no easy way to filter traffic data by number of thru lanes and then sort by AADT. I found a section of US 6 east of CT 10 (2 lanes + climbing lanes) with 22900. There may be places that are higher.
About my example of US 3:
If you just zoom in, you will find values for 1988 and 1992. However, there is an option to toggle a layer (steps described in previous post) that shows different colors: dark green for 0-5000, light green for 5000-15000, yellow for 15000-30000, orange for 30000-60000, and red for 60000+. Toggling this layer shows orange for this segment of US 3, although it turns yellow after one mile or so.
I would actually snip the list at least >15k. I found at least four sections from 12-15k in just the SW district.
16-19K MO83 in Bolivar MO (three Lane section)
16-18K BR13 in Warrensburg (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Warrensburg,+MO+64093/@38.7740244,-93.736218,155m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x87c158077798f5d1:0xab4d25001d42a080!8m2!3d38.7627893!4d-93.7360498?hl=en) (On second thought, the 18k section is two through lanes+turn lanes? Complicated)
20K MO Route RA‽‽‽ :crazy: (What the hell, doesn't exist on Google Maps, but it's on the back of 2013 MO map and counted as a green spot. huh)
16-17k US50 from Washington to I44 (In town five lanes, but reduces to two lanes)
And another thing, Most of these sections are only a couple miles at the longest. Would you want longer sections? (AKA harder to get extended stretches of 20K+
Would a 2-lane approach to a 2-lane bridge count? The 2-lane section of VA 147 Huguenot Rd carries 26,000
Quote from: 1 on May 11, 2017, 12:26:10 PM
About my example of US 3:
If you just zoom in, you will find values for 1988 and 1992. However, there is an option to toggle a layer (steps described in previous post) that shows different colors: dark green for 0-5000, light green for 5000-15000, yellow for 15000-30000, orange for 30000-60000, and red for 60000+. Toggling this layer shows orange for this segment of US 3, although it turns yellow after one mile or so.
I understand. But I can't put it on the list without some solid numbers. I did see the orange layer, and I was curious about it, but I couldn't find out why it was orange. So I used the only two numbers I saw.
Quote from: webny99 on May 11, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
Also, NY 31 west of Rochester, between NY 260 and NY 531, has 20,400 AADT. That's the highest I can find in upstate NY, but could look more extensively.
That moves New York up a couple places.
Quote from: intelati49 on May 11, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
I would actually snip the list at least >15k. I found at least four sections from 12-15k in just the SW district.
16-19K MO83 in Bolivar MO (three Lane section)
16-18K BR13 in Warrensburg (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Warrensburg,+MO+64093/@38.7740244,-93.736218,155m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x87c158077798f5d1:0xab4d25001d42a080!8m2!3d38.7627893!4d-93.7360498?hl=en) (On second thought, the 18k section is two through lanes+turn lanes? Complicated)
20K MO Route RA‽‽‽ :crazy: (What the hell, doesn't exist on Google Maps, but it's on the back of 2013 MO map and counted as a green spot. huh)
16-17k US50 from Washington to I44 (In town five lanes, but reduces to two lanes)
The busiest routes in MO so far then would be a tie between routes RA (?) and 76. Stays in the same place on the list tho.
Quote from: plain on May 11, 2017, 01:01:36 PM
Would a 2-lane approach to a 2-lane bridge count? The 2-lane section of VA 147 Huguenot Rd carries 26,000
It should. That displaces VA's section of US-340 from the list.
Quote from: kurumi on May 11, 2017, 11:48:08 AM
I found a section of US 6 east of CT 10 (2 lanes + climbing lanes) with 22900. There may be places that are higher.
I'll put it on the list, as along as
webny99 is fine with climbing lanes.
1) sections of CA-1 (~37,000 VPD)
2) sections of (OR) SW Sellwood (Sellwood Bridge) (~30,000 VPD)
3) sections of WA-522 (~28,000 VPD)
4) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
5) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
6) sections of VA-147 (~26,000)
7) sections of (MA) US-3 (~25,550 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
8) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
9) sections of (MN) US-12 (~23,100 VPD)
10) sections of CT-10 (~22,900 VPD)
11) sections of NY-31 (~20,400 VPD)
12) sections of MO-76/MO-RA (~20,000 VPD)
12) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
14) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
15) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
Quote from: webny99 on May 11, 2017, 02:46:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 11, 2017, 02:29:19 PM
I'll put it on the list, as along as webny99 is fine with climbing lanes.
well, depends how many :spin:
I think the rule should be "single carriageway, no more than three lanes (third lane either for passing or turning left).
I have MassDOT's shapefiles and found the segment of US 3 that "1" is referring to has an ADT of 32,900. However, there's a 2-lane stretch of MA 12 in Fitchburg that has an ADT of 34,800, so that one would win out for Massachusetts.
Jake, it's just Sellwood Bridge in Portland between John's Landing and Sellwood, not SW Sellwood. SE Tacoma Street is the eastern end of the bridge in Sellwood itself ;)
For simplicity, the entry should be (OR) Portland (Sellwood Bridge/SE Tacoma St)
FWIW, if anyone wants me to look up numbers for a highway in Mexico, just ask me. I haven't found anything even close to these top numbers myself, though, except on multi-lane highways.
US 26 (SE Powell Blvd) at SE 122nd Ave: ADT 19500
Speaking of Portland & environs, OR 18 from McMinnville to US 101 north of Lincoln City has to qualify -- particularly on weekends -- as one of the most crowded 2-lane facilities I've come across. Also, and especially in the summer, OR 6 from US 26 to Tillamook gets pretty congested as well (must be all those PDX cheese-tasters!); to the coast & back can easily be done in a day from metro Portland, so the nearby coast is a prime "day-trip" destination. OR 18 to Lincoln City gets extremely congested in kite-flying season (that coastal town is renowned for that event).
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
Some of the others in the quasi-extended Bay Area that are pretty bad would include:
- 152 when it drops from a four-lane expressway to two lanes west of the junction with 156 to US 101. That stretch through Gilroy would probably rank among the worst or most miserable drives in the state.
- 129 since people use the easy low pass to cut through the Santa Cruz range to get to the coast. Nothing that will likely stop but you won't get anywhere fast.
- The entirety of 156 is essentially two-lanes with no passing zones with heavy truck traffic. 25 north of Hollister is similar north to US 101, but I would honestly rather take a combination of 156 and 25 to get to US 101 any day over 152.
- 68 west of Salinas to Monterey has heavy traffic with commuters everywhere.
- 9 essentially is almost always bogged down with tourist traffic or people trying to get to work down in San Jose.
CA 37 from 121 to Mare Island?
Quote from: kkt on May 11, 2017, 03:46:13 PM
CA 37 from 121 to Mare Island?
Yes, 37's a poster child for 2-lane congestion; there's a thread in Southwest dealing with the problems endemic to that facility. But as long as we're discussing North Bay 2-lane congestion, the somewhat parallel CA 12 to the north between I-80 and CA 29 (aka the eastern approach to Napa) is always packed -- with a substantial percentage of trucks; and even CA 12 around the south end of Fairfield/Suisun (after the 4-lane section peters out) is heavily trafficked all the way out past Rio Vista to I-5; it's the fastest way to get to southward I-5 from the North Bay without having to endure the gauntlets of the I-680 and I-80 bridges.
If you told me that NY 111, NY 112, and Suffolk County Road 16 don't make the list, I'd find it very hard to believe.
FYI, in Florida, you've got Hernando-Pasco CR 578, most of SR 52, and parts of SR 54.
Quote from: sparker on May 11, 2017, 03:37:42 PM
Speaking of Portland & environs, OR 18 from McMinnville to US 101 north of Lincoln City has to qualify -- particularly on weekends -- as one of the most crowded 2-lane facilities I've come across. Also, and especially in the summer, OR 6 from US 26 to Tillamook gets pretty congested as well (must be all those PDX cheese-tasters!); to the coast & back can easily be done in a day from metro Portland, so the nearby coast is a prime "day-trip" destination. OR 18 to Lincoln City gets extremely congested in kite-flying season (that coastal town is renowned for that event).
I didn't look at the Wilson River Highway (OR 6) or the Salmon River Highway (OR 18) in the ODOT traffic count log. OR 18 has significant four-lane segments, so it'd be difficult to break down where it'd qualify (the most notable spot off the top of my head is between Bus OR 18 and OR 99W, and that won't include the Salem OR 22 traffic).
Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2017, 03:32:33 PM
FWIW, if anyone wants me to look up numbers for a highway in Mexico, just ask me. I haven't found anything even close to these top numbers myself, though, except on multi-lane highways.
I'd be happy to include the Mexican states on the list. That would make the list 91-long (10 Canadian Provinces + 31 Mexican States + 50 US States)...you think you might be up to the task of finding the busiest single carriageways in each Mexican state (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNdw4DaUM8)?
Quote from: Bickendan on May 11, 2017, 03:18:45 PM
Jake, it's just Sellwood Bridge in Portland between John's Landing and Sellwood, not SW Sellwood. SE Tacoma Street is the eastern end of the bridge in Sellwood itself ;)
For simplicity, the entry should be (OR) Portland (Sellwood Bridge/SE Tacoma St)
Fixed. I changed the wording slightly, but included the right information.
Quote from: froggie on May 11, 2017, 03:14:50 PM
I have MassDOT's shapefiles and found the segment of US 3 that "1" is referring to has an ADT of 32,900. However, there's a 2-lane stretch of MA 12 in Fitchburg that has an ADT of 34,800, so that one would win out for Massachusetts.
Mass is steadily moving up the list...
1) sections of CA-1 (~37,000 VPD)
2) sections of MA-12 (~34,800 VPD)
3) sections of (OR, Portland) SE Tacoma St & Sellwood Bridge (~30,000 VPD)
4) sections of WA-522 (~28,000 VPD)
5) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
6) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
7) sections of VA-147 (~26,000)
8) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
9) sections of (MN) US-12 (~23,100 VPD)
10) sections of CT-10 (~22,900 VPD)
11) sections of NY-31 (~20,400 VPD)
12) sections of MO-76/MO-RA (~20,000 VPD)
12) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
14) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
15) sections of (DC) Canad Road NW (~17,200 VPD)
16) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
Updated to include DC (see cpzilliacus's comment directly below)
District of Columbia has no "rural" highways that might tend to have very heavy traffic volumes, but I think I have found the highest published AADT for a two-lane street. It is Canal Road, N.W. between Reservoir Road and Clark Place, and the 2014 data show an AADT of about 17,200. An unusual feature of Canal Road is that it is reversible weekdays. In the morning both lanes point toward the Georgetown area of D.C. (east); in the afternoon they point toward Chain Bridge and Clara Barton Parkway (west).
D.C. once had many reversible streets, now only a few are left, and this is one of them.
Note that there are no "published" AADT data for the parkways owned by the National Park Service, and it is possible that some section of (for example) Beach Drive, N.W. (a low-speed two lane parkway in Rock Creek Park) could have higher traffic volumes.
It is also possible that there is a two lane street that is not reported by DDOT that has more traffic.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
Some of the others in the quasi-extended Bay Area that are pretty bad would include:
- 152 when it drops from a four-lane expressway to two lanes west of the junction with 156 to US 101. That stretch through Gilroy would probably rank among the worst or most miserable drives in the state.
- 129 since people use the easy low pass to cut through the Santa Cruz range to get to the coast. Nothing that will likely stop but you won't get anywhere fast.
- The entirety of 156 is essentially two-lanes with no passing zones with heavy truck traffic. 25 north of Hollister is similar north to US 101, but I would honestly rather take a combination of 156 and 25 to get to US 101 any day over 152.
- 68 west of Salinas to Monterey has heavy traffic with commuters everywhere.
- 9 essentially is almost always bogged down with tourist traffic or people trying to get to work down in San Jose.
I checked some of these earlier - didn't think about CA 9 though.
- 152: This is the one I first checked. The 2-lane section between 101 and 156 seems to max out around 24,300 AADT.
- 129: Gets up to 26,000 AADT on a 2-lane section in Watsonville itself, though most of the route east to 101 is closer to 11-12,000.
- 156: 29-31,000 AADT west of 101, less east of 101.
- 25: 23,800 AADT at the north end.
- 68: Busiest section is 4-lane, but gets up to at least 25,700 on a 2-lane section.
- 9: This is congested because it's so curvy over the mountains, but it doesn't get above 20,000 AADT until the 4-lane sections.
Quote from: kkt on May 11, 2017, 03:46:13 PM
CA 37 from 121 to Mare Island?
38,500 AADT at the Sonoma/Solano county line! Though this stretch does have a median barrier, it is 2 lanes.
Quote from: jakeroot on May 11, 2017, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: citrus on May 11, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
CA 1 just north of Moss Landing (Between Dolan and Jensen Rds) has ~37,000 VPD according to Caltrans in 2015: http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/census/volumes2015/Route1.html
There are probably higher California 2-lane numbers - I haven't looked very hard.
Holy shit! That's remarkable. Easily number one on the list:
1) sections of CA-1 (~37,000 VPD)
2) sections of SW Sellwood (OR, Sellwood Bridge) (~30,000 VPD)
3) sections of WA-522 (~28,000 VPD)
4) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
5) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
6) sections of (MA) US-3 (~25,550 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
7) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
7) sections of (VA) US-340 (~24,000 VPD)
8) sections of (MN) US-12 (~23,100 VPD)
10) sections of MO-76 (~20,000 VPD)
10) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
12) sections of ID-44 (~18,500 VPD)
13) sections of (NY, Lancaster) Losson Road (~14,500 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
14) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
CASR-65 in Placer county shows 54000 VPD ahead at Twelve Bridges Road (where I believe CASR-65 is freeway) and 22500 VPD ahead at the county line (where the road is two lanes, if memory serves). Somehere in the middle (38KVPD) would put it ahead of the CASR-1 figure.
CASR-49 is two lanes sometimes with passing lanes in northern Placer and southern Nevada counties with around 30KVPD.
CASR-152 is two lanes up to just before at the junction with CASR-156 with 39KVPD.
For Virginia I'm gonna guess that US-15 north of Leesburg to Maryland has to be up in the mix especially if the traffic projections in this article from 7 years ago are accurete.
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/u.s._15_traffic_volume_could_reach_interstat565e_81_levels_projection_says/#comments
A lack of any Potomac River crossings from between Point of Rocks and the Capital Beltway(30 miles) is definitely a significant reason why traffic on this stretch of US-15 is the way it is
^ It isn't. I checked 15 as well, and while the segment immediately north of the Leesburg Bypass matches US 340 for traffic level, it's not higher than 340.
Quote from: jakeroot on May 11, 2017, 05:15:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2017, 03:32:33 PM
FWIW, if anyone wants me to look up numbers for a highway in Mexico, just ask me. I haven't found anything even close to these top numbers myself, though, except on multi-lane highways.
I'd be happy to include the Mexican states on the list. That would make the list 91-long (10 Canadian Provinces + 31 Mexican States + 50 US States)...you think you might be up to the task of finding the busiest single carriageways in each Mexican state (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNdw4DaUM8)?
Finding AADTs is the easy part. It's determining whether a specific segment is single-carriageway or not that's the hard part.
I have a bigger Wisconsin 2-lane figure:
Hwy 50 just east of Delavan, WI has a 2-lane section clocking 16,800 vpd.
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 09, 2017, 03:33:20 AM
The two lane sections of US-17 in Jones County (soon to be extinct) and north of New Bern in Craven County for me.
During the summer it can be excruciating being stuck in the beach traffic, and good luck attempting to pass before the next no passing zone.
I second what Max said about US-1 in the Keys, too.I never lived there, but I had been down to Key West several times and yep, it could be brutal.
For the record, the two sections of US-17 that I mentioned before are aprroximately 12,000 (2015 numbers) so they just miss Jake's list.
Surprising that no one's cited any Southern California roads so far! A few come to mind, gleaned from my time down south in the Inland Empire & high desert:
(1) CA 138 from east of Palmdale to I-15. A few passing lanes and 4-lane segments, but mostly still 2-lane.
(2) CA 76 just west of I-15. The major "cutoff" from I-15 to Oceanside & Camp Pendleton; planned for expansion but, AFAIK, still a very congested 2 lanes, at least east of A13 (the Fallbrook access road).
(3) Not a numbered route (yet?) but still a major intraregional access route: Ramona Expressway from I-215 into San Jacinto. The western half (west of Lake Perris) has been brought out to a divided 4 lanes, but the eastern portion remains 2 lanes (with easement for 2 more). This is the northern portion of a long-planned reverse "C" facility around both San Jacinto and Hemet -- anything to take traffic away from CA 74, which is a multilane arterial that is one of the slowest and most congested drives in that neck of the woods. The southern portion, the Domengoni Parkway, has been constructed to divided expressway standards and eventually empties out onto I-215 at Menifee (and has been widely considered to be the likely future CA 74 alignment). It's likely every state route in that area will be realigned in the near future; it wouldn't be surprising to see the Ramona Expressway receive a state designation down the line (something Caltrans doesn't do very often!) -- probably after the entire bypass is deployed.
(4) US 395 from Adelanto north to CA 58. Truckers hauling goods from Inland Empire distributors have long used this route to get (via 58) to Northern California as an alternative to traversing the L.A. basin. Periodic passing lanes, but still a harrowing drive -- particularly on one of the "blind" hills!
Quote from: webny99 on May 15, 2017, 10:09:10 PM
Still plenty of states we haven't heard from. Do you think anything (besides US-12) in the Midwest can top 10K? :bigass:
SR 161 at the Linworth rail crossing in Columbus has 16,600.
FL 997, I have no idea what the traffic count is but it is filled with trucks and commuters.
I can think of loads of English S2 roads that are around the 25k mark, but the stand-out ones that top 30k almost all have a third lane (sometimes a bus lane) or fourth lane (S4 is rare). However there's 3 I found about 32k:
- the A24/A27 concurrency at Worthing
- the A4440 Worcester bypass over the Severn (being dualled)
- the A47 (nee A12) Great Yarmouth bypass from the A149 to the A1243
In Delaware County, PA, the two-lane section of US 322 between US 1 and I-95 maxes out at 27000.
I found more data from ACHD (as opposed to ITD) on US-20/26. Just west of Eagle Rd (which is where it drops to 2 lanes+center turn lane), VPD is 26,704. That beats out the ID-44 numbers I had before (and my original estimate of 25,000-30,000 was spot on). From Eagle Rd. to Locust Grove Rd. is already planned to be widened soonish, but not beyond there for now, and counts only drop to 23,000 by Meridian Rd. But it will help the bottleneck at the Eagle Rd. light which is the biggest problem.
Data source (long PDF warning): https://www.achdidaho.org/Documents/Traffic/TrafficCounts.pdf
It's a 2014 number so it's definitely higher now, too.
I guess I'll update the list we had going:
1) sections of CA-1 (~37,000 VPD)
2) sections of MA-12 (~34,800 VPD)
3) sections of (OR, Portland) SE Tacoma St & Sellwood Bridge (~30,000 VPD)
4) sections of WA-522 (~28,000 VPD)
5) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
6) sections of (ID) US-20/26 (~26,700 VPD)
7) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
8) sections of VA-147 (~26,000)
9) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
10) sections of (MN) US-12 (~23,100 VPD)
11) sections of CT-10 (~22,900 VPD)
12) sections of NY-31 (~20,400 VPD)
13) sections of MO-76/MO-RA (~20,000 VPD)
13) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
15) sections of (DC) Canal Road NW (~17,200 VPD)
16) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
^^
Thank you for keeping the list going, doorknob. You may want to change the DC listing. I incorrectly spelled "Canal Road" as "Canad Road"; just in case anyone goes looking for it! :-D
Quote from: webny99 on May 20, 2017, 08:53:48 PM
Quote from: 6a on May 20, 2017, 12:31:47 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 15, 2017, 10:09:10 PM
Still plenty of states we haven't heard from. Do you think anything (besides US-12) in the Midwest can top 10K? :bigass:
SR 161 at the Linworth rail crossing in Columbus has 16,600.
When I said Midwest I was thinking Dakotas/Nebraska/Kansas :D
I live in Michigan and we consider Michigan to be a part of the Midwest.
In WV:
- US 119 (Grafton Road) south of Morgantown: 18k
- WV 9 near I-81 by Martinsburg: 22k
- WV 601 in South Charleston: 22k
Including center turn lanes:
- US 19/WV 7 (Beechurst Avenue) in Morgantown: 21k
- US 119 (Mileground Road) northeast of Morgantown: 23k
- WV 7 (Earl Core Road) in Morgantown: 24k
NC 105 between Boone and Linville. It acts as a less curvy shortcut for US 221. Barely any passing lanes going northbound, so traffic backs up quickly.
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 01, 2017, 08:02:08 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 20, 2017, 08:53:48 PM
Quote from: 6a on May 20, 2017, 12:31:47 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 15, 2017, 10:09:10 PM
Still plenty of states we haven't heard from. Do you think anything (besides US-12) in the Midwest can top 10K? :bigass:
SR 161 at the Linworth rail crossing in Columbus has 16,600.
When I said Midwest I was thinking Dakotas/Nebraska/Kansas :D
I live in Michigan and we consider Michigan to be a part of the Midwest.
Should have said "plains states" or something other than the Midwest. Cincinnati is, after all, the "Queen City of the West."
Quote from: fillup420 on November 02, 2017, 10:18:01 AM
NC 105 between Boone and Linville. It acts as a less curvy shortcut for US 221. Barely any passing lanes going northbound, so traffic backs up quickly.
^yes this^
I was just through there back in June, around dinner time, and I can concur!
US 441 through the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. I once got stuck in a 45 minute queue for a stop sign.
Heh, then US 30 at Multnomah Falls in Oregon counts, too.
US 180 Flagstaff to Vale (Jct AZ 64)
AZ 95 Parker to Lake Havasu City
AZ 95 Lake Havasu City to I-40
AZ 64 I-40 (Williams) to Vale then continuing US 180/AZ64 to Tusayan/Grand Canyon South Rim Entrance
Quote from: mapman1071 on November 07, 2017, 06:41:11 PM
AZ 95 Parker to Lake Havasu City
AZ 95 Lake Havasu City to I-40
AZ 64 I-40 (Williams) to Vale then continuing US 180/AZ64 to Tusayan/Grand Canyon South Rim Entrance
No US 60 from Superior to Globe? I'd say AZ 95 between Parker and Quartzsite is way worse when the RV season kicks in.
A few from Illinois:
* Illinois 62 from east of IL 25 to IL 68: 24,400 (2015)
* Illinois 72 between Randall Road and Sleepy Hollow Road in Kane County: 23,500 (2016)
* Illinois 31 in McHenry County between Charles J. Miller Road and a point north of IL 176: 22,200 (2016)
* Illinois 59 between IL 62/IL 68 and IL 72: 22,300 (2015)
* US 30/Illinois 47 just north of the Kane/Kendall County Line: 20,900 (2016)
Some more from Michigan:
US-12 from Textile Rd to US-23 (Ann Arbor area): 26,334
US-31 from Silver Lake Rd to M-37 (Traverse City area): 22,786
M-37 from 76th St to Caledonia (Grand Rapids area): 22,050
M-22 from M-72 to Cherry Bend Rd (Traverse City area): 20,562
In my area, NY 286 is painfully busy, with an AADT of around 20,000 and a nasty lane merge (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1536212,-77.4948713,3a,75y,94.72h,89.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEeMUzGg3GyC6lxSdwvGMWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to kick off the two-lane segment.
NY 404 (Ridge Road) has a slightly lower AADT, but the high volume and frequency of stoplights makes the congestion equally bad, if not worse.
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Speaking of Portland & environs, OR 18 from McMinnville to US 101 north of Lincoln City has to qualify -- particularly on weekends -- as one of the most crowded 2-lane facilities I've come across. Also, and especially in the summer, OR 6 from US 26 to Tillamook gets pretty congested as well (must be all those PDX cheese-tasters!); to the coast & back can easily be done in a day from metro Portland, so the nearby coast is a prime "day-trip" destination. OR 18 to Lincoln City gets extremely congested in kite-flying season (that coastal town is renowned for that event).
I didn't look at the Wilson River Highway (OR 6) or the Salmon River Highway (OR 18) in the ODOT traffic count log. OR 18 has significant four-lane segments, so it'd be difficult to break down where it'd qualify (the most notable spot off the top of my head is between Bus OR 18 and OR 99W, and that won't include the Salem OR 22 traffic).
OR 18/OR 99W Untwinned AADT:
OR 18 to Dundee (out of the 3 miles between, 3/4 of a mile is twinned): ~22,000
In Dundee: ~24000. Max is 26,500. Twinning starts at Dundee. Highest rural 2 laner in Oregon.
OR 22 AADT between OR 18 and OR 223: 9000-11000.
OR 18 AADT:
MP 0-5: ~9000
MP 5-21: ~7000
MP 21-23: ~11,000
MP 23-24 (start of twinned roadway): 17,000
MP 27-34 (some of it twinned, some if it not): ~7500
Sheridan (MP 34) to McMinnville (MP 46): ~14000
End of McMinnville twin (MP 48) to OR 99W (MP 52): ~16,000
OR 6 AADT:
West of Banks: ~4500-6000 AADT.
East of Banks: ~9000 AADT.
Selected sections of US 101 AADT:
Astoria to Seaside: ~16,000
Lincoln City: 15,000 outside of downtown section (downtown and Taft are 4 laned)
Lincoln City to Depoe Bay: ~11,000
Depoe Bay to Newport: ~9100
Did we ever conclude what road is the busiest two-lane in the country?
Quote from: webny99 on February 16, 2018, 08:44:28 PM
Did we ever conclude what road is the busiest two-lane in the country?
We never were able to get to every state, but from the list we did compile...
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1) sections of CA-1 (~37,000 VPD)
2) sections of MA-12 (~34,800 VPD)
3) sections of (OR, Portland) SE Tacoma St & Sellwood Bridge (~30,000 VPD)
4) sections of WA-522 (~28,000 VPD)
5) sections of ON-6 (CAN) (~27,700 VPD)
6) sections of (ID) US-20/26 (~26,700 VPD)
7) sections of MD-32 (~26,200 VPD) (averaged two numbers)
8) sections of VA-147 (~26,000)
9) sections of (PA) US-30 (~24,000 VPD)
10) sections of (MN) US-12 (~23,100 VPD)
11) sections of CT-10 (~22,900 VPD)
12) sections of NY-31 (~20,400 VPD)
13) sections of MO-76/MO-RA (~20,000 VPD)
13) sections of M-53/M-59 (~20,000 VPD)
15) sections of (DC) Canal Road NW (~17,200 VPD)
16) sections of (WI) US-12/US-18 (~12,500 VPD)
CA 41 between Fresno and Oakhurst comes to mind after driving it today. I believe off the top of my head it now has five passing zones, I'm not sure what the traffic count is. CA 68 west of the Salinas River to CA 1 I believe is over 20,000 vehicles a day.
Quote from: webny99 on January 24, 2018, 12:09:48 PM
In my area, NY 286 is painfully busy, with an AADT of around 20,000 and a nasty lane merge (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1536212,-77.4948713,3a,75y,94.72h,89.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEeMUzGg3GyC6lxSdwvGMWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to kick off the two-lane segment.
NY 404 (Ridge Road) has a slightly lower AADT, but the high volume and frequency of stoplights makes the congestion equally bad, if not worse.
The 2 lane section of NY 441 is nasty as well and may be the busiest in Monroe and western Wayne County. The 2 lane sections of NY 104 (especially in Wayne County) is very busy and due to Thruway shunpiking NY96 and US20/NY5.
Quote from: Roadsguy on May 21, 2017, 11:17:05 PM
In Delaware County, PA, the two-lane section of US 322 between US 1 and I-95 maxes out at 27000.
According to the 2016 map, that section is down to 24000.
PA 23 in Phoenixville (around the corner from me) is at 25000
US 222 east of Kutztown is 27000
Quote from: jemacedo9 on February 18, 2018, 10:25:24 AM
US 222 east of Kutztown is 27000
I think this is the winner for PA. Even US 30 from Lancaster to Coatesville barely exceeds 20,000 on the two-lane portions. Interestingly though, PA 501 north of US 30 gets 24,000. I think it's about time they consider a Lititz Bypass for 501 connecting over to 222. :P
After a quick look through the UDOT AADT numbers, it appears that the Utah winner is 1300 East in Salt Lake City between 1700 and 2100 South with an AADT of 30,000. I've never seen that road not congested. Thing is, it has exactly zero chance of getting widened. It used to be State Route 181, but it was given back to Salt Lake City in 2007. The city then did a road diet on everything between 500 S and 2100 S, just so they could put in bike lanes.
Quote from: steviep24 on February 18, 2018, 07:42:08 AM
The 2 lane section of NY 441 is nasty as well and may be the busiest in Monroe and western Wayne County.
NY 31 has several segments (both west near Brockport and east near Macedon) that are busier. You can find AADT for anywhere in New York here (https://gis3.dot.ny.gov/html5viewer/?viewer=tdv). I wish other states did interactive maps like this one. *cough* PA :rolleyes:
Quote from: webny99 on February 28, 2018, 07:19:54 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on February 18, 2018, 07:42:08 AM
The 2 lane section of NY 441 is nasty as well and may be the busiest in Monroe and western Wayne County.
NY 31 has several segments (both west near Brockport and east near Macedon) that are busier. You can find AADT for anywhere in New York here (https://gis3.dot.ny.gov/html5viewer/?viewer=tdv). I wish other states did interactive maps like this one. *cough* PA :rolleyes:
That is a really neat tool! Any state besides NY do this?
Quote from: kkt on February 28, 2018, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 28, 2018, 07:19:54 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on February 18, 2018, 07:42:08 AM
The 2 lane section of NY 441 is nasty as well and may be the busiest in Monroe and western Wayne County.
NY 31 has several segments (both west near Brockport and east near Macedon) that are busier. You can find AADT for anywhere in New York here (https://gis3.dot.ny.gov/html5viewer/?viewer=tdv). I wish other states did interactive maps like this one. *cough* PA :rolleyes:
That is a really neat tool! Any state besides NY do this?
MA, linked earlier in this thread.
Quote from: 1 on February 28, 2018, 03:48:40 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 28, 2018, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 28, 2018, 07:19:54 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on February 18, 2018, 07:42:08 AM
The 2 lane section of NY 441 is nasty as well and may be the busiest in Monroe and western Wayne County.
NY 31 has several segments (both west near Brockport and east near Macedon) that are busier. You can find AADT for anywhere in New York here (https://gis3.dot.ny.gov/html5viewer/?viewer=tdv). I wish other states did interactive maps like this one. *cough* PA :rolleyes:
That is a really neat tool! Any state besides NY do this?
MA, linked earlier in this thread.
Also, WA (WSDOT traffic data geoportal): http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/data/tools/geoportal/?config=traffic
WSDOT recently updated their numbers, putting the section of 522 north of Paradise Lake Road at 29k AADT (up about a thousand from last year).
^ I'm having trouble with that link. I can see "layers", "legend" and "tools" pages, but not the map itself. Maybe just a mobile device thing.
What I like about maps like these is that the roads with the highest AADT are easy to spot, and from there it's relatively straightforward to identify the busiest two lane roads (and four lane, and so forth).
I'd like to see what every state has to offer in the way of an AADT map. I'm intersted enough that I'll be forgiving of maps less user-friendly than the NY map :)
Quote from: webny99 on February 28, 2018, 09:40:39 PM
^ I'm having trouble with that link. I can see "layers", "legend" and "tools" pages, but not the map itself. Maybe just a mobile device thing.
Works on my Galaxy S8+, but the map is extraordinarily small...
(https://i.imgur.com/sz1Jo5d.png)
Updated ones from MI with 2017 AADT (all over 20k)
US-12 from Textile Rd to US-23 (Ann Arbor): 27,414
M-11 from the Grand River to M-45 (Walker): 23,704
US-31 from Silver Lake Rd to M-37 (Traverse City): 23,584
US-12 from Moon Rd to Textile Rd (Ann Arbor/Saline): 23,223
US-12 from Industrial Dr to Moon Rd (Saline): 23,193
US-12 from Maple St to Industrial Dr (Saline): 22,598
M-37 from 76th St to Cherry Valley Ave (Caledonia): 22,293
M-53 from 34 Mile Rd to Macomb/Lapeer county line (Romeo): 22,000
M-22 from M-72 to Cherry Bend Rd (Traverse City): 20,850
M-53 within the City of Almont: 20,847
M-59 from Oak Crest Rd to Latson Rd (Howell): 20,744
US-127 from Ayers Rd to M-50 (Jackson): 20,375 [freeway begins just south of M-50]
M-59 from Latson Rd to Hacker Rd (Howell/Hartland): 20,330
M-11 from M-45 to Leonard St (Walker): 20,269
M-59 from Hacker Rd to US-23 (Hartland): 20,239
M-53 from Macomb/Lapeer county line to Almont south city limit (Almont): 20,164