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Title: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: DevalDragon on May 17, 2017, 02:34:09 AM
While traveling in New York City, I came across a Dunkin Donuts / Citgo gas station on the Hutchinson River Parkway.

https://goo.gl/mr8AkB <-Hutchinson River Service Plaza

How many other service plazas are there off the Interstate System? I know the Kentucky Parkway System has one, but are there any others?

https://goo.gl/GrWy9e <- Western KY Parkway Service Plaza
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 17, 2017, 05:17:02 AM
Florida's Turnpike probably has more than anything else that will pop up on this thread.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 17, 2017, 06:17:11 AM
All of the Garden State Parkway, all of the AC Expressway, and anything south of Interchange 6 on the NJ Turnpike.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: hotdogPi on May 17, 2017, 07:17:15 AM
MA 128 (the segment that's not I-95) between exits 19 and 18 "north"bound has a service plaza.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 17, 2017, 07:24:31 AM
Quote from: DevalDragon on May 17, 2017, 02:34:09 AM
While traveling in New York City, I came across a Dunkin Donuts / Citgo gas station on the Hutchinson River Parkway.

https://goo.gl/mr8AkB <-Hutchinson River Service Plaza

Yeah.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SB_Hutchinson_Pkwy_Service_Area;_East_Bronx.jpg <-Southbound.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NB_Hutchinson_Pkwy_Service_Area;_East_Bronx.jpg <-Northbound.

Both in Schuylerville in the Bronx. Further north is a Mobil in the median.

You've also got a few on the Grand Central Parkway.

Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: 1995hoo on May 17, 2017, 07:26:20 AM
I haven't been on the road since July 2010, but for as long as I can remember there was a gas station (a Mobil for most of my life) in the median of the Belt Parkway just west of the Flatbush Avenue interchange.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 17, 2017, 07:27:58 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 17, 2017, 07:26:20 AM
I haven't been on the road since July 2010, but for as long as I can remember there was a gas station (a Mobil for most of my life) in the median of the Belt Parkway just west of the Flatbush Avenue interchange.
Still there when I saw it a couple of months ago, even with all the construction going on.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: sbeaver44 on May 17, 2017, 07:29:32 AM
Do the waysides on Skyline Drive count?  They have food and gas and cannot be accessed from another road?

Also, Belt Pkwy near the Brooklyn-Queens line has another area similar to the Hutchison River Pkwy mentioned above and Grand Central Pkwy has one by LGA.

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Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: Scott5114 on May 17, 2017, 07:33:07 AM
The Cimarron, Muskogee (SH-351), and Indian Nation turnpikes in Oklahoma have them.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 17, 2017, 07:47:59 AM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 17, 2017, 07:29:32 AMAlso, Belt Pkwy near the Brooklyn-Queens line has another area similar to the Hutchison River Pkwy mentioned above and Grand Central Pkwy has one by LGA.

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Two of them actually. The third one is in the median west of Francis Lewis Boulevard.

Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: dgolub on May 17, 2017, 08:55:57 AM
The (unsigned) NJ 700 section of the New Jersey Turnpike has service areas.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: roadman on May 17, 2017, 09:45:58 AM
MA Route 24 at the I-495 interchange in Bridgewater/Raynham has service plazas.  The southbound plaza is located between the northbound and southbound ramps to I-495, the northbound plaza is located just beyond the northbound ramps.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: jp the roadgeek on May 17, 2017, 10:56:16 AM
CT just upgraded their service areas on CT 15 (Merritt/Wilbur Cross Parkways, ironically a de facto extension of the Hutch Parkway) to include Dunkin Donuts, Subway, and convenience stores as they did on I-95.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: plain on May 17, 2017, 12:09:47 PM
I know this one is on an interstate so it doesn't have anything to do with this thread but I have a question about it:

Maine Tpk's northernmost service plaza is located on ME 126 to the north of the northernmost toll booth on I-95 and the ramp to this has no reentry back to northbound... instead it forces people to utilize I-295 to access I-95 north again, subjecting drivers to the toll on I-295 between ME 126 and I-95. Vice versa for southbound traffic for I-95. Is there some kind of voucher or receipt or something where drivers can prove the toll was already paid or do drivers have to pay 2 tolls just to access the service area???

https://goo.gl/maps/ULhLJe8MWUB2
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: epzik8 on May 17, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Are you talking about full service plazas with food and gas? If so, that excludes the Bay Country Rest Area along U.S. 301 in Queen Anne's County, Maryland, the U.S. 301 Maryland welcome center in Charles County just off the Nice Bridge, the couple of U.S. 13 Maryland welcome centers, and a couple of other Maryland ones.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: DevalDragon on May 17, 2017, 12:30:50 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 17, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Are you talking about full service plazas with food and gas?

Yes. The type that are currently prohibited on Interstates that were not grandfathered in like the Maryland and Chesapeake Houses in Maryland.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: SP Cook on May 17, 2017, 01:11:13 PM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 17, 2017, 07:29:32 AM
Do the waysides on Skyline Drive count? 


I would think that all of those places along Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway would count.  They are government owned leased out ventures specifically aimed at those on the highway.    Natchez Trace does not operate that way, IIRC, directing people off the parkway to nearby commercial ventures. 

Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: 1995hoo on May 17, 2017, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: plain on May 17, 2017, 12:09:47 PM
I know this one is on an interstate so it doesn't have anything to do with this thread but I have a question about it:

Maine Tpk's northernmost service plaza is located on ME 126 to the north of the northernmost toll booth on I-95 and the ramp to this has no reentry back to northbound... instead it forces people to utilize I-295 to access I-95 north again, subjecting drivers to the toll on I-295 between ME 126 and I-95. Vice versa for southbound traffic for I-95. Is there some kind of voucher or receipt or something where drivers can prove the toll was already paid or do drivers have to pay 2 tolls just to access the service area???

https://goo.gl/maps/ULhLJe8MWUB2

Yes. We've discussed that plaza before. Here's one prior comment about how it works:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11396.msg271999#msg271999
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: sbeaver44 on May 17, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on May 17, 2017, 01:11:13 PM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 17, 2017, 07:29:32 AM
Do the waysides on Skyline Drive count? 


I would think that all of those places along Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway would count.  They are government owned leased out ventures specifically aimed at those on the highway.    Natchez Trace does not operate that way, IIRC, directing people off the parkway to nearby commercial ventures.
And that answers my other question, which was going to be if Blue Ridge has them as well.  I've done all of Skyline Drive but unfortunately only a small section of Blue Ridge Pkwy.

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Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: Beeper1 on May 17, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
There is a service plaza at the US-6 / MA-132 interchange in Barnstable on Cape Cod.  You enter it from MA-132, but it has direct ramps onto US-6 WB. 
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: slorydn1 on May 17, 2017, 10:55:12 PM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 17, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on May 17, 2017, 01:11:13 PM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 17, 2017, 07:29:32 AM
Do the waysides on Skyline Drive count? 


I would think that all of those places along Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway would count.  They are government owned leased out ventures specifically aimed at those on the highway.    Natchez Trace does not operate that way, IIRC, directing people off the parkway to nearby commercial ventures.
And that answers my other question, which was going to be if Blue Ridge has them as well.  I've done all of Skyline Drive but unfortunately only a small section of Blue Ridge Pkwy.

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Not really, not in the same sense that Skyline Drive has. There is one resturant/gift shop (Mabry Mill in Virginia) and a lodge close to the Waynesville/Balsam area of NC (the name of which I cannot seem to remember) and that's pretty much it. There are a couple of other lodges along the route, but these are not on the actual parkway right of way (there is another one in NC where we could have a debate if it's technically on the parkway or on the adjoining roadway but its not clear cut).

There is no gas on the parkway itself but there are several spots to jump off, get gas within a few minutes of the parkway and jump back on again.


I did the entire Skyline Drive/Blue Ridge Parkway/Smoky Mountains Parkway combo 2 years ago Memorial Day week. Front Royal VA all the way to Gatlinburg TN. The absolute best 2 days of laid back driving ever. You should try it sometime!
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: SP Cook on May 18, 2017, 09:38:39 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 17, 2017, 10:55:12 PM

Not really, not in the same sense that Skyline Drive has. There is one resturant/gift shop (Mabry Mill in Virginia) and a lodge close to the Waynesville/Balsam area of NC (the name of which I cannot seem to remember) and that's pretty much it. There are a couple of other lodges along the route, but these are not on the actual parkway right of way (there is another one in NC where we could have a debate if it's technically on the parkway or on the adjoining roadway but its not clear cut).

There is no gas on the parkway itself but there are several spots to jump off, get gas within a few minutes of the parkway and jump back on again.


Wow, I guess I am getting old.   There used to be.    A couple of places, and they had covered the pumps with wooden slats to make them look "natural" (maybe a replica pump from a previous era would have been a better idea).  IIRC it was full serve, and pretty expensive.  Probably went away when all the stuff about insurance for underground tanks hit back in the 90s.

I need to do a new road trip for that road.  Been over 20 years.

Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: bzakharin on May 18, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
Most service plazas around where I've been are on toll roads regardless of whether they are interstates. Obviously some listed in this thread are not toll roads, and there's the CT Turnpike which is no longer tolled (but is I-95).
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: cpzilliacus on May 19, 2017, 03:04:55 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 17, 2017, 10:55:12 PM
There is no gas on the parkway itself but there are several spots to jump off, get gas within a few minutes of the parkway and jump back on again.


I did the entire Skyline Drive/Blue Ridge Parkway/Smoky Mountains Parkway combo 2 years ago Memorial Day week. Front Royal VA all the way to Gatlinburg TN. The absolute best 2 days of laid back driving ever. You should try it sometime!

In the 1970's, there were gas stations (Amoco then) and small c-stores at regular intervals on the Blue Ridge Parkway.  Last time I drove all of it in the 1990's, all of that was gone. 
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on May 19, 2017, 03:06:30 PM
The merit parkway has a good number. I think there is also one on Mass 24.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: doorknob60 on May 19, 2017, 06:17:23 PM
Not really a "Service Plaza" (those don't really exist out west), but this is probably the closest thing to one out here, interstate or not. It's on US-95 in Idaho. It's signed as a "Rest Area" with the normal blue signage, but it's actually basically just a gas station. I didn't stop there myself so I'm not sure if they have any additional facilities, but it looked just like an Exxon station/C-Store driving by it. Unfortunately, GSV is too old and blurry in the area to get a better look.

Here is what ITD's website says about it:
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This rest area at milepost 278 has restrooms, drinking fountains, vending machines and a telephone. It is located at the junction of Winchester and U.S. 95 at Camas Express. This is a partnership between Camas Express, Nez Perce Tribe and ITD. Rest area users are not required to purchase items from Camas Express.

Here's where it is located: https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2401704,-116.583436,444m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: cpzilliacus on May 19, 2017, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on May 18, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
Most service plazas around where I've been are on toll roads regardless of whether they are interstates. Obviously some listed in this thread are not toll roads, and there's the CT Turnpike which is no longer tolled (but is I-95).

However, outside the U.S., service plazas similar to those mostly found on U.S. toll roads are quite common, even on "free" roads. 

Ontario has Highway Service Centres (http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/ontario-511/highway-service-centres.shtml) along Highways 400 and 401.  Quebec has service plazas called Aire de service (http://www.quebec511.info/en/Diffusion/Haltes/Default.aspx) along several Autoroute corridors.

Germany has them (https://tank.rast.de/en/) on its "free" [for passenger cars] Autobahn network. The Nordic nations have them on their motorway networks too.

Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: RobbieL2415 on May 19, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
Should the service areas on the NJ 700 portion of the NJTP count?
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: RobbieL2415 on May 19, 2017, 09:27:02 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 19, 2017, 03:06:30 PM
The merit parkway has a good number. I think there is also one on Mass 24.
What about the psudeo-service plaza at exit 6 on the Mid-Cape?  Or does that not count because its accessible from MA 134?
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: cl94 on May 19, 2017, 10:10:08 PM
How are we counting the one that opened last year just outside of Barre, VT (http://informationcenter.vermont.gov/centers/maplewood)?
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on May 19, 2017, 10:18:46 PM
Quote from: cl94 on May 19, 2017, 10:10:08 PM
How are we counting the one that opened last year just outside of Barre, VT (http://informationcenter.vermont.gov/centers/maplewood)?
It does say off of I-89.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: hotdogPi on May 19, 2017, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: cl94 on May 19, 2017, 10:10:08 PM
How are we counting the one that opened last year just outside of Barre, VT (http://informationcenter.vermont.gov/centers/maplewood)?

That's equivalent to getting off an exit and going to a store there, so no.
Title: Re: Non Interstate Service Plazas?
Post by: PHLBOS on May 22, 2017, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 19, 2017, 03:06:30 PM
I think there is also one on Mass 24.
Already mentioned; see Reply #11 on Page 1 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20292.0) of this thread.  There's actually two of them; one on each side of MA 24. 
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 19, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
Should the service areas on the NJ 700 portion of the NJTP count?
Yes & such has been already mentioned twice.  See Replies #2 & 10 on Page 1 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20292.0) of this thread.