Poll
Question:
What is your favorite type of soda?
Option 1: Coke
votes: 9
Option 2: Coke zero
votes: 5
Option 3: Diet coke
votes: 1
Option 4: Pepsi
votes: 3
Option 5: Diet Pepsi
votes: 6
Option 6: Mountain Dew
votes: 6
Option 7: Sprite
votes: 2
Option 8: Orange soda
votes: 2
Option 9: Dr. Pepper
votes: 11
Option 10: Other
votes: 16
Because everyone loves to talk about soft drinks.
Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, and Fanta probably are the top three for me.
Edit: IBC Root Beer is up there also.
Arm and Hammer. All of the choices given are for pop.
Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2017, 01:20:15 PM
Arm and Hammer. All of the choices given are for pop.
How is orange soda not a type of soda, with "soda" in the name?
I think there was a thread on the naming between "soda" and "pop".
Anyway, I don't drink any of them (too much sugar) but when I did, I just preferred Coke.
Coke is my favourite type of pop! :)
This is heresy for a Kentucky native to say, but my favorite is probably Vernors. I actually prefer it to Ale-8. Of course I typically drink the diet versions of both.
My normal drink of choice is Diet Coke. Over the years I have gotten accustomed to its taste. I don't like Coke Zero because it tastes too much like regular Coke, which is too sweet for me.
If forced to drink a Pepsi product, I will choose Diet Dr Pepper (which is typically distributed by Pepsi in my area; I know in some places it's distributed by Coke) or Diet Mountain Dew. Diet Pepsi is a vile, nasty substance which I will only consume if desperate and always under protest.
Occasionally and for a change of pace, I will get a diet version of Sprite, 7-Up, root beer or orange (usually Sunkist is what's most readily available).
San Pelligrino Blood Orange as SP hasn't given in to Jamie Oliver's war on sugar* and polluted its drinks with sweetners that I can't drink without problems, and, while I like the other flavours, Blood Orange is the most drinkable. There's a couple of others that still haven't fallen to Fatty's Nannying - CocaCola (their UK webpage used to say that the spiking wouldn't alter the taste, and then on the same page said that red-Coke is not being done as it changes the taste. Sadly they spotted that and fixed it) and IrnBru. But pretty much everything else went - Fever Tree mixers, I guess, but given they mostly make tonic water, I'm not treating them as soft drinks as I'm normally mixing it with gin.
They've even spiked Lucozade, replacing half the sugar with aspartame - a drink who's selling point used to be that it was a glucose-ladened 'Sports Drink' (and before that sold in chemists as a medical product aiding recovery from illness) FFS! Diabetics used it to recover from hypoglycema. When they introduced diet Lucozade, everyone laughed and it bombed, because it missed the point.
Every drink had diet/max/zero varieties with no sugar anyway, and some even had 'half-and-half' reduced calories. Now there's no real choice for almost everything: either half-and-half or all sweetners. There's no "no sweeteners" varieties.
And this war on sugar has meant that some quacks are declaring war on fruit - I can understand "don't overdo fruit juice" as a message, but that became a mainstream "don't drink fruit juice other than very rarely" (dentists had been somewhat opposed for a while, but then the obesity police chimed in) and now there's an increasing "don't eat fruit" message that is just harmful.
*it's like he has shares in sucralose or aspartame production. Until you read his recipe books and realise that podgy-Jamie doesn't practise what he preaches there.
Quote from: english si on May 20, 2017, 06:31:28 PM
Every drink had diet/max/zero varieties with no sugar anyway, and some even had 'half-and-half' reduced calories. Now there's no real choice for almost everything: either half-and-half or all sweetners. There's no "no sweeteners" varieties.
The gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Since we're going to be nit picky on soda vs pop terminology... :)
Favorite type of soda is cola, with vanilla colas being a close second, and fruit-flavored a third (cherry, grape, orange).
Favorite brand of soda is Coca-Cola, followed by Dr Pepper, then Pepsi if there's no other alternative.
Diet Cherry 7-Up.
My choice is now listed as "Dr. Pepper". I chose Other.
Several choices in the poll aren't avalaible in my country. These include Mountain Dew, Sprite, orange soda, and Dr. Pepper.
That being said, I like Coke and Pepsi equally, as they taste different to each other.
Generally I'll go for Diet Pepsi. Diet Coke if they don't have that. Sometimes diet root beer instead (IBC if I buy it at the store, usually Barq's if I see it at a fast-food place).
I drink the diet stuff because the regular is simply too sweet for my taste. I will buy regular if I need it for something, such as a barbecue sauce recipe that calls for regular Coke.
I used to drink Mountain Dew for many years until I ended up in the ER by ambulance due to a high heart rate (132 beats per minute) and skipping beats in 2014. Turns out I was having random bouts of Sinus Tachycardia and Premature Ventricular Contractions, though not always at the same time. I still deal with PVC's, but not as often as I used to. They're still a bitch when they hit, though.
They told me I needed to quit caffeine and so I did, cold turkey. I tried the caffeine free version of Mountain Dew and it tasted like shit to me so I gave up Mountain Dew altogether. Now I just drink water and fruit juices, with some V8 here and there.
Quote from: LM117 on May 21, 2017, 08:49:58 AM
I used to drink Mountain Dew for many years until I ended up in the ER by ambulance due to a high heart rate (132 beats per minute) and skipping beats in 2014. Turns out I was having random bouts of Sinus Tachycardia and Premature Ventricular Contractions, though not always at the same time. I still deal with PVC's, but not as often as I used to. They're still a bitch when they hit, though.
They told me I needed to quit caffeine and so I did, cold turkey. I tried the caffeine free version of Mountain Dew and it tasted like shit to me so I gave up Mountain Dew altogether. Now I just drink water and fruit juices, with some V8 here and there.
As healthy as they seem to be, you gotta watch the V8s. They are high in sodium which will boost up the blood pressure.
I stopped drinking soda a few years ago and lost 25 lbs in a few months... I drank a lot of soda.
I will occaisionally have a fountain drink soda, because they are cheap. But i have recently started drinking sparkling water with lemon flavor...
Artificial sweeteners are horrible for your health
LGMS428
Quote from: jwolfer on May 21, 2017, 11:48:42 AM
I stopped drinking soda a few years ago and lost 25 lbs in a few months... I drank a lot of soda.
I will occaisionally have a fountain drink soda, because they are cheap. But i have recently started drinking sparkling water with lemon flavor...
Artificial sweeteners are horrible for your health
LGMS428
I rarely get a chance to drink it, but when I have the chance, multiple cups are getting drunk.
I like Mello Yello, but you can't get it around here anymore. Just like a lot of things.
These days, I usually only drink soda at meals. I ignored the dentist's Allowed Cloud that ordered me to stop drinking it altogether.
I don't drink soda, or any carbonated drinks of any kind. Personally not a fan on the carbonation part of it.
Sodium Bicarbonate. :bigass: Yes, that is baking soda, if you were wondering. I don't drink soda, and a somewhat funny story to go with. So, in first grade I had this gym teacher. She was very friendly, and made gym fun with games such as, get this, toilet tag. Anyway, she was telling everyone about how soda is all bad. Most everyone else proceeded to ignore her, but not me. The only time I've drunken soda since was when I was at a Chili's and accidentally drunk a sip of my brother's Sprite, thinking it was my water.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on May 21, 2017, 03:29:06 PM
I don't drink soda, or any carbonated drinks of any kind. Personally not a fan on the carbonation part of it.
Same with me, but my choice suddenly got changed to "Dr. Pepper" (probably due to an addition in the poll), and I have no way to change it.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on May 21, 2017, 03:29:06 PM
I don't drink soda, or any carbonated drinks of any kind. Personally not a fan on the carbonation part of it.
I'm the opposite. I like the carbonation. That's why I'm not a fan of plain water. It doesn't have the fizz.
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Quote from: LM117 on May 21, 2017, 08:49:58 AM
I used to drink Mountain Dew for many years until I ended up in the ER by ambulance due to a high heart rate (132 beats per minute) and skipping beats in 2014. Turns out I was having random bouts of Sinus Tachycardia and Premature Ventricular Contractions, though not always at the same time. I still deal with PVC's, but not as often as I used to. They're still a bitch when they hit, though.
They told me I needed to quit caffeine and so I did, cold turkey. I tried the caffeine free version of Mountain Dew and it tasted like shit to me so I gave up Mountain Dew altogether. Now I just drink water and fruit juices, with some V8 here and there.
As healthy as they seem to be, you gotta watch the V8s. They are high in sodium which will boost up the blood pressure.
I drink the low sodium version. Luckily, I've never had blood pressure problems. -knock on wood-
https://www.campbells.com/v8/vegetable-juice/low-sodium-v8/ (https://www.campbells.com/v8/vegetable-juice/low-sodium-v8/)
Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
They cause cancer for real or is this just a dumb conspiracy theory?
The Wife had to give up all pop a few years ago for health reasons, and I decided to go cold turkey then too. (Unfortunately, I still eat enough other crap that I haven't lost any weight.) My beverage of choice was a fine Mountain Dew, er, Mtn Dew. I wasn't drinking any of this sludge for the taste or the bubbles; I wanted sugar and caffeine.
I love Coke because number one, it's older and more of an American classic, and number two, my favorite NASCAR driver Joey Logano is in the "Coca-Cola Racing Family".
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
They cause cancer for real or is this just a dumb conspiracy theory?
They actually do, and they are a gluten hazard.
Soda is not my first choice to drink (if good iced tea is available, especially with some lemonade, I'll take that every time), but Diet Mountain Dew is my choice. My doctor wanted me to cut back on soda altogether, so I try not to drink more than one 12-oz can a day, and on weekends, a lot of times I don't drink any.
IBC Diet Root Beer though...yum
I may have mentioned this in the "soda vs. pop" thread, but Coke Cherry Zero is my drink of choice for caffeinated drinks; if I'm going for something later at night and wish to avoid caffeine, it's a tossup between Fresca Black Cherry and Diet Canada Dry ginger ale. Just grateful that Safeway or Smart & Final has regular sales on 12-packs!
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
They cause cancer for real or is this just a dumb conspiracy theory?
They cause cancer in lab rats if you feed them about 20 pounds a day of the stuff. As far as humans go with normal consumption, most likely not.
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
They cause cancer for real or is this just a dumb conspiracy theory?
They cause cancer in lab rats if you feed them about 20 pounds a day of the stuff. As far as humans go with normal consumption, most likely not.
Ah, someone else who remembers sodium cyclamate. (Look it up, you young whippersnappers.) In one study, they fed enough to lab rats to get cancer - the equivalent of drinking 550 cans of diet pop.
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
They cause cancer for real or is this just a dumb conspiracy theory?
They cause cancer in lab rats if you feed them about 20 pounds a day of the stuff. As far as humans go with normal consumption, most likely not.
Ah, someone else who remembers sodium cyclamate. (Look it up, you young whippersnappers.) In one study, they fed enough to lab rats to get cancer - the equivalent of drinking 550 cans of diet pop.
550 cans? Did the math; over a hot summer, that's probably not too far from my consumption from May through October (we tend to get "Indian Summer" around these parts in mid-fall). If I suddenly stop posting, you'll all have an inkling why (burp!)!!! :ded:
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
They cause cancer for real or is this just a dumb conspiracy theory?
They cause cancer in lab rats if you feed them about 20 pounds a day of the stuff. As far as humans go with normal consumption, most likely not.
Ah, someone else who remembers sodium cyclamate. (Look it up, you young whippersnappers.) In one study, they fed enough to lab rats to get cancer - the equivalent of drinking 550 cans of diet pop.
550 cans? Did the math; over a hot summer, that's probably not too far from my consumption from May through October (we tend to get "Indian Summer" around these parts in mid-fall). If I suddenly stop posting, you'll all have an inkling why (burp!)!!! :ded:
Well, from Wikipedia, it's 550 cans
per day, so you should be okay (at least for cancer, anyway) :nod:. Though 550 cans over 6 months is a lot of pop...
Quote from: WikipediaThe released study was showing that eight out of 240 rats fed a mixture of saccharin and cyclamates, at levels of humans ingesting 550 cans of diet soda per day, developed bladder tumors.
I like Vernors, but it's hard to find it out west.
I like the taste of Mexican Coke (Coca-Cola, that is), and Pepsi -- not as much carbonation and a tad sweeter than the US equivalents.
One of my favorites of the past was Josta (a Pepsi Product)
Nowadays, I tend to lean towards the non-carbonated (Gator/Power-ade, Sobe, Lemonade -- and Hi-C orange while McDonalds still has it on tap) or water.
Quote from: thenetwork on May 22, 2017, 11:31:34 PM
I like Vernors, but it's hard to find it out west.
Actually, here in Arizona it is readily available.
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Well, from Wikipedia, it's 550 cans per day, so you should be okay (at least for cancer, anyway) :nod:. Though 550 cans over 6 months is a lot of pop...
I dehydrate easily (side effect of hypotension), the tap water around here sucks (hard as a rock! -- and Brita filtering only helps out a bit), and bottled water hardly seems worth the trouble & expense -- may as well get a bit of flavor (and some occasionally needed caffeine) with it.
BTW, Vernors is available out here in CA -- you've just got to look a little!
For the history fans among us:
https://www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com/brands/vernors
Quote from: thenetwork on May 22, 2017, 11:31:34 PM
I like Vernors, but it's hard to find it out west.
Do you have Kroger or affiliated stores? (ISTR that Albertson's is a Kroger brand) The bigger Kroger stores in my area carry Vernors.
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Quote from: thenetwork on May 22, 2017, 11:31:34 PM
I like Vernors, but it's hard to find it out west.
Do you have Kroger or affiliated stores? (ISTR that Albertson's is a Kroger brand) The bigger Kroger stores in my area carry Vernors.
In western Colorado (including Grand Junction) there is City Market. The more urbanized eastern part of the state has King Soopers.
I'll just have to look around again a little harder. The only time I remember seeing Vernor's in recent times was in a 12-16 oz glass bottle in one of those specialty candy & soda POP shops. (At $3, it was a little steep IMO).
I'm originally from Northern Ohio, and when I used to visit relatives in the Metro Detroit area, Vernor's was everywhere, like Faygo. Maybe I should rephrase my original post and say it's not as easy to find large quantities of Vernor's in one spot as in the Midwest.
/And yes, I have traveled along Vernor Highway in Detroit a few times in my life!!!
Vernors may be hard to find, but Faygo is everywhere.
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Vernors may be hard to find, but Faygo is everywhere.
OK, I'm a naive Californian. WTF is Faygo?????
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Vernors may be hard to find, but Faygo is everywhere.
OK, I'm a naive Californian. WTF is Faygo?????
Faygo is a Detroit-based soda pop comany that is similar to Shasta -- multiple flavors and usually found in Dollar Stores as.the equivalent to higher-priced.Coke.& Pepsi.products .
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Vernors may be hard to find, but Faygo is everywhere.
OK, I'm a naive Californian. WTF is Faygo?????
Faygo is a Detroit-based soda pop comany that is similar to Shasta -- multiple flavors and usually found in Dollar Stores as.the equivalent to higher-priced.Coke.& Pepsi.products .
Yeah.......Shasta used to be ubiquitous out here, but it seems most major market chains are pushing their own house brands (likely Shasta bottles some of those as well!), so the actual Shasta brand can usually be found in such "bargain" retailers like Grocery Outlet and, occasionally, Smart & Final. I remember when I was a kid spending summers in Sacramento, Raley's stocked just about every Shasta flavor known to humankind! If it grew on a tree or a bush, Shasta probably had it as a soda flavor!
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
They cause cancer for real or is this just a dumb conspiracy theory?
Don't know if they've done specific studies regarding artificial sweeteners in gum, but I do recall the research about artificial sweeteners in soda (pop). While studies on lab mice showed a link between artificial sweeteners and cancer, it was determined that, based on the dosage the mice were fed, an adult would have to drink approximately 500 cans of Diet Coke a day for about 40 years for the same effects to show up. Of course, if you drank that much soda (pop), the eventual cancer would be the least of your health problems.
Yet another example of medical "science" proving what they want to prove by skewing the conditions of the study.
Haven't we recently had this discussion elsewhere?
I'd rather have ice tea: 2/3 unsweet, 1/3 sweet and NO HFCS
Quote from: US71 on May 25, 2017, 11:48:49 PM
Haven't we recently had this discussion elsewhere?
I'd rather have ice tea: 2/3 unsweet, 1/3 sweet and NO HFCS
I like it 1/2 sweet, 1/2 unsweet. The balance makes it perfect.
I never see Vernors at our Kroger, but apparently the one that's 10 miles out of town where nobody lives has it.
Another thing Kroger doesn't have much of anymore is bubble gum. The kinds they have are full of cancer-causing artificial sweeteners.
If we're talking strictly soda, my favorite's Diet Mountain Dew Code Red.
But as for my favorite drink, I've got to agree with Backlin: Cold tea, 2/3 unsweet, 1/3 sweet, with no HFCS.
A revision on my earlier post:
One of my local grocers does have Vernors -- albeit in a 12-pack of cans -- in a single row on a low shelf in the beverage aisle. Might explain how I missed it, I remember more prominent displays in Ohio.
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Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2017, 07:46:00 PMThe gum business has gotten really bad with this.
Gum went sugar-free not because of anti-obesity drives, but because of the branding as something good for teeth.
But these artificial sweeteners cause cancer. I'd rather have cavities than cancer.
The amount you'd have to drink in a lifetime to cause you cancer would also kill you if it fell on top of you.
Shasta was popular in my area when I was a teenager but I don't recall seeing it lately.
Sheetz carries a lot of different Faygo flavors in its coolers for individual sale.
As for Vernors ... my cousin from Michigan (who, incidentally, works on the Lake Michigan US 10 ferry) brought me four six-packs of Diet Vernors in the bottles this weekend. I prefer it in bottles vs. cans, and cans are the only way I can get it around here.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 30, 2017, 10:54:42 AM
Shasta was popular in my area when I was a teenager but I don't recall seeing it lately.
Sheetz carries a lot of different Faygo flavors in its coolers for individual sale.
As for Vernors ... my cousin from Michigan (who, incidentally, works on the Lake Michigan US 10 ferry) brought me four six-packs of Diet Vernors in the bottles this weekend. I prefer it in bottles vs. cans, and cans are the only way I can get it around here.
Shasta is fairly common at dollar stores around here.
Jarritos Pineapple, Sidral Mundet and Mexican Coke
Quote from: bandit957 on May 26, 2017, 07:21:54 PM
I never see Vernors at our Kroger, but apparently the one that's 10 miles out of town where nobody lives has it.
Another thing Kroger doesn't have much of anymore is bubble gum. The kinds they have are full of cancer-causing artificial sweeteners.
Check Atwoods
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on May 21, 2017, 04:56:25 AM
Several choices in the poll aren't avalaible in my country. These include Mountain Dew, Sprite, orange soda, and Dr. Pepper.
FTFM, as I've found Mountain Dew is avalaible in this part of the world. I seem to recall Sprite is also present, though I cannot confirm now. No orange soda or Dr. Pepper, though.
IMHO,
- My go to is Coke Zero. I gave up sugared pop about 15 years ago and never could develop a taste for Diet Coke. When they came out with Coke Zero, it was great for me.
- There is an internet rumor going around that the CCC is doing away with Zero and launching a new product called Coca-Cola No Sugar. Lots of weird internet crap.
- The green bottled version of Coke, which uses Stevia, tastes like iodine. Vile.
- I can tell the difference in Dr Pepper bottled by Pepsi and Dr Pepper bottled by either Coke or by an independent bottler. Pop marketing rights are generally county by county and there are two areas near enough to me that I go through every now and then and I will buy the independent Dr Pepper to stock up.
- The artificial sweeteners are bad for you ho-ha is just like most junk science. Flawed research methods and extremist agendas.
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IMHO,
- My go to is Coke Zero. I gave up sugared pop about 15 years ago and never could develop a taste for Diet Coke. When they came out with Coke Zero, it was great for me.
- There is an internet rumor going around that the CCC is doing away with Zero and launching a new product called Coca-Cola No Sugar. Lots of weird internet crap.
- The green bottled version of Coke, which uses Stevia, tastes like iodine. Vile.
- I can tell the difference in Dr Pepper bottled by Pepsi and Dr Pepper bottled by either Coke or by an independent bottler. Pop marketing rights are generally county by county and there are two areas near enough to me that I go through every now and then and I will buy the independent Dr Pepper to stock up.
- The artificial sweeteners are bad for you ho-ha is just like most junk science. Flawed research methods and extremist agendas.
Don't all cokes have sugar?
I'm not a fan of sodas in general and drink maybe 2 a year, if that.
When I have them, usually cream soda. They remind me of my first girlfriend who drank them a lot and sometime I'd have one to keep her company. No special brand, just local microbrews that make it with sugar instead of artificial sweetener.
Otherwise, sometimes root beer, mostly because of the root beer scene in Star Trek Deep Space 9, or for root beer floats.
And sometimes Mexican coke. Beats me why they don't make that formula in the states too, lots of people seem to prefer it.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 09, 2017, 12:51:32 PMDon't all cokes have sugar?
Only red- and green-labels, assuming you are in a place where they use sugar rather than HFCS. Grey- and Black-labels are two different sugar-free varieties.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 09, 2017, 12:51:32 PM
Don't all cokes have sugar?
No. Diet versions have artificial sweeteners. That is why they are diet.
(note, this is USA information, the formulas are differents elsewhere)
Regular Coca-Cola really does not contain sugar. Rather they use high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) which (warning some people will disagree) tastes and is metabolized just like sugar. In the USA, tax laws (remember Iowa's importance in both parties' primary elections) make HFCS less expensive. (Same reason there is corn liquor in gasoline). The people that disagree caused first the gray market and then official importing of "Mexican Coca-Cola" which really contains sugar. This was because Mexico taxed HFCS and sugar in a way that made HFCS too expesive, the opposite of the USA. The Mexicans changed their laws a couple of year ago and now Coca-Cola there has HFCS, but they still make a sugar version for export to the USA. Generally this is sold in the traditonal glass bottles at a high markup.
Diet Coke is sweetened with Aspertame, which was sold under the brand name "Nutra Sweet" until the patent ran out.
Some places sell Diet Coke With Splenda. Splenda is the brand name of sucralose, which is another artificial sweetener. The "ribbon" on this product is yellow rather than white.
Coca-Cola Zero is sweetened with Aspertame and Acesulfame Potassium (also known as "ACE-K") another artificial sweetener.
Coca-Cola Life, AKA "green Coke" is part sugar and part Stevia leaf extract. Stevia is a plant that is grown in South America. This is sold in green packaging. IMHO, it tastes nothing like sugar at all. This is generally out to get the people who fall for the junk science that "natural" = healthy.
Quote from: SP Cook on June 09, 2017, 11:46:53 AM
- My go to is Coke Zero. I gave up sugared pop about 15 years ago and never could develop a taste for Diet Coke. When they came out with Coke Zero, it was great for me.
- There is an internet rumor going around that the CCC is doing away with Zero and launching a new product called Coca-Cola No Sugar. Lots of weird internet crap.
That is true, it's starting in Australia for now.
The Diet Coke with Splenda tastes nothing like normal Diet Coke, and is very hard to find.
The Stevia Coke is just awful.
There is also "Kosher Coke," sold around the time of Passover, that I believe is the same as the Mexican stuff. You can identify it by the yellow bottle cap with Hebrew characters. I'm not Jewish and I'm not motivated enough to look up all the details, but from what I recall, there are certain Jewish sects that do not consider corn products kosher for Passover and therefore they won't drink normal US-spec Coke at that time, so the company makes a version with sugar to try to retain their business (sort of like McDonald's introducing the Filet-o-Fish to retain Catholic business on Fridays during Lent).
Blenheim's Ginger Ale (red-cap) would probably be my absolute favorite. Red Rock and Buffalo Rock make a decent substitute, as Blenheim's is a rare find.
Ale-81 is pretty good too...it makes me wonder how Mountain Dew became popular, and this didn't.
Dr. Pepper would be my favorite mainstream soda. The 8-ounce bottles with pure-sugar are even better.
Quote from: inkyatari on May 31, 2017, 09:01:53 AM
Jarritos Pineapple
Not bad, I tend to pick up a can or two when I'm in Miami. Something different.
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 09, 2017, 07:13:45 PM
There is also "Kosher Coke," sold around the time of Passover, that I believe is the same as the Mexican stuff.
I used to pick this up at Publix when they have it, but it always seems to be a tad less carbonated than Mexicoke, in my unofficial opinion.
Quote from: formulanone on June 09, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
Ale-81 is pretty good too...it makes me wonder how Mountain Dew became popular, and this didn't.
It was pretty much intended to be a regional (very regional, as originally only a handful of Kentucky counties had it) drink. They're increasing their distribution, however, as Cracker Barrel carries it with their specialty soft drinks and a few grocery stores chains have started carrying it.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 09, 2017, 08:23:48 PM
Quote from: formulanone on June 09, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
Ale-81 is pretty good too...it makes me wonder how Mountain Dew became popular, and this didn't.
It was pretty much intended to be a regional (very regional, as originally only a handful of Kentucky counties had it) drink. They're increasing their distribution, however, as Cracker Barrel carries it with their specialty soft drinks and a few grocery stores chains have started carrying it.
Atwoods sells it here
Quote from: formulanone on June 09, 2017, 07:38:29 PM
Ale-81 is pretty good too...it makes me wonder how Mountain Dew became popular, and this didn't.
Dr. Pepper would be my favorite mainstream soda. The 8-ounce bottles with pure-sugar are even better.
Because Ale-81 is terrible. I always thought it tasted like Vick's Vapo Rub smelled, if that makes any sense.
But Dr. Pepper was my vote in this thread, just because I love it so much. Diet or regular, doesn't matter. I like them both. I got a chance to try the cane sugar version once, and that was heaven on my tongue.
Ale-8-1 is decent. Once in a great while, you see it in northern Kentucky, but not very often. I don't think our Kroger has it. They might have it occasionally, like they do with Dubble Bubble.
Anyone remember the radio commercial for Ale-8-1 in the late '80s/early '90s? It used to air on the old WLAP-FM in Lexington, which you could pick up almost in Cincinnati.
If you don't remember this ad, it's because you didn't listen to WLAP-FM.
Quote from: thenetwork on June 09, 2017, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on June 09, 2017, 11:46:53 AM
- My go to is Coke Zero. I gave up sugared pop about 15 years ago and never could develop a taste for Diet Coke. When they came out with Coke Zero, it was great for me.
- There is an internet rumor going around that the CCC is doing away with Zero and launching a new product called Coca-Cola No Sugar. Lots of weird internet crap.
That is true, it's starting in Australia for now.
In Canada, they've changed it to Coca-Cola Zero Sugar (as opposed to just Coca-Cola Zero).
For some reason, this thread has prompted me to remember back 35 to 40 years ago when we'd go to Brooklyn to visit our grandparents and they always had cans of C&C Cola. I don't ever remember seeing that stuff in the DC area and I doubt I've had it since the late 1980s. I seem to recall they had a TV commercial where they had some sort of bike horn that kept honking every time they mentioned competitors' names, I assume because in the 1970s it was still customary for the most part to refer to "Brand X" or whatever instead of naming competitors. I'd look for their commercials online except my wife is dozing on the couch here and I don't want to wake her up playing old adverts!
I gave up soda and iced tea about 25 years ago, when I decided coffee would be my caffeine provider. I will occasionally have a 7-Up, less often a Coke. I preferred Coke to Pepsi because I felt it had more "bite" to it. I also enjoyed cream soda.
I loved root beer as a child, and around 15 or so I completely lost my taste for it.
Quote from: DTComposer on June 09, 2017, 10:47:19 PM
I gave up soda and iced tea about 25 years ago, when I decided coffee would be my caffeine provider. I will occasionally have a 7-Up, less often a Coke. I preferred Coke to Pepsi because I felt it had more "bite" to it. I also enjoyed cream soda.
I loved root beer as a child, and around 15 or so I completely lost my taste for it.
I tried 7-Up- cannot see what is good about it.
7-Up was better when it was sweeter. They changed the formula some years ago to make it more tart and it wasn't the same. I pretty much avoid it entirely now.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 10, 2017, 04:05:57 AM
7-Up was better when it was sweeter. They changed the formula some years ago to make it more tart and it wasn't the same. I pretty much avoid it entirely now.
Sierra Mist is worse, IMO
In one of my marketing courses at Penn State, we went through a detailed dissection of the development and launch of Diet Coke in 1982. Much of the material focused on the new drink's relationship with the Coca-Cola Company's first diet cola, Tab.
Coca-Cola Company execs were keen to tap a new low-calorie soft drink market that was exploding in the early '60s, but they were afraid of having their precious name on anything other than "the real thing" . So they had a computer kick out thousands of meaningless four-letter combinations. One that caught their eye was TABB, which they shortened to TAB. The primary sweetener is (or was) either saccharin or cyclamate depending on which of the two wasn't banned in your country at the time of purchase.
To the best of my knowledge, I had never heard of Tab before that marketing course, nor had I ever seen or tasted one. (In retrospect, the Tab joke in Back to the Future had gone right over my head.) Then by chance, I stumbled upon a 12-pack of Tab cans in a grocery store and had to satisfy my curiosity.
Later at home, I opened the first can and took a sip. It was the most vile beverage I'd ever tasted. But I'm loath to waste anything, so I finished the can. And though it became a little less disgusting with each successive sip, I definitely didn't like it.
The remaining eleven cans sat in my refrigerator for few weeks before I finally decided that I should finish them off. I opened can #2, and inexplicably, I LOVED it. And I have loved Tab ever since. OK, maybe "love" is overstating it, but I at least like it, and since I've never seen another human being drinking a Tab outside of people I've given one to (plus Steve Martin in The Jerk), Tab–out of all soft drinks–feels most like my own.
That said, I drink maybe a couple per month at most. The link between saccharin and cancer is weak at best, but I'd rather my body not be saturated with it. And as years pass, I find there are many things I'd rather drink than soda.
Then too, Tab is hard to find because, though it remains an official Coca-Cola Company product, many Coke bottlers (perhaps the vast majority) don't make it. Hence if you're in the territory of a Coke bottler that still makes Tab, it will be reliably available at almost every grocery store. And if you're not, you won't find it at all. When I lived in California, the San Francisco area bottler didn't make it, but I could buy it in the Reno/Tahoe area or in Los Angeles, so I'd bring back several cases on road trips.
- Kosher Coke. Hard to find outside places with a significant Jewish population. I have seen it at Jungle Jim's in Cincinnati, which is a good source for lots of foreign, throwback, and off-beat food products.
- Ale-8-One has a very detailed map of who sells it where on its website.
https://ale8one.com/sales/
- TAB. Not wanting to diminish the flagship brand's name with a diet version is why it is Lite (from Miller). After the success of that deal, A-B fretted for a while, unwilling to call something "Bud Light", launching instead "Natural Light from Anheauser-Busch". When that did not take they launched Bud Light and repurposed Natural Light, whose original marketing pitch was very upscale, as a cheapo beer for hard drinkers. Which brings me to TAB. Old guy mode on, TAB, before there was Diet Coke, was, umm, the diet version of Coke. It was, as Coke Zero is today, an attempt to make something that tasted as much like Coke as possible, given the artificial sweeteners of the times. Diet Coke is not. It is, more or less, Diet New Coke, the same flavoring formula as the marketing fiasco of all time. As sweeteners advanced, there is a group who grew up on saccharin and like the taste. Probably as those people (mostly women who were in their teens and 20s in the 60s and 70s) age out, the product will go away.
-7-UP. 7-UP used to be a good product. They changed the formula about 10 years ago (at least in the USA, oddly both 7-UP and Dr Pepper have split ownership, with the US company only owning Dr Pepper in the USA and about 20 other countries, and the CCC owning it everywhere else, and 7-UP only in the USA, with PepsiCo owning it everywhere else, where, AFAIK, they still use the old formula).
Quote from: SP Cook on June 10, 2017, 04:42:49 PM
As sweeteners advanced, there is a group who grew up on saccharin and like the taste. Probably as those people (mostly women who were in their teens and 20s in the 60s and 70s) age out, the product will go away.
I have to disagree with your assessment of the Tab market. There may be a few Barbies who have been drinking Tab and smoking Virginia Slims ever since the Johnson administration, but if for no other reason than lack of product availability, I think most of these original users switched to Diet Coke or something else years ago.
Perhaps my view is skewed by my surroundings, but in my occasional searches for Tab over the years, most other Tab aficionados I've encountered could be best described as eccentric or "alternative" . People who engage in performance art, people who drive Peugeots, Neil Hamburger fans... These seem to be the type of people who will go out of their way to buy an odd-tasting beverage which may or may not be a carcinogen.
I'll drink Tab before I touch Dr Pepper or any of its clones (Mr Pibb, etc)
I also have a nice set of Tab glasses (as well as 7UP) :coffee:
There was an ice cream parlor in my hometown that had Tab on their menu into the mid-1990s. In 1992 or so, a friend of mine asked for one and they didn't have it.
Saw it in stores here in the last few years, though (upstate NY).
There was a Simpsons episode in which a character drank Tab, to create a less than manly image.
Tab even tried to join in on the Crystal Pepsi craze
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3510%2F3987454368_1f8709402c.jpg&hash=f91f2e43706af1b4ab0e8e93dded0799b4e6aafa)
Another variation of the lemon/lime soda family I remember as a kid was Teem. Never saw it in stores, but some restaurants carried it.
Quote from: kkt on June 10, 2017, 06:18:35 PM
There was a Simpsons episode in which a character drank Tab, to create a less than manly image.
Then there is Homer ordering a Tab after not finding the "any" key.
My brother is a fan of Tab. It is, indeed, hard to find these days.
We have it here in Iowa. It was also common in Minnesota back when I lived there. It seems to be pretty popular in this little region of the country.
Tab--> My only memory of Tab was as a child in the 1970's taking a sip from my mom's can. I think I would rather drink cod liver oil before ever trying another sip of Tab ever again.
In other threads I joked about the Pepsi vs Coke thing as I live in the birthplace of Pepsi. My office is a mere 3 blocks from the actual spot. I trully am ambivalent about either cola, I can drink either one. I think Pepsi tastes slightly better than Coke, my little brother disagrees.
----BUT-------
My actual favorite "soda" (or pop for our midwestern friends) is non other than Publix in-house brand Black Cherry soda, with a close second to their brand of Cream soda. Now that we actually have a Publix in our town it brings back memories of all of those trips to Florida as a child, and all the Black Cherry I consumed on the beach during Christmas break every year.
Apparently there are no other New Englanders willing to weigh in on Moxie. You can still get it in other parts of the country, but New England, and Upstate NY seems to be where it is most popular.
Quote from: Conn. Roads on June 11, 2017, 12:33:48 AM
Apparently there are no other New Englanders willing to weigh in on Moxie. You can still get it in other parts of the country, but New England, and Upstate NY seems to be where it is most popular.
I tried Moxie once. It was different, but it was OK.
Quote from: Conn. Roads on June 11, 2017, 12:33:48 AM
Apparently there are no other New Englanders willing to weigh in on Moxie. You can still get it in other parts of the country, but New England, and Upstate NY seems to be where it is most popular.
I weighed in on Moxie in the Least Favorite Type of Soda thread...
Quote from: Conn. Roads on June 11, 2017, 12:33:48 AM
Apparently there are no other New Englanders willing to weigh in on Moxie. You can still get it in other parts of the country, but New England, and Upstate NY seems to be where it is most popular.
I hate Moxie, and in Southern New England, I rarely ever see it.
Quote from: Conn. Roads on June 11, 2017, 12:33:48 AM
Apparently there are no other New Englanders willing to weigh in on Moxie. You can still get it in other parts of the country, but New England, and Upstate NY seems to be where it is most popular.
I really like Moxie. I've always heard about it, and when we went up to Maine for the first time a couple of years ago I finally got to try it. Since that time I've found they sell it in the glass bottle 4 packs (for a considerable premium, and from a Washington state specialty soda bottler) sometimes at Christmas Tree Shops if I recall, and I used to get it there occasionally.
Last year we went back to Maine, and this time I filled the back of my car with 12 packs of canned Moxie and Diet Moxie. I still have some in the garage and I ration it out until we get back up that way to stock up. It's too expensive to ship (and I'm not that obsessed). There is also a bottler out in Catawissa PA that makes it. We go out that way to see the in-laws periodically, but I still haven't found it in any local places (I think it's more distributed from Harrisburg up north).
As for my favorite - that would be Diet Dr. Pepper. Even better in a 44oz cup from Wawa's new Freestyle machines with cherry vanilla. I could probably go for a continuous IV drip or keg of diet soda all day, and will no doubt pay the price when they find out how bad Aspartame really is. I switched to diet years ago, and now regular high-test tastes too sweet for me. TAB was mentioned above, and at my previous company there was a woman who brought cases of it in and put it in one of the company soda machines. Every once in awhile we would walk to the other end of the building and have a TAB. Not all that great, but it brought the 80s back for a moment.
You will all be pleased to know that today I discovered that our friendly neighborhood Kroger does carry Ale-8-1 in glass bottles (but not any other type of container, if such a thing exists).
Quote from: bandit957 on June 13, 2017, 10:22:08 PM
You will all be pleased to know that today I discovered that our friendly neighborhood Kroger does carry Ale-8-1 in glass bottles (but not any other type of container, if such a thing exists).
Ale-8 can be purchased in 12-ounce returnable glass bottles, 12-ounce nonreturnable glass bottles, 20-ounce plastic bottles and 12-ounce cans.
Diet Ale-8 is available in the latter three versions (the classic returnable bottles are only for regular Ale-8 and there are people who swear that the liquid in the returnables tastes better than the liquid in the nonreturnable bottles.)
Caffeine Free Diet Ale-8 is also available, and I think it comes only in cans and nonreturnable bottles. I've never seen it in 20-ounce plastic bottles.
Cokes from glass bottles always taste better than cans, plastic bottles, or a fountain. That's why they charge more for the glass bottles.
And...don't forget to put peanuts in the glass bottles of Coke.
Quote from: cjk374 on June 14, 2017, 06:27:38 AM
And...don't forget to put peanuts in the glass bottles of Coke.
I have never heard this. Guess there's something for me to try next time.
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Quote from: cjk374 on June 14, 2017, 06:27:38 AM
And...don't forget to put peanuts in the glass bottles of Coke.
I have never heard this. Guess there's something for me to try next time.
I think it's a southern thang. But it is delicious. Roasted without the red skins preferably.
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Quote from: cjk374 on June 14, 2017, 06:27:38 AM
And...don't forget to put peanuts in the glass bottles of Coke.
I have never heard this. Guess there's something for me to try next time.
I think it's a southern thang. But it is delicious. Roasted without the red skins preferably.
I like salty cashews in Pepsi.. There was a barbara mandresll song in fhe 1980s that mentioned putting peanuts in my coke
LGMS428
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Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 14, 2017, 06:30:02 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on June 14, 2017, 06:27:38 AM
And...don't forget to put peanuts in the glass bottles of Coke.
I have never heard this. Guess there's something for me to try next time.
I think it's a southern thang. But it is delicious. Roasted without the red skins preferably.
Takes sweet-and-salty, but looks nasty. Tried it once, but I can't get over the sight and taste of objects floating in my drink.
Quote from: formulanone on June 14, 2017, 11:26:09 AM
Takes sweet-and-salty, but looks nasty. Tried it once, but I can't get over the sight and taste of objects floating in my drink.
So, you don't like ice in your drinks either? :bigass:
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Quote from: formulanone on June 14, 2017, 11:26:09 AM
Takes sweet-and-salty, but looks nasty. Tried it once, but I can't get over the sight and taste of objects floating in my drink.
So, you don't like ice in your drinks either? :bigass:
Not really, unless I have a straw.
Have any of you tried the Lester's Fixin's Maple Bacon, Sweet Corn, or Ranch Dressing sodas?
The sweet corn is undrinkable
the ranch dressing tastes like drinking a crayon
The maple bacon is delicious. It's heavier on the maple, with a hint of a smoky flavor.
Quote from: inkyatari on June 14, 2017, 02:07:36 PM
Have any of you tried the Lester's Fixin's Maple Bacon, Sweet Corn, or Ranch Dressing sodas?
The sweet corn is undrinkable
the ranch dressing tastes like drinking a crayon
The maple bacon is delicious. It's heavier on the maple, with a hint of a smoky flavor.
I tried the bacon, and it had a sweet/smoky initial taste, but a body and aftertaste like varnish.
Quote from: inkyatari on June 14, 2017, 02:07:36 PM
Have any of you tried the Lester's Fixin's Maple Bacon, Sweet Corn, or Ranch Dressing sodas?
The sweet corn is undrinkable
the ranch dressing tastes like drinking a crayon
The maple bacon is delicious. It's heavier on the maple, with a hint of a smoky flavor.
bacon soda sounds gross.
Anyone remember when Hubba Bubba put out a soda that tasted like bubble gum? This was in the late '80s/early '90s.
Quote from: bandit957 on June 14, 2017, 09:09:18 PM
Anyone remember when Hubba Bubba put out a soda that tasted like bubble gum? This was in the late '80s/early '90s.
Yep. It was actually a Canfield's soda that licensed the Hubba Bubba name. It was very delicious. I always wanted to make a float with it.
Jones now has a bubble gum soda, but it doesn't really taste the same.
And Coke Zero is no more
www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/07/26/coca-cola-reboots-coke-zero-drink-with-new-recipe-name.html (http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/07/26/coca-cola-reboots-coke-zero-drink-with-new-recipe-name.html)
Seems to be more marketing than an actual change. New product will be "Coca-Cola Zero Sugar" and come in a traditional red and white package, with a black splash to denote the diet nature. New marketing spin is "Coca-Cola comes in a couple of variants- one with sugar and one without." rather than marketing it as a seperate product. On shelves by August.
Dr. Pepper is shit.
How do seven people like it.
(Insult on drink, not the people who voted it)
Quote from: JJBers on July 26, 2017, 02:45:17 PM
Dr. Pepper is shit.
How do seven people like it.
(Insult on drink, not the people who voted it)
I am one of the 7. It was originally the option for "Other", but Dr. Pepper took its place, moving "Other" down one. (I don't drink soda.)
Quote from: 1 on July 26, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: JJBers on July 26, 2017, 02:45:17 PM
Dr. Pepper is shit.
How do seven people like it.
(Insult on drink, not the people who voted it)
I am one of the 7. It was originally the option for "Other", but Dr. Pepper took its place, moving "Other" down one. (I don't drink soda.)
Oh...so how many actually voted Dr. Pepper
I didn't vote originally, but just did because you insulted my favorite soda. Actually, I like Cherry Dr. Pepper better, especially with some Captain Morgan...
Quote from: JJBers on July 26, 2017, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 26, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: JJBers on July 26, 2017, 02:45:17 PM
Dr. Pepper is shit.
How do seven people like it.
(Insult on drink, not the people who voted it)
I am one of the 7. It was originally the option for "Other", but Dr. Pepper took its place, moving "Other" down one. (I don't drink soda.)
Oh...so how many actually voted Dr. Pepper
It's honestly the best of the listed bunch, so I just chose it rather than "Other".
Without being hyperbolic, not every flavor is for everyone.
I have an on-again-off-again Mtn Dew addiction.
Quote from: SP Cook on July 26, 2017, 02:18:41 PM
And Coke Zero is no more
www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/07/26/coca-cola-reboots-coke-zero-drink-with-new-recipe-name.html (http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/07/26/coca-cola-reboots-coke-zero-drink-with-new-recipe-name.html)
Seems to be more marketing than an actual change. New product will be "Coca-Cola Zero Sugar" and come in a traditional red and white package, with a black splash to denote the diet nature. New marketing spin is "Coca-Cola comes in a couple of variants- one with sugar and one without." rather than marketing it as a seperate product. On shelves by August.
I've drank Diet Coke for so long that I cannot tolerate the taste of regular sugared pops like Coke and Pepsi. Because Coke Zero tastes so much like regular Coke, I don't drink it. I can't foresee myself drinking this new Coke Zero Sugar stuff. I just hope they don't do away with Diet Coke as it currently exists.
As for Dr Pepper, I've found that the diet version is probably closer in taste to the regular version than any other soft drink, with the possible exception of Vernors.
Quote from: davewiecking on July 26, 2017, 06:13:30 PM
I didn't vote originally, but just did because you insulted my favorite soda. Actually, I like Cherry Dr. Pepper better, especially with some Captain Morgan...
+1 on the Dr. Pepper/rum combo. Good stuff.
Dr. Pepper was also my vote because it is the best one of the available options.
Vanilla Coke or regular Coke. Occasionally Vernors or A & W Root Beer.
Mountain Dew Throwback :colorful:
I didn't vote because the only time I ever drink soda is when I drink liquor :) and it's usually bourbon or brandy with Pepsi
A&W Root Beer.
IBC and Henry Weinhard's are good, but the reality is I always come back to ol' cheap reliable, A&W.
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
mountain dew at 2 am?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2017, 10:34:14 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
mountain dew at 2 am?
That is also know as "college life."
Quote from: cjk374 on August 02, 2017, 05:25:06 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2017, 10:34:14 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
mountain dew at 2 am?
That is also know as "college life."
You would get a f in all your classes if you did that.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 02, 2017, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 02, 2017, 05:25:06 AM
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Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
mountain dew at 2 am?
That is also know as "college life."
You would get a f in all your classes if you did that.
In 5-6 years, you will understand young grasshopper. :ninja:
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 02, 2017, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 02, 2017, 05:25:06 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 01, 2017, 10:34:14 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
mountain dew at 2 am?
That is also know as "college life."
You would get a f in all your classes if you did that.
In your late teens-early 20s, your body's resilience is strong.
And a good thing, too.
Quote from: cjk374 on August 02, 2017, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 02, 2017, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 02, 2017, 05:25:06 AM
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Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
mountain dew at 2 am?
That is also know as "college life."
You would get a f in all your classes if you did that.
In 5-6 years, you will understand young grasshopper. :ninja:
Can confirm, I am constantly amazed at how much people can drink in college and still function properly.
Quote from: csw on August 02, 2017, 10:40:24 PM
Can confirm, I am constantly amazed at how much people can drink in college and still function properly.
Caffeinated beverages or alcohol...?
...Yes.
I don't drink soda(pop) as much as I used to. Too much sugar and I don't really care for diet sodas.
Favorite brand was Dr. Pepper. Favorite cheap as hell brand? Vess.
25 cents a can.
yes, you read that right. People would buy flats of the stuff for like 5.00. Favorite flavor of Vess was the cream soda.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 04, 2017, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: csw on August 02, 2017, 10:40:24 PM
Can confirm, I am constantly amazed at how much people can drink in college and still function properly.
Caffeinated beverages or alcohol...?
...Yes.
Or water.
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
Given what you state for your age, the boldfaced text kind of astonishes me. I find it hard to imagine someone your age having dental issues that would be aggravated by soda. [Pauses to knock on wooden table] I've never had a cavity, though I've seldom consumed "regular" (non-diet) soda in the past 25 or so years.
Canada Dry ginger ale....with bourbon
At the moment my favorite soda is one that I'm not paying a penny per ounce tax on.
That's odd, since at least around here, Dr Pepper is partnered with 7up and Snapple, with the home office given as Plano, TX. Pepsi comes out of Purchase and Coke has an operation in Newburgh, interestingly Pepsi cans sold in NYC are specifically marked 'New York'
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The usual is some variety of Pepsi.I like 7up and Sprite, and occasionally I'll go for a local favourite known as Kola, which isn't cola at all or for Squirt or the Jamaican version, 'Ting Now and again I'll have a ginger beer, either alcoholic or non, but the good stuff tends to be expensive.
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Quote from: 1995hoo on August 04, 2017, 09:28:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
Given what you state for your age, the boldfaced text kind of astonishes me. I find it hard to imagine someone your age having dental issues that would be aggravated by soda. [Pauses to knock on wooden table] I've never had a cavity, though I've seldom consumed "regular" (non-diet) soda in the past 25 or so years.
Most kids my age don't seem to care about their teeth.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 05, 2017, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 04, 2017, 09:28:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
Given what you state for your age, the boldfaced text kind of astonishes me. I find it hard to imagine someone your age having dental issues that would be aggravated by soda. [Pauses to knock on wooden table] I've never had a cavity, though I've seldom consumed "regular" (non-diet) soda in the past 25 or so years.
Most kids my age don't seem to care about their teeth.
I'm sure dentists in the Northeast are about to pad their retirement plans, then.
Cola drinks are easy: Coke, probably till the day I die.
However, I am far more willing to sample various root beers. The only commercialized stuff I can stand is Barq's and A&W; the rest is garbage to me. I am much more into third party producers, though, with a preference for Virgil's and Saranac.
Quote from: HTM Duke on August 06, 2017, 08:33:54 PM
Cola drinks are easy: Coke, probably till the day I die.
However, I am far more willing to sample various root beers. The only commercialized stuff I can stand is Barq's and A&W; the rest is garbage to me. I am much more into third party producers, though, with a preference for Virgil's and Saranac.
Abita Brewery down in Abita Springs, LA makes a delicious root beer.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 05, 2017, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 04, 2017, 09:28:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 27, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I don't care. I'll drink whatever type of soda, pop, coke - you name it, I'll try it.
However, for the sake of my teeth, I had to give it up. That doesn't mean I'll still have some when I get the chance.
Given what you state for your age, the boldfaced text kind of astonishes me. I find it hard to imagine someone your age having dental issues that would be aggravated by soda. [Pauses to knock on wooden table] I've never had a cavity, though I've seldom consumed "regular" (non-diet) soda in the past 25 or so years.
Most kids my age don't seem to care about their teeth.
I can't say as I thought much about my teeth at age 14 either, but I still brushed and flossed and went to the dentist for a cleaning every six months (my mom made the appointments back then, though I still go to the same dentist 30 years later). Are you saying you don't brush and floss? Talk about a turnoff to the chicks.....
Quote from: cjk374 on August 06, 2017, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: HTM Duke on August 06, 2017, 08:33:54 PM
Cola drinks are easy: Coke, probably till the day I die.
However, I am far more willing to sample various root beers. The only commercialized stuff I can stand is Barq's and A&W; the rest is garbage to me. I am much more into third party producers, though, with a preference for Virgil's and Saranac.
Abita Brewery down in Abita Springs, LA makes a delicious root beer.
What does everyone think of Vernor's various products?
Also, to be truly on topic: I live and die for Diet Pepsi. Regular Pepsi - meh, Coke - pretty good, and Diet Coke - BLEH...just doesn't taste like the "real" thing. If I can't get a Diet Pepsi when I'm hankering for a soda, Coca-Cola or its no-sugar varient (this thread and various news stories have confused me about its current name) are all that'll do.
Minhaus Brewing of Monroe Wis. makes a great Blueberry Creme soda under the name of "Blumers"
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on August 06, 2017, 10:00:06 PM
What does everyone think of Vernor's various products?
I love their ginger ale (I actually really like ginger ale in general, definitely in my top five for favorite pop). I didn't know they made anything else, though. The ginger ale is the only thing I can find around here.
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on August 04, 2017, 11:01:46 PM
That's odd, since at least around here, Dr Pepper is partnered with 7up and Snapple, with the home office given as Plano, TX. Pepsi comes out of Purchase and Coke has an operation in Newburgh, interestingly Pepsi cans sold in NYC are specifically marked 'New York'
Soft drinks have a three tier structure. At its simplist, the soft drink corporations do not make soft drinks nor sell directly to you, but rather make syrup which they sell to the bottlers, who add carbonated water to it and sell to stores, who sell to you. Bottler territories are generally by county line. There is a set of maps done by an outfit called Beverage Digest, but they are very expensive and they strongly protect their copyright.
Coca-Cola's corporate HQ is in Atlanta. Until about 10 years ago, in most of the country, the packaging actually said who the bottler was. Something like "Bottled under the authority of the Coca-Cola Company, Atlanta, Georgia by (name of bottler) (city, state). But they changed that to a fictional "Coca-Cola Bottlers Association, Atlanta, GA". The main bottlers of Coca-Cola are Coca-Cola Refreshments, which is the company itself, it having bought out a lot of bottlers in a long story and which it is now in the process of reselling off these territories; CC Consolidated, a stock company out of Charlotte; CC United, a private company out of Birmingham; CC Northern New England, a part of Japan's Kirin Brewery; and Swire USA, a part the huge Hong Knog conglomerate Swire.
Pepsi's corporate HQ is in the NYC suburb of Purchase and their products will say bottled by under the authority of the Pepsi Cola Company, Purchase, NY. It is not an indication of where it was actually bottled.
In the USA, the owner of Dr Pepper, 7-UP, Snapple, RC, Schweppes, A&W, Sunkist, Canada Dry and lots of other soft drinks are under the Dr Pepper Snapple Group located in the Dallas suburb of Plano. Thus its products are labeled as "Bottled under the authority of the Dr Pepper-Snapple Group, Plano, TX" Again this is not an indication of where it was actually bottled or who bottled it. Because all of these brands were once seperate companies, and because bottler contract are forever, there is a crazy quit of bottlers. In one county the Coke bottler might own Dr Pepper, but the Pepsi bottler own 7-UP, in the next county the Pepsi bottler might own both, in the next a "third tier" bottler (a bottler that does not bottle Pepsi or Coke) might own both. With yet more complex rights to all of the other brands.
In a tie for first, it's Pibb Xtra (though I'd love to have a plain old Mr. Pibb again) and Vernors. Dr. Pepper comes in at a solid #3. I'm more of a Pepsi person than a Coke person when it comes to cola, thoush I do have some respect for an RC too!
Quote from: SP Cook on August 07, 2017, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on August 04, 2017, 11:01:46 PM
That's odd, since at least around here, Dr Pepper is partnered with 7up and Snapple, with the home office given as Plano, TX. Pepsi comes out of Purchase and Coke has an operation in Newburgh, interestingly Pepsi cans sold in NYC are specifically marked 'New York'
Soft drinks have a three tier structure. At its simplist, the soft drink corporations do not make soft drinks nor sell directly to you, but rather make syrup which they sell to the bottlers, who add carbonated water to it and sell to stores, who sell to you. Bottler territories are generally by county line. There is a set of maps done by an outfit called Beverage Digest, but they are very expensive and they strongly protect their copyright.
Coca-Cola's corporate HQ is in Atlanta. Until about 10 years ago, in most of the country, the packaging actually said who the bottler was. Something like "Bottled under the authority of the Coca-Cola Company, Atlanta, Georgia by (name of bottler) (city, state). But they changed that to a fictional "Coca-Cola Bottlers Association, Atlanta, GA". The main bottlers of Coca-Cola are Coca-Cola Refreshments, which is the company itself, it having bought out a lot of bottlers in a long story and which it is now in the process of reselling off these territories; CC Consolidated, a stock company out of Charlotte; CC United, a private company out of Birmingham; CC Northern New England, a part of Japan's Kirin Brewery; and Swire USA, a part the huge Hong Knog conglomerate Swire.
Pepsi's corporate HQ is in the NYC suburb of Purchase and their products will say bottled by under the authority of the Pepsi Cola Company, Purchase, NY. It is not an indication of where it was actually bottled.
In the USA, the owner of Dr Pepper, 7-UP, Snapple, RC, Schweppes, A&W, Sunkist, Canada Dry and lots of other soft drinks are under the Dr Pepper Snapple Group located in the Dallas suburb of Plano. Thus its products are labeled as "Bottled under the authority of the Dr Pepper-Snapple Group, Plano, TX" Again this is not an indication of where it was actually bottled or who bottled it. Because all of these brands were once seperate companies, and because bottler contract are forever, there is a crazy quit of bottlers. In one county the Coke bottler might own Dr Pepper, but the Pepsi bottler own 7-UP, in the next county the Pepsi bottler might own both, in the next a "third tier" bottler (a bottler that does not bottle Pepsi or Coke) might own both. With yet more complex rights to all of the other brands.
I'm glad you bring this up, because it was something I learned from my father at a young age because he is a huge pop nerd (and has a pop can collection to boot! Here, I'm not talking about the aluminium can variety–I'm talking before then, when steel was used to make beverage cans.) The primary example I'll use to support this was that he really loved Dr. Slice (a Slice-branded ripoff of Dr. Pepper). Slice, as you might know, is a Pepsi brand, and this particular variety of Slice was only sold in places where the Coca-Cola bottler controlled the Dr. Pepper brand. He spent an awful lot of time trying to figure out who owned what and where and tracking down that particular soft drink over many years, which led to me going on a number of road trips with him, as a child, to hunt down that particular beverage.
So many fond memories came from that, including visiting the Willmar (I
think that's where it was, but it's been at least a decade now) Pepsi bottler to buy
an entire pallet of Dr. Slice for both himself and for resale on the Internet. (Early 2000s that was.)
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 07, 2017, 11:29:00 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on August 07, 2017, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on August 04, 2017, 11:01:46 PM
That's odd, since at least around here, Dr Pepper is partnered with 7up and Snapple, with the home office given as Plano, TX. Pepsi comes out of Purchase and Coke has an operation in Newburgh, interestingly Pepsi cans sold in NYC are specifically marked 'New York'
Soft drinks have a three tier structure. At its simplist, the soft drink corporations do not make soft drinks nor sell directly to you, but rather make syrup which they sell to the bottlers, who add carbonated water to it and sell to stores, who sell to you. Bottler territories are generally by county line. There is a set of maps done by an outfit called Beverage Digest, but they are very expensive and they strongly protect their copyright.
Coca-Cola's corporate HQ is in Atlanta. Until about 10 years ago, in most of the country, the packaging actually said who the bottler was. Something like "Bottled under the authority of the Coca-Cola Company, Atlanta, Georgia by (name of bottler) (city, state). But they changed that to a fictional "Coca-Cola Bottlers Association, Atlanta, GA". The main bottlers of Coca-Cola are Coca-Cola Refreshments, which is the company itself, it having bought out a lot of bottlers in a long story and which it is now in the process of reselling off these territories; CC Consolidated, a stock company out of Charlotte; CC United, a private company out of Birmingham; CC Northern New England, a part of Japan's Kirin Brewery; and Swire USA, a part the huge Hong Knog conglomerate Swire.
Pepsi's corporate HQ is in the NYC suburb of Purchase and their products will say bottled by under the authority of the Pepsi Cola Company, Purchase, NY. It is not an indication of where it was actually bottled.
In the USA, the owner of Dr Pepper, 7-UP, Snapple, RC, Schweppes, A&W, Sunkist, Canada Dry and lots of other soft drinks are under the Dr Pepper Snapple Group located in the Dallas suburb of Plano. Thus its products are labeled as "Bottled under the authority of the Dr Pepper-Snapple Group, Plano, TX" Again this is not an indication of where it was actually bottled or who bottled it. Because all of these brands were once seperate companies, and because bottler contract are forever, there is a crazy quit of bottlers. In one county the Coke bottler might own Dr Pepper, but the Pepsi bottler own 7-UP, in the next county the Pepsi bottler might own both, in the next a "third tier" bottler (a bottler that does not bottle Pepsi or Coke) might own both. With yet more complex rights to all of the other brands.
I'm glad you bring this up, because it was something I learned from my father at a young age because he is a huge pop nerd (and has a pop can collection to boot! Here, I'm not talking about the aluminium can variety–I'm talking before then, when steel was used to make beverage cans.) The primary example I'll use to support this was that he really loved Dr. Slice (a Slice-branded ripoff of Dr. Pepper). Slice, as you might know, is a Pepsi brand, and this particular variety of Slice was only sold in places where the Coca-Cola bottler controlled the Dr. Pepper brand. He spent an awful lot of time trying to figure out who owned what and where and tracking down that particular soft drink over many years, which led to me going on a number of road trips with him, as a child, to hunt down that particular beverage.
So many fond memories came from that, including visiting the Willmar (I think that's where it was, but it's been at least a decade now) Pepsi bottler to buy an entire pallet of Dr. Slice for both himself and for resale on the Internet. (Early 2000s that was.)
A curiosity around here is that Tinned Pepsi sold in NYC is marked 'New York'. That only applies to NYC as far as I've seen. Also, I've noticed that Pepsi and Coke are marked as Kosher, I don't know if that applies elsewhere, and about five years ago there was actually a 'Kosher Pepsi', labelled as such sold to the religious community.
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Quote from: SP Cook on August 07, 2017, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on August 04, 2017, 11:01:46 PM
That's odd, since at least around here, Dr Pepper is partnered with 7up and Snapple, with the home office given as Plano, TX. Pepsi comes out of Purchase and Coke has an operation in Newburgh, interestingly Pepsi cans sold in NYC are specifically marked 'New York'
Soft drinks have a three tier structure. At its simplist, the soft drink corporations do not make soft drinks nor sell directly to you, but rather make syrup which they sell to the bottlers, who add carbonated water to it and sell to stores, who sell to you. Bottler territories are generally by county line. There is a set of maps done by an outfit called Beverage Digest, but they are very expensive and they strongly protect their copyright.
Coca-Cola's corporate HQ is in Atlanta. Until about 10 years ago, in most of the country, the packaging actually said who the bottler was. Something like "Bottled under the authority of the Coca-Cola Company, Atlanta, Georgia by (name of bottler) (city, state). But they changed that to a fictional "Coca-Cola Bottlers Association, Atlanta, GA". The main bottlers of Coca-Cola are Coca-Cola Refreshments, which is the company itself, it having bought out a lot of bottlers in a long story and which it is now in the process of reselling off these territories; CC Consolidated, a stock company out of Charlotte; CC United, a private company out of Birmingham; CC Northern New England, a part of Japan's Kirin Brewery; and Swire USA, a part the huge Hong Knog conglomerate Swire.
Pepsi's corporate HQ is in the NYC suburb of Purchase and their products will say bottled by under the authority of the Pepsi Cola Company, Purchase, NY. It is not an indication of where it was actually bottled.
In the USA, the owner of Dr Pepper, 7-UP, Snapple, RC, Schweppes, A&W, Sunkist, Canada Dry and lots of other soft drinks are under the Dr Pepper Snapple Group located in the Dallas suburb of Plano. Thus its products are labeled as "Bottled under the authority of the Dr Pepper-Snapple Group, Plano, TX" Again this is not an indication of where it was actually bottled or who bottled it. Because all of these brands were once seperate companies, and because bottler contract are forever, there is a crazy quit of bottlers. In one county the Coke bottler might own Dr Pepper, but the Pepsi bottler own 7-UP, in the next county the Pepsi bottler might own both, in the next a "third tier" bottler (a bottler that does not bottle Pepsi or Coke) might own both. With yet more complex rights to all of the other brands.
When we were kids and ate out, our parents preferred sit down diners to fast food, we'd get bottled cokes and always look at the bottom to see where they were bottled
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Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on August 07, 2017, 12:11:49 PM
Also, I've noticed that Pepsi and Coke are marked as Kosher, I don't know if that applies elsewhere, and about five years ago there was actually a 'Kosher Pepsi', labelled as such sold to the religious community.
In the regular part of the year, regular Coke can be kosher if the bottler is willing to pay one of the several Jewish orginizations to certify it as such. Paying up is obviously a different business decision in NYC than in other places. During Passover, regular Coke is not kosher because it contains corn syrup, so a special "Kosher Coke" is made from real sugar.
The, at least to me, ironic thing about the two competitors relates to the Arab League's boycott of companies that delt with Israel. Pepsi, based in NYC and with many prominant Jews in its ownership history, stayed out of Israel and was sold in the Arab world; Coke, based in (then segregated) Atlanta did the opposite. The boycott ended decades ago, but even today (and outside North America the difference in popularity betwee Coke and its immitator is much greater) one of Pepsi's few bright spots is in Arab countries.
Chain pop: Pepsi, occasionally Dr. Pepper.
Craft/mom and pop: Spring Grove Soda Pop. They're based in the town of Spring Grove, MN just a few miles north of the Iowa border. It was love at first sip when I discovered their stand at the MN State Fair a couple years back. They've expanded to distribute their product in a number of Twin Cities grocery stores, though I used it as an excuse to go down to Spring Grove late this winter to pick up some wares. It's the best cream soda I've ever had, by far. I also enjoy their strawberry flavored pop.
I'm definitely a caffeinated Diet Pepsi addict, at least in the morning where it's my wake-up beverage instead of coffee. But there used to be some U.S. regional blends I didn't like, and I still don't care for the Canadian blend, so when I travel there I try to bring in enough from the U.S. to get by. I can't stand Diet Coke, and de-caf Diet Pepsi doesn't work for me either.
I also drink a lot of Diet 7-Up in the afternoon/evening, so I don't have enough caffeine in my bloodstream to wire an elephant. For that, I'm less choosy about the brand, and if Diet 7-Up is unavailable or at a much higher price. I can get by with Coca-Cola's Sprite Zero instead.
Well, Coca-Cola Zero Sugar showed up at my local Kroger.
It has the same bar code as Coke Zero, meaning it is not really considered a "new" product. It has a label saying "improved taste". My opinion? It does have a very slight flavor difference from the previous, slightly less "artificial sweetener" aftertaste. My guess is they have varried the ratio of the sweeteners, using more of the more expensive Ace-K, and added a little more phosperic acid.
The best cola is the Puma Kola made by Sprecher in Milwaukee, famed for their root beer. It's awesome because you can actually taste the honey, root extract, and other ingredients in the concoction. My favorite is probably the seasonal apple-flavored release that Sprecher does each year. The funny thing is that they brew beer, but I haven't liked a single beer they've produced. Their sodas is where it's at.
Dr. Pepper.
Funky Buddha- Floridian
New Glarus- Two Woman
Fulton- Lonely Blon....
Oh, what? Your talking about that carbonated sugar-water stuff... well ummmm....
Anything that doesn't have the words "Diet", "Zero", and/or "Fire" in the name is okay. I guess.
Quote from: on_wisconsin on August 14, 2017, 01:26:23 PM
Funky Buddha- Floridian
New Glarus- Two Woman
Fulton- Lonely Blon....
I could go for a craft beer thread.
Quote from: Takumi on August 14, 2017, 02:55:13 PM
Quote from: on_wisconsin on August 14, 2017, 01:26:23 PM
Funky Buddha- Floridian
New Glarus- Two Woman
Fulton- Lonely Blon....
I could go for a craft beer thread.
We'd have to ban roadgeekteen from posting in that one. ;)
Could we do a favorite beer thread? Or would that not be kosher for this forum?
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 14, 2017, 04:20:17 PM
Quote from: Takumi on August 14, 2017, 02:55:13 PM
Quote from: on_wisconsin on August 14, 2017, 01:26:23 PM
Funky Buddha- Floridian
New Glarus- Two Woman
Fulton- Lonely Blon....
I could go for a craft beer thread.
We'd have to ban roadgeekteen from posting in that one. ;)
Not sure it matters–underage drinkers don't go for craft beer anyway. They go for the cheapest hard stuff they can find to get as smashed as possible. Not that I would know anything about that. :awesomeface:
Quote from: on_wisconsin on August 14, 2017, 01:26:23 PM
Funky Buddha- Floridian
Three Degrees of Side Factoid: I went high school with the founder of that company, and he absolutely did it all on his own dime.
Proof that overnight success takes ten years.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 14, 2017, 04:55:13 PM
Could we do a favorite beer thread? Or would that not be kosher for this forum?
Kosher Beer Thread
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 14, 2017, 04:20:17 PMWe'd have to ban roadgeekteen from posting in that one. ;)
Drinking is illegal for under 21s in the US, but surely talking about it isn't ;)
Or are the moralistic prigs that extreme.
Says the guy who could legally drink aged 5...
Quote from: english si on August 15, 2017, 04:34:52 PM
Or are the moralistic prigs that extreme.
Actually yes, sometimes.
I prefer Baja Blast. And real colas made the old fashioned way with real cola nut extract.
Favorite soda ??
NOT DIET
What has gotten my interest in recent weeks -- particularly during our local heat wave a month or so ago -- was a particular drink from Talking Waters called "Classic Lemonade", part of that company's "Sparkling Ice" line of "flavored waters" (i.e., soda!). It's pretty carbonated, but has maybe the best balance of sweet (it's calorie-free) and tart that anyone has achieved in a carbonated lemonade. Trouble is that it's not cheap -- a buck for a 17-oz. bottle -- but occasionally Grocery Outlet has gotten their hands on some, and they sell it at half price -- which is when I stock up; maybe 30 bottles at a time. Good stuff -- highly recommended!
Quote from: Jardine on September 18, 2017, 08:59:40 PM
Favorite soda ??
NOT DIET
I like diet better than normal.
Diet Mountain Dew is preferred. I will go for a Diet Coke if I cannot get Diet Mountain Dew.
HB mentioned Ale-8-1, which I have occasionally gone for to soothe my stomach. Another favorite of mine along that same line is Gosling's Ginger Beer (yes, that IS a soft drink, even if its primary use is as part of a mixed alcoholic beverage).
Quote from: JMoses24 on September 25, 2017, 02:51:07 AM
Diet Mountain Dew is preferred. I will go for a Diet Coke if I cannot get Diet Mountain Dew.
HB mentioned Ale-8-1, which I have occasionally gone for to soothe my stomach. Another favorite of mine along that same line is Gosling's Ginger Beer (yes, that IS a soft drink, even if its primary use is as part of a mixed alcoholic beverage).
Any time I've ever had it, ginger beer is sold as a standalone beverage. I've never heard of it as a mixer. I have had alcoholic ginger beer; which is decent, a bit expensive.
P00I
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on September 25, 2017, 07:12:08 AM
Any time I've ever had it, ginger beer is sold as a standalone beverage. I've never heard of it as a mixer. I have had alcoholic ginger beer; which is decent, a bit expensive.
Never had a Dark 'n Stormy or a Moscow Mule?
Edit: Also, ginger beer is sold next to the other mixers at my local supermarket.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on September 25, 2017, 07:51:26 AM
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on September 25, 2017, 07:12:08 AM
Any time I've ever had it, ginger beer is sold as a standalone beverage. I've never heard of it as a mixer. I have had alcoholic ginger beer; which is decent, a bit expensive.
Never had a Dark 'n Stormy or a Moscow Mule?
Edit: Also, ginger beer is sold next to the other mixers at my local supermarket.
No, I'm not one for mixed drinks, I prefer beer and wine, anyway, on the rare occasions that I do drink. We have a significant Jamaican population in NYC, and Ginger Beer is a standalone beverage in that culture.
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Quote from: JMoses24 on September 25, 2017, 02:51:07 AMAnother favorite of mine along that same line is Gosling's Ginger Beer (yes, that IS a soft drink, even if its primary use is as part of a mixed alcoholic beverage).
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on September 25, 2017, 09:01:53 AM
We have a significant Jamaican population in NYC, and Ginger Beer is a standalone beverage in that culture.
Reed's is pretty good, too.
Back in the '90s, when this area was in the throes of prohibitionism, I used to think the height of comic genius was to drink root beer, cover up the word "root" on the can, and say, "Look, I'm drinking beer."
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on September 25, 2017, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on September 25, 2017, 07:51:26 AM
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on September 25, 2017, 07:12:08 AM
Any time I've ever had it, ginger beer is sold as a standalone beverage. I've never heard of it as a mixer. I have had alcoholic ginger beer; which is decent, a bit expensive.
Never had a Dark 'n Stormy or a Moscow Mule?
Edit: Also, ginger beer is sold next to the other mixers at my local supermarket.
No, I'm not one for mixed drinks, I prefer beer and wine, anyway, on the rare occasions that I do drink. We have a significant Jamaican population in NYC, and Ginger Beer is a standalone beverage in that culture.
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Tried ginger beer once, thinking it would be like ginger ale. It is, if you put an habanero pepper in there.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on September 26, 2017, 05:49:17 PM
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on September 25, 2017, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on September 25, 2017, 07:51:26 AM
Quote from: Otto Yamamoto on September 25, 2017, 07:12:08 AM
Any time I've ever had it, ginger beer is sold as a standalone beverage. I've never heard of it as a mixer. I have had alcoholic ginger beer; which is decent, a bit expensive.
Never had a Dark 'n Stormy or a Moscow Mule?
Edit: Also, ginger beer is sold next to the other mixers at my local supermarket.
No, I'm not one for mixed drinks, I prefer beer and wine, anyway, on the rare occasions that I do drink. We have a significant Jamaican population in NYC, and Ginger Beer is a standalone beverage in that culture.
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Tried ginger beer once, thinking it would be like ginger ale. It is, if you put an habanero pepper in there.
Then never go to a juice bar and order a shot of straight ginger. It is supposed to help sore or raspy throats.
And the shot of wheat grass tastes like the smell of your lawnmower after you just cut the lawn.
My favorite soda is apparently whatever limited-edition they're planning to ax next. Seriously, I get all into a new soda, and then it's gone from the shelves within a few weeks. Grrrr.....