What roads meet this criteria? Like Way, Trail, Circle, etc.
Military Trail in South Florida
There are lots of prominent "-way"s in Boston, not to mention Broadway in NYC. And there is no shortage of "Pikes" and "Turnpikes" in the Northeast.
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There is a East-West Connector in suburban Atlanta.
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Quote from: Buffaboy on May 26, 2017, 09:48:42 PM
What roads meet this criteria? Like Way, Trail, Circle, etc.
What suffixes do and don't count?
Panorama Trail comes to mind. As does the slew of "Lines" on the QEW.
It's at your own discretion, but think of "Drive" for example. I don't know too many of them that are super long and wide, other than Sheridan Drive in Amherst. Or Lanes for example.
Quote from: Buffaboy on May 27, 2017, 12:47:21 AM
Quote from: webny99 on May 27, 2017, 12:13:40 AM
Quote from: Buffaboy on May 26, 2017, 09:48:42 PM
What roads meet this criteria? Like Way, Trail, Circle, etc.
What suffixes do and don't count?
Panorama Trail comes to mind. As does the slew of "Lines" on the QEW.
It's at your own discretion, but think of "Drive" for example. I don't know too many of them that are super long and wide, other than Sheridan Drive in Amherst. Or Lanes for example.
Oh, well then, you have Harlem River Drive and FDR Drive in Manhattan. Neither is humongously long, nor even all that wide, but they are prominent and well-known roads.
Quote from: Buffaboy on May 27, 2017, 12:47:21 AM
It's at your own discretion, but think of "Drive" for example. I don't know too many of them that are super long and wide, other than Sheridan Drive in Amherst. Or Lanes for example.
Lake Shore Drive in Chicago may not be the longest Drive, but it is pretty wide in spots -- at least 4 Lanes a side. Wikipedia puts it at just over 20 miles -- that sounds about right, riding the Shores of Lake Michigan
Calgary has a number of Trails that qualify.
In terms of length, the Northern Woods and Water Route probably wins, at 1500 miles long:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Woods_and_Water_Route
Kansas City is a good place to look. Johnson Drive in Johnson County is a long, major arterial, as is Merriam Lane in Kansas City, KS. And of course, there is the large number of Trafficways (abbreviated Trfwy.) that is basically a Kansas City-only suffix.
Tulsa's Admiral Place probably fits the bill. It's a major arterial and even carried US-66.
How about Thruway? As far as I know, there's just the New York Thruway (I-87/I-90), the New England Thruway (I-95), and the Lehigh Valley Thruway (US 22), so it would certainly seem to qualify as uncommon.
Quote from: dgolub on May 27, 2017, 07:39:50 AM
How about Thruway? As far as I know, there's just the New York Thruway (I-87/I-90), the New England Thruway (I-95), and the Lehigh Valley Thruway (US 22), so it would certainly seem to qualify as uncommon.
There's also the Evangeline Thruway (Throughway?), which carries US-90 and US-167 through Lafayette, LA.
As for unusual suffixes, there's the Trail of the Lonesome Pine, which carries parts of US-19, US-460, and US-58-ALT thru the VA panhandle for well over 100 miles.
I was going to suggest "Trace" (as in Natchez), but I believe the road is officially the Natchez Trace Parkway.
Quote from: dgolub on May 27, 2017, 07:39:50 AM
How about Thruway?
A few others: US 220 is the Appalachian Thruway; the CSVT has long been the Central Susquehanna Valley Thruway (locals will sometimes say "the Thruway" in reference to the long-delayed freeway). Official CSVT publications claim the T stands for Transportation–probably in an half-hearted effort to make the project seem more multi-modal and transit-friendly, when in fact it's merely a freeway in a utterly car-dependent area.
It would seem that the overwhelming majority of thruways are in New York and Pennsylvania, though.
Northfield Drive in Waterloo, ON is a 20 km long arterial road, which is a 4 lane divided road in most of the city (turns to two lanes as it enters the country).
There's 17 Mile Dr. on the Monterey Peninsula so named for its length. Also, Tamiami Trail runs along US 41 from Tampa to Miami and is 275 miles long.
I mean, if we're counting "Drive" as uncommon, then basically we're looking for anything not named Street, Road or Avenue...and in fact, those suffixes might actually yield a shorter list of especially long or wide roads than Drive would!
Quote from: Buffaboy on May 26, 2017, 09:48:42 PM
What roads meet this criteria? Like Way, Trail, Circle, etc.
As stated, at about 1100 km, "El Camino Real" probably beats everything, but "El Camino" is a pretty common PREFIX in Spanish.
How about "Trafficways" in Kansas City
Skyline Drive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_Drive) in Virginia's Shenandoah National Park is slightly over 100 miles in length.
Also in Virginia, we have the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.1327169,-75.9669425/36.912207,-76.1313288/@37.022251,-76.189551,33284m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0) (officially the Lucius J. Kellam Jr. Bridge-Tunnel) which is a little over 19 miles from the entrance toll barrier to the opposite barrier (most of that is bridge or tunnel, but there is also some approach road).
Quote from: cpzilliacus on May 28, 2017, 07:41:52 AM
Also in Virginia, we have the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.1327169,-75.9669425/36.912207,-76.1313288/@37.022251,-76.189551,33284m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0) (officially the Lucius J. Kellam Jr Bridge-Tunnel) which is a little over 19 miles from the entrance toll barrier to the opposite barrier (most of that is bridge or tunnel, but there is also some approach road).
In a similar vein, there's also the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway, weighing in at about 24 miles.
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Quote from: cpzilliacus on May 28, 2017, 07:41:52 AM
Also in Virginia, we have the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.1327169,-75.9669425/36.912207,-76.1313288/@37.022251,-76.189551,33284m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0) (officially the Lucius J. Kellam Jr Bridge-Tunnel) which is a little over 19 miles from the entrance toll barrier to the opposite barrier (most of that is bridge or tunnel, but there is also some approach road).
In a similar vein, there's also the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway, weighing in at about 24 miles.
If causeway counts, then there's also the Robert Moses Causeway on Long Island at 8 miles.
Quote from: dgolub on May 28, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
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Quote from: cpzilliacus on May 28, 2017, 07:41:52 AM
Also in Virginia, we have the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.1327169,-75.9669425/36.912207,-76.1313288/@37.022251,-76.189551,33284m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0) (officially the Lucius J. Kellam Jr Bridge-Tunnel) which is a little over 19 miles from the entrance toll barrier to the opposite barrier (most of that is bridge or tunnel, but there is also some approach road).
In a similar vein, there's also the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway, weighing in at about 24 miles.
If causeway counts, then there's also the Robert Moses Causeway on Long Island at 8 miles.
So, does "Causeway" count? That seems to me not to be a street descriptor suffix, but just identifying a type of structure.
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Also in Virginia there's Pocahontas Trail which is US 60 between the Henrico/New Kent county line (near VA 249) and Newport News except through Williamsburg and western James City County.
And Merrimac Trail, which is VA 143 outside of Newport News and Hampton (except for a very brief portion in northwestern Williamsburg)
Does Skyway count? The Pulaski Skyway is a pretty significant freeway in NJ.
CA 86S was a long freeway bypass of CA 86, but the suffix was discontinued once CA 86 was rerouted onto it.
Would El Camino Real count?
There's a residential street in Columbia, Maryland called High Tor Hill that's of considerable length. Columbia is notorious for its many streets containing weird suffixes.
Sherman Way running east and west across the San Fernando Valley near Los Angeles.
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 27, 2017, 02:19:03 AM
Quote from: Buffaboy on May 27, 2017, 12:47:21 AM
It's at your own discretion, but think of "Drive" for example. I don't know too many of them that are super long and wide, other than Sheridan Drive in Amherst. Or Lanes for example.
Lake Shore Drive in Chicago may not be the longest Drive, but it is pretty wide in spots -- at least 4 Lanes a side. Wikipedia puts it at just over 20 miles -- that sounds about right, riding the Shores of Lake Michigan
Colonial Drive in Orange County, FL. It goes from the Lake County Line in the west to the Brevard County Line (St. Johns River) in the east. Its pretty much the whole length of the county.
Quote from: kalvado on May 31, 2017, 01:42:22 PM
Would El Camino Real count?
Oh no doubt. I would definitely consider that the cream of the crop on this thread... matter of fact what's the total mileage on this anyway? I've never been to the West Coast but I know enough to say its segments are pretty lengthy
Quote from: plain on June 14, 2017, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: kalvado on May 31, 2017, 01:42:22 PM
Would El Camino Real count?
Oh no doubt. I would definitely consider that the cream of the crop on this thread... matter of fact what's the total mileage on this anyway? I've never been to the West Coast but I know enough to say its segments are pretty lengthy
Keep in mind that, in Spanish, "El Camino Real" just means "The Royal Road" or "The Regal Highway". "Camino" is a NORMAL Spanish prefix for a road or highway. But, if you insist, I tried to get Google Maps to follow it the best that it could from Mission Sonoma to Mission San Diego and came up with 952 km. I am not sure how much of the highway is designated "El Camino Real" in Marin and Sonoma counties, so, more conservatively, I ran it from Mission Delores in San Francisco to Mission San Diego and came up with 905 km. It is probably actually a bit longer than that because it should run along CASR-82, CASR-1, and US-101 (and a few back, frontage, and through town roads that have been bypassed by freeway).
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Quote from: plain on June 14, 2017, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: kalvado on May 31, 2017, 01:42:22 PM
Would El Camino Real count?
Oh no doubt. I would definitely consider that the cream of the crop on this thread... matter of fact what's the total mileage on this anyway? I've never been to the West Coast but I know enough to say its segments are pretty lengthy
Keep in mind that, in Spanish, "El Camino Real" just means "The Royal Road" or "The Regal Highway". "Camino" is a NORMAL Spanish prefix for a road or highway. But, if you insist, I tried to get Google Maps to follow it the best that it could from Mission Sonoma to Mission San Diego and came up with 952 km. I am not sure how much of the highway is designated "El Camino Real" in Marin and Sonoma counties, so, more conservatively, I ran it from Mission Delores in San Francisco to Mission San Diego and came up with 905 km. It is probably actually a bit longer than that because it should run along CASR-82, CASR-1, and US-101 (and a few back, frontage, and through town roads that have been bypassed by freeway).
Wikipedia says the historic length is 600 miles, with a northern terminus in Sonoma County.
Continuing with the Spanish idea, Paseo del Norte in Albuquerque is 17.4 miles.
Quote from: michravera on June 14, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
I am not sure how much of the highway is designated "El Camino Real" in Marin and Sonoma counties...
I lived in Marin for several years, and I can't think of any part of "El Camino Real" that is officially signed under that name. There are some of the distinctive bell markers along the approximate route, but the roads along which they're posted have other names.
There's a long, continuous stretch (about 40 miles) of El Camino Real (officially designated and signed as "El Camino Real" ) from roughly Daly City to Santa Clara. But the name largely disappears from there southward only popping up either unofficially (i.e. bell markers) or in disjointed fragments like this one (https://goo.gl/maps/AUEYbiByeoN2) between Atascadero and Santa Margarita.
The use of "way" is not unusual in the Pacific Northwest. Lots of prominent/busy examples in Washington and British Columbia:
(WA) - Lake City Way & Bothell Way (primary road to/from areas NE of Seattle)
(WA) - Basically all of the MLK-designations (...King Jr Way)
(BC) - Golden Ears Way (basically a freeway for a few miles)
(BC) - Marine Way (very busy east/west connector south of Burnaby)
(BC) - Kingsway (super busy "old road" with lots of businesses -- primary road from New West to Vancouver)
(BC) - many, many others (Grant McConachie Way, Russ Baker Way, Sea Island Way -- and that's just one intersection!)
Quote from: jakeroot on June 14, 2017, 08:53:40 PM
The use of "way" is not unusual in the Pacific Northwest. Lots of prominent/busy examples in Washington and British Columbia:
(WA) - Lake City Way & Bothell Way (primary road to/from areas NE of Seattle)
(WA) - Basically all of the MLK-designations (...King Jr Way)
(BC) - Golden Ears Way (basically a freeway for a few miles)
(BC) - Marine Way (very busy east/west connector south of Burnaby)
(BC) - Kingsway (super busy "old road" with lots of businesses -- primary road from New West to Vancouver)
(BC) - many, many others (Grant McConachie Way, Russ Baker Way, Sea Island Way -- and that's just one intersection!)
What about Alaskan Way in Seattle?
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Quote from: jakeroot on June 14, 2017, 08:53:40 PM
The use of "way" is not unusual in the Pacific Northwest. Lots of prominent/busy examples in Washington and British Columbia:
(WA) - Lake City Way & Bothell Way (primary road to/from areas NE of Seattle)
(WA) - Basically all of the MLK-designations (...King Jr Way)
(BC) - Golden Ears Way (basically a freeway for a few miles)
(BC) - Marine Way (very busy east/west connector south of Burnaby)
(BC) - Kingsway (super busy "old road" with lots of businesses -- primary road from New West to Vancouver)
(BC) - many, many others (Grant McConachie Way, Russ Baker Way, Sea Island Way -- and that's just one intersection!)
What about Alaskan Way in Seattle?
There's that, yes. It's a big road, for sure (or, it was before it was shrunken substantially close to downtown). I would put it far below the first 2 examples from Washington in terms of importance; it's mostly known as the namesake of the viaduct, rather than a major commuting corridor.
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Quote from: michravera on June 14, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
I am not sure how much of the highway is designated "El Camino Real" in Marin and Sonoma counties...
I lived in Marin for several years, and I can't think of any part of "El Camino Real" that is officially signed under that name. There are some of the distinctive bell markers along the approximate route, but the roads along which they're posted have other names.
There's a long, continuous stretch (about 40 miles) of El Camino Real (officially designated and signed as "El Camino Real" ) from roughly Daly City to Santa Clara. But the name largely disappears from there southward only popping up either unofficially (i.e. bell markers) or in disjointed fragments like this one (https://goo.gl/maps/AUEYbiByeoN2) between Atascadero and Santa Margarita.
The California Highway Code designates El Camino Real and those mission bells are *OFFICIAL*.
El Camino Real very often shows up as a frontage or parallel road to US-101 in much of the state south of Santa Clara.
I know in Clare County, Michigan the roads going north-south are called Avenue's while the roads going east-west are called Roads.
In Eaton County, Michigan the roads going north-south are called Roads and the roads going east-west are called Highway's.
For example, a local dirt road in Eaton County is called a Highway.
Quote from: kalvado on May 31, 2017, 01:42:22 PM
Would El Camino Real count?
El Camino Real's a pretty appropriate if a bit hyperbolic name. But, as a direct-translation Spanish-language phrase, it works -- unlike its Sacramento-area counterpart: El Camino Ave., which literally translates into "The Road Avenue". That particular street has had that name for at least 90 years; you'd think that someone somewhere (possibly a Spanish teacher) might have called the city or county on this -- particularly in a state with a large portion of its cities and geographic features expressed in Spanish!
In Duluth, MN there's a four lane divided highway (most of it is MN-194) called Central Entrance (abbreviated Central Ent on signs (https://i.imgur.com/9XEia2V.jpg)).
El Camino Real?
Adirondack Northway? (NY)
In Denver we have Santa Fe Drive. It's approximately 29 miles long and at some points is 4 lanes in each direction with turn lanes. Much of the road carries US 85.
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Adirondack Northway? (NY)
Probably more of an individual name, not suffix. Northway, Thruway, Masspike... Broadway is somewhat similar.
i thought el camino real meant "the royal road" in english
There is also Alligator Alley in Florida. How many alleys are 80 miles long and carry an Interstate designation?
Quote from: akotchi on August 13, 2017, 10:05:34 PM
There is also Alligator Alley in Florida. How many alleys are 80 miles long and carry an Interstate designation?
The name "Alligator Alley" was given by the American Automobile Association while it was planned since they believed it would be useless to cars, merely an "alley for alligators".
If "Drive" counts, several major urban streets in the Phoenix region come to mind: Union Hills Drive and Val Vista Drive are both around 19 miles long, McClintock is 11, Lincoln is just over 7. Priest is broken in two segments, totaling about 8 miles.
Jackrabbit Trail is about 10 miles long, currently two lanes in many spots, but it's a main road that sits on a section line in an growth path. It's only a matter of time before it's 4-6 lanes along its length. Ditto for Verrado Way.
In Tucson, Alvernon Way is 14 miles. Old Spanish Trail is just under 17. Mary Ann Cleveland Way is about 5 miles.
VA 40 in Sussex County is known as Sussex Drive (except in Waverly, where it's Main Street) and runs for about 28 miles or so.
In KC, there is a road called SW Trafficway.
Quote from: akotchi on August 13, 2017, 10:05:34 PM
There is also Alligator Alley in Florida. How many alleys are 80 miles long and carry an Interstate designation?
That reminds me, didn't we have a thread or two that attempted to define road suffix types? That is, an "avenue" has such-and-such characteristics, as opposed to a "boulevard" or "drive", which has so-and-so?
Because I think we can all agree that an "alley" is narrower than a road or street, and is used to provide access between or behind urban buildings or city blocks.