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Title: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: GenExpwy on June 12, 2017, 04:30:32 AM
I just came across this, and I thought some of you might be interested:
EM 7100-15  Sign and Poster Guidelines for the Forest Service, 2013 (https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3810021.pdf) (681-page PDF; 32.1 MB)

Much of it includes MUTCD-type signs for roads, trails, recreation sites, etc., including a bunch of Forest Service-specific road signs not in the MUTCD.

(It also includes stuff like design principles for visitor kiosks and even some OSHA-type safety signage.)
Title: Re: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: CtrlAltDel on June 14, 2017, 07:09:01 PM
I thought this manual was fascinating. What surprised me is how trails in the wilderness are marked differently than non-wilderness trails. In particular, there are no distances marked on them. I thought that was odd. 
Title: Re: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: paulthemapguy on June 14, 2017, 07:25:44 PM
Regarding the Forest Service Roads--Does anyone know of any surefire places to spot some of the trapezoidal route markers in the wild?  The markers I'm talking about are on page 124 of the document.
Title: Re: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: Scott5114 on June 14, 2017, 07:35:25 PM
I remember seeing some in the Black Hills, but that was over ten years ago. No idea if they're still around.
Title: Re: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: Kniwt on June 14, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 14, 2017, 07:25:44 PM
Regarding the Forest Service Roads--Does anyone know of any surefire places to spot some of the trapezoidal route markers in the wild?  The markers I'm talking about are on page 124 of the document.

They're fairly common around Mount St. Helens ... in fact, here they are on a BGS!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5MAyijT.jpg&hash=ee2f7a600608b915d57356cb10ae5a4b5157c4fc)
Title: Re: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: Lancaster6 on June 14, 2017, 11:07:23 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 14, 2017, 07:25:44 PM
Regarding the Forest Service Roads--Does anyone know of any surefire places to spot some of the trapezoidal route markers in the wild?  The markers I'm talking about are on page 124 of the document.

These are all over the place on AZ 64 heading up to the Grand Canyon.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8411726,-112.1321286,3a,45.6y,25.74h,77.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKdkNsb_-ufNzArspMNXbkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 15, 2017, 08:32:08 AM
Quote from: Lancaster6 on June 14, 2017, 11:07:23 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 14, 2017, 07:25:44 PM
Regarding the Forest Service Roads--Does anyone know of any surefire places to spot some of the trapezoidal route markers in the wild?  The markers I'm talking about are on page 124 of the document.

These are all over the place on AZ 64 heading up to the Grand Canyon.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8411726,-112.1321286,3a,45.6y,25.74h,77.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKdkNsb_-ufNzArspMNXbkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Both National Forests in Arizona and New Mexico have them all over the place.  It is actually a fairly handy adhoc gauge on the quality of the road because for the most part if it has a shield then 2WD/low clearance can handle it....for the most part...
Title: Re: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: CYoder on June 15, 2017, 11:24:37 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 14, 2017, 07:25:44 PM
Regarding the Forest Service Roads--Does anyone know of any surefire places to spot some of the trapezoidal route markers in the wild?  The markers I'm talking about are on page 124 of the document.
Quite a few in the Mount Rogers Recreational Area (Virginia):
US 58 intersects FS 90 (https://goo.gl/maps/7yuWDcT9JhB2)
SR 600 intersects FS 54(?) (https://goo.gl/maps/8BLtTjCYg4L2)
Title: Re: US Forest Service sign manual
Post by: seicer on June 27, 2017, 09:44:40 AM
re Wildernesses

Wildernesses are designed for the more advanced hiker/backpacker who has some knowledge of how to read maps and navigate. Besides omitting distances, wildernesses are completely closed to motorized vehicles and technology - so doing trail maintenance work requires the use of hand tools or animals.