I was looking a atlas yesterday, and I noticed that I-10 in LA area went upwards of 80 exits, so I deiced to make a list of a few metro areas, and the exit number ranges for their interstates. I'm only doing 2dis'.
NYC
I-78: Exits 7-58B...then 14-14B
I-87: Exits 1-17 and 2-14
I-84: (NY) Exits 1-21 (PA) 20-53
I-95: (NY) Exits 1-22 (NJ) 7-16W...then it picks up I-80's exit numbers, which leads it going from 69-74.
I-80: Exits 25-67
Boston/Providence
I-95: (RI) Exits 1-30 (MA) 1-60 (NH) 1-7
I-90: Exits 26-9
I-84: (MA) Exits 1-3B (CT) 72
I-93: (MA) Exits 1-48 (NH) 1-23
I-89: Exits 1-12
Hartford
I-91: Exits 20-49
I-84: Exits 28-71, 73-74
I'll expand this later on.
How are Tilton NH and New London NH in the Boston metro area? Kittery ME deserves to be counted much more than central NH (although I do think it is a bit too far).
Quote from: 1 on June 26, 2017, 07:32:42 PM
How are Tilton NH and New London NH in the Boston metro area? Kittery ME deserves to be counted much more than central NH (although I do think it is a bit too far).
I don't know...the CSA area showed those cities being part of it. Kittery's county wasn't included in that list.
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:24:14 PM
NYC
I-78: Exits 7-58B...then 14-14B
I-87: Exits 2-17
I think it's interesting that exit 1 of I-87, despite being in NYC itself, is not in the NYC metro area. I have learned a new thing about geography today!
Also worth noting that it's 2-14 and 1-17, because of the Thruway reset.
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 26, 2017, 07:32:42 PM
How are Tilton NH and New London NH in the Boston metro area? Kittery ME deserves to be counted much more than central NH (although I do think it is a bit too far).
I don't know...the CSA area showed those cities being part of it. Kittery's county wasn't included in that list.
It is 100 miles from New London to Boston. New London is in pretty rural New Hampshire.
The way JJ is ranking these will not really work in the rest of the country, given that everybody outside NY and New England (excluding Maine) uses a milepost-based system.
Sure, one could still range the exit numbers, but those exit numbers have a totally different meaning outside the Northeast.
If we're talking entire metro areas and not just the city, I-95 in the Baltimore metro area is exits 35 to 89.
Are NW IN and SE WI considered part of the Chicagoland metro area?
If no/just IL, then I-94 is IL Exit 74 to Exit 1, border to border, not counting I-80 exits 161 and 160, at the 80/94 duplex, approaching the IN border
If adding in NW IN, add in IN Exit 40 to Exit 1
If adding in extreme SE WI...I would probably consider Kenosha, WI "neutral" territory, and exclusive Milwaukee suburbs beginning around Racine (tho this is certainly up to debate/further discussion)...so WI Exit 347 to Exit 340
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:24:14 PM
NYC
I-78: Exits 7-58B...then 14-14B
I-87: Exits 1-17 and 2-14
I-84: (NY) Exits 1-21 (PA) 20-53
I-95: (NY) Exits 1-22 (NJ) 7-16W...then it picks up I-80's exit numbers, which leads it going from 69-74.
I-80: Exits 25-67
Boston/Providence
I-95: (RI) Exits 1-30 (MA) 1-60 (NH) 1-7
I-90: Exits 26-9
I-84: (MA) Exits 1-3B (CT) 72
I-93: (MA) Exits 1-48 (NH) 1-23
I-89: Exits 1-12
Hartford
I-91: Exits 20-49
I-84: Exits 28-71, 73-74
I'll expand this later on.
For NYC: I would narrow I-78 and I-80 to those exits inside I-287. I-84 should just be the NY exits. The skip in I-95 exits in NJ north of the Turnpike is actually based on mileage from West Trenton assuming the Somerset Freeway mileage, not I-80 mileage. I would also extend I-95 to Exit 15 in CT.
Boston/Providence: I would only include exits from RI Exit 8 northward on I-95. I-84 and I-89 should be cut and I-93 should only extend to Exit 17 in NH.
Hartford: I-84 should be 27 (I-691) to 68 (UConn Exit) and I-91 Exits 21-49.
Chicagoland
I-90 Exits 42-107 (IL) and Exits 1-25 ish (IN)
I-94 Exits 1-74 (IL) and Exits 1-26 (IN) (I don't consider LaPorte County as part of Chicagoland)
I-88 Exits 109-138
I-55 Exits 236-293
I-80 Exits 126-161
I-57 Exits 327-357
I'm with you on most of those. I'd put 57 at 140 and I've always considered the 80-55 interchange as the start of Chicagoland for both roads.
Minneapolis/St. Paul:
I-94 Exits 207-258 (Rogers-Lakeland), and WI Exits 1-10 (Hudson-New Richmond)
I-35(E) Exits 84-132 (Lakeville-Forest Lake)
Quote from: jaehak on June 27, 2017, 12:08:14 PM
I'm with you on most of those. I'd put 57 at 140 and I've always considered the 80-55 interchange as the start of Chicagoland for both roads.
I contemplated doing that for 80/55 but I decided to include the rest of Will County for both. To me Chicagoland is Cook, DuPage, Lake (IL), Kane, McHenry, Kendall, Lake (IN) and Porter.
For Philly: Every interchange on I-95 in PA, DE and NJ (the original part around Trenton) is in the Philly Metro area, for a total of, I believe, 47 exits (and that doesn't include I-95's NJ Turnpike exits).
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 27, 2017, 02:49:53 AM
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:24:14 PM
NYC
I-95: (NY) Exits 1-22 (NJ) 7-16W...then it picks up I-80's exit numbers, which leads it going from 69-74.
For NYC: I would narrow I-78 and I-80 to those exits inside I-287. I-84 should just be the NY exits. The skip in I-95 exits in NJ north of the Turnpike is actually based on mileage from West Trenton assuming the Somerset Freeway mileage, not I-80 mileage. I would also extend I-95 to Exit 15 in CT.
I wouldn't include Exit 7 of the NJ Turnpike at all - you're at minimum 40 miles from any point in NYC (which would be Staten Island), yet only 20 miles from Philadelphia.
Loosing speaking, anything south of Exit 9 on the NJ Turnpike is pretty far removed from the NYC area. Understand that there are people that live in South Jersey and the Poconos that travel a few hours each day to get to work in the Big Apple, so the NYC metro area tends to be a bit overstated by some.
I suppose I need to do all 2DI's in the Baltimore area.
I-95: 35 to 89
I-70: 68 to 94
I-83: entire thing, 1 to 37
I-97: entire thing, 5 to 17
And can I do DC too?
I-66: pretty much the entire thing, 6 to 75
I-68: 72 to 82
I-70: 1 to 62
I-81: 300 to 323 in Virginia, entire 26 miles in West Virginia, entire 11 miles in Maryland, 1 to 24 in Pennsylvania
I-95: 118 to 177 in Virginia, 2 to 33 in Maryland
Without looking up any definitions or county lines and just going with my gut, Atlanta:
I-20: 24 to 93
I-75: 201 to 293
I-85: 41 to 129
I-285: all
I-675: all
I-575: 1 to 20
I-985: 1 to 8 (north of that is probably linked more to Gainesville than Atlanta)
I think that this information would be more useful if it was broken down by county rather than for an entire CSA.
I'll do Richmond-Petersburg VA(basically wherever the tree medians end/begin except in the case of I-95 south)
I-64: 173 to 205
I-85: 61 to 69
I-95: 45 to 92
for Metro Detroit (Wayne Oakland and Macomb county):
I-94 Exit 190-248
I-96 Exit 155-192
I-75 Exit 27-98
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:24:14 PM
I'll expand this later on.
You already did... far outside any reasonable range.
Well for I-90 near Buffalo, there's a sign that says "Greater Niagara Region Exits 57-47," although if you measure from barrier to barrier it's really exits 55-50.
Or if you want to make a fictional "loop" using NY-179, US 20 and NY-78, that would be from Exits 56 to 49.
Portland: I-5 282A to 14
I-84 1 to 17
I-205 entire length (1 to 36)
US 26 53 to 74
WA 14 1 to 14
Miami / Fort Lauderdale / West Palm Beach:
I-75: 1-23
I-95: 1-87
FL Turnpike: 1-47(HEFT), 1X,2X,4X, 48-116(Mainline)
Seattle/Tacoma (expanded to Olympia/Bellingham)
I-5: 101-258
I-90: 1-54
Metro Phoenix
I-10 Exits 112-167
I-17 Exits 194-229
US60 Exits 157, 160 (194-201 I-17 concurrency)(150-154 I-10 concurrency) 171-199
Loop 101 Exits 1-61C
Loop 202 Exits 1-55 -> (56-75 UC)
Loop 303 Exits (97-103 Future) <- 104-138
CSAs/MSAs be damned, I'm way more in favor of mapman1071's definition of this exercise than, say, Henry's. CSA/MSA are TV market measures, but I don't think they really apply to roads. Bellingham is in the Seattle TV market and likely cheers for the Mariners, but it's 100 miles from Seattle. Nobody is commuting into Seattle for work every day from Bellingham. The parameters set by mapman1071 do a better job of defining urban/suburban metro PHX than a lot of these CSA/MSA posts IMHO. The only reason parts of WV and PA are considered DC metro is because of commuter trains, it has nothing to do with I-81.
Metro Detroit
I-75: Exits 26-93
I-94: Exits 187-248
I-96: Exits 153-192
I-96 ends in Detroit while the other two go through Detroit and I'm not sure what the extreme limits of the Metro area are.
Charleston, SC
I-26: Exits 187-221
I-526: The whole thing
Columbia
I-20: Exits 39-98 (real influence goes from 51-87)
I-26: Exits 91-129
I-77: End to Exit 32
I-126: The entire road
Quote from: jaehak on June 29, 2017, 11:34:01 AM
The only reason parts of WV and PA are considered DC metro is because of commuter trains, it has nothing to do with I-81.
No MARC commuter trains go to Franklin or Fulton County, PA. Yet, oddly, they are part of the DC television market. I-81 does pass through the latter, though.
Quote from: jaehak on June 29, 2017, 11:34:01 AM
CSAs/MSAs be damned, I'm way more in favor of mapman1071's definition of this exercise than, say, Henry's. CSA/MSA are TV market measures, but I don't think they really apply to roads. Bellingham is in the Seattle TV market and likely cheers for the Mariners, but it's 100 miles from Seattle. Nobody is commuting into Seattle for work every day from Bellingham. The parameters set by mapman1071 do a better job of defining urban/suburban metro PHX than a lot of these CSA/MSA posts IMHO. The only reason parts of WV and PA are considered DC metro is because of commuter trains, it has nothing to do with I-81.
I know Portland's been done, but I think it would be fairer to use the Urban Growth Boundary to determine the metro area. This technically means no Washington State, sooooo...
I-5: 283-308
I-84: 1 to 17
I-205: 6 to 24B
I-405: 1A to 3
US-26: 61(A) to 74
OR-217: 1 to 7
San Francisco Bay Area
US 101 from south edge of Santa Clara County to north edge of Marin County - Exit 355 (Monterey Road/former US 101 in Gilroy) to Exit 467 (San Antonio Road, just north of Novato)
I-80 from western terminus at US 101 in San Francisco to the edge of Dixon (last city going northeast in Solano County) - Exit 1A/1B (US 101) to Exit 67 (Pedrick Road)
I-580 from western terminus at US 101 in San Rafael to the I-205 split near Altamont (in Alameda County) - Exit 1 to Exit 65
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Metro Sacramento
I-5: Exit 498 (Twin Cities Road) to Exit 541 (Route 16/former US 99W in Woodland)
I-80: Exit 70 (Route 113 near Davis) to Exit 123 (Bell Road near Auburn)
Route 99: Exit 274A in Galt to Exit 311 (Riego Road) near Pleasant Grove
US 50: Exit 1 (I-80 in West Sacramento) to Exit 49 in Placerville
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San Diego
I-5: Exit 1A in San Ysidro to Exit 54C at Camp Pendleton
I-8: Exit 1 (Mission Bay) to Exit 33 in Alpine
Route 15/I-15: Exit 1A (I-5 in Barrio Logan) to Exit 54 in Rainbow
For Kansas City, I'm going to go with my opinion since the MSA & CSA are both too extensive.
I-29: Exit 1A (I-35) to Exit 20 (MO 92/Platte City)
I-35: Exit 214 (Lone Elm Rd./159th St. in Olathe, KS) to Exit 20 (US 69 & MO 33 in Liberty, MO)
I-49: Exit 172 (N Cass Pkwy in Raymore) to Exit 187 (I-435/I-470)
I-70: Exit 224 (US 24/40/73 & K-7 in Bonner Springs, KS) to Exit 24 (US 40 in Grain Valley, MO)
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:24:14 PMBoston/Providence
I-95: (RI) Exits 1-30 (MA) 1-60 (NH) 1-7
Such looks more like
statewide listings than regional/metropolitan. For the Greater Boston area; Exits 11-50 (MA) would be more appropriate.
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:24:14 PMI-90: Exits 26-9
More like Exits 12-26 for the Greater Boston area.
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:24:14 PMI-84: (MA) Exits 1-3B
I would not include at all; I-84's too far from the Greater Boston area.
Quote from: JJBers on June 26, 2017, 07:24:14 PM
I-93: (MA) Exits 1-48
For the greater Boston area; Exits 1-37C would be more accurate.
I find Columbus, Ohio, to be very interesting in relation to this, because both I-70 and I-71 have exits right around 100 within the city.
Philadelphia metropolitan area:
PA:
I-95 (entire length)
I-76 (Exits 326-351)
I-276 (entire length)
I-476 (Exits 1-31)
I-676 (entire length)
NJ:
I-76 (entire length)
I-295 (Exits 11-47)
I-676 (entire length)
NJTP (Exits 2-5)
NJ 42 (Exits 7-14)
NJ 55 (Exits 56-58)
This is a very interesting concept!
While it's not exactly a very large city and metro area (
compared to places like Boston, Seattle, Atlanta, etc.), I'll do Chattanooga, Tennessee:
Interstate 75
=> Exit 348 (GA) to Exit 11 (TN)
=> total length in miles: 18 miles
Interstate 24
=> Exit 174 all the way to the eastern terminus (end) at Exit 185
=> total length in miles: 11 miles
Interstate 59
=> Its northern terminus barely misses the edge of the Chattanooga Metro Area, so no exits on it are included (the reason it's mentioned at all is due to its proximity to Chattanooga).
Now for something bigger, here's Nashville, Tennessee:
Interstate 65
=> Exit 46 (here at the US 412 interchange may be at slight stretch, but at the very least it begins at Exit 53, which is at limited-access TN 396) to Exit 98
=> using Exit 46 as the starting point, the total length in miles is: 52 miles
Interstate 40
=> Exit 192 to Exit 239
=> total length in miles: 47 miles
Interstate 24
=> Exit 35 to Exit 84
=> total length in miles: 49 miles
Interstate 440
=> all exits
Interstate 840
=> I apologize for my incompetence, but due to I-840 being a partial beltway, it is practically impossible for me personally to calculate the metropolitan exits of this interstate, so unless someone else has the competence to do this one, I'll leave it as: N/A
Quote from: Eth on June 27, 2017, 04:10:34 PM
Without looking up any definitions or county lines and just going with my gut, Atlanta:
Quote from: Eth on June 27, 2017, 04:10:34 PM
I-985: 1 to 8 (north of that is probably linked more to Gainesville than Atlanta)
Despite Gainesville's modest size, I'd say that it is more or less becoming a suburb of the Greater Atlanta Metro Area, if not already, and the sprawl is only increasing and filling in even more as time goes on. As crazy as this may sound, Athens is seemingly headed in the same direction. It is only a matter of time before Atlanta's and Athens' sprawl are completely inevitably linked.
Quote from: jaehak on June 29, 2017, 11:34:01 AM
CSA/MSA are TV market measures
??? CSA/MSAs are determined by commuting patterns and have nothing to do with television markets. For example San Diego is the only MSA/TV market in California that lines up; none of the other 25 MSAs or 7 CSAs line up with a TV market (and most are off by a significant amount).
I-4 for Orlando is 55 to 103 as the Orlando area does start at US 27 west of Disney. The St. Johns River is the east end though one could argue that Deltona, Orange City, and DeLand are part of Orlando's metro area which would lengthen the range even more as the last DeLand exit is 118 at SR 44.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 27, 2017, 01:02:18 PM
I-4 for Orlando is 55 to 103 as the Orlando area does start at US 27 west of Disney. The St. Johns River is the east end though one could argue that Deltona, Orange City, and DeLand are part of Orlando's metro area which would lengthen the range even more as the last DeLand exit is 118 at SR 44.
I've always thought of the Orlando Metro Area as extending out all the way to DeLand, even though the St. Johns River is a big geographical barrier (particularly because of Lake Monroe).
Milwaukee
I-41 Exits 38-76
I-43 Exits 43-107
I-94 Exits 282-335