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Title: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: txstateends on July 02, 2017, 11:03:40 PM
I'm starting to see more and more examples of trees or shrubs covering up (or at least partially blocking) signs.  I'm not sure how much of this is growth after a sign is placed, and how much might be sign placement after a plant is in the vicinity.  I'm not really bothered by this myself, but how often would obstructed signage be a problem for others unfamiliar with an area?  Either DOT reps don't care, DOT employees don't check things like this regularly, or something.

TX 360, south of DFW Airport
https://goo.gl/maps/rT7TeB8XA612

Commerce/Harwood, downtown Dallas
https://goo.gl/maps/K9B5Qf3XMET2

Preston Rd. (TX 289) north of Belt Line, north Dallas
https://goo.gl/maps/hNz2GWSBCL82

Inwood/Walnut Hill, north Dallas
(the GSV is of the almost-gone round green Dallas North Tollway sign version, but the current blue-white rectangular version is exactly in the same spot and arrangement)
https://goo.gl/maps/WZ1iGEMsmpp

Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 02, 2017, 11:18:15 PM
In places like the northeast where trees and weeds grow like, well, weeds, this is a very common problem.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: txstateends on July 03, 2017, 12:35:13 AM
I meant to add that the Trinity-FAA BGS on TX 360 has since gotten to at least halfway covered up, if not more.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: JJBers on July 03, 2017, 01:51:35 AM
Easy, here's US 6:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4229/35347400492_968fe95d0e_k.jpg)
CC 2.0 JJBers (Me)
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: Brian556 on July 03, 2017, 01:53:04 AM
When trees touch signs, the wind rubs them against the sign, causing damage
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: Brian556 on July 03, 2017, 01:55:12 AM
Here's some obstructing a railroad crossing signal near my house:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0715045,-97.0498073,3a,15y,89.87h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2On6VC4XVXqga-k8y169yQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0715045,-97.0498073,3a,15y,89.87h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2On6VC4XVXqga-k8y169yQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: NE2 on July 03, 2017, 01:55:48 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jRYXeIef--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18nbo6l2cqopdjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: JJBers on July 03, 2017, 02:01:51 AM
Quote from: NE2 on July 03, 2017, 01:55:48 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jRYXeIef--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18nbo6l2cqopdjpg.jpg)
Well, we got one without the H.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: amroad17 on July 03, 2017, 02:27:06 AM
^ I believe this is a sign NE2 wants covered up by a tree or shrub!  :-D

Anyway, there are two mileage signs along I-74 EB northwest of Cincinnati that are obstructed by trees at this posting.  Branches and shrubbery are covering up a  Cincinnati  11  sign and a  Cincinnati   8  sign.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: NE2 on July 03, 2017, 03:31:37 AM
There's a shrub at the bottom.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: Eth on July 03, 2017, 07:23:50 AM
It's a common problem in Georgia, too.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2F2017%2Fsign_photos%2Fnumbers%2Fga347.jpg&hash=08eb9843508b438f79255bfd0cebd4f6f097d8e7)
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 03, 2017, 08:19:32 AM
I came across this in Des Moines, August 2014:

(https://i.imgur.com/wyqdYv7.jpg)

I reported it to the city, where after a couple of weeks they cut it down. That wasn't enough, because the sucker has since grown back. The city takes a far more proactive approach whenever I report obscured stop signs to them, though.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: davewiecking on July 03, 2017, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: NE2 on July 03, 2017, 03:31:37 AM
There's a shrub at the bottom.
Good one! Took me a few seconds...
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: 7/8 on July 03, 2017, 10:47:16 AM
This one is on I-94 west of Ann Arbor, MI

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FM8y42Tg.jpg&hash=09522be5ba5b750d3d7998cb2036f2cb5598167c)
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: PHLBOS on July 03, 2017, 10:53:06 AM
Not the best representation nor GSV; but this BGS gantry (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9129238,-75.3586364,3a,75y,283.69h,115.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbcLmGsJPojYBU50mrib2aA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) has since (GSV is from Nov. 2016) been overtaken by the adjacent shrubbery to a point where the growth now almost covers most of the I-476 North BGS and is starting to creep up upon its I-476 companion BGS.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: JJBers on July 03, 2017, 12:16:53 PM
This counts
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4218/35529161251_2f897e5bf5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W8AePH)
CC 2.0 JJBers
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: oscar on July 03, 2017, 12:33:42 PM
I don't have examples, but often I find tree branches covering part of a sign I want to photograph. Sometimes I've been able to push the offending foliage away from or behind the sign, so I could get my shot. The hiking stick I often have with me on the road comes in handy for that, though not much help with even a ground-mounted BGS.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: jbnv on July 03, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8140/30155259502_90fa0618ca.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MWHA4h)
Partially-Obstructed FL 281 Exit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/MWHA4h) by Jay Bienvenu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bienvenunet/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: SectorZ on July 03, 2017, 02:54:40 PM
Quote from: JJBers on July 03, 2017, 12:16:53 PM
This counts
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4218/35529161251_2f897e5bf5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W8AePH)
CC 2.0 JJBers

What does it look like from the actual road the sign is on?
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: hbelkins on July 03, 2017, 10:56:00 PM
Just got home from a trip that took me to Ohio, West Virginia and Virginia. Saw more examples of this than I can recall offhand.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 04, 2017, 08:56:28 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 03, 2017, 10:47:16 AM
This one is on I-94 west of Ann Arbor, MI

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FM8y42Tg.jpg&hash=09522be5ba5b750d3d7998cb2036f2cb5598167c)

What's really stupid about this one is that it replaced an unobstructed bridge-mounted sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDbDJIFK.jpg&hash=60f4574c421b34a096c9e099841af9acc711cf4b)

Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: csw on July 04, 2017, 10:34:43 PM
You should rename this thread "I-70 between Terre Haute and Indianapolis"
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: amroad17 on July 05, 2017, 11:04:28 PM
Many states' DOTs are getting rid of the bridge-mounted signs and erecting ground-mounted signs near those bridges.  Unfortunately, they do not clear the overhanging branches or trees that may be in the way.  I mean, you can see the above Exit 153 sign in late fall through early spring with no issue, however, once the leaves come back...

DOTs need to pay attention to this.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: mrsman on July 06, 2017, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: JJBers on July 03, 2017, 02:01:51 AM
Quote from: NE2 on July 03, 2017, 01:55:48 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jRYXeIef--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18nbo6l2cqopdjpg.jpg)
Well, we got one without the H.
We can pretty much guarantee that we won't see a similar sign in NY for our current president.
Title: Re: Trees/shrubs covering up signs
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 26, 2017, 06:36:01 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on July 05, 2017, 11:04:28 PM
Many states' DOTs are getting rid of the bridge-mounted signs and erecting ground-mounted signs near those bridges. 

Michigan isn't one of them -- plenty of new signs are still being mounted to bridges -- which is what makes the above example so exasperating.