For example: US 15 and US 501 run together for about 100 miles through NC. Many towns along the route refer to it as "15/501".
I-71/75 in Northern Kentucky (71/75). Also US 20/NY 5 in the Finger Lakes region of New York (20 and 5).
US 1 & US 9 in NJ is called (The) 1 & 9 (NJDOT even puts the numbers on the same shield).
CT 8 and CT 25 through Bridgeport is often called "The 8/25 connector"
US 202 and US 206 in NJ is referred to as Route 202/206.
In Providence, the US 6/RI 10 concurrency is called "The 6/10 freeway")
US 11-15 through the Central Susquehanna Valley is frequently called "eleven-fifteen" by locals. I've also heard many people say "22-322" in reference to the road through the Juniata Valley.
Rarely, I've heard "seventy-seventy-six" in reference to the overlap between Breezewood and New Stanton, but "the Turnpike" is far more common.
I know that the US 22-30 concurrency (along with I-376) is typically referred to as "Parkway East" or "Parkway West" depending on which side of Fort Pitt you're on, but what about the freeway that breaks off at Robinson toward Steubenville? Does anyone call that "twenty-two-thirty" ?
I would say Maryland Route 2-4 through Calvert County, since they're both separate significant corridors north of Sunderland.
Conversely, U.S. 50/301 from Bowie to Queenstown (also secret I-595 from Bowie to somewhere in Annapolis) is usually just referred to as Route 50 since that's the route associated with the drive to Ocean City.
In the Finger Lakes I'm pretty sure they called it "5 & 20", even though it's rightfully signed "20 & 5" (US 20 and NY 5).
When I was a kid, US-29 and US-211 ran together through Northern Virginia and it was common to hear people refer to "29/211," but since 211 was truncated to Warrenton that habit fell by the wayside years ago.
Sometimes they'll use 13 & 40 together in Delaware.
NY 106/NY 107 on Long Island is generally called by both numbers.
In MA, 4 & 225 (where they're concurrent) are called by both numbers.
Although it has not been US 21 for over three decades, and has not really bypassed town for longer than that, most oldtimers still call a road in Beckley WV "the 19-21 Bypass".
I-35/80 in the Des Moines area is often referred to as "80/35." There's even a music festival that goes by that name.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 06, 2017, 10:18:48 AM
I-35/80 in the Des Moines area is often referred to as "80/35." There's even a music festival that goes by that name.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the outer bypass of Des Moines is referred to as "65/5", despite the concurrency itself being only a mile or two.
Also, there's I-80/94 in Northwest Indiana
The most obvious example is in St. Louis. 64/40.
In Southern California, traffic reports commonly refer to the 57/60 and the 60/215.
Usually California doesn't do multiplexed routes, so the 60/215 is officially just I-215 (the definition of CA-60 has a break). However, the definitions of CA-60 and CA-57 don't have breaks, so they are technically multiplexed (although the bridge log and postmile services both list this segment as CA-60).
Quote from: pianocello on July 06, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 06, 2017, 10:18:48 AM
I-35/80 in the Des Moines area is often referred to as "80/35." There's even a music festival that goes by that name.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the outer bypass of Des Moines is referred to as "65/5", despite the concurrency itself being only a mile or two.
I personally have not ever heard that one. Usually I hear it just simply referred to as "the bypass" or the number of the section relevant to the conversation.
US 5/CT 15 is sometimes used, but its mostly called Route 15.
I-40/85 through central NC is referred to as such
Quote from: pianocello on July 06, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 06, 2017, 10:18:48 AM
I-35/80 in the Des Moines area is often referred to as "80/35." There's even a music festival that goes by that name.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the outer bypass of Des Moines is referred to as "65/5", despite the concurrency itself being only a mile or two.
Also, there's I-80/94 in Northwest Indiana
Yes, and there's 80/90 as well. Both also have names that get used 80/94 is "The Borman", and 80/90 is the "Indiana Toll Road" and "Ohio Turnpike". However, on Chicago radio, 80/94 is usually called that, and 80/90 is "The Toll Road" or "Indiana Toll Road".
The I-94/694 concurrency in the northwest part of the Twin Cities is referred to as 94/694 by many. This is not the case for I-494/MN 5, however.
I-75/85 through downtown Atlanta. Also "19/41" for the US routes from Atlanta down to Griffin.
In Idaho Springs, Colorado, there's the "6 & 40 Motel", named for the respective US routes. Not sure if that's what the road was referred to, though. Nowadays, both routes appear to be part of I-70 at that point.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6%2640_Motel_sign,_Idaho_Springs.jpg (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6%2640_Motel_sign,_Idaho_Springs.jpg)
In upstate New York, US-44 and State Route 55 run concurrently for a ways west of Poughkeepsie. Once or twice I heard that called 44-55.
Between Culpeper and Gainesville, VA, US-15 and US-29 run concurrently. Anyone know if this is ever called 15-29?
Someone else mentioned I-80 and I-90 in Indiana. They are also concurrent for about 2/3 of their run through Ohio. However, I've only ever heard that called the Ohio Turnpike.
A very long time ago (over 35 years), I read a newspaper article that I think was about a trend, at the time, of people posting public apologies for road-rage behaviors (!). The example was given was out of Chicago, where a woman wrote that she was really sorry about what she did on "80-90-94" the other day. Was there ever a time when all 3 routes were on the same highway? Note that it was not a Chicago newspaper where I read this.
US 20/26 through Boise is typically referred to as such when it is not referred to by the local street name.
I've heard the 1/301 overlap between Richmond and Petersburg called by each number, but rarely if ever both.
Quote from: hbelkins on July 06, 2017, 11:34:35 AM
The most obvious example is in St. Louis. 64/40.
I would dispute that -- at least my time spent in STL, many Locals simply refer to it still as 40
The first that came to mind for me is "9 and 20" east of Albany.
Any Wisconsinites want to contribute, whether I-90/94/39 between Madison and Portage, and then I-90/94 until Tomah, is locally designated as?
I've never really heard I-39/US 51 in IL called by both, nor I-90/I-39 -- thats still the Northwest/Jane Addams Tollway
I-90/94 in Chicago is commonly known as the Dan Ryan Expressway (south of the Jane Byrne Circle Interchange) and (JF)Kennedy Expressway (north of the Jane Byrne Circle), not by route numbers, anyway
Quote from: upstatenyroads on July 06, 2017, 07:20:10 AM
In the Finger Lakes I'm pretty sure they called it "5 & 20", even though it's rightfully signed "20 & 5" (US 20 and NY 5).
Yep. Always "5 and 20". Is the concurrency in Erie and Chautauqua counties also called "5 and 20" ?
I'm sure many call the long southern concurrency I-20/59
Another one is "Route 6 and 44" through Manchester, CT
I can think of 2 concurrencies that are never called by both numbers (except by a tourist): US 5/CT 15 (most call it the Berlin Turnpike or Route 15), and I-95/MA 128 (any Bostonian will self-destruct if you refer to it by the former).
Most concurrencies are referred to by one number only in Utah:
I-15/80 and I-15/84 are just I-15.
40/189 and 40/191 are just US 40 (189 is actually unsigned there)
6/89 and 6/191 are just US 6
Anything with an Interstate and a US is always just the Interstate
Exceptions: 89/91 and western 6/50.
In CO, US 6/24. 24 has been truncated, but there are still some signs hanging around on business addresses and on a few town street signs. Google names the Main Street of Glenwood Springs as "Hwy 6 & 24".
Thought of I-290 and IL 53 in the Schaumburg area -- its not usually called both numbers at the same time, but is often referred to Route 53 or I-290 or even Ike Extension (tho that is more proper to the "diagonal" segment between I-88/I-294 and I-355)
In Nebraska, I knew someone who referred to what is now US 75 south of Omaha as US 73/75, even though that concurrency ended in the 80's. I believe there is 73/75 Storage in Plattsmouth still.
In Ontario, Highways 7/8 and 35/115 tend to get both numbers mentioned. More so with the former. Most other overlaps either have one dominant route (eg, Hwy 403/24), or are known by another name in that particular area (eg, Thunder Bay Expwy, aka Hwy 11/17).
US 17/92/441 (Orange Blossom Trail) in the Orlando area is often referred to as "17/92".
Quote from: Brandon on July 06, 2017, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: pianocello on July 06, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 06, 2017, 10:18:48 AM
I-35/80 in the Des Moines area is often referred to as "80/35." There's even a music festival that goes by that name.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the outer bypass of Des Moines is referred to as "65/5", despite the concurrency itself being only a mile or two.
Also, there's I-80/94 in Northwest Indiana
Yes, and there's 80/90 as well. Both also have names that get used 80/94 is "The Borman", and 80/90 is the "Indiana Toll Road" and "Ohio Turnpike". However, on Chicago radio, 80/94 is usually called that, and 80/90 is "The Toll Road" or "Indiana Toll Road".
As a South Bend resident and frequent visitor to the Region, I can confirm that you're right about both the Borman and the Toll Road. Both are generally referred to by their names rather than numbers by locals. One occasionally hears the Borman called by one of it's numbers, but almost never by both.
In South Bend, we always know when advertising copy has been written by outsiders, when it refers to something being "just off I-80" (or I-90 or I-80/90), rather than the Toll Road.
Quote from: lepidopteran on July 06, 2017, 06:48:47 PM
A very long time ago (over 35 years), I read a newspaper article that I think was about a trend, at the time, of people posting public apologies for road-rage behaviors (!). The example was given was out of Chicago, where a woman wrote that she was really sorry about what she did on "80-90-94" the other day. Was there ever a time when all 3 routes were on the same highway? Note that it was not a Chicago newspaper where I read this.
I would be very surprised to hear that 80, 90, and 94 ever shared the same pavement. I've never seen a map that showed that, and I've been studying Chicagoland maps for nearly 60 years.
The big ones in New York (all mentioned previously) are:
US 20/NY 5 ("5 and 20"). This mainly applies to the long concurrency in the Finger Lakes, not the short one in Irving.
US 44/NY 55 ("44 55"). I have NEVER heard this by another name.
NY 106/NY 107 ("106 107"). It's worth noting that these are some of the ONLY roads on LI frequently referred to by number.
US 9/US 20 ("9 and 20"). Occasionally called by name.
Other ones I have heard at least once, but not often:
US 4/NY 32 ("4 and 32")
US 6/US 202 ("6 and 202")
Quote from: lepidopteran on July 06, 2017, 06:48:47 PM
In Idaho Springs, Colorado, there's the "6 & 40 Motel", named for the respective US routes. Not sure if that's what the road was referred to, though.
You are correct about US-6/US-40 running through Idaho Springs.
Other multiplexed road names which are referred to as such in Colorado:
- "Highway 6 & 24" -- pretty much what's left of the old highway in Glenwood Springs -- despite US-24 being long truncated back to the Minturn/Vail area, US-6 technically still runs along that road.
- "Highway 6 & 50" -- runs from just west of downtown Grand Junction to the Utah line on the pre-I-70 alignment of US 6. Some areas along this highway drop the "50" on their addresses as US-50 West "technically" ends at BL-70 in downtown GJ as far as CDOT is concerned.
CDOT does not like to sign/denote multiplexed routes on BL-70, nor along vast stretches of US-6/US-50 which parallel I-70 in Colorado, hence the "technicality".
I've heard "Along the old 71 Highway or the new I-49" in radio ads in Kansas City for a business or two along that stretch in Grandview.
Typically, it's not called something like "49 and 71" by most, but it is interchangeably known by both numbers.
US 31A and US 41A have a concurrency in Williamson County going into Metro Nashville/Davidson County. In the southern portion many call the route 31/41 without the A.
Quote from: upstatenyroads on July 06, 2017, 07:20:10 AM
In the Finger Lakes I'm pretty sure they called it "5 & 20", even though it's rightfully signed "20 & 5" (US 20 and NY 5).
Come to think of it, you are correct. The locals do say 5 and 20.
US 36 & SR 37 in Ohio (at least the exit with I-71) is called 36/37
Do New Jerseyans call US 1-9 "US 1-9"?
Quote from: DeaconG on July 07, 2017, 01:43:33 PM
US 17/92/441 (Orange Blossom Trail) in the Orlando area is often referred to as "17/92".
Street signs in Seminole County even say "US 17-92." I think that's also the case in Volusia County.
Locals usually refer to US 441 in the Orlando area as Orange Blossom Trail or OBT, including the section with the 3-way concurrency with 17-92.
I remember seeing a few signs/businesses on US 17 between Georgetown and Charleston SC with US 17/701, and it may still occasionally be referred to as such. According to usends.com (http://www.usends.com/charleston.html), US 701 was truncated to Georgetown in 1992, although it had been a useless multiplex with 17 since 1935.
I-80/90 through IN and OH.
I-65/70 in downtown Indy
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 10, 2017, 07:03:20 AM
I-80/90 through IN and OH.
Prior posts claim otherwise, if we stick to common usage (emphasis added; irrelevant quotes removed):
Quote from: theline on July 07, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 06, 2017, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: pianocello on July 06, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
Also, there's I-80/94 in Northwest Indiana
Yes, and there's 80/90 as well. Both also have names that get used 80/94 is "The Borman", and 80/90 is the "Indiana Toll Road" and "Ohio Turnpike". However, on Chicago radio, 80/94 is usually called that, and 80/90 is "The Toll Road" or "Indiana Toll Road".
As a South Bend resident and frequent visitor to the Region, I can confirm that you're right about both the Borman and the Toll Road. Both are generally referred to by their names rather than numbers by locals. One occasionally hears the Borman called by one of it's numbers, but almost never by both.
In South Bend, we always know when advertising copy has been written by outsiders, when it refers to something being "just off I-80" (or I-90 or I-80/90), rather than the Toll Road.
Quote from: corco on July 06, 2017, 07:15:34 PM
US 20/26 through Boise is typically referred to as such when it is not referred to by the local street name.
I can confirm, and I came here to say this. However, probably 80% (or more) of the time you'll hear just "Chinden" for the segment west of downtown Boise (which is actually quite well signed through all of Ada County, all the way up to Can-Ada Rd. at the county line). It doesn't take on this name in Canyon County at all (most signs I can see on GSV say "Hwy 20/26" or similar, and there doesn't seem to be any local name until Aviation Way in Caldwell, where you can pretty clearly see the cutoff (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6628269,-116.6531004,3a,19.7y,24.65h,95.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVQP0iDtCiMPnAKAb0Giigw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)), though people would probably know what you're talking about if you said it. The Canyon County segments (both east and especially west of Caldwell) are where you're most likely to hear the route numbers used.
Broadway, Front, and Myrtle Streets, in addition the the freeway segment in west downtown ("The Connector"), you'll never hear route numbers there (though they are signed decently well).
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 06, 2017, 07:20:53 AM
When I was a kid, US-29 and US-211 ran together through Northern Virginia and it was common to hear people refer to "29/211," but since 211 was truncated to Warrenton that habit fell by the wayside years ago.
I've heard some people refer to the segment of US 29 between Warrenton and DC as 29/211 long after US 211 was truncated, though not recently.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on July 10, 2017, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 06, 2017, 07:20:53 AM
When I was a kid, US-29 and US-211 ran together through Northern Virginia and it was common to hear people refer to "29/211," but since 211 was truncated to Warrenton that habit fell by the wayside years ago.
I've heard some people refer to the segment of US 29 between Warrenton and DC as 29/211 long after US 211 was truncated, though not recently.
I've heard the US-15/US-29 concurrency between Culpeper and Gainesville referred to as 15/29 several times. Also, although less frequently, I've heard 29/211 referenced as well. Interestingly enough however, I don't believe many refer to the US-15/US-17/US-29 concurrency between Opal and Warrenton as 15/17/29. Either for some reason people think US-17 ends/begins in Opal or maybe its just too hard to say 15/17/29.
U.S. 85-87 leave I-25 and go through the suburbs south of Colorado Springs. The street name is "Highway 85-87". Thing is, only U.S. 85 is posted by the state.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on July 10, 2017, 10:03:37 PM
U.S. 85-87 leave I-25 and go through the suburbs south of Colorado Springs. The street name is "Highway 85-87". Thing is, only U.S. 85 is posted by the state.
I thought only US 85 left 25, and 87 was concurrent with 25 the entire way through CO.
But how much US 85 signage is there, really? IIRC, the last time I was down there, 85 signage was poor to nonexistent)
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 06, 2017, 09:46:12 AM
In MA, 4 & 225 (where they're concurrent) are called by both numbers.
That is generally the case, although recently I've heard some of the traffic reporters referring to it as just 4.
Near Toledo, OH, most of I-475 is concurrent with US-23. The concurrency is a little strange at their junction between the two, since I-475 gives the appearance of exiting to the right (east), while the US-23 freeway continues northward, unabated, well into the state of Michigan.
In any case, I used to call that stretch of highway "Four-seventy-five twenty-three". Not sure if anyone else did/does, though.
Heard another one today during a traffic report, "24-40 Highway" was called for as a detour for I-70. That'd be the stretch of US 24 and 40 between Lawrence and Bonner Springs on the Kansas side.
I imagine the eastern half of the Capital Beltway is called I-95/I-495, at least to outsiders anyway.
Quote from: DeaconG on July 07, 2017, 01:43:33 PM
US 17/92/441 (Orange Blossom Trail) in the Orlando area is often referred to as "17/92".
No mostly four-fortyone. Only seventeen ninety-two where the two run from SR 50 to DeLand. Some say that the section from Kissimmee to Lake Alfred is that too, but I have heard traffic reports call the Osceola County section as Orange Blossom Trail. As far as Polk County goes, it never makes the reports as that is mainly Tampa's radio coverage.
BTW the sign on the traffic light at the WalMart grocery market north of SR 417 says "US 441" and not even OBT as the rest say. That light was added because Walmart paid for it and always brings heavy traffic with it, so its needed despite adding an extra five minutes of travel time through the intersection.
Quote from: Henry on July 12, 2017, 10:02:30 AM
I imagine the eastern half of the Capital Beltway is called I-95/I-495, at least to outsiders anyway.
I've just heard "The Beltway" most of the time, and occasionally 495.
Quote from: Henry on July 12, 2017, 10:02:30 AM
I imagine the eastern half of the Capital Beltway is called I-95/I-495, at least to outsiders anyway.
I never hear anyone say that. Similarly, when I lived in North Carolina I never heard anyone refer to the southern part of the Beltline as I-40/I-440 either (I-440 has since been deleted from that portion).
Quote from: Takumi on July 06, 2017, 07:34:56 PM
I've heard the 1/301 overlap between Richmond and Petersburg called by each number, but rarely if ever both.
Yeah I can't really think of many Virginia examples myself outside of the US 29 ones mentioned, despite the numerous duplexes around the state. The only one I've heard myself is VA 10/32 being called "10 32". US 1/301 is rarely even called a number, just the street names mostly. Even the interstates: the I-95/I-64 one is always called just "95" and the I-81/I-64 one is "81".
I wonder what people in Danville call US 29/58? I've been in the area several times but I've never heard the locals discuss the road.
I know a couple of guys from Danville and have always heard them refer simply to 29. However, that could also be because I've usually encountered them in Charlottesville and they might figure the rest of us know 29 a lot better than 58 (probably true).
Quote from: plain on July 12, 2017, 11:06:19 PM
Quote from: Takumi on July 06, 2017, 07:34:56 PM
I've heard the 1/301 overlap between Richmond and Petersburg called by each number, but rarely if ever both.
Yeah I can't really think of many Virginia examples myself outside of the US 29 ones mentioned, despite the numerous duplexes around the state. The only one I've heard myself is VA 10/32 being called "10 32". US 1/301 is rarely even called a number, just the street names mostly. Even the interstates: the I-95/I-64 one is always called just "95" and the I-81/I-64 one is "81".
I wonder what people in Danville call US 29/58? I've been in the area several times but I've never heard the locals discuss the road.
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 13, 2017, 07:26:31 AM
I know a couple of guys from Danville and have always heard them refer simply to 29. However, that could also be because I've usually encountered them in Charlottesville and they might figure the rest of us know 29 a lot better than 58 (probably true).
I've generally only heard people in Danville refer to the whole thing as 29.
Quote from: theline on July 10, 2017, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 10, 2017, 07:03:20 AM
I-80/90 through IN and OH.
Prior posts claim otherwise, if we stick to common usage (emphasis added; irrelevant quotes removed):
Quote from: theline on July 07, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 06, 2017, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: pianocello on July 06, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
Also, there's I-80/94 in Northwest Indiana
Yes, and there's 80/90 as well. Both also have names that get used 80/94 is "The Borman", and 80/90 is the "Indiana Toll Road" and "Ohio Turnpike". However, on Chicago radio, 80/94 is usually called that, and 80/90 is "The Toll Road" or "Indiana Toll Road".
As a South Bend resident and frequent visitor to the Region, I can confirm that you're right about both the Borman and the Toll Road. Both are generally referred to by their names rather than numbers by locals. One occasionally hears the Borman called by one of it's numbers, but almost never by both.
In South Bend, we always know when advertising copy has been written by outsiders, when it refers to something being "just off I-80" (or I-90 or I-80/90), rather than the Toll Road.
Having grown up in the South Bend area, you're right that nobody called it 80/90 but called it the Toll Road, but when I moved to Chicago the road was much more commonly referred to 80/90.
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 07, 2017, 02:06:23 AM
Thought of I-290 and IL 53 in the Schaumburg area -- its not usually called both numbers at the same time, but is often referred to Route 53 or I-290 or even Ike Extension (tho that is more proper to the "diagonal" segment between I-88/I-294 and I-355)
You'll hear, from time to time, "355 Route 53 Combo" on WBBM for the entire route from Lake Cook Road to I-80. I-290 never seems to exist there, sort of like I-96 doesn't really exist in people's minds between M-14 and I-696 around Detroit.
(There's a whole other thread, routes that are primary that don't exist in people's minds, or on the traffic reports.)
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 06, 2017, 07:20:53 AM
When I was a kid, US-29 and US-211 ran together through Northern Virginia and it was common to hear people refer to "29/211," but since 211 was truncated to Warrenton that habit fell by the wayside years ago.
Yes, I remember that too! Then again, nothing else is the same in NoVA as it was back in the day.
Quote from: plain on July 12, 2017, 11:06:19 PMEven the interstates: the I-95/I-64 one is always called just "95" and the I-81/I-64 one is "81".
You're forgetting the famous I-81/I-77 wrong-way concurrency near Wytheville! Pretty sure that one is referenced by both names because of how irregular it is.
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 13, 2017, 09:32:39 AM
Quote from: theline on July 10, 2017, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 10, 2017, 07:03:20 AM
I-80/90 through IN and OH.
Prior posts claim otherwise, if we stick to common usage (emphasis added; irrelevant quotes removed):
Quote from: theline on July 07, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 06, 2017, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: pianocello on July 06, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
Also, there's I-80/94 in Northwest Indiana
Yes, and there's 80/90 as well. Both also have names that get used 80/94 is "The Borman", and 80/90 is the "Indiana Toll Road" and "Ohio Turnpike". However, on Chicago radio, 80/94 is usually called that, and 80/90 is "The Toll Road" or "Indiana Toll Road".
As a South Bend resident and frequent visitor to the Region, I can confirm that you're right about both the Borman and the Toll Road. Both are generally referred to by their names rather than numbers by locals. One occasionally hears the Borman called by one of it's numbers, but almost never by both.
In South Bend, we always know when advertising copy has been written by outsiders, when it refers to something being "just off I-80" (or I-90 or I-80/90), rather than the Toll Road.
Having grown up in the South Bend area, you're right that nobody called it 80/90 but called it the Toll Road, but when I moved to Chicago the road was much more commonly referred to 80/90.
I don't know many Chicagoans, so I'll figure you're right. However folks I know from Lake County, IN call it the Toll Road.
Quote from: DTComposer on July 06, 2017, 02:22:09 PM
In Southern California, traffic reports commonly refer to the 57/60 and the 60/215.
Usually California doesn't do multiplexed routes, so the 60/215 is officially just I-215 (the definition of CA-60 has a break). However, the definitions of CA-60 and CA-57 don't have breaks, so they are technically multiplexed (although the bridge log and postmile services both list this segment as CA-60).
When I lived in CA, I don't remember hearing about these multiplexes referred to as such. Granted, these are very short multiplexes.
Traditionally, the SoCAl reporters referrred to most freeways by name. So an incident will be reported as "in Diamond Bar, on the Pomona Fwy eastbound at the split to the northbound 57." Technically, this section is both 57 and 60, but to most people's mind Pomona Fwy = 60. But yes, an incident like this would also affect through traffic on the 57 northbound as well.
I wonder if people refer to the 5/10 multiplex as such. (I don't remember such usage in common talk.) Again, the old traffic reporters would just say "on the Golden State just north of the East LA interchange at 4th Street." This denotes a problem for the I-5 obviously, but also affects traffic on the I-10. A big enough problem would affect every freeway coming out of the ELA interchange. But since I never heard the term, I don't think anyone ever referred to the 5/10. Sometimes, the road would be referred to as the transition of the Santa Monica to the San Bernardino, but this stretch is basically the transition of any of Santa Monica/Pomona/Santa Ana to the San Bernardino/Golden State so no good terminology exists for this road, other than calling it the Golden State Fwy and people having to know that traffic following the I-10 uses the Golden State Fwy for 1 mile on the transition from Santa Monica to San Bernardino.
I don't remember any reference to 215/60 in Riverside. When I lived in SoCal, (1970's to 1990's) there were very few traffic problems so far away from LA. I think this stretch may have been referred to as the Moreno Valley Fwy and understood to affect both 60 and 215 traffic. Heck for most of my days, the 215 wasn't even a full freeway (was known as CA-215) between the 60 and I-15 in Temecula so it was largely unreported territory by the traffic reporters.
Quote from: mrsman on August 27, 2017, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: DTComposer on July 06, 2017, 02:22:09 PM
In Southern California, traffic reports commonly refer to the 57/60 and the 60/215.
Usually California doesn't do multiplexed routes, so the 60/215 is officially just I-215 (the definition of CA-60 has a break). However, the definitions of CA-60 and CA-57 don't have breaks, so they are technically multiplexed (although the bridge log and postmile services both list this segment as CA-60).
When I lived in CA, I don't remember hearing about these multiplexes referred to as such. Granted, these are very short multiplexes.
Traditionally, the SoCAl reporters referrred to most freeways by name. So an incident will be reported as "in Diamond Bar, on the Pomona Fwy eastbound at the split to the northbound 57." Technically, this section is both 57 and 60, but to most people's mind Pomona Fwy = 60. But yes, an incident like this would also affect through traffic on the 57 northbound as well.
I wonder if people refer to the 5/10 multiplex as such. (I don't remember such usage in common talk.) Again, the old traffic reporters would just say "on the Golden State just north of the East LA interchange at 4th Street." This denotes a problem for the I-5 obviously, but also affects traffic on the I-10. A big enough problem would affect every freeway coming out of the ELA interchange. But since I never heard the term, I don't think anyone ever referred to the 5/10. Sometimes, the road would be referred to as the transition of the Santa Monica to the San Bernardino, but this stretch is basically the transition of any of Santa Monica/Pomona/Santa Ana to the San Bernardino/Golden State so no good terminology exists for this road, other than calling it the Golden State Fwy and people having to know that traffic following the I-10 uses the Golden State Fwy for 1 mile on the transition from Santa Monica to San Bernardino.
I don't remember any reference to 215/60 in Riverside. When I lived in SoCal, (1970's to 1990's) there were very few traffic problems so far away from LA. I think this stretch may have been referred to as the Moreno Valley Fwy and understood to affect both 60 and 215 traffic. Heck for most of my days, the 215 wasn't even a full freeway (was known as CA-215) between the 60 and I-15 in Temecula so it was largely unreported territory by the traffic reporters.
I've been out of SoCal about three years now, but I'm still down there four-five times a year. KNX reguarly uses 60/215; 57/60 not as much (other than calling it the "57/60 split") but I still hear it at least once every time I'm there. I don't recall ever hearing mention of the 5/10 multiplex.
Over the time I lived there (1997-2014) they started backing off using freeway names as much (I assume as Caltrans started leaving the names off BGSs) - or they would use number and name - I hear "the 10 San Bernardino Freeway" or "the 170 portion of the Hollywood Freeway" and such a lot - but they still do use them.
I wonder for someone new to the area if it's at all confusing, as names are less and less common on signage, or if they manage to make the connections through repetition, context, and the few signs that are left.
North Carolina has another 100+ mile concurrency, this time two state routes: NC 24 and NC 27. I have heard it called "24/27" by people from all along the corridor.
US 7/US 20 south of Pittsfield is usually referred to as "7 and 20".
Nevada has a couple:
I-515/US 93/US 95 in SE Las Vegas/Henderson. Until the mid 1990s when 515 was initially signed, the stretch was commonly referred to only as US 95 ("the 95" )–US 93 was (and still is) disregarded due to it not being the through route at the Spaghetti Bowl downtown. It took about 10 or so years, but the interstate is now more commonly ingrained in the local vernacular, so people are more likely to refer to that stretch as I-515 ("the 515" ).
I-580/US 395 from Reno to Carson City. People refer to the concurrency as both. However, I think more people have switched to calling it "580" than "395" since it was signed in 2012.
In both cases, the US route number was established long before the Interstate number was signed, which leads to differences in how people refer to them based on how long one has lived in an area. Also, in both cases, local traffic reports now tend to favor using the US highway number only on sections north of the respective Spaghetti Bowls (where the US route is the sole designation) and the Interstate number along the overlapping section–this practice helps listeners immediately distinguish what part of the freeway the information applies to.
Quote from: Brandon on July 13, 2017, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 07, 2017, 02:06:23 AM
Thought of I-290 and IL 53 in the Schaumburg area -- its not usually called both numbers at the same time, but is often referred to Route 53 or I-290 or even Ike Extension (tho that is more proper to the "diagonal" segment between I-88/I-294 and I-355)
You'll hear, from time to time, "355 Route 53 Combo" on WBBM for the entire route from Lake Cook Road to I-80. I-290 never seems to exist there, sort of like I-96 doesn't really exist in people's minds between M-14 and I-696 around Detroit.
(There's a whole other thread, routes that are primary that don't exist in people's minds, or on the traffic reports.)
Agreed. My time in Chicagoland basicly predates the I-355 era and back then the traffic reports always mentioned time from Austin to the Post office, the Tristate to the Post Office, and 53 to the Post Office when talking about the Ike corridor. When they did give traffic reports on the 53 corridor (usually evening rush not morning for some reason) they would say that 53 was running x minutes from Army Trail to Lake-Cook giving no mention of 290 at all.
I've heard "80-94" on Chicago radio on multiple visits to the region to describe the Illinois side of the interstate concurrency.
The concurrency of US 67 & US 167 in Arkansas is referred to by most in the area as "67-167."
I wonder how they will do down there as that road eventually becomes part of an extended I-57 (30?)... Us Missourians aren't taking kindly to the conversions of US 40-61 and US 71, respectively, to Interstates 64 and 49.
I'm not even sure the number 64 is within the capabilites of Missouri-side STL region vocabulary. KC Traffic reporters and the city of Grandview, MO, public works are trying their damndest to break Kansas Citians into "I/Interstate 49," but KC area public (including me) and Grandview businesses won't leave "71 Highway" alone...
I-41/US-41.
/me ducks and runs for cover.
Quote from: kphoger on December 14, 2017, 12:24:01 PM
I-41/US-41.
/me ducks and runs for cover.
LOL That made me laugh out loud. Good job sir. :rofl:
Quote from: kphoger on December 14, 2017, 12:24:01 PM
I-41/US-41.
/me ducks and runs for cover.
But wouldn't that imply that people are calling it "forty-one/forty-one"? :)
Is I-41 and US 41 co-signed?
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on December 15, 2017, 01:31:17 PM
Is I-41 and US 41 co-signed?
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on December 15, 2017, 07:37:12 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 14, 2017, 12:24:01 PM
I-41/US-41.
/me ducks and runs for cover.
But wouldn't that imply that people are calling it "forty-one/forty-one"? :)
People who stutter.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on December 15, 2017, 01:31:17 PM
Is I-41 and US 41 co-signed?
(can of worms)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/midwest/i-041_us-041_045_sb_exit_040_01.jpg)
I often wondered about US 1 & 9 in NJ. Yes signs call it now the 1 & 9 and the traffic reporters called it one and nine, but many who lived where I grew up called it Route 1 for the most part.
Cincinnati traffic reporters refer to "71/75" for northern Kentucky and "71" and "75" separately for Ohio.
Although I think people in eastern Kentucky (around Floyd County) refer to US 23/US 460 as "The Four-Lane," I swear I've heard people refer to it by both of its routes occasionally.
Downtown connector Atlanta refered to I-75/I-85.
Quote from: 2000_Watts on December 14, 2017, 12:15:53 PM
The concurrency of US 67 & US 167 in Arkansas is referred to by most in the area as "67-167."
I wonder how they will do down there as that road eventually becomes part of an extended I-57 (30?)... Us Missourians aren't taking kindly to the conversions of US 40-61 and US 71, respectively, to Interstates 64 and 49.
I imagine it'll still be called 67-167 for quite some time after I-57 is signed. It's been called that since the early 1960s, so old habits will die hard.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 15, 2017, 09:48:22 PM
Cincinnati traffic reporters refer to "71/75" for northern Kentucky and "71" and "75" separately for Ohio.
Given that the concurrency in OH is less than a mile, that's not too surprising.
In Atlanta, in addition to I-75-85 (aka the Downtown Connector) and US 19-41 on the south side, I've also heard Georgia 400 outside the Perimeter where it has a concurrency with US 19 called 19/400 before, but more commonly it's just called 400.
Quote from: DTComposer on November 09, 2017, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 27, 2017, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: DTComposer on July 06, 2017, 02:22:09 PM
In Southern California, traffic reports commonly refer to the 57/60 and the 60/215.
Usually California doesn't do multiplexed routes, so the 60/215 is officially just I-215 (the definition of CA-60 has a break). However, the definitions of CA-60 and CA-57 don't have breaks, so they are technically multiplexed (although the bridge log and postmile services both list this segment as CA-60).
When I lived in CA, I don't remember hearing about these multiplexes referred to as such. Granted, these are very short multiplexes.
Traditionally, the SoCAl reporters referrred to most freeways by name. So an incident will be reported as "in Diamond Bar, on the Pomona Fwy eastbound at the split to the northbound 57." Technically, this section is both 57 and 60, but to most people's mind Pomona Fwy = 60. But yes, an incident like this would also affect through traffic on the 57 northbound as well.
I wonder if people refer to the 5/10 multiplex as such. (I don't remember such usage in common talk.) Again, the old traffic reporters would just say "on the Golden State just north of the East LA interchange at 4th Street." This denotes a problem for the I-5 obviously, but also affects traffic on the I-10. A big enough problem would affect every freeway coming out of the ELA interchange. But since I never heard the term, I don't think anyone ever referred to the 5/10. Sometimes, the road would be referred to as the transition of the Santa Monica to the San Bernardino, but this stretch is basically the transition of any of Santa Monica/Pomona/Santa Ana to the San Bernardino/Golden State so no good terminology exists for this road, other than calling it the Golden State Fwy and people having to know that traffic following the I-10 uses the Golden State Fwy for 1 mile on the transition from Santa Monica to San Bernardino.
I don't remember any reference to 215/60 in Riverside. When I lived in SoCal, (1970's to 1990's) there were very few traffic problems so far away from LA. I think this stretch may have been referred to as the Moreno Valley Fwy and understood to affect both 60 and 215 traffic. Heck for most of my days, the 215 wasn't even a full freeway (was known as CA-215) between the 60 and I-15 in Temecula so it was largely unreported territory by the traffic reporters.
I've been out of SoCal about three years now, but I'm still down there four-five times a year. KNX reguarly uses 60/215; 57/60 not as much (other than calling it the "57/60 split") but I still hear it at least once every time I'm there. I don't recall ever hearing mention of the 5/10 multiplex.
Over the time I lived there (1997-2014) they started backing off using freeway names as much (I assume as Caltrans started leaving the names off BGSs) - or they would use number and name - I hear "the 10 San Bernardino Freeway" or "the 170 portion of the Hollywood Freeway" and such a lot - but they still do use them.
I wonder for someone new to the area if it's at all confusing, as names are less and less common on signage, or if they manage to make the connections through repetition, context, and the few signs that are left.
Given the trend to not sign the names of the SoCal freeways, it makes sense to stop using the names, other than when it is helpful for navigation. So for freeways that have one number and one name for its entire length (at least within most of the Southland) like 405/San Diego Freeway; 22/Garden Grove Freeway; 57/Orange Freeway; and 210/Foothill Fwy just use the number.
On the other hand, the names still are useful to distinguish whether a problem is east or west of Downtown on certain stretches. That is why you still would hear references to the 10/Santa Monica and 10/San Bernardino; 5/Golden State and 5/Santa Ana; 101/Ventura; 134/Ventura; 170/Hollywood; 101/Hollywood; 101/Santa Ana; 110/Harbor; and 110/Arroyo Seco. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are probably the only ones that are still named in traffic reports.
The 91 freeway also has different names, but there is quite a bit of confusion as to whether the western part should be the Artesia Fwy, Redondo Beach Fwy, or Gardena Fwy. I believe this is only referred to as the 91 today.
Twice in the past week, I heard a local TV reporter commit a faux paux for our area. The Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) is most often referred to either by it's name, or route 15. Twice, a reporter mentioned an accident on route 5 in Berlin. The only parts of route 5 that are referred as such are the standalone parts from Meriden south and East Hartford north. It's almost as bad a local faux paux as referring to any duplexed portion of route 202 as route 202 rather than route 6, route 7, route 44 or route 10.
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 06, 2017, 08:46:58 PM
Any Wisconsinites want to contribute, whether I-90/94/39 between Madison and Portage, and then I-90/94 until Tomah, is locally designated as?
still referred to by 90/94 from inside Madison (on the signs)
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 06, 2017, 08:46:58 PM
I've never really heard I-39/US 51 in IL called by both, nor I-90/I-39 -- thats still the Northwest/Jane Addams Tollway
The Tollway - or I-90.
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 06, 2017, 08:46:58 PM
I-90/94 in Chicago is commonly known as the Dan Ryan Expressway (south of the Jane Byrne Circle Interchange) and (JF)Kennedy Expressway (north of the Jane Byrne Circle), not by route numbers, anyway
Already covered.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on December 15, 2017, 07:37:12 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 14, 2017, 12:24:01 PM
I-41/US-41.
/me ducks and runs for cover.
But wouldn't that imply that people are calling it "forty-one/forty-one"? :)
In general Wisconsinites refer to any route as Highway ##. Thus where you refer to this one is Highway 41. Old abbreviations? HWY 41. Locals would still refer to it as Highway 45 if they didn't think about it. Also I-94 south of Milwaukee - Highway 94. I-41 is just a fart.
I-39 is an odd duck. It gets referred to by the officials all the way through (in general the DOT refers to the combo as I-90 from Tomah to Cascade Mt. and as I-39 from there to the IL state line in official DOT documentation.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 07, 2018, 10:33:21 AM
Twice in the past week, I heard a local TV reporter commit a faux paux for our area. The Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) is most often referred to either by it's name, or route 15. Twice, a reporter mentioned an accident on route 5 in Berlin. The only parts of route 5 that are referred as such are the standalone parts from Meriden south and East Hartford north. It's almost as bad a local faux paux as referring to any duplexed portion of route 202 as route 202 rather than route 6, route 7, route 44 or route 10.
So the state route number takes precedence over the US number? That's really weird to me.
Quote from: roadguy2 on January 07, 2018, 04:37:01 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 07, 2018, 10:33:21 AM
Twice in the past week, I heard a local TV reporter commit a faux paux for our area. The Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) is most often referred to either by it's name, or route 15. Twice, a reporter mentioned an accident on route 5 in Berlin. The only parts of route 5 that are referred as such are the standalone parts from Meriden south and East Hartford north. It's almost as bad a local faux paux as referring to any duplexed portion of route 202 as route 202 rather than route 6, route 7, route 44 or route 10.
So the state route number takes precedence over the US number? That's really weird to me.
In the case of 202: 6, 7, and 44 are US routes that US 202 piggybacks on as it travels generally southwest to northeast, plus US 202's routing through CT was changed in 1974. The reason why CT (and MA) 10 take precedence is because route 10 is a multi-state (also goes into NH) route that is primarily north-south, and 202 turns from east-west on the 44 duplex to north-south on the 10 duplex in Avon, then leaves to the east in Westfield, MA.
As for 15 over 5: 15 is the thru route at both ends of the duplex. At the south end, US 5 transitions to a 2 lane city street as it leaves the turnpike while 15 becomes the Wilbur Cross Parkway. At the north end, US 5 exits from the expressway while 15 continues another mile on the expressway to merge into I-84 and end (use to extend to Sturbridge, MA).
39/90 and 90/94 are both referred to as such in Wisconsin.
Ontario Highway 35/115 is referred to as such.
There is also the QEW/403 concurrency, but I'm not sure if people say both...