Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
Speaking from Utah, I can honestly say I have never heard this anywhere. It's definitely not a West thing.
I often say it incorrectly, and then immediately I correct myself. I almost always say "buyed" when someone asks me if I bought [specific item], to which I sometimes reply "I buyed it -- sorry, bought it".
I don't hear anyone else say it. I think I'm just retarded.
EDIT 18 SEP: My original post suggested that I use "buyed" intentionally, which is not the case.
I always say bought; never hear buyed. I usually hear "brang" from young kids, but sometimes, I'll use "done brung" kind of tongue in cheek.
One in these parts is whether you wait in line or wait on line. The latter is kind of a New York area thing.
The one that drives me crazy is hung. It's fine if you did it to the stockings by the chimney with care, but it's incorrect when it refers to having being put to the gallows; that would be hanged
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on September 15, 2017, 11:58:54 PM
I always say bought; never hear buyed. I usually hear "brang" from young kids, but sometimes, I'll use "done brung" kind of tongue in cheek.
One in these parts is whether you wait in line or wait on line. The latter is kind of a New York area thing.
The one that drives me crazy is hung. It's fine if you did it to the stockings by the chimney with care, but it's incorrect when it refers to having being put to the gallows; that would be hanged
Pictures hung, people are hanged....
Well some men are hung LOL
LGMS428
I've never heard "buyed" except as an accident, and a rare one at that.
I was always taught that the words "brang" & "buyed" do not exist as proper English or as any correct form of spelled words.
My teachers learned me to use the correct words.
My Ben & Jerry's make your own tie-dye shirt says:
I tied it
I dyed it
I buyed it
No, no I do not.
Though that's not to say there aren't any other verbs I do interesting things with. I fairly consistently use "dreamt" (rhymes with "tempt") as the past tense of "dream". This is technically not incorrect - however it is less common/possibly somewhat archaic, and I've had amateur language police harass me about it.
Quote from: Duke87 on September 16, 2017, 10:36:21 AM
No, no I do not.
Though that's not to say there aren't any other verbs I do interesting things with. I fairly consistently use "dreamt" (rhymes with "tempt") as the past tense of "dream". This is technically not incorrect - however it is less common/possibly somewhat archaic, and I've had amateur language police harass me about it.
I use "dreamt" pretty often, not always. It is correct. You have my permission to swat the language police on the nose with the OED if they try to tell you otherwise.
Why would anyone older than, say, five years old say "buyed"?
I say pled instead of pleaded, and I'd swear until a few years ago EVERYONE else did too, and now I'm the only one . . .
Quote from: Jardine on September 16, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
I say pled instead of pleaded, and I'd swear until a few years ago EVERYONE else did too, and now I'm the only one . . .
The one that's puzzled me recently is the media using "admonishment" instead of "admonition," especially because the media usually opt for the form that uses fewer characters for space reasons (this is one major reason why the Associated Press omits the serial comma, for example).
When did 'busted' get approved, BTW ?
And what's wrong with 'broken' ??
I never say "buyed", but I'll somtimes say "broke" instead of "braked". It's annoying that the past tense of "break" and "brake" are different.
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
I'v never used "buyed" unless I was deliberately making fun of either the language as a whole or trying to sound childlike.
I've definitely used "byed" as a verbal form "to take a rest or to have no scheduled game for the period of time when everyone else is playing".
"How did you guys do in round 5?"
"We byed".
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I usually say "bought," but sometimes I'll accidentally say "buyed," but it doesn't matter to me.
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
I am heavily one as well. Other people, including my mom, scold me when I say "brang," but I refuse to believe that "brang" and "brung" are not legitimate words. They are intensely a part of my personal vocabulary.
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
No, I don't say "buyed." I say "bought" Or perhaps "got." As in, "I got a package of paper towels at the store like you wanted, honey."
I don't say "brang" but sometimes my rural eastern Kentucky Appalachian-American upbringing comes out and I will say "brung." As in, "I brung those paper towels in when I got home and put them on the kitchen counter."
Quote from: Jardine on September 16, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
I say pled instead of pleaded, and I'd swear until a few years ago EVERYONE else did too, and now I'm the only one . . .
"Pleaded" is AP style. I used to say "pled" but being a newspaper editor broke me of that. Now, I cringe when I see a media outlet report that someone pled guilty instead of pleaded guilty. I think either are correct according to the dictionary, but pleaded is the correct journalistic term.
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
Midwest thing? Dude, you're from Kentucky, which is The South, not in any way, shape, or form, the Midwest.
Never heard this.
Quote from: Brandon on September 16, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
Midwest thing? Dude, you're from Kentucky, which is The South, not in any way, shape, or form, the Midwest.
He's from the suburbs of Cincinnati. Do things really change that much just by crossing the Ohio River?
I say "comprado". The only thing is that English is not my first language :sombrero:. Should I use the word in English, it's always "bought". It's nice to see dialectal differences, as it happens with most, if not all, languages.
Quote from: 1 on September 16, 2017, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: Brandon on September 16, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
Midwest thing? Dude, you're from Kentucky, which is The South, not in any way, shape, or form, the Midwest.
He's from the suburbs of Cincinnati. Do things really change that much just by crossing the Ohio River?
Despite the fact that much of northern Kentucky (the three northernmost counties) and southwestern Ohio is populated by displaced eastern and southeastern Kentuckians and their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, that region is much more midwestern than southern/southeastern.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 15, 2017, 11:51:23 PM
Although technically everyone says it erroneously, I often say it knowing its wrong, and then immediately I correct myself. I almost always say "buyed" when someone asks me if I bought [specific item], to which I sometimes reply "I buyed it -- sorry, bought it".
Pretty much the same problem here....
Quote from: hbelkins on September 16, 2017, 07:13:51 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 16, 2017, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: Brandon on September 16, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
Midwest thing? Dude, you're from Kentucky, which is The South, not in any way, shape, or form, the Midwest.
He's from the suburbs of Cincinnati. Do things really change that much just by crossing the Ohio River?
Despite the fact that much of northern Kentucky (the three northernmost counties) and southwestern Ohio is populated by displaced eastern and southeastern Kentuckians and their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, that region is much more midwestern than southern/southeastern.
Speaking from a Chicago/Detroit perspective, Cincy is more southern than midwestern. It's roots are Appalachian, not Midlands or from New England. Therefore, it's more southern than midwestern. Same goes for far downstate Illinois and Indiana.
Older versions of English had stem changes not different endings for different tenses
Some stem changes survive today in general use or in certain dialects.
Buyed fits the rules, so a child( or really anyone) learning English is likely to say buyed or goed instead of went
LGMS428
Quote from: Brandon on September 16, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
Midwest thing? Dude, you're from Kentucky, which is The South, not in any way, shape, or form, the Midwest.
Northern Kentucky is as Southern as Northern Virginia or South Florida.
If someone said Alexandria, Virginia or Boca Raton, Florida was not in any way shape or form Northeastern that would be crazy
LGMS428
Quote from: ParrDa on September 16, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
Another midwest thing that bugs me: "I seen" instead of "I saw"
This is also common in the rural Appalachians.
Never heard "buyed". I have heard "brang" instead of "brought" though.
Quote from: jwolfer on September 16, 2017, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: Brandon on September 16, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
Do you say "buyed" instead of "bought"? I do.
I'm also a "bring/brang/brung" guy.
Is this only a Midwest thing?
Midwest thing? Dude, you're from Kentucky, which is The South, not in any way, shape, or form, the Midwest.
Northern Kentucky is as Southern as Northern Virginia or South Florida.
If someone said Alexandria, Virginia or Boca Raton, Florida was not in any way shape or form Northeastern that would be crazy
+1. Virginia is a completely different state north of Fredericksburg.
Quote from: Jardine on September 16, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
I say pled instead of pleaded, and I'd swear until a few years ago EVERYONE else did too, and now I'm the only one . . .
You're not the only one. AP style is wrong about a lot of things. Don't get me started on the penultimate comma.
The Oxford Comma is quite necessary.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/the-oxford-comma-is-extremely-important-and-everyone-should?utm_term=.ebyYYNmD0#.bjAqqK6MA
Quote from: vdeane on September 18, 2017, 01:09:54 PM
The Oxford Comma is quite necessary.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/the-oxford-comma-is-extremely-important-and-everyone-should?utm_term=.ebyYYNmD0#.bjAqqK6MA
I didn't realize that people
didn't put a comma before "and". I've always done this. Of course, I always put punctuation marks outside of quotes (when at the end of a sentence), rather than inside the quotes. Not sure when I started picking up British writing styles.
Those who say 'buyed' instead of 'bought' shall be convicted of treason of the highest order in Alanland.
Those convicted of treason shall be sentenced to death. The execution is tonight, with Noelbotevera, Max R., and myself being the executioners.
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on September 18, 2017, 01:49:45 PM
Those who say 'buyed' instead of 'bought' shall be convicted of treason of the highest order in Alanland.
What about those who've said it accidentally? I admitted as much in the third post. Apparently everyone else is fuckin' perfect.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 18, 2017, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on September 18, 2017, 01:49:45 PM
Those who say 'buyed' instead of 'bought' shall be convicted of treason of the highest order in Alanland.
What about those who've said it accidentally? I admitted as much in the third post. Apparently everyone else is fuckin' perfect.
5 years community service at Alanland National Industrial Park
Quote from: ParrDa on September 16, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
Another midwest thing that bugs me: "I seen" instead of "I saw"
And in the Northeast, it's "I sawr".
Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 18, 2017, 02:22:27 PM
Quote from: ParrDa on September 16, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
Another midwest thing that bugs me: "I seen" instead of "I saw"
And in the Northeast, it's "I sawr".
While dropping the "r" everywhere else.
Please, pak the cah.
Quote from: Brandon on September 18, 2017, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on September 18, 2017, 02:22:27 PM
Quote from: ParrDa on September 16, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
Another midwest thing that bugs me: "I seen" instead of "I saw"
And in the Northeast, it's "I sawr".
While dropping the "r" everywhere else.
Please, pak the cah.
Intrusive "R" versus non-rhotic "R". English really is a lovely language.
I love speaking my southern English to non-southern people. I found out years ago that I say things that actually need explanation. I said to some folks, "I'm fixin' to go to the coke machine & get a coke. Y'all want one?" I had hell trying to figure out a way to explain "fixin' to" because I have said it all my life, then came the discussion about coke/soda/pop.
Ain't English awesome?
I worked with someone from rural Michigan who said "buyed" more often than "bought" and who also frequently said "I seen" rather than "I saw."
I wondered if it was regional, or if it was an affectation....
Quote from: US 81 on September 18, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
I worked with someone from rural Michigan who said "buyed" more often than "bought" and who also frequently said "I seen" rather than "I saw."
I wondered if it was regional, or if it was an affectation....
Or an individual.
Quote from: US 81 on September 18, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
I worked with someone from rural Michigan who...frequently said "I seen" rather than "I saw."
I wondered if it was regional, or if it was an affectation....
Were they African American?
In my experience, "I seen" is a common "ebonic" variation of "I saw". Not the case in the South, where whites and blacks seem to share many of the same linguistic characteristics, but perhaps in Michigan. Not sure how strong the Michigan accent is among the white population up there.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 18, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: US 81 on September 18, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
I worked with someone from rural Michigan who...frequently said "I seen" rather than "I saw."
I wondered if it was regional, or if it was an affectation....
Were they African American? In my experience, "I seen" is a common "ebonic" variation of "I saw". Not the case in the South, where whites and blacks seem to share many of the same linguistic characteristics, but perhaps in Michigan. Not sure how strong the Michigan accent is among the white population up there.
No, he was white/Caucasian.
Quote from: US 81 on September 19, 2017, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 18, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: US 81 on September 18, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
I worked with someone from rural Michigan who...frequently said "I seen" rather than "I saw."
I wondered if it was regional, or if it was an affectation....
Were they African American? In my experience, "I seen" is a common "ebonic" variation of "I saw". Not the case in the South, where whites and blacks seem to share many of the same linguistic characteristics, but perhaps in Michigan. Not sure how strong the Michigan accent is among the white population up there.
No, he was white/Caucasian.
Hmmm. Did he have a speech impediment? (i.e. did he cock up other words too? Other than the aforementioned use of "buyed").
Quote from: jakeroot on September 19, 2017, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: US 81 on September 19, 2017, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 18, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: US 81 on September 18, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
I worked with someone from rural Michigan who...frequently said "I seen" rather than "I saw."
I wondered if it was regional, or if it was an affectation....
Were they African American? In my experience, "I seen" is a common "ebonic" variation of "I saw". Not the case in the South, where whites and blacks seem to share many of the same linguistic characteristics, but perhaps in Michigan. Not sure how strong the Michigan accent is among the white population up there.
No, he was white/Caucasian.
Hmmm. Did he have a speech impediment? (i.e. did he cock up other words too? Other than the aforementioned use of "buyed").
He did indeed conjugate many words differently than "standard" American English, but it definitely seemed to be usage and not a speech impediment: past tense verbs, usually if not always first-person, both singular and plural.
FWIW, he described himself as having been raised in a very rural area of the UP. (As a Texan who has not yet had the pleasure of visiting, I don't really see any "citified" areas of the UP on the map....)
I've been through a few states and never once heard anyone say "buyed". Never.
Quote from: US 81 on September 20, 2017, 05:57:06 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 19, 2017, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: US 81 on September 19, 2017, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 18, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: US 81 on September 18, 2017, 05:06:43 PM
I worked with someone from rural Michigan who...frequently said "I seen" rather than "I saw."
I wondered if it was regional, or if it was an affectation....
Were they African American? In my experience, "I seen" is a common "ebonic" variation of "I saw". Not the case in the South, where whites and blacks seem to share many of the same linguistic characteristics, but perhaps in Michigan. Not sure how strong the Michigan accent is among the white population up there.
No, he was white/Caucasian.
Hmmm. Did he have a speech impediment? (i.e. did he cock up other words too? Other than the aforementioned use of "buyed").
He did indeed conjugate many words differently than "standard" American English, but it definitely seemed to be usage and not a speech impediment: past tense verbs, usually if not always first-person, both singular and plural.
FWIW, he described himself as having been raised in a very rural area of the UP. (As a Texan who has not yet had the pleasure of visiting, I don't really see any "citified" areas of the UP on the map....)
Most of the remaining "unique" accents in this country seem to be in areas with little outside contact. I'm sure certain villages in the Upper Peninsula would qualify. A more famous example might be the High Tider (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Tider) accent spoken in some of the isolated coastal North Carolina communities.
"Buyed" sounds like something a toddler would say.
e.g.
"My daddy buyed a new car!"
Quote from: jakeroot on September 21, 2017, 12:35:18 AM
Most of the remaining "unique" accents in this country seem to be in areas with little outside contact. I'm sure certain villages in the Upper Peninsula would qualify. A more famous example might be the High Tider (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Tider) accent spoken in some of the isolated coastal North Carolina communities.
Define a "unique" accent. There are a lot of accents out there, across the US and Canada.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_English
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/AmericanAccents
And my accent: http://michigannative.com/ma_home.shtml
Which is a subset of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Northern_American_English
With all stages of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cities_Vowel_Shift
Quote from: Brandon on September 21, 2017, 05:39:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 21, 2017, 12:35:18 AM
Most of the remaining "unique" accents in this country seem to be in areas with little outside contact. I'm sure certain villages in the Upper Peninsula would qualify. A more famous example might be the High Tider (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Tider) accent spoken in some of the isolated coastal North Carolina communities.
Define a "unique" accent. There are a lot of accents out there, across the US and Canada.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_English
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/AmericanAccents
And my accent: http://michigannative.com/ma_home.shtml
Which is a subset of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Northern_American_English
With all stages of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cities_Vowel_Shift
Having grew up in eastern NC, my accent is the lovechild of Larry the Cable Guy and Foghorn Leghorn. :-D
Quote from: Brandon on September 21, 2017, 05:39:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 21, 2017, 12:35:18 AM
Most of the remaining "unique" accents in this country seem to be in areas with little outside contact. I'm sure certain villages in the Upper Peninsula would qualify. A more famous example might be the High Tider (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Tider) accent spoken in some of the isolated coastal North Carolina communities.
Define a "unique" accent. There are a lot of accents out there, across the US and Canada.
"Unique" meaning "spoken by a very small group of people".