I would nominate I-70 in eastern Pennsylvania.
Stretches of interstate that I thought were in bad shape:
- I-70 east of Indianapolis (in July)
- I-95 north of Savnnah, GA (in August)
- I-69 west of Port Huron, MI (in November)
- Georgia had chunks of tires on the shoulders and even in the lanes in many spots back in August (both I-75 and I-95)
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 08, 2017, 10:50:43 PM
I would nominate I-70 in eastern Pennsylvania.
If I remember correctly from when I drove that stretch in summer 2016, the maintenance was fine. It was just the initial narrow construction of the road that was godawful.
I've heard people say that some of the Interstates in Atlanta are poorly maintained, but I can't back that up from experience.
As for Interstates I've been on, I-69 along the north side of Lansing, MI, particularly in the WB direction, seems to have been in subpar shape for a while.
I-4 was pretty bad before the Ultimate project began. I-10 in the Gila Reservation is infamously bad and way too damn under capacity with four lanes. I-5 in the Central Valley isn't in the best shape either, lots of rough surfaces.
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
I nominate any Portland freeway that isn't I 205.
I-59 in northern Alabama before it was reconstructed. The right lane was undrivable due to huge deep base failures.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 08, 2017, 10:50:43 PM
I would nominate I-70 in eastern Pennsylvania.
Did you mean 78?
If not, I'd like to put it into nomination.
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Anything in New Mexico.
Try I-5 (CA) from just south of the Oregon state line down to the Anderson grade (right after the Klamath River bridge). Cracked concrete slabs, lots of patches, and the material they use between the slabs are often high ridges. It's almost a pleasure to have to stop at the ag inspection station along this stretch!
Quote from: pianocello on December 08, 2017, 11:46:48 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 08, 2017, 10:50:43 PM
I would nominate I-70 in eastern Pennsylvania.
If I remember correctly from when I drove that stretch in summer 2016, the maintenance was fine. It was just the initial narrow construction of the road that was godawful.
I've heard people say that some of the Interstates in Atlanta are poorly maintained, but I can't back that up from experience.
As for Interstates I've been on, I-69 along the north side of Lansing, MI, particularly in the WB direction, seems to have been in subpar shape for a while.
Oops, meant west of the turnpike.
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Hey now, I-57 south of Mt Vernon is in pretty good shape.
Quote from: billpa on December 09, 2017, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 08, 2017, 10:50:43 PM
I would nominate I-70 in eastern Pennsylvania.
Did you mean 78?
If not, I'd like to put it into nomination.
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If we're talking about design, I have absolutely no issues with I-78, unlike a whole lot of people. I-70 between Washington and New Stanton, however...
Quote from: csw on December 09, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Hey now, I-57 south of Mt Vernon is in pretty good shape.
A rarity. I-55 in Will County or I-80 through the same is more typical. How many other interstates routinely suffer holes in bridges?
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 09, 2017, 03:13:38 AM
I nominate any Portland freeway that isn't I 205.
I dunno... the US 30 freeway between Yeon Ave and I-405's in good shape.
Quote from: Bickendan on December 09, 2017, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 09, 2017, 03:13:38 AM
I nominate any Portland freeway that isn't I 205.
I dunno... the US 30 freeway between Yeon Ave and I-405's in good shape.
That freeway is in decent shape. I should've worded what I said initially to Portland's interstates because that is what the thread was about. My bad. Also, I have a tendency to forget there is a freeway there (I avoid downtown Portland except for U.S outdoor store).
Quote from: hbelkins on December 09, 2017, 09:39:05 PM
Quote from: billpa on December 09, 2017, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 08, 2017, 10:50:43 PM
I would nominate I-70 in eastern Pennsylvania.
Did you mean 78?
If not, I'd like to put it into nomination.
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If we're talking about design, I have absolutely no issues with I-78, unlike a whole lot of people. I-70 between Washington and New Stanton, however...
Not design, condition. The section from about Hamburg to the Lehigh Valley is pretty awful.
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Two years ago we took I-35 north from OKC....just north of town the freeway was so bad I thought I had a flat tire and pulled over. Last year, a full year later, the same thing happened. I understand that OK does not take good care of their roads but this is an interstate right in the city!!
I-70 between Saint Louis and Kansas City used to be awful.
I-86 through the Seneca Nation.
I-475 in Flint, Michigan
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The Mississippi River bridge on I-55 was just plain frightening last time I drove across it. It looks like it had some work done to fix it sometime in the last five years. That would have been my answer years ago. Now, it's pretty much anything in Chicago.
Not really due to Engineering, but the first 33 miles of I-90 always seems to have at least one section under construction. I think that the weather there makes a big dent on that road making it hard to maintain. Parts of it feels bumpy as well more than usual.
Also I-69 in Flint, Michigan. The roads are complete crap in Genesee County. I drove on I-475 and I-69 tonight and can't figure out which one's worse.
I-195 in NJ has some of the worst road surface I've ever driven on.
- I-684, concrete portions only
- I-87, Major Deegan Expressway. Substandard and riddled with potholes.
- I-395 (CT). At least the signs are new.
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 09, 2017, 03:13:38 AM
I nominate any Portland freeway that isn't I 205.
Lol no. If you've ever driven on California's Interstates, you'd realize that our freeways aren't even close to as bad. I-80 through the Sierras has some notorious bad spots, and someone else mentioned how piss poor the quality is on I-5 as soon as you cross south into California.
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: csw on December 09, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Hey now, I-57 south of Mt Vernon is in pretty good shape.
A rarity.
I-64, I-24, and I-70 are also in pretty good condition, IIRC.
Unless that part of the state shouldn't count as Illinois.... :crazy:
Quote from: JasonOfORoads on December 12, 2017, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 09, 2017, 03:13:38 AM
I nominate any Portland freeway that isn't I 205.
Lol no. If you've ever driven on California's Interstates, you'd realize that our freeways aren't even close to as bad. I-80 through the Sierras has some notorious bad spots, and someone else mentioned how piss poor the quality is on I-5 as soon as you cross south into California.
Yes. I-880 through Oakland. Loads of fun dodging the pieces of concrete that have fallen off the side walls of the road, what with no shoulders and deep puddles that form when there's a half an inch of rain. And praying to all that's holy that the Big One doesn't hit while I'm on it.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 08, 2017, 10:50:43 PM
I would nominate I-70 in eastern Pennsylvania.
I'm not real sure where I-70 goes through eastern Pennsylvania though. I've driven on I-70 in Pennsylvania and there isn't much wrong with how it's maintained. Maybe some design flaws but not anything wrong with how they maintain it. I-70 is more western and central PA not eastern.
Quote from: kkt on December 12, 2017, 04:36:35 PM
Quote from: JasonOfORoads on December 12, 2017, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 09, 2017, 03:13:38 AM
I nominate any Portland freeway that isn't I 205.
Lol no. If you've ever driven on California's Interstates, you'd realize that our freeways aren't even close to as bad. I-80 through the Sierras has some notorious bad spots, and someone else mentioned how piss poor the quality is on I-5 as soon as you cross south into California.
Yes. I-880 through Oakland. Loads of fun dodging the pieces of concrete that have fallen off the side walls of the road, what with no shoulders and deep puddles that form when there's a half an inch of rain. And praying to all that's holy that the Big One doesn't hit while I'm on it.
I have never been to California, I'm just going off of what I've seen.
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Illinois interstates are the worst. But only the IDOT ones.
Quote from: inkyatari on December 18, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Illinois interstates are the worst. But only the IDOT ones.
Again, what's wrong with I-64 across Illinois?
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2017, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on December 18, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Illinois interstates are the worst. But only the IDOT ones.
Again, what's wrong with I-64 across Illinois?
We're usually looking at northern Illinois interstates. I-64 might be fine, but I-80 is a mess of potholes and bridges in dire need of repair.
Quote from: Brandon on December 18, 2017, 04:02:59 PM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
My point is that I picked an IDOT-maintained interstate. I-24 is another excellent one. As is I-70. How is I-72 doing these days?
Quote from: Brandon on December 18, 2017, 04:02:59 PM
We're usually looking at northern Illinois interstates.
Who is? If you're going to ignore half the state, then say as much up front.
Quote from: Brandon on December 18, 2017, 04:02:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2017, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on December 18, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Illinois interstates are the worst. But only the IDOT ones.
Again, what's wrong with I-64 across Illinois?
We're usually looking at northern Illinois interstates. I-64 might be fine, but I-80 is a mess of potholes and bridges in dire need of repair.
Exactly why I avoid Chicago at all costs: if riding in a taxi was rough, I couldn't imagine driving there.
I have family in Normal Illinois and we prefer to fly into St. Louis for many reasons.
Chicago is fine if you hit it at the right time of the day. Whenever I've been traveling and had to travel via Chicago to get somewhere I'd plan on hitting Chicago between 2am-5am. The only traffic you really encounter is around the Circle Interchange downtown where the Kennedy, Dan Ryan and Eisenhower all come together and the Stevenson coming in a little south of it and that's not too bad the speed limit in that stretch is 45 mph but you just have to keep up with the flow of traffic and ignore what the speed limit is.
I've hit Chicago at the best of times and the worst of times. The worst I believe was in 2005 I was on my way to a White Sox game and ended up sitting in traffic on the Dan Ryan for so long I sunburned the side of my arm since my car had no a/c I had to keep the windows down. That wasn't too much fun but the Sox won the game I went to so I was happy about that.
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 10, 2017, 10:35:28 PM
I-475 in Flint, Michigan
I saw somewhere that MDOT has plans to downgrade part of this freeway from 6 lanes to 4 lanes.
Back on topic, I-69 between I-96 and US-127 is extremely bumpy
Quote from: ftballfan on December 31, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 10, 2017, 10:35:28 PM
I-475 in Flint, Michigan
I saw somewhere that MDOT has plans to downgrade part of this freeway from 6 lanes to 4 lanes.
Back on topic, I-69 between I-96 and US-127 is extremely bumpy
I-475 is six lanes between it's northern terminus and exit 13 Saginaw Street then it becomes six lanes until it gets to the other side of Flint before it goes back down to four lanes where it meets I-75 at its southern terminus. I-475 sees a lot of traffic though it serves as a bypass of I-75 which between US 23 and I-69 is very congested with a lot of people making lane movements for 23 or 69.
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Quote from: ftballfan on December 31, 2017, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 10, 2017, 10:35:28 PM
I-475 in Flint, Michigan
I saw somewhere that MDOT has plans to downgrade part of this freeway from 6 lanes to 4 lanes.
Back on topic, I-69 between I-96 and US-127 is extremely bumpy
I-69 is pretty bumpy in Flint too between I-75 and I-475 especially just north of the GM plant on Van Slyke.
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Quote from: RobbieL2415 on December 12, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
- I-684, concrete portions only
- I-87, Major Deegan Expressway. Substandard and riddled with potholes.
- I-395 (CT). At least the signs are new.
Deegan is currently getting a lot of construction, which makes it intolerable at the moment, but hopefully better and slightly more modern when it's done.
How about I-278 in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island? (I have no quarrel with the Bruckner portion, personally)
65 from indy to us 30 is always in shitty shape.
I-90 through the Cattaraugus Reservation in western Erie County, NY may be the worst in the northeast right now. Senecas won't let NYSTA do any work on it (it needs a full-depth reconstruction), so potholes galore. Speed limit was lowered to 55 due to poor road conditions.
The short stretch of I-684 near the Saw Mill Parkway that is still original concrete is miserable. The remainder of the road has been resurfaced recently. I-86 through the Allegheny Reservation and I-88 between Binghamton and Oneonta were miserable before the recent reconstruction projects.
I-278 is in miserable shape, but you can't go fast enough to really notice how bad it is. Can't hit those bumps at 65+ like you can on I-90/684.
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
I think this wins the thread. Every IDOT mile I have driven on is pure hell (ISHTA stuff is beautiful). I'm not looking forward to taking I-70 across the state in August for that reason.
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2018, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
I think this wins the thread. Every IDOT mile I have driven on is pure hell (ISHTA stuff is beautiful). I'm not looking forward to taking I-70 across the state in August for that reason.
Haven't been there in several years, but I know I-70 used to be a beautiful highway with no quality issues.
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2018, 03:19:59 PM
I-90 through the Cattaraugus Reservation in western Erie County, NY may be the worst in the northeast right now. Senecas won't let NYSTA do any work on it (it needs a full-depth reconstruction), so potholes galore. Speed limit was lowered to 55 due to poor road conditions.
The short stretch of I-684 near the Saw Mill Parkway that is still original concrete is miserable. The remainder of the road has been resurfaced recently. I-86 through the Allegheny Reservation and I-88 between Binghamton and Oneonta were miserable before the recent reconstruction projects.
I-278 is in miserable shape, but you can't go fast enough to really notice how bad it is. Can't hit those bumps at 65+ like you can on I-90/684.
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
I think this wins the thread. Every IDOT mile I have driven on is pure hell (ISHTA stuff is beautiful). I'm not looking forward to taking I-70 across the state in August for that reason.
who are the senecas and why are they holding up a project like this?
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on December 12, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
- I-684, concrete portions only
FYI, the northern concrete stretch from Exit 8 northward (likely the original 1971-era pavement) is currently undergoing a reconstruction to asphalt surfaces.
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 02, 2018, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on December 12, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
- I-684, concrete portions only
FYI, the northern concrete stretch from Exit 8 northward (likely the original 1971-era pavement) is currently undergoing a reconstruction to asphalt surfaces.
Reconstruction was supposedly completed a few weeks ago. Area around the Saw Mill is still 1970s concrete.
Quote from: silverback1065 on January 02, 2018, 03:50:56 PM
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2018, 03:19:59 PM
I-90 through the Cattaraugus Reservation in western Erie County, NY may be the worst in the northeast right now. Senecas won't let NYSTA do any work on it (it needs a full-depth reconstruction), so potholes galore. Speed limit was lowered to 55 due to poor road conditions.
The short stretch of I-684 near the Saw Mill Parkway that is still original concrete is miserable. The remainder of the road has been resurfaced recently. I-86 through the Allegheny Reservation and I-88 between Binghamton and Oneonta were miserable before the recent reconstruction projects.
I-278 is in miserable shape, but you can't go fast enough to really notice how bad it is. Can't hit those bumps at 65+ like you can on I-90/684.
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
I think this wins the thread. Every IDOT mile I have driven on is pure hell (ISHTA stuff is beautiful). I'm not looking forward to taking I-70 across the state in August for that reason.
who are the senecas and why are they holding up a project like this?
Can't build on a reservation without approval of the tribe. The tribe is holding back highway repairs as retribution for natives no longer having a monopoly on gambling in the state.
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2018, 04:54:58 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 02, 2018, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on December 12, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
- I-684, concrete portions only
FYI, the northern concrete stretch from Exit 8 northward (likely the original 1971-era pavement) is currently undergoing a reconstruction to asphalt surfaces.
Reconstruction was supposedly completed a few weeks ago. Area around the Saw Mill is still 1970s concrete.
I was just there this past Dec. 27 and the project, as a whole, wasn't fully completed. While most of the repaving between Exit 8 and just south of I-84 is done; there's still some work remaining at the I-84 interchange itself. Construction barrels north of exit 8 & VMS' approaching the work zone were still present. I'm sure the recent snowfalls and bitter colder than normal temps that followed played a role delaying the completion of the project.
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 03, 2018, 11:31:07 AM
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2018, 04:54:58 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 02, 2018, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on December 12, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
- I-684, concrete portions only
FYI, the northern concrete stretch from Exit 8 northward (likely the original 1971-era pavement) is currently undergoing a reconstruction to asphalt surfaces.
Reconstruction was supposedly completed a few weeks ago. Area around the Saw Mill is still 1970s concrete.
I was just there this past Dec. 27 and the project, as a whole, wasn't fully completed. While most of the repaving between Exit 8 and just south of I-84 is done; there's still some work remaining at the I-84 interchange itself. Construction barrels north of exit 8 & VMS' approaching the work zone were still present. I'm sure the recent snowfalls and bitter colder than normal temps that followed played a role delaying the completion of the project.
Really? Wow. I was through there in November and that is roughly what it looked like then.
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2017, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on December 18, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Illinois interstates are the worst. But only the IDOT ones.
Again, what's wrong with I-64 across Illinois?
For a while I-64 in Clinton County was awful. The pavement was crumbling to dust. Lane makings were completely worn away.
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: csw on December 09, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 09, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Pick an IDOT maintained interstate, any IDOT maintained interstate.
Hey now, I-57 south of Mt Vernon is in pretty good shape.
A rarity. I-55 in Will County or I-80 through the same is more typical. How many other interstates routinely suffer holes in bridges?
I-80 is on the verge of a multimillion dollar overhaul....patience young grasshopper!!
I would nominate I-64/55 in St.Louis....The worst I've ever been on!!
Quote from: leroy217 on January 23, 2018, 05:31:18 PM
I would nominate I-64/55 in St.Louis....The worst I've ever been on!!
The PSB or 55/64 east of the bridge itself in E. St. Louis?
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2018, 04:54:58 PM
Can't build on a reservation without approval of the tribe. The tribe is holding back highway repairs as retribution for natives no longer having a monopoly on gambling in the state.
Why would repairing existing infrastructure be considered "building?" The Thruway Authority ought to go out there with armed guards and do what needs to be done, misguided tribal sentiments notwithstanding.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 27, 2018, 03:26:23 PM
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2018, 04:54:58 PM
Can't build on a reservation without approval of the tribe. The tribe is holding back highway repairs as retribution for natives no longer having a monopoly on gambling in the state.
Why would repairing existing infrastructure be considered "building?" The Thruway Authority ought to go out there with armed guards and do what needs to be done, misguided tribal sentiments notwithstanding.
Last time they tried that, the tribe blocked the highway with burning tires.
So, send in the army and create martyrs? Fuhgettaboutit.
Quote from: Rothman on January 27, 2018, 04:31:27 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 27, 2018, 03:26:23 PM
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2018, 04:54:58 PM
Can't build on a reservation without approval of the tribe. The tribe is holding back highway repairs as retribution for natives no longer having a monopoly on gambling in the state.
Why would repairing existing infrastructure be considered "building?" The Thruway Authority ought to go out there with armed guards and do what needs to be done, misguided tribal sentiments notwithstanding.
Last time they tried that, the tribe blocked the highway with burning tires.
So, send in the army and create martyrs? Fuhgettaboutit.
Yeah, the state does not have a good relationship with the tribes. One of the other tribes shot down a state police helicopter a while back because they and the Border Patrol were conducting unauthorized searches on their reservation.
Worst Interstates I have driven in the past 10-or-so years are:
1. I-70 in Pennsylvania. Both the western section between I-79 and New Stanton (the Pennsylvania Turnpike part of I-70 is not as bad by comparison); and from Breezewood to the Maryland border. Mostly because of elderly, creaking and cheap interchange design (and yes, PennDOT has several projects under way on the western part).
2. I-83 in Pennsylvania also has awful interchanges though a few have been upgraded in recent years, and there's one at PA-124 (Mt. Rose Avenue) that is getting upgraded now.
3. I-78 (again, in Pennsylvania), most of it from I-81 to the end of PennDOT maintenance has lousy interchange design, poor pavement condition and plenty of serious truck crashes (due IMO in part to unforgiving PennDOT design).
4. I-81 north of I-78 in Pennsylvania always seems to have one or two cattle chute work zones and the misery that comes with them, usually on a steep grade.
5. I-70 through Wheeling, W.Va. and the one-lane each way tunnel (though easy enough to bypass with I-470 (Ohio and West Virginia)).
6. I-70 in Missouri between the eastern suburbs of Kansas City and Wentzville. About 180 miles of substandard four lane freeway mostly in need of total reconstruction.
7. I-95 between Lumberton, N.C. and Micro (excluding the bypass around Fayetteville). Pavement is usually fine but the interchanges are dangerously substandard. Wish NCDOT would spend less money on new "free" freeways and more on fixing this substandard section of freeway.
8. I-95 in Connecticut especially between the New York border and I-91 at New Haven. Much worse than New York's Cross-Bronx Expressway only because it is so much longer.
9. I-83 in Baltimore City, Maryland. In need of total reconstruction (most of the bridges were re-decked in the 1980's).
pennsylvania, name an interstate there, it's probably garbage
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2017, 04:08:26 PM
My point is that I picked an IDOT-maintained interstate. I-24 is another excellent one. As is I-70. How is I-72 doing these days?
I-72 is doing okay. There are a few sections on the eastern part that are in need of resurfacing, but the Hannibal-Springfield section is in pretty good shape.
But IDOT seems to wait until a stretch of road has gone to pot for a few years before the section is even considered for the five-year plan...completely opposite of MoDOT who seems to resurface the same stretches of major highway over and over for no reason, while letting minor routes to get worse and worse.
Quote from: silverback1065 on January 28, 2018, 10:19:00 PM
pennsylvania, name an interstate there, it's probably garbage
Why? Because you heard it elsewhere?
Quote from: brycecordry on January 28, 2018, 10:39:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2017, 04:08:26 PM
My point is that I picked an IDOT-maintained interstate. I-24 is another excellent one. As is I-70. How is I-72 doing these days?
I-72 is doing okay. There are a few sections on the eastern part that are in need of resurfacing, but the Hannibal-Springfield section is in pretty good shape.
But IDOT seems to wait until a stretch of road has gone to pot for a few years before the section is even considered for the five-year plan...completely opposite of MoDOT who seems to resurface the same stretches of major highway over and over for no reason, while letting minor routes to get worse and worse.
Going on Illinois Interstates, I'd say that I-55 around Joliet - Bolingbrook is the worst maintained right now.
I've bemoaned the rotten job the state did widening it 6 years ago elsewhere.
Quote from: inkyatari on January 29, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on January 28, 2018, 10:39:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2017, 04:08:26 PM
My point is that I picked an IDOT-maintained interstate. I-24 is another excellent one. As is I-70. How is I-72 doing these days?
I-72 is doing okay. There are a few sections on the eastern part that are in need of resurfacing, but the Hannibal-Springfield section is in pretty good shape.
But IDOT seems to wait until a stretch of road has gone to pot for a few years before the section is even considered for the five-year plan...completely opposite of MoDOT who seems to resurface the same stretches of major highway over and over for no reason, while letting minor routes to get worse and worse.
Going on Illinois Interstates, I'd say that I-55 around Joliet - Bolingbrook is the worst maintained right now.
I've bemoaned the rotten job the state did widening it 6 years ago elsewhere.
It was probably the shittiest job I've ever seen a DOT do to widen a freeway (hell, that could be a new thread by itself - "Shitty Rebuild/Widen Jobs Done By DOTs", betcha IDOT wins that round).
Quote from: Brandon on January 29, 2018, 11:22:36 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on January 29, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: brycecordry on January 28, 2018, 10:39:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2017, 04:08:26 PM
My point is that I picked an IDOT-maintained interstate. I-24 is another excellent one. As is I-70. How is I-72 doing these days?
I-72 is doing okay. There are a few sections on the eastern part that are in need of resurfacing, but the Hannibal-Springfield section is in pretty good shape.
But IDOT seems to wait until a stretch of road has gone to pot for a few years before the section is even considered for the five-year plan...completely opposite of MoDOT who seems to resurface the same stretches of major highway over and over for no reason, while letting minor routes to get worse and worse.
Going on Illinois Interstates, I'd say that I-55 around Joliet - Bolingbrook is the worst maintained right now.
I've bemoaned the rotten job the state did widening it 6 years ago elsewhere.
It was probably the shittiest job I've ever seen a DOT do to widen a freeway (hell, that could be a new thread by itself - "Shitty Rebuild/Widen Jobs Done By DOTs", betcha IDOT wins that round).
Consider that thread made (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=22153.0). :-D
After driving on I-69 between M-13 (Exit 123) and I-94 (Exit 38) today I realized how poor of condition this highway is in. And this is the newest Interstate in Michigan, granted it's getting pretty old now.