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Title: County/parish clinching question
Post by: cjk374 on April 10, 2018, 08:59:20 PM
Louisiana's St. Martin parish is split into 2 pieces because of a surveying error committed in the 1868 creation of Iberia Parish. So, even though the names are not official, we have a lower and upper St. Martin Parish.

So I have 2 questions:

1. Are there any other split counties out there?

2. Do you feel that you need to enter both halves of that split county/parish before you consider it clinched?
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: rlb2024 on April 10, 2018, 09:14:38 PM
Monroe County in Florida has the Keys . . . and the southwestern part of the Everglades.  You have to go through at least 40 miles of Miami-Dade County to get from one part of Monroe to the other, unless you travel by boat.  And to me, one half counts as having clinched.
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: bassoon1986 on April 10, 2018, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: rlb2024 on April 10, 2018, 09:14:38 PM
Monroe County in Florida has the Keys . . . and the southwestern part of the Everglades.  You have to go through at least 40 miles of Miami-Dade County to get from one part of Monroe to the other, unless you travel by boat.  And to me, one half counts as having clinched.

Yes, but geographically, from mainland Florida across the water to the keys is all Monroe county. St. Martin Parish in LA is 2 pieces that are not connected. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180411/cf5fe86d3767c2d55b957283165e82ad.jpg)


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Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: Scott5114 on April 11, 2018, 01:23:15 AM
Weird. Why don't they just break Lower St. Martin Parish off on its own or merge it with Assumption Parish?
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on April 11, 2018, 09:27:15 AM
If it is a single unit administratively, then I consider having been in either part clinching it.

Does anybody think they have to have visited Point Roberts, Washington to say that they clinched Washington state?
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: formulanone on April 11, 2018, 09:41:48 AM
Norfolk County, Massachusetts seems to similarly unusual borders, since some of the towns switched to different counties, or annexed to other counties over 200 years ago.

Not sure how that all works, to be honest.
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: triplemultiplex on April 11, 2018, 09:44:09 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 11, 2018, 09:27:15 AM
If it is a single unit administratively, then I consider having been in either part clinching it.

Does anybody think they have to have visited Point Roberts, Washington to say that they clinched Washington state?

Or do you have to go to Isle Royale to clinch Keewanaw County, Michigan?  No.
I agree that if you've been in any part of it, you've clinched it.
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: jp the roadgeek on April 11, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
Clinching every town in South (Washington) County, RI, involves a trip on the Block Island Ferry to the town of New Shoreham.
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: SP Cook on April 11, 2018, 02:39:37 PM
I always thought that, be it a county, state, or country, just being in said jurisdiction "clinched" said jurisdiction.  I don't count never left the airport plane transfers, which is why I don't count for myself Utah or Germany.

Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: KEVIN_224 on April 13, 2018, 09:29:12 AM
Connecticut's 8 counties aren't broken up like Massachusetts (re. Norfolk County) or needing an island to clinch (re. Block Island in southern Rhode Island).

A good example of isolation is Brookline, MA. It's part of Norfolk County, MA. Was it ever part of Middlesex County or with Boston in Suffolk County, MA?
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 15, 2018, 02:41:24 AM
Minnesota has the Northwest Angle, which is part of Lake of the Woods County and that was also created by a surveying error. I haven't been to the Angle, but have been to the main part of LOTW County, which I consider to be a clinched county.
Title: Re: County/parish clinching question
Post by: Duke87 on April 15, 2018, 11:36:14 AM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on April 13, 2018, 09:29:12 AM
A good example of isolation is Brookline, MA. It's part of Norfolk County, MA. Was it ever part of Middlesex County or with Boston in Suffolk County, MA?

Nope. The actual history here is that the city of Boston was originally much smaller. Take a look at this map from 1858. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookline,_Massachusetts#/media/File:Dorchester_1858.jpg)

When Roxbury, West Roxbury, and Dorchester were annexed by the city of Boston, they moved from Norfolk county to Suffolk county accordingly. This left Brookline, which chose not to be annexed, still in Norfolk county but disconnected from the rest of it.