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Title: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: GenExpwy on April 19, 2018, 06:51:21 PM
King Mswati III, absolute ruler of Swaziland, has decreed that the name of the nation will now be "Kingdom of eSwatini" , in part because of persistent confusion with Switzerland.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43821512
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-swaziland-monarch-country/africas-last-absolute-monarch-renames-swaziland-as-eswatini-idUSKBN1HQ2NO
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: hotdogPi on April 19, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Confusion with Switzerland? What about Austria and Australia, or Mauritius and Mauritania?
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: vdeane on April 19, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Sounds like the name of an internet store from the 90s.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: KeithE4Phx on April 19, 2018, 09:23:09 PM
It's good to be the King.  :)
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: webny99 on April 19, 2018, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 19, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Confusion with Switzerland? What about Austria and Australia, or Mauritius and Mauritania?

Not to mention the scads of countries ending in -istan (I still can keep any of them straight).
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: hotdogPi on April 19, 2018, 10:05:39 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 19, 2018, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 19, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Confusion with Switzerland? What about Austria and Australia, or Mauritius and Mauritania?

Not to mention the scads of countries ending in -istan (I still can keep any of them straight).

That's equivalent to there being Iceland, Poland, England, Greenland, Alanland, Ireland, Netherlands, New Zealand, etc. It would be easier to remember the -stans if you lived in Asia, closer to them.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: Road Hog on April 19, 2018, 10:12:23 PM
If billionaires are looking for a bank account, I would think being confused with Switzerland would be a good thing.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: webny99 on April 19, 2018, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 19, 2018, 10:05:39 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 19, 2018, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 19, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Confusion with Switzerland? What about Austria and Australia, or Mauritius and Mauritania?
Not to mention the scads of countries ending in -istan (I still can keep any of them straight).
That's equivalent to there being Iceland, Poland, England, Greenland, Alanland, Ireland, Netherlands, New Zealand, etc. It would be easier to remember the -stans if you lived in Asia, closer to them.

In that case, confusing Swaziland and Switzerland shouldn't be surprising. Unlike the other examples, they actually sound (somewhat) similar and have the same amount of syllables.
I, for one, don't usually mix up Austria with Australia (or Australasia  ;-)).
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: Road Hog on April 19, 2018, 10:22:15 PM
Austria ....

G'DAY MATE!
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: english si on April 20, 2018, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 19, 2018, 09:59:11 PMNot to mention the scads of countries ending in -istan (I still can keep any of them straight).
Really? Not even one or two?

I can very much understand Turkmeni- and Tajiki-, and perhaps Kazakh- and Kyrgyz- due to the similar rest of the names, and Uzbeki-/Tajiki-/Turkmeni-/Kyrgyz- due to all being a cluster of somewhat similar size and shape, but Pakistan is surely easy to keep straight with its non-similar name and obvious geographic location? And surely Afghanistan has been on the news enough this century for its shape to be recognisable?

In other similar names - Niger and Nigeria; Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana and Equatorial Guinea; Slovenia and Slovakia; DRC and ROC.

Even somewhat less similarly named countries in close geographical proximity don't help - Latvia and Lithuania, Montenegro and Macedonia, Iran and Iraq (though the news has mostly been a help there, though sometimes they've got it wrong).
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on April 20, 2018, 09:58:17 AM
Don't forget Dominica and the Dominican republic.

Anyway, I decided to continue knowing the country as Swaziland, much like I do with Burma, Ivory Coast and (only in Spanish) Byelorussia (Interesting enough, I don't do the same for Cabo Verde since this is already its name in Spanish).
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: Henry on April 20, 2018, 10:01:37 AM
Sounds like an April Fool's joke, albeit several days late.

I know about all the countries, and it's not just limited to those. States and provinces have that problem too (IL and IN; MS and MO; MB and MN; NB and NL, among others).
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: renegade on April 20, 2018, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 19, 2018, 07:18:23 PMConfusion with Switzerland? What about Austria and Australia, or Mauritius and Mauritania?
I don't think King Mswati III would have any say over those. :awesomeface:
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: cjk374 on April 21, 2018, 09:17:51 AM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on April 19, 2018, 09:23:09 PM
It's good to be the King.  :)

Dilly dilly!!!
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: english si on April 21, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on April 21, 2018, 09:17:51 AMDilly dilly!!!
To the pit of misery with you!

As a torturer. Going 'dilly dilly' every time someone speaks and pouring kegs of Bud Light (sometimes Bud Light Lime for added horror) on the miscreants once a shift is all you need do - the misery is absolute.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: formulanone on April 21, 2018, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on April 19, 2018, 09:23:09 PM
It's good to be the King.  :)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/df/db/1ddfdb68822ed58ca0a20fe99bf1366e.jpg)
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: empirestate on April 21, 2018, 11:31:24 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 19, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Confusion with Switzerland? What about [...] Mauritius and Mauritania?

Well, most people have heard of neither; so, if there's any confusion, it stems from the fact that these countries even exist, rather than distinguishing between the two. :)
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: 1995hoo on April 21, 2018, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on April 19, 2018, 06:51:21 PM
... "Kingdom of eSwatini"  ....

Too bad they're landlocked so they don't have a bay.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: triplemultiplex on April 21, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
"eSwatini" sounds like a drink you'd order at a bar.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: index on April 22, 2018, 03:26:58 AM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on April 21, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
"eSwatini" sounds like a drink you'd order at a bar.


It sounds like a lot of things. When I first read "eSwatini", the first thing that came to my mind was a video I had seen ages ago. For some reason, "Swatini" refreshed my memory on this video, I had no idea I even remembered it until now. Funny the name change of a country reminded me of a tiny little ridiculous memory from a while ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGGOn-H7s3Q
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: abefroman329 on April 22, 2018, 01:34:29 PM
He also changed the official language of Swaziland to Swedish and declared that all children under 16 years of age are now 16 years of age.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: kkt on April 25, 2018, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 19, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
Confusion with Switzerland? What about Austria and Australia, or Mauritius and Mauritania?

Yes.  A friend of mine used to send letters and packages to her dad in Vienna, and finally starting addressing them with EUROPE written at the end of the address, because otherwise they all went the (very) long way.

Quote from: vdeane on April 19, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Sounds like the name of an internet store from the 90s.

:-D
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: jwolfer on April 25, 2018, 05:50:50 PM
My friend I grew up with was born in Australia.. she had someone tell her you speak English so well for being from Australia

Z981

Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: Chris on April 26, 2018, 03:58:14 PM
What to think of the Slovenia / Slovakia fiasco  :pan: And throw in the nearby Slavonia region too!

We have the problem of Dutch  > Holland > Netherlands. Three names for the same thing. In Dutch it's just "Nederland(s)".

"Holland" is a region, it makes up 2 of the 12 provinces. A Dutchman would not refer to the country as Holland in Dutch, though it's common in English for simplification issues. Holland is also a bit of an international brand name for the Netherlands.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: Scott5114 on April 26, 2018, 07:47:51 PM
I had a Internet friend from a Dutch town near the German border (can't remember the name of it at the moment), not in the Holland region, who was very particular about people referring to the country as Holland. He made the point that it was rather like referring to Houston as being in "California" because that is one of the United States's best known regions.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: english si on April 27, 2018, 03:59:03 AM
Holland's Dutch? Here's me thinking it is a former county-level entity run from Boston in the Fen area of Lincolnshire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_of_Holland). ;)
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: abefroman329 on April 27, 2018, 10:04:29 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2018, 07:47:51 PM
I had a Internet friend from a Dutch town near the German border (can't remember the name of it at the moment), not in the Holland region, who was very particular about people referring to the country as Holland. He made the point that it was rather like referring to Houston as being in "California" because that is one of the United States's best known regions.

Well, some Europeans use "America" to describe the USA and Canada (which probably pisses off Canadians and Latinos in equal measures), so...

Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: english si on April 27, 2018, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 27, 2018, 10:04:29 AMWell, some Europeans use "America" to describe the USA (which probably pisses off Canadians, Caribbeans, and Latin Americans), so...
FIFY.

Though, this is from a continent where a political union of just over half the countries, and about 70% of the people, is treated as the entire continent by so many - and some aggressively so. I've had people have a go at me for correcting 'Britain is leaving Europe' by saying 'how? outboard motors?' and for responding to 'all of Europe hates Brexit' with 'Iceland have been nothing but incredibly positive, and you keep blaming the Russians for it' - not because of my belligerent tone (though there is that), but because I've acknowledged the existence of a Europe outside of the EU and that is blasphemy to these Little Europeans for whom even parts of Europe are something to ignore - let alone the wider world of Asia, America, Africa and Australia.
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: kphoger on April 27, 2018, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: Chris on April 26, 2018, 03:58:14 PM
We have the problem of Dutch  > Holland > Netherlands. Three names for the same thing. In Dutch it's just "Nederland(s)".

"Holland" is a region, it makes up 2 of the 12 provinces. A Dutchman would not refer to the country as Holland in Dutch, though it's common in English for simplification issues. Holland is also a bit of an international brand name for the Netherlands.

Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: theroadwayone on May 01, 2018, 03:32:09 PM
King of Swaziland logic: "My country has problems with poverty, AIDS, civil unrest, etc., but let's forget all those problems and instead change our country's name because we get confused with the European country with the watches, knives, chocolate, and banks."
Title: Re: King of Swaziland decrees change of nation’s name
Post by: kkt on May 01, 2018, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: theroadwayone on May 01, 2018, 03:32:09 PM
King of Swaziland logic: "My country has problems with poverty, AIDS, civil unrest, etc., but let's forget all those problems and instead change our country's name because we get confused with the European country with the watches, knives, chocolate, and banks."

They learned the art of distracting the population from their real problems from the west.