If you watch many of your favorite shows you will find episodes where guest stars take the lead and the main characters are in a few scenes. That is because many are called back door pilots and the producers use another show to help launch their ideas.
Shows like Gomer Pyle USMC, who's season four finale of the Andy Griffith Show was used to introduce what became a successful spin off to the CBS Television Network. Also one Season Five Episode of All In The Family was pilot to the 8 season The Jeffersons Sitcom, and the first season finale of Different Strokes launched the successful Facts Of Life Sitcom as well. However, one other Different Strokes episode tried to launch a spin off that never took, which was in the fourth season that was to be about an Asian School Teacher teaching night school to a bunch of immigrants that flopped.
Other such attempts were on the Brady Bunch, season five's episode titled Kelly's Kids which would have had Ken Berry (post Mayberry RFD) in another situation comedy about raising three kids of different races with the trials and tribulations that went on with that scenario. Then Star Trek TOS tried to spin off a James Bond type of sci fi show with Robert Lansing as Agent Six and Terri Gar as his female secretary in one third season episode.
Both Laverne and Shirley, and Welcome Back Kotter tried to spin off characters in their respective series finale. The former would have had Carmine Ragusso (Eddie Mekka) have a sitcom of him in NYC trying to make it as a Broadway actor, and the latter where Arnold Horshack (Ron Pallilo) would have continued his Sweathog Character working in a mail order place, hence his getting married in that show's third to final episode.
Then you have Empty Nest, a spin off of the Golden Girls, that originally was to have Rita Moreno and Paul Dooley play a married couple with empty nest syndrome, but producers nixed the original cast and made it about a widowed doctor (played by Richard Mulligan) and his two adult daughters who came to live with him as both could not be responsible enough to take care of themselves instead. So you could say it was sort of a failed pilot of an already popular show.
Any more episodes that could have had another show spin from it?
Laverne and Shirley was spun off from Happy Days.
Quote from: Rothman on April 25, 2018, 08:59:06 PM
Laverne and Shirley was spun off from Happy Days.
Yes it was which means it was not a failed pilot from its parent show. The end of that one did have no go at giving Mekka his own series though.
Maude too was a spin off of All In The Family, but spun off Good Times also. Though not the Florida Evans from Tuckahoe, NY; but another Mrs. Evans (the same character though) from Chicago. So in a way its a failed spin off attempt as just like Empty Nest, the concept was retooled.
Mork and Mindy was a spinoff to Happy Days too.
The Jeffersons went from 1975 to 1985 on CBS.
Was ABC's Three's A Crowd ever set up at the end of Three's Company? That show only went one season (1985-86). I don't think I ever saw East Hartford's own Mary Cardorette in any other show after that.
Quote from: Big John on April 25, 2018, 09:31:44 PM
Mork and Mindy was a spinoff to Happy Days too.
But it was a series. I am talking about a pilot used in a preexisting TV Show episode that never got produced.
Mork and Mindy lasted 4 seasons and even though Threes A Crowd lasted one complete season, it still made it after its pilot which technically begun as the Three's Company eighth season finale. Three's Company actually aired for two episodes in the would be ninth season to write off Terri and Janet as the former moved to Hawaii and the latter got married.
Though the reception Three's A Crowd got, it even if it made it to one episode would still not of been a flop as I am talking about shows that were pitched that never got one episode produced.
So you're looking for something like "Top of the Town", the unsuccessful Matt LeBlanc spinoff from "Married with Children".
Honestly, from your OP, I had no clue you were asking about any failed series.
I still have no clue what this thread is about. :D
I think there was supposed to be a spin off of One Day at a Time, following Schnider, as was hinted at in the series finale.
Jago and Litefoot from the Doctor Who episode The Talons of Weng-Chiang were supposed to have their own spinoff series, but it never got off the ground.
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on April 25, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
The Jeffersons went from 1975 to 1985 on CBS.
Norman Lear tested the waters for a Jeffersons spinoff with the
All in the Family episode involving Lionel's engagement party. While most of the supporting actors didn't end up being the same (save for Zara Cully as Mother Jefferson), we were introduced to the Willises being a bi-racial couple, and the groundwork was laid for the premise for a spin off, which occured in the episode where George and Louise move to Manhattan. In this episode, all the supporting characters
are played by the regular cast members.
Maude also developed as a backdoor pilot from AITF. Maude was introduced as a character in the episode where she comes to take care of the Bunkers when a flu bug infiltrates the household. The second appearance ended up being a backdoor pilot where Archie and Edith go to Maude's home for Carol's wedding. Here, we meet Maude's family. Bill Macy does play Walter in the episode, but Andrienne Barbeau doesn't play Carol.
Archie Bunker's Place was a direct continuation spin-off, as Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers had left the series (save for a couple of guest appearances), and Edith was being phased out, eventually passing away in Season 2 of ABP. Archie buying the bar laid the groundwork, and many of the regulars in ABP were introduced in the last 2 seasons of AITF (Barney Hefner even earlier). The short lived series
Gloria developed from a backdoor pilot ABP episode where Gloria divorces Mike, moves back east with Joey, and takes a veterinary assistant job upstate.
Joanie Loves Chachi was a spin-off of
Happy Days as well. It was a short-lived side series where they move to Chicago and try to make it as musicians. When it was cancelled, they rejoined the HD cast.
Quote from: Big John on April 25, 2018, 09:31:44 PM
Mork and Mindy was a spinoff to Happy Days too.
Not quite. Mork from Ork was a "one-off" episode of
Happy Days. He was not a principal character of the show.
This is a fascinating read:
https://tv.avclub.com/tonight-s-special-guests-the-cast-of-a-whole-new-show-1798219928
It's interesting that Married...with Children had a total of three.
More recently, there's a theory that the episode of Stranger Things S2 where Eleven escapes to Chicago is intended to be a backdoor pilot.
There's also a page at tvtropes.org about backdoor pilots, but I can't get to it from work.
Young Sheldon has done surprisingly well; and was renewed for a 2nd season.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 25, 2018, 08:56:31 PMThen Star Trek TOS tried to spin off a James Bond type of sci fi show with Robert Lansing as Agent Gary Seven and Terri Gar as his female secretary in one second season episode.
FTFY. The episode was titled
Assignment Earth; it was the final episode of the second season.
IIRC, Frasier announced that he was moving back home (to Seattle) in the final season of Cheers. That may or may not have been the last-ever episode, but I know that he had just divorced Lilith and found no reason to stay in Boston.
Quote from: Henry on April 26, 2018, 10:15:51 AM
IIRC, Frasier announced that he was moving back home (to Seattle) in the final season of Cheers. That may or may not have been the last-ever episode, but I know that he had just divorced Lilith and found no reason to stay in Boston.
Considering Frasier on Cheers didn't have a brother and his father wasn't an ex-cop, I doubt they were that careful about tying the two shows together. I don't even know if it was ever established on Cheers that he was originally from Boston.
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
There's also a page at tvtropes.org about backdoor pilots, but I can't get to it from work.
DIAGNOSIS MURDER (A show my wife likes) had some. One I saw was awful. It was basically LETHAL WEAPON with two female cops.
One I'm aware of that the above-linked A.V. Club article missed–
Toward the end of the series, an episode of The Rockford Files titled "Just a Coupla Guys" had Jim Rockford travel to New Jersey on a case where he crossed paths with a pair of half-charming but half-witted would-be gangsters–and supposedly this episode was pitched to NBC as a pilot for a spin-off series (which the network declined). But interestingly, the episode was written by David Chase, who created The Sopranos twenty years later.
And on a slightly related topic: I've wondered the same about insurance company commercials, which have largely been comedic, episodic, and centered around a spokes-character for the last decade. A company will have a have a main mascot featured in most of their commercials (e.g. the GEICO gecko, Progressive's Flo), yet they periodically launch one-off commercials with characters that sometimes reappear in subsequent ads and become sort of a secondary mascot–like GEICO's Maxwell the Pig or Progressive's "box guy" . I wonder to what extent the companies are either trying out new mascots to see what might resonate with audiences or at least are trying to hedge their bets in case the actor playing the main mascot's role decides to quit or hold out for a bigger paycheck.
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: Henry on April 26, 2018, 10:15:51 AM
IIRC, Frasier announced that he was moving back home (to Seattle) in the final season of Cheers. That may or may not have been the last-ever episode, but I know that he had just divorced Lilith and found no reason to stay in Boston.
Considering Frasier on Cheers didn't have a brother and his father wasn't an ex-cop, I doubt they were that careful about tying the two shows together. I don't even know if it was ever established on Cheers that he was originally from Boston.
I've watched virtually every episode of Frasier, but almost none of Cheers (on my list of things to-do). Was it established that Frasier did in fact
not have a brother, and that his dad was in fact
not a cop? Or were these both things that were not addressed on Cheers that Frasier (the show) was free to exploit?
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 26, 2018, 09:25:57 AM
Young Sheldon has done surprisingly well and was renewed for a 2nd season.
I'm glad to hear of YSs 2nd season. I enjoyed the 1st season, I think Annie Potts is a hoot playing mom/memaw/mom in law.
Quote from: briantroutman on May 14, 2018, 10:09:19 PM
One I'm aware of that the above-linked A.V. Club article missed–
Toward the end of the series, an episode of The Rockford Files titled "Just a Coupla Guys" had Jim Rockford travel to New Jersey on a case where he crossed paths with a pair of half-charming but half-witted would-be gangsters–and supposedly this episode was pitched to NBC as a pilot for a spin-off series (which the network declined). But interestingly, the episode was written by David Chase, who created The Sopranos twenty years later.
And on a slightly related topic: I've wondered the same about insurance company commercials, which have largely been comedic, episodic, and centered around a spokes-character for the last decade. A company will have a have a main mascot featured in most of their commercials (e.g. the GEICO gecko, Progressive's Flo), yet they periodically launch one-off commercials with characters that sometimes reappear in subsequent ads and become sort of a secondary mascot–like GEICO's Maxwell the Pig or Progressive's "box guy" . I wonder to what extent the companies are either trying out new mascots to see what might resonate with audiences or at least are trying to hedge their bets in case the actor playing the main mascot's role decides to quit or hold out for a bigger paycheck.
Remember Geico's Caveman mascot? ABC tried to make a sit-com with that, but it flopped after only a couple of episodes.
Quote from: Rothman on April 25, 2018, 11:10:08 PM
Jago and Litefoot from the Doctor Who episode The Talons of Weng-Chiang were supposed to have their own spinoff series, but it never got off the ground.
Big Finish did some audio adventures with Jago and Litefoot.
But you forgot Torchwood, K-9, and The Sarah Jane Adventures (also, K-9 and company).
Katy Manning is also doing Big Finish audio adventures as Iris Wildthyme which is another DW-related series.
All those spinoffs at least got off the ground. I was talking within the context of concepts that never occurred or outright failed.
(And, the K-9 series was K-9 and Company)
...
Dweeks who think the audio stuff or additonal novels are canonical make me snicker.
Quote from: Rothman on May 15, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
All those spinoffs at least got off the ground. I was talking within the context of concepts that never occurred or outright failed.
(And, the K-9 series was K-9 and Company)
...
Dweeks who think the audio stuff or additonal novels are canonical make me snicker.
K-9 and Company bombed.
There was later an animated K-9 show oriented towards kids
Quote from: US71 on May 15, 2018, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 15, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
All those spinoffs at least got off the ground. I was talking within the context of concepts that never occurred or outright failed.
(And, the K-9 series was K-9 and Company)
...
Dweeks who think the audio stuff or additonal novels are canonical make me snicker.
K-9 and Company bombed.
There was later an animated K-9 show oriented towards kids
At least a pilot was made. :D
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
CBS choices for spin-off choices are a bit weird and questionning from what I saw on Wikipedia about the Dukes of Hazzard.
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The Dukes of Hazzard aired two episodes, named "Jude Emery" and "Mason Dixon's Girls", which served as a backdoor pilot complete with the Dukes cast interacting with the new characters. Ultimately, CBS passed on the two series in favor of a series starring Hazzard County deputy Enos Strate.
And no need to know how the Enos spin-off performed....
Back around '83 or so, Three's Company, having ended, spun off John Ritter's chef character into Three's A Crowd, featuring his character as the owner of a West L.A. neighborhood bistro, complete with a regular girlfriend character and a series of weird customers (including a minor mobster played by Terry Kiser, later famous as the dead Bernie in the film Weekend at Bernie's). Generally silly or nonsensical plots; ran out its first season and was unceremoniously cancelled.
Quote from: Jardine on May 15, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
There was some crossover. If memory serves, Petticoat Junction was sort of the "base" and branched into Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies. but no 3-way crossover nor GA/BH crossover.
Also, Greatest American Hero was going to replace the lead with a female, but it didn't happen. Rumor has they may be trying again.
Quote from: US71 on May 15, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Jardine on May 15, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
There was some crossover. If memory serves, Petticoat Junction was sort of the "base" and branched into Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies. but no 3-way crossover nor GA/BH crossover.
Does the fact that PJ and GA were set in Hooterville mean anything?
Quote from: jakeroot on May 14, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: Henry on April 26, 2018, 10:15:51 AM
IIRC, Frasier announced that he was moving back home (to Seattle) in the final season of Cheers. That may or may not have been the last-ever episode, but I know that he had just divorced Lilith and found no reason to stay in Boston.
Considering Frasier on Cheers didn't have a brother and his father wasn't an ex-cop, I doubt they were that careful about tying the two shows together. I don't even know if it was ever established on Cheers that he was originally from Boston.
I've watched virtually every episode of Frasier, but almost none of Cheers (on my list of things to-do). Was it established that Frasier did in fact not have a brother, and that his dad was in fact not a cop? Or were these both things that were not addressed on Cheers that Frasier (the show) was free to exploit?
On Cheers it was once said that his father was no longer living. They kind of tried to explain that on an early episode that they were estranged at the time.
iPad
Quote from: gilpdawg on May 15, 2018, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 14, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: Henry on April 26, 2018, 10:15:51 AM
IIRC, Frasier announced that he was moving back home (to Seattle) in the final season of Cheers. That may or may not have been the last-ever episode, but I know that he had just divorced Lilith and found no reason to stay in Boston.
Considering Frasier on Cheers didn't have a brother and his father wasn't an ex-cop, I doubt they were that careful about tying the two shows together. I don't even know if it was ever established on Cheers that he was originally from Boston.
I've watched virtually every episode of Frasier, but almost none of Cheers (on my list of things to-do). Was it established that Frasier did in fact not have a brother, and that his dad was in fact not a cop? Or were these both things that were not addressed on Cheers that Frasier (the show) was free to exploit?
On Cheers it was once said that his father was no longer living. They kind of tried to explain that on an early episode that they were estranged at the time.
iPad
There are many TV show fan websites out there that aim to pick out all of these inconsistencies in the writing. I know that "The Simpsons" has sites like that.
Just look at all the contortions that Roseanne had to do. Did Dan Connor die at the end of the original run? Yes. But we are basically asked to forget about the last two seasons and just advance 20 years on all the characters. So Dan is still alive for this year's season.
Most fans don't care about these story problems, as long as they are entertained.
Quote from: mrsman on May 16, 2018, 12:07:09 AM
Quote from: gilpdawg on May 15, 2018, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 14, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: Henry on April 26, 2018, 10:15:51 AM
IIRC, Frasier announced that he was moving back home (to Seattle) in the final season of Cheers. That may or may not have been the last-ever episode, but I know that he had just divorced Lilith and found no reason to stay in Boston.
Considering Frasier on Cheers didn't have a brother and his father wasn't an ex-cop, I doubt they were that careful about tying the two shows together. I don't even know if it was ever established on Cheers that he was originally from Boston.
I've watched virtually every episode of Frasier, but almost none of Cheers (on my list of things to-do). Was it established that Frasier did in fact not have a brother, and that his dad was in fact not a cop? Or were these both things that were not addressed on Cheers that Frasier (the show) was free to exploit?
On Cheers it was once said that his father was no longer living. They kind of tried to explain that on an early episode that they were estranged at the time.
iPad
There are many TV show fan websites out there that aim to pick out all of these inconsistencies in the writing. I know that "The Simpsons" has sites like that.
Just look at all the contortions that Roseanne had to do. Did Dan Connor die at the end of the original run? Yes. But we are basically asked to forget about the last two seasons and just advance 20 years on all the characters. So Dan is still alive for this year's season.
Most fans don't care about these story problems, as long as they are entertained.
Try Star Trek now with its many series and now retrofitted using the alternate timeline theory. The best one I like is how World War II was won now by a UFO being the first Enterprise stopping the Xindi from helping the Nazis win the war and alter all of history post world war.
What about the Odd Couple? Each episode was self contained so it never carried over beyond the episode end. Then Dallas too was contained in a new universe when TNT re did the series a few years back. Remember Cliff Barnes made peace with the Ewings and became friends with Bobby in the final seasons. Yet in the last one Barnes lost his bumbling demeanor and was more evil than he ever was before.
Yes people make a big deal over minor details especially on TVLand.
Quote from: mrsman on May 16, 2018, 12:07:09 AM
There are many TV show fan websites out there that aim to pick out all of these inconsistencies in the writing. I know that "The Simpsons" has sites like that.
Just look at all the contortions that Roseanne had to do. Did Dan Connor die at the end of the original run? Yes. But we are basically asked to forget about the last two seasons and just advance 20 years on all the characters. So Dan is still alive for this year's season.
Most fans don't care about these story problems, as long as they are entertained.
You forgot Bobby Ewing ;)
Quote from: cjk374 on May 15, 2018, 06:45:30 AM
Quote from: briantroutman on May 14, 2018, 10:09:19 PM
One I'm aware of that the above-linked A.V. Club article missed–
Toward the end of the series, an episode of The Rockford Files titled "Just a Coupla Guys" had Jim Rockford travel to New Jersey on a case where he crossed paths with a pair of half-charming but half-witted would-be gangsters–and supposedly this episode was pitched to NBC as a pilot for a spin-off series (which the network declined). But interestingly, the episode was written by David Chase, who created The Sopranos twenty years later.
And on a slightly related topic: I've wondered the same about insurance company commercials, which have largely been comedic, episodic, and centered around a spokes-character for the last decade. A company will have a have a main mascot featured in most of their commercials (e.g. the GEICO gecko, Progressive's Flo), yet they periodically launch one-off commercials with characters that sometimes reappear in subsequent ads and become sort of a secondary mascot–like GEICO's Maxwell the Pig or Progressive's "box guy" . I wonder to what extent the companies are either trying out new mascots to see what might resonate with audiences or at least are trying to hedge their bets in case the actor playing the main mascot's role decides to quit or hold out for a bigger paycheck.
Remember Geico's Caveman mascot? ABC tried to make a sit-com with that, but it flopped after only a couple of episodes.
Not once, but twice. I believe it was the first incarnation that featured Nick Kroll as one of the cavemen.
Quote from: briantroutman on May 14, 2018, 10:09:19 PM
Toward the end of the series, an episode of The Rockford Files titled "Just a Coupla Guys" had Jim Rockford travel to New Jersey on a case where he crossed paths with a pair of half-charming but half-witted would-be gangsters–and supposedly this episode was pitched to NBC as a pilot for a spin-off series (which the network declined). But interestingly, the episode was written by David Chase, who created The Sopranos twenty years later.
I have read about that elsewhere on tvtropes. I believe there was also a gangster character on that ep who was in therapy and/or had a toxic relationship with his mother.
Quote from: roadman65 on May 16, 2018, 09:26:32 AM
There are many TV show fan websites out there that aim to pick out all of these inconsistencies in the writing. I know that "The Simpsons" has sites like that.
Just look at all the contortions that Roseanne had to do. Did Dan Connor die at the end of the original run? Yes. But we are basically asked to forget about the last two seasons and just advance 20 years on all the characters. So Dan is still alive for this year's season.
Most fans don't care about these story problems, as long as they are entertained.
Once upon a time, all sitcoms were episodic; the entire season was filmed and the strongest episodes were aired during sweeps week. It is jarring to watch as a modern viewer accustomed to season/series-long arcs.
Quote from: roadman65 on May 16, 2018, 09:26:32 AM
Yes people make a big deal over minor details especially on TVLand.
I think every show is like that.
Quote from: mrsman on May 16, 2018, 12:07:09 AM
There are many TV show fan websites out there that aim to pick out all of these inconsistencies in the writing. I know that "The Simpsons" has sites like that.
Just look at all the contortions that Roseanne had to do. Did Dan Connor die at the end of the original run? Yes. But we are basically asked to forget about the last two seasons and just advance 20 years on all the characters. So Dan is still alive for this year's season.
Most fans don't care about these story problems, as long as they are entertained.
That's similar to what's going on with Cardcaptor Sakura. The original anime/manga was from the 90s, with the series basically picking up where it left off 20 years ago in the present day. It even looked as first as if the new anime was retconning the second movie out of existence, though some details from it have been confirmed canon, leading fans to wonder how that works since part of it is explicitly contradicted by a MAJOR story element of the new arc. There are also some details in both the manga and anime (but more so the anime) that hint that the discontinuities might actually be explained.
Meanwhile Star Trek: Discovery is, between the new look of the Klingons and the "holophone", is currently asking us to believe that two episodes of Enterprise and many scenes scattered through Deep Space Nine (most notably in Trials and Tibble-ations and anything referring to the holophone as brand new) never happened. At least most of the other visual discontinuities don't have any dialog explicitly canonizing something different.
Quote from: sparker on May 15, 2018, 04:09:31 PM
Back around '83 or so, Three's Company, having ended, spun off John Ritter's chef character into Three's A Crowd, featuring his character as the owner of a West L.A. neighborhood bistro, complete with a regular girlfriend character and a series of weird customers (including a minor mobster played by Terry Kiser, later famous as the dead Bernie in the film Weekend at Bernie's). Generally silly or nonsensical plots; ran out its first season and was unceremoniously cancelled.
Three's A Crowd was for the 1984-85 season on ABC.
Just remembered Cheers spawned another short-lived spin-off The Tortellis which focused on Carla's ex Nick, and his new wife (played by Casey Kasem's wife). Both appeared on Cheers on a somewhat regular basis for a few seasons surrounding the spinoff. The show was a flop, lasting only 13 seasons, and the storylines of the series were eventually woven into Cheers canon.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 17, 2018, 04:09:01 AM
Just remembered Cheers spawned another short-lived spin-off The Tortellis which focused on Carla's ex Nick, and his new wife (played by Casey Kasem's wife). Both appeared on Cheers on a somewhat regular basis for a few seasons surrounding the spinoff. The show was a flop, lasting only 13 seasons, and the storylines of the series were eventually woven into Cheers canon.
I wouldn't call 13 seasons to be a flop
I just remembered: there was a proposed Batgirl spin off from Batman which which never went beyond a test episode.
Quote from: sparker on May 15, 2018, 04:09:31 PM
Back around '83 or so, Three's Company, having ended, spun off John Ritter's chef character into Three's A Crowd, featuring his character as the owner of a West L.A. neighborhood bistro, complete with a regular girlfriend character and a series of weird customers (including a minor mobster played by Terry Kiser, later famous as the dead Bernie in the film Weekend at Bernie's). Generally silly or nonsensical plots; ran out its first season and was unceremoniously cancelled.
Probably because the Jack Tripper character on the original UK show,
Man About the House, was given a spinoff called
Robin's Nest. I don't know if that was more or less successful than
Three's A Crowd.
The UK equivalent of the Ropers (can't remember their last name [ETA: It was called
George and Mildred]) also got a spinoff, as the Ropers did. Again, I don't know whether the UK or US version was more successful.
Quote from: US71 on May 17, 2018, 08:04:24 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 17, 2018, 04:09:01 AM
Just remembered Cheers spawned another short-lived spin-off The Tortellis which focused on Carla's ex Nick, and his new wife (played by Casey Kasem's wife). Both appeared on Cheers on a somewhat regular basis for a few seasons surrounding the spinoff. The show was a flop, lasting only 13 seasons, and the storylines of the series were eventually woven into Cheers canon.
I wouldn't call 13 seasons to be a flop
I believe he meant to say
13 episodes. I remember when that spin-off was launched (during
Cheers' 5th Season). I'm surprised that the number of episodes made/aired was
that high.
Quote from: US71 on May 15, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Jardine on May 15, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
There was some crossover. If memory serves, Petticoat Junction was sort of the "base" and branched into Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies. but no 3-way crossover nor GA/BH crossover.
Not quite. Beverly Hillbillies predated Petticoat Junction, which predated Green Acres. Bea Bernadette originally played Jed's cousin Pearl in the early BH episodes, and went on to play Kate Bradley in PJ until she passed away. The Beverly Hillbillies/Petticoat Junction crossover came much later in the BH series when the whole "Silver Dollar City" theme in a few episodes failed to pan out. But you are correct, BH and GA never crossed over.
I also think that Quinn Martin used a final season episode of Barnaby Jones to attempt to launch a show that failed. It was about a father and son bumbling private eye firm that was actually solving the crime more than Barnaby, Betty, or JR Jones were.
Then in a couple of episodes of In The Heat of The Night, there was the actor who played Mike Hammer who had a recurring role where him and a lady solved the crimes of the episodes rather than Gillespe or Tibbs. In fact the Chief and Detective were supporting the guest stars in those episodes. I guess NBC did not take to it, but Fred Silverman kept featuring the characters in hope that NBC would have picked up eventually but did not.
Somewhat related:
https://tv.avclub.com/solo-a-canceled-story-19-tv-spin-offs-for-breakout-ch-1826054983
Quote from: abefroman329 on May 17, 2018, 02:18:05 PM
Somewhat related:
https://tv.avclub.com/solo-a-canceled-story-19-tv-spin-offs-for-breakout-ch-1826054983
They forgot "Kiss my grits" Flo.
Quote from: US71 on May 18, 2018, 11:29:28 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on May 17, 2018, 02:18:05 PM
Somewhat related:
https://tv.avclub.com/solo-a-canceled-story-19-tv-spin-offs-for-breakout-ch-1826054983
They forgot "Kiss my grits" Flo.
They mention it in the second paragraph of the article.
Quote from: Big John on May 15, 2018, 06:13:37 PM
Quote from: US71 on May 15, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Jardine on May 15, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
There was some crossover. If memory serves, Petticoat Junction was sort of the "base" and branched into Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies. but no 3-way crossover nor GA/BH crossover.
Does the fact that PJ and GA were set in Hooterville mean anything?
I am pretty sure that Beverly Hillbillies started before Petticoat Junction. But all the characters on BH appeared on PJ and Green Acres. I think the purpose was to get popular show BH viewers to watch PJ and GA. They were also trying to get love interest between Ellie May and Eb
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Quote from: kendancy66 on May 18, 2018, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 15, 2018, 06:13:37 PM
Quote from: US71 on May 15, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Jardine on May 15, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
There was some crossover. If memory serves, Petticoat Junction was sort of the "base" and branched into Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies. but no 3-way crossover nor GA/BH crossover.
Does the fact that PJ and GA were set in Hooterville mean anything?
I am pretty sure that Beverly Hillbillies started before Petticoat Junction. But all the characters on BH appeared on PJ and Green Acres. I think the purpose was to get popular show BH viewers to watch PJ and GA. They were also trying to get love interest between Ellie May and Eb
BH was September 62. PJ was September 63.
Quote from: kendancy66 on May 18, 2018, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 15, 2018, 06:13:37 PM
Quote from: US71 on May 15, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Jardine on May 15, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
There was some crossover. If memory serves, Petticoat Junction was sort of the "base" and branched into Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies. but no 3-way crossover nor GA/BH crossover.
Does the fact that PJ and GA were set in Hooterville mean anything?
I am pretty sure that Beverly Hillbillies started before Petticoat Junction. But all the characters on BH appeared on PJ and Green Acres. I think the purpose was to get popular show BH viewers to watch PJ and GA. They were also trying to get love interest between Ellie May and Eb
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A similar thing happened with Diffrent Strokes. Another show with McClean Stevenson called Hello Larry was failing in the ratings so they crossed both shows to hope to get Diffrent Strokes viewers to watch Hello Larry.
Speaking of Diffrent Strokes, they also used an episode to launch a spin off that never happened as well. One episode was about a night school teacher teaching adult students to receive their GEDs dealing with social issues of her students who were mostly immigrants with low income. I do not know how or why they chose that type of plot for a planned TV show, but it was never picked up as well.
Quote from: roadman65 on May 18, 2018, 10:09:15 PM
A similar thing happened with Diffrent Strokes. Another show with McClean Stevenson called Hello Larry was failing in the ratings so they crossed both shows to hope to get Diffrent Strokes viewers to watch Hello Larry.
McClean will always be Henry Blake
Quote from: roadman65 on May 18, 2018, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: kendancy66 on May 18, 2018, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 15, 2018, 06:13:37 PM
Quote from: US71 on May 15, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Jardine on May 15, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
There was some crossover. If memory serves, Petticoat Junction was sort of the "base" and branched into Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies. but no 3-way crossover nor GA/BH crossover.
Does the fact that PJ and GA were set in Hooterville mean anything?
I am pretty sure that Beverly Hillbillies started before Petticoat Junction. But all the characters on BH appeared on PJ and Green Acres. I think the purpose was to get popular show BH viewers to watch PJ and GA. They were also trying to get love interest between Ellie May and Eb
SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
A similar thing happened with Diffrent Strokes. Another show with McClean Stevenson called Hello Larry was failing in the ratings so they crossed both shows to hope to get Diffrent Strokes viewers to watch Hello Larry.
Speaking of Diffrent Strokes, they also used an episode to launch a spin off that never happened as well. One episode was about a night school teacher teaching adult students to receive their GEDs dealing with social issues of her students who were mostly immigrants with low income. I do not know how or why they chose that type of plot for a planned TV show, but it was never picked up as well.
And I think The Facts of Life (a Diff'rent Strokes spin-off) had two or three backdoor pilots during its run.
Quote from: US71 on May 19, 2018, 08:57:57 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 18, 2018, 10:09:15 PM
A similar thing happened with Diffrent Strokes. Another show with McClean Stevenson called Hello Larry was failing in the ratings so they crossed both shows to hope to get Diffrent Strokes viewers to watch Hello Larry.
McClean will always be Henry Blake
Amen! :cheers:
The Make Room for Daddy (original name of The Danny Thomas Show) episode "Danny Meets Andy Griffith" essentially was the pilot episode of The Andy Griffith Show. Andy played the role of Sheriff Andy Taylor, who arrested Danny for running a stop sign while driving through Mayberry. Ron Howard appeared as Opie Taylor. Francis Bavier also appeared, but not as Aunt Bee.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on May 20, 2018, 12:19:40 PM
The Make Room for Daddy (original name of The Danny Thomas Show) episode "Danny Meets Andy Griffith" essentially was the pilot episode of The Andy Griffith Show. Andy played the role of Sheriff Andy Taylor, who arrested Danny for running a stop sign while driving through Mayberry. Ron Howard appeared as Opie Taylor. Francis Bavier also appeared, but not as Aunt Bee.
and Mayberry RFD was a spin-off of Andy Griffith
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
There's also a page at tvtropes.org about backdoor pilots, but I can't get to it from work.
You mean this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PoorlyDisguisedPilot
Quote from: jdb1234 on May 20, 2018, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
There's also a page at tvtropes.org about backdoor pilots, but I can't get to it from work.
You mean this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PoorlyDisguisedPilot
I've been reading a book on that.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BISMX20/ref=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o00_?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Quote from: jdb1234 on May 20, 2018, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
There's also a page at tvtropes.org about backdoor pilots, but I can't get to it from work.
You mean this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PoorlyDisguisedPilot
Yes, that's what I was thinking of.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 20, 2018, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: jdb1234 on May 20, 2018, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 26, 2018, 09:08:12 AM
There's also a page at tvtropes.org about backdoor pilots, but I can't get to it from work.
You mean this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PoorlyDisguisedPilot
I've been reading a book on that.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BISMX20/ref=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o00_?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And now I have a new book for my Kindle! Thanks!
Quote from: US71 on May 15, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Jardine on May 15, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
Not sure if strictly spin off relted or 'occurred in same universe' kinda thing, but Petticoat Junction, Beverley Hillbilly's and Green Acres share DNA.
Sorry if already noted above, I looked but might have missed a post somewhere.
There was some crossover. If memory serves, Petticoat Junction was sort of the "base" and branched into Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies. but no 3-way crossover nor GA/BH crossover.
Bea was on BH before appearing on PJ with a different character. Far more crossover between PJ & GA than BH with either but there was some.
Quote from: US71 on May 20, 2018, 12:37:49 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on May 20, 2018, 12:19:40 PM
The Make Room for Daddy (original name of The Danny Thomas Show) episode "Danny Meets Andy Griffith" essentially was the pilot episode of The Andy Griffith Show. Andy played the role of Sheriff Andy Taylor, who arrested Danny for running a stop sign while driving through Mayberry. Ron Howard appeared as Opie Taylor. Francis Bavier also appeared, but not as Aunt Bee.
and Mayberry RFD was a spin-off of Andy Griffith
Andy Griffith lasted eight seasons while Mayberry RFD lasted three. Hardly failed pilots from Make Room For Daddy.
Remember Mama's Family? It spun off a skit on Carol Burnett.
Didn't Bewitched have plans for a Tabitha spin-off?
^^ Tabitha had a short 12-episode run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBKDrYnS1I
Quote from: US71 on May 21, 2018, 11:30:43 PM
Remember Mama's Family?
Unfortunately, yes, I remember Mama's Family. I think Bubba was supposed to get a spinoff.
Quote from: Big John on May 21, 2018, 11:37:40 PM
^^ Tabitha had a short 12-episode run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBKDrYnS1I
I
totally missed that
Robert Urich, eh?
Wasn't Tabitha playing a bit fast and loose with her age–portraying her as about 20-25 in 1977 she should have been about 10?
Quote from: PHLBOS on April 26, 2018, 09:34:26 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 25, 2018, 08:56:31 PMThen Star Trek TOS tried to spin off a James Bond type of sci fi show with Robert Lansing as Agent Gary Seven and Terri Gar as his female secretary in one second season episode.
FTFY. The episode was titled Assignment Earth; it was the final episode of the second season.
And he wasn't all that much like James Bond: Bond worked for one of the contemporary nations of earth with only ordinary humans' powers, while Seven worked for aliens with vast technical powers beyond even Starfleet. Bond was a womanizing, hard-drinking, gambling misogynist, but we never saw those characteristics in Gary Seven.
Some interesting coincidences with that episode. Spock was listening to Earth radio transmissions while the Enterprise orbited. He reported several key points that might have been involved in timeline damage in 1968: a political assassination, a mishap to a rocket launch, a coup in an Asian country. Six days after the episode aired, Martin Luther King as assassinated and the unmanned Apollo 6 mission suffered damage to the 2nd and 3rd stages due to excessive vibration, preventing the planned test of putting a service module in translunar orbit. A couple of months later there was a coup in Iraq that brought Saddam Hussein to power.
Quote from: briantroutman on May 22, 2018, 05:40:41 PM
Wasn't Tabitha playing a bit fast and loose with her age–portraying her as about 20-25 in 1977 she should have been about 10?
Magic ;)
Gomer Pyle outlasted Andy Griffith!
Quote from: US71 on May 22, 2018, 09:38:10 AM
Quote from: Big John on May 21, 2018, 11:37:40 PM
^^ Tabitha had a short 12-episode run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBKDrYnS1I
I totally missed that
Robert Urich, eh?
12 episodes counts as a launched TV show. Its about episodes, like Assignment Earth on Star Trek Season 2, that were produced to be back door pilots that never got even one episode aired.
Another was the final episode of Laverne and Shirley that was intended to give Carmine Raguso his own TV show afet Laverne and Shirley hence why he moved to New York and got a gig in a Broadway play.
Welcome Back Kotter's final episode was to give Ron Pallilo his own show hence why the character Horshack got married in the peninultment episode of the sitcom series. If the network picked it up it would have been a continuation of the show just as Three's A Crowd was to Threes Company. However in Threes Company the last episode which was aired as a three part episode had two of its three parts aired after the show's final season and was the first episode of the Threes A Crowd one and only season. Nonetheless it was produced.
The OP is about shows that were pilots that never got produced even for one episode.
I was not a big Happy Days or Laverne & Shriely fan, but didn't they try to spin-off Lenny & Squiggy or is my mind playing tricks on me?
Has anyone mentioned W*A*L*T*E*R which was an AfterMASH spin-off? It never got beyond the pilot
Quote from: roadman65 on May 22, 2018, 10:58:12 PM
The OP is about shows that were pilots that never got produced even for one episode.
"Never got produced even for one episode, as their own series," you mean.
Quote from: US71 on May 23, 2018, 09:39:06 AM
I was not a big Happy Days or Laverne & Shriely fan, but didn't they try to spin-off Lenny & Squiggy or is my mind playing tricks on me?
You may be thinking of the records that were released during the first season of Laverne and Shirley. One was
Laverne and Shirley Sing, and the other was
Lenny and the Squigtones. Both records had the L&S characters doing covers of classic 1950s songs.
Quote from: abefroman329 on May 23, 2018, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 22, 2018, 10:58:12 PM
The OP is about shows that were pilots that never got produced even for one episode.
"Never got produced even for one episode, as their own series," you mean.
"Chief Wiggum P.I."
Quote from: jon daly on May 23, 2018, 04:25:35 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on May 23, 2018, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 22, 2018, 10:58:12 PM
The OP is about shows that were pilots that never got produced even for one episode.
"Never got produced even for one episode, as their own series," you mean.
"Chief Wiggum P.I."
Or "Love-Matic Grandpa." He'll fill our hearts with love.
Quote from: roadman on May 23, 2018, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 23, 2018, 09:39:06 AM
I was not a big Happy Days or Laverne & Shriely fan, but didn't they try to spin-off Lenny & Squiggy or is my mind playing tricks on me?
You may be thinking of the records that were released during the first season of Laverne and Shirley. One was Laverne and Shirley Sing, and the other was Lenny and the Squigtones. Both records had the L&S characters doing covers of classic 1950s songs.
In all fairness they should have spun them off. Makes me wonder if that one episode where Laverne and Shirley were both out of town and let Lenny and Squiggy, as well as Carmine use their apartment to stay in while on furlow. It featured Squiggy sleepwalking cause he could not admit to himself a girl he had a crush on, did not anywhere near feel the same way toward him was a back door pilot.
Now, it might of been that both actresses Penny Marshall and Cindy Williams could not commit to the taping for other reasons or obligations with the episode originally intended to be for them, but then a last minute change to the script was made to accommodate two male roles for it.
I just remembered three four more proposed shows that never made it off the ground:
Dr Strange. A TV movie in 1978 which did poorly.
Trial of the Incredible Hulk TV movie was intended to launch Daredevil
The Incredible Hulk Returns TV movie was intended to launch Thor.
And a Generation X TV movie which didn't fare well (I hated it)
Burn Notice on USA Network ended with Michael and Fiona raising Michael's late brother's child after being declared "dead." The implication was that Sam and Jesse were poised to continue helping people in trouble using the skills they had used as part of the whole group. The groundwork was there to spin off a continuation of the show/new show with those characters.
Person of Interest did sort of the same thing in the last episode -- it implied that others were also being contacted by the machine to help people, so a branch of that show could have continued with a whole new cast (not necessarily introduced in the show).
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on April 25, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Was ABC's Three's A Crowd ever set up at the end of Three's Company? That show only went one season (1985-86). I don't think I ever saw East Hartford's own Mary Cardorette in any other show after that.
For all intents and purposes, Three's A Crowd was just the final season of an overhauled Three's Company. The final TC episode, in which Jack and his then-roomates and Mr. Furley all went their separate ways and Jack got married. The final scene said "Three's Company is now Three's A Crowd" or something like that.
Just like how All in the Family killed off Edith and continued on as "Archie Bunker's Place" for I believe two more seasons.
The Facts of Life had several attempts at back-door pilots which never sold. I remember there was at least one failed back-door attempt on The Rockford Files, and I want to say there was a back-door pilot on Adam-12 I remember seeing that never took off.
Quote from: thenetwork on May 28, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on April 25, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Was ABC's Three's A Crowd ever set up at the end of Three's Company? That show only went one season (1985-86). I don't think I ever saw East Hartford's own Mary Cardorette in any other show after that.
For all intents and purposes, Three's A Crowd was just the final season of an overhauled Three's Company. The final TC episode, in which Jack and his then-roomates and Mr. Furley all went their separate ways and Jack got married. The final scene said "Three's Company is now Three's A Crowd" or something like that.
He did not get married. There was controversy about that show as it showed Jack and his girlfriend Vicky "sleeping" together out of wedlock.
Quote from: thenetwork on May 28, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on April 25, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Was ABC's Three's A Crowd ever set up at the end of Three's Company? That show only went one season (1985-86). I don't think I ever saw East Hartford's own Mary Cardorette in any other show after that.
For all intents and purposes, Three's A Crowd was just the final season of an overhauled Three's Company. The final TC episode, in which Jack and his then-roomates and Mr. Furley all went their separate ways and Jack got married. The final scene said "Three's Company is now Three's A Crowd" or something like that.
Just like how All in the Family killed off Edith and continued on as "Archie Bunker's Place" for I believe two more seasons.
The Facts of Life had several attempts at back-door pilots which never sold. I remember there was at least one failed back-door attempt on The Rockford Files, and I want to say there was a back-door pilot on Adam-12 I remember seeing that never took off.
The finale of Facts of Life was a back door pilot hence Blair becoming the head mistress of the school she attended earlier in the show. The episode focused on her job as that and not much on the other characters.
In Archie Bunkers Place, Edith was killed off in the beginning of Season 2. The first season did have Jean Stapleton appear in four episodes including the Thanksgiving reunion of the original All In The Family Cast.
In Threes A Crowd yes Jack did not get married as that show aired after unmarried cohabitation began becoming popular in normal life. When Threes Company first aired 8 years prior, it was controversial for the time, but a lot has changed in the course of the eight year run.
Quote from: Big John on May 28, 2018, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 28, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on April 25, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Was ABC's Three's A Crowd ever set up at the end of Three's Company? That show only went one season (1985-86). I don't think I ever saw East Hartford's own Mary Cardorette in any other show after that.
For all intents and purposes, Three's A Crowd was just the final season of an overhauled Three's Company. The final TC episode, in which Jack and his then-roomates and Mr. Furley all went their separate ways and Jack got married. The final scene said "Three's Company is now Three's A Crowd" or something like that.
He did not get married. There was controversy about that show as it showed Jack and his girlfriend Vicky "sleeping" together out of wedlock.
No Janet got married, though the courtship was never shown. In the next to last episode of the show, Phillip (Janet's future husband) was shown but due to a misunderstanding caused Janet to never date him as Janet was interested in him, but Jack though he was interested in Janet for other reasons. One week later, we saw them get engaged so somehow between episodes they reconciled, dated, and became serious.
However, there was controversy in the end as Mary Cadorette was casted to play Vicki before the rest of the cast of Three's Company got the ax. The producers were not man enough to inform the cast (other than Ritter) that the show was being retooled and many were losing their jobs. I believe Joyce DeWitt (Janet) found out by mistake that Mary Cadorette was replacing her and their was strong restentment against the producers including John Ritter from her.
Also the same producers did the same to Jenilee Harrison (Cindy Snow) as first she was a temporary replacement for Suzanne Sommers until the producers officially fired Sommers and then decided Harrison had no sex appeal for the audience as a permanent replacement and instead hired Teri Austin instead who producers thought was sexy enough to hold the show's ratings as a permanent lead. At first they gave Jenilee a spot as a credited supporting actress, then they let her play the same character for a few episodes and then slowly had writers give her less appearances until she developed Chuck Cunningham syndrome and was not allowed to return for Seasons 7 and 8. In an interview with Harrison she stated she would have stayed till the end if they did not slowly fire her in Season 6.
Quote from: thenetwork on May 28, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
For all intents and purposes, Three's A Crowd was just the final season of an overhauled Three's Company.
Likewise, I've read claims that
The Ted Knight Show was originally expected to have a longer run as "its own series" , but because of the death of Ted Knight and subsequent cancellation of the show, it's looked at as being simply a re-tooled last season of
Too Close for Comfort (and in fact
The Ted Knight Show episodes have been re-packaged with
Too Close... opening titles for purposes of rerun syndication).
Quote from: Big John on May 28, 2018, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 28, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on April 25, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Was ABC's Three's A Crowd ever set up at the end of Three's Company? That show only went one season (1985-86). I don't think I ever saw East Hartford's own Mary Cardorette in any other show after that.
For all intents and purposes, Three's A Crowd was just the final season of an overhauled Three's Company. The final TC episode, in which Jack and his then-roomates and Mr. Furley all went their separate ways and Jack got married. The final scene said "Three's Company is now Three's A Crowd" or something like that.
He did not get married. There was controversy about that show as it showed Jack and his girlfriend Vicky "sleeping" together out of wedlock.
It was the same with Robin's Nest, and it was equally controversial.
Quote from: roadman65 on May 28, 2018, 11:15:24 PMAlso the same producers did the same to Jenilee Harrison (Cindy Snow) as first she was a temporary replacement for Suzanne Sommers until the producers officially fired Sommers and then decided Harrison had no sex appeal for the audience as a permanent replacement and instead hired Teri Austin instead who producers thought was sexy enough to hold the show's ratings as a permanent lead.
Actually they hired Priscilla Barnes. Teri Austin was the name of the character she played.